Re: [ql-users] QL on Stick
On Mon, 23 May 2005 at 10:05:42, Darren Branagh wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) Yes, you're missing something!! :-) We where talking of getting a mounded case made in the shape of a QL. Could be done, but for 100 or so units, would cost the earth. The sticky label idea wouldn't work - they'd wear off in about 5 mins of throwing them about, and the stick is not square, its tapered and slightly rounded at the ends - a label would crease and look awful. We can print directly onto the stick, the same way promotional pens and keyrings are done, and it looks great. But it's a minimum order of 100. I reckon that a QL printed on the stick is a lot better than nothing at all. How about a white stick, with a black QL printed on as large as is feasible. The lettering of the keys (and the "Sinclair" and "QL") would simply be the white case plastic showing through. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
Yes, you're missing something!! :-) We where talking of getting a mounded case made in the shape of a QL. Could be done, but for 100 or so units, would cost the earth. The sticky label idea wouldn't work - they'd wear off in about 5 mins of throwing them about, and the stick is not square, its tapered and slightly rounded at the ends - a label would crease and look awful. We can print directly onto the stick, the same way promotional pens and keyrings are done, and it looks great. But it's a minimum order of 100. Cheers, Darren. Am I missing something here, or could Darren just get some transparent sticky labels (e.g. from Avery) and laser print a QL picture or something onto them and wrap it around the body of the QL Stick? Dilwyn Jones >>That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the >>microdrives being >>the USB plug cover cap. >> >>I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, >>expect to pay >>about 2,000 quid each at least!! > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 20/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
Yep. Tooling costs the earth. And, with a lot of companies we work for, the tooling plans are either sold to them, or destroyed, so that further ones cant be made, should the company have wished a "limited edition" of whatever device they commissioned. I'm asked one of the guys in the know to look at the back catalogue to see if we have a regtangular case there, but I doubt it. Even if we did, you'd probably find the rights to it don't belong to us anymore, but to the company that asked for it. Ho Hum Darren. -Original Message- From: Tony Firshman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2005 14:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL on Stick On Fri, 20 May 2005 at 11:49:05, Darren Branagh wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > >That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the microdrives being >the USB plug cover cap. > >I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, expect to pay >about 2,000 quid each at least!! Exactly. The tooling cost of the real QL case was, I think, £30,000 in the 80s. > >(we did one in the shape and colour of a human finger last month - the >fingernail removed to show the USB connector - very classy!) I think the >print run for those was about 25,000 units, was for a US Telecoms company. Mind you if there is tooling for a rectangular case, then that might be cost effective. Isn't the tooling the really expensive bit? Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL on Stick
Am I missing something here, or could Darren just get some transparent sticky labels (e.g. from Avery) and laser print a QL picture or something onto them and wrap it around the body of the QL Stick? Dilwyn Jones That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the microdrives being the USB plug cover cap. I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, expect to pay about 2,000 quid each at least!! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 20/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
At 11:49 20/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the microdrives being the USB plug cover cap. I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, expect to pay about 2,000 quid each at least!! It really is not sensible to think along such commercial lines. I can envisage a much more economical solution. I would need to have an example of the stick and as I no longer posses a BlackBox , a pic of the top and dimensions for proportion. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 20/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL on Stick
On Fri, 20 May 2005 at 11:49:05, Darren Branagh wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > >That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the microdrives being >the USB plug cover cap. > >I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, expect to pay >about 2,000 quid each at least!! Exactly. The tooling cost of the real QL case was, I think, £30,000 in the 80s. > >(we did one in the shape and colour of a human finger last month - the >fingernail removed to show the USB connector - very classy!) I think the >print run for those was about 25,000 units, was for a US Telecoms company. Mind you if there is tooling for a rectangular case, then that might be cost effective. Isn't the tooling the really expensive bit? Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL on Stick
On Fri, 20 May 2005 at 11:28:26, David Tubbs wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >At 11:11 20/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: > >>I see it as covering the whole visible part when in the computer. >>Wouldn't it look good if it looked like a QL stuck in the slot (8-)# > >While thoughts are on packaging rather than content (is that not the >time consuming bit) surely it should be a 3D miniature of the QL, >removing the mdv end to reveal the USB con'. That is the sort of thing, but are users willing to pay more for the packaging that the product? A special moulding would be expensive to tool. I investigated a case for RomDisq, but it was not affordable in small quantities. Tooling cost was too high. ... and then we were talking hundreds. I think the best we can hope for is a printed QL image. If it is large enough, then it might look like a QL with rounded edges. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
At 12:28 20/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: None left, the entire shipment sent to the US not long after I joined here. Great pity, when such a special is made do you start with the bare electronics ? If so what would the poss' be of acquiring ? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 19/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
I liked it too. None left, the entire shipment sent to the US not long after I joined here. The MD has one - and I think he is guarding it with his life!! They don't happen that often, as they are expensive to do. They did one in the shape of a cruise ship a year or two ago. Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: David Tubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2005 12:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick At 11:49 20/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: >(we did one in the shape and colour of a human finger last month - the >fingernail removed to show the USB connector - very classy!) I Now that I like Very digital, the Fickle Finger of Fate ! Insert finger here ??? Is here one left kicking around the floor somewhere ? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 19/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
At 11:49 20/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: (we did one in the shape and colour of a human finger last month - the fingernail removed to show the USB connector - very classy!) I Now that I like Very digital, the Fickle Finger of Fate ! Insert finger here ??? Is here one left kicking around the floor somewhere ? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 19/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the microdrives being the USB plug cover cap. I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, expect to pay about 2,000 quid each at least!! (we did one in the shape and colour of a human finger last month - the fingernail removed to show the USB connector - very classy!) I think the print run for those was about 25,000 units, was for a US Telecoms company. Darren. -Original Message- From: David Tubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2005 11:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] QL on Stick At 11:11 20/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: >I see it as covering the whole visible part when in the computer. >Wouldn't it look good if it looked like a QL stuck in the slot (8-)# While thoughts are on packaging rather than content (is that not the time consuming bit) surely it should be a 3D miniature of the QL, removing the mdv end to reveal the USB con'. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 19/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
