qmail Digest 13 Jan 2001 11:00:00 -0000 Issue 1243

2001-01-13 Thread qmail-digest-help


qmail Digest 13 Jan 2001 11:00:00 - Issue 1243

Topics (messages 55079 through 55113):

Re: qmail-smtpd-auth
55079 by: Henning Brauer
55080 by: Henning Brauer
55093 by: Felix von Leitner

problem in delivering mails locally...
55081 by: vasudeva
55082 by: Alex Pennace
55084 by: Greg Owen
55103 by: Aaron L. Meehan

Re: Disk Quota
55083 by: Henning Brauer
55111 by: Russell Nelson

Re: #4.3.0 error
55085 by: Ørjan Vøllestad

qmail-pop3d weired problem with NFS
55086 by: reach_prashant.mail.zeenext.com
55089 by: Tim Hunter

Re: AIX installation
55087 by: Charles Cazabon

Can a que in Qmail get stuck?
55088 by: Collin B. McClendon
55090 by: Mark Delany

Re: Can a queue in Qmail get stuck?
55091 by: Collin B. McClendon

My Logs for qmail
55092 by: Collin B. McClendon

Re: Dot in email adress
55094 by: Dave Sill
55095 by: Mark Delany
55096 by: Paul Jarc
55097 by: Mark Delany
55098 by: Paul Jarc

Help decoding a bounce msg
55099 by: Martin Langhoff
55100 by: Aaron L. Meehan

Hotmail Woes.
55101 by: Corey Jarvis
55102 by: Jamin A. Brown
55104 by: Stefan Laudat
55106 by: Boz Crowther
55109 by: Jeff Lacy
55110 by: George Patterson

qmail and logcheck
55105 by: Boz Crowther

Re: QMTP running on sources.redhat.com
55107 by: Sean Reifschneider

Re: Big Load with AmaVis + Sophos
55108 by: Rainer Link

In a perfect world
55112 by: Russell Nelson

Problem with web to local mail delivery
55113 by: Peter Drahos

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On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 11:44:09AM +1300, Bjorn Nilsen wrote:
 smtp-poplock is just another implementation of "pop before smtp" which I
 already have with vpopmail. I will explain in more detail why this solution
 doesn't work for me. Many mail clients the default or only action is to send
 mail before checking mail. So what happens is the mail client happily sends
 all mail in the outbox then checks there mail via pop. This works fine until
 all that mail just sent gets bounced right back from the smtp server because
 the mail client had not authenticated with pop first allowing them relay
 access. Then I end up with a very annoyed and confused user (is there any
 other kind?). So the best solution I can see for this is smtp auth.

Not all clients out are supporting smtp-auth (unfortunately). If your
clients are employees, this is fixable, if they are customers, i don't see
an alternative to smtp after pop - smtp auth additionally is a good idea.

 Also another question with qmail-smtp-auth if a host is already set up as a
 relay client do they need to still provide a login password to get relay
 access?

no.


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On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 06:09:48PM -0500, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Kris Kelley wrote:
 
  You're not going to find any ESMTP AUTH solutions for qmail that don't
  involve patching qmail's source.
 
 This is completely false.  smtp-poplock doesn't require patching the
 qmail source.   You can find a link to it on www.qmail.org.

This is a smtp after pop solution, no SMTP AUTH. SMTP AUTH is an SMTP
protocol extension allowing clients to authentificate via username+password
during the smtp session, not before through pop as with smtp poplock. As
everybody could easily see this requires always patching qmail.


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Thus spake Henning Brauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  This is completely false.  smtp-poplock doesn't require patching the
  qmail source.   You can find a link to it on www.qmail.org.
 This is a smtp after pop solution, no SMTP AUTH. SMTP AUTH is an SMTP
 protocol extension allowing clients to authentificate via username+password
 during the smtp session, not before through pop as with smtp poplock. As
 everybody could easily see this requires always patching qmail.

Why?
You could install a smtpd wrapper that answers the smtp auth stuff and
updates the pop tcpserver database on the fly.

Felix




Hi all,
I have configured qmail server and trying to
connect to my main branch to get mails , but this is
happening without any problem. Only thing after
getting mails to the qmail server I am getting error
message while delivering to each user:

deferral: 

newbees guide to the qmail-list [was: problem in delivering mails locally...]

2001-01-13 Thread Alexander Jernejcic

hi,

Aaron L. Meehan wrote:

 What I'm trying to say is that you should give us real information.

 It's starting to become neccessary to be creative since we have to
 keep telling people this, over, and over, and over ...

just a suggestion: what about a few lines at www.qmail.org telling people
what information to post in order to get help (logs, configs, permissions,
startup scripts, etc. blah blah) and not just: i have a problem - mails are
not delivered - what's wrong?

;) alexander




Re: newbees guide to the qmail-list [was: problem in delivering mails locally...]

2001-01-13 Thread Alex Pennace

On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 01:08:07PM +0100, Alexander Jernejcic wrote:
 hi,
 
 Aaron L. Meehan wrote:
 
  What I'm trying to say is that you should give us real information.
 
  It's starting to become neccessary to be creative since we have to
  keep telling people this, over, and over, and over ...
 
 just a suggestion: what about a few lines at www.qmail.org telling people
 what information to post in order to get help (logs, configs, permissions,
 startup scripts, etc. blah blah) and not just: i have a problem - mails are
 not delivered - what's wrong?

I doubt it will work. http://www.qmail.org/top.html already includes a
blurb about the list and the FAQ, which does not stop people from
asking such frequently asked questions. If they can't master the FAQ,
its unlikely they will master the relevant-information part.



Re: Hotmail

2001-01-13 Thread Corey Jarvis

It would be nice if anyone could answer my questions instead of giving a
nice paragraph on win2k




Re: same UID with a lot of email

2001-01-13 Thread Peter van Dijk

On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 10:08:52PM -0500, Tim Hunter wrote:
 I dont understand why it shouldn't have the same UID...
 what am I missing?

In IMAP, every message has an Unique ID. This is totally unrelated to
the User ID.

I have no answer to the question, however. I don't use IMAP.

Greetz, Peter.



Re: Hotmail Woes.

2001-01-13 Thread Henning Brauer

On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 04:32:30PM -0800, Boz Crowther wrote:
 Isn't Hotmail owned by M$ (has been for a while, actually)?  So, it would
 make sense that they run M$ OSes.

Yes, M$ owns Hotmail. They have a bunch of Windooze Servers, but AFAIK the
real work is done by FreeBSD machines. rumors say they tried to convert to
Windooze NT when they buyed Hotmail, Hotmail was down for a few days and
they went back to FreeBSD ;-))
I don't know if this is really true, but it would make sense.

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Re: Hotmail Woes.

2001-01-13 Thread PD Miller

At 17:36 -0500 12/1/01, Corey Jarvis wrote:
Anyone in the world can send to me however when I send to hotmail.com it
won't accept any smtp connection.

Our mailing list has a hundred or so subscribers with Hotmail 
addresses and their servers are quite patchy. Is this problem 
consistent (have you ever got mail through to them)? If so, look in 
the log for more information on the cause of the deferral. Even if 
you do get an smtp connection, your trouble may not be over. You may 
find that they don't 250 at the end (a sporatic problem there) or 
that the user you are sending to is over quota.

Finally, if your server sends to yahoo, your either lucky or good. I 
find yahoo.com and yahoo.ca to be down 20% of the time.

Regards

Paul Miller
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upgrade question

2001-01-13 Thread M. Yu



Hello all,

I am using Bruce Guetner's Qmail SRPMs with Courier-IMAP.  I am planning to
transfer mail services to another machine.  Can I just copy the users'
Maildir (with its contents) to the new machine?  What I plan to do is this:

1. configure new machine as mail2
2. add user accounts to mail2
3. stop mail1 from receiving mails from users by unsetting RELAYCLIENT
4. wait till mail1 sends all mails currently in queue
5. stop qmail-smtpd on mail1
6. backup users' Maildir
7. transfer backup to mail2
8. disconnect mail1
9. rename mail2 to mail1
10. restart mail services on new mail1

Is this the correct way to transfer mails?

TIA,

M. Yu




RE: Hotmail

2001-01-13 Thread Greg Owen

 It would be nice if anyone could answer my questions instead 
 of giving a nice paragraph on win2k

Looking back at your original question:

 Anyone in the world can send to me however when I send to
 hotmail.com it won't accept any smtp connection.

There is a total lack of useful information for us to use to help
you with.  The following information would help us help you:

What do the logs say?  Show a complete delivery attempt of one
message to hotmail, from the "begin" line to the "end" line.  Also show us a
successful delivery somewhere.  Feel free to X out the usernames, but leave
the domain information in place.

What is your mail server's IP address?  As someone has already
suggested, you may be blacklisted inadverdantly or because of a previous
owner of that IP.  (This would probably also show up in the aforementioned
log).

What are the contents of your /var/qmail/control/smtproutes file?

-- 
gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  SoftLock.com is now DigitalGoods!
 




Re: In a perfect world

2001-01-13 Thread Felix von Leitner

Thus spake Russell Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 In a perfect world, QMTP would require that a qmtpd accept
 VERP-formatted envelope senders.  And qmail would collate remote
 deliveries by hostname, and dump all copies of a piece of email to all
 the recipients at once.  I have customers for whom that would be an
 incredibly good win.

 Of course, in a perfect world, email would never bounce, so what am I
 talking about??

Doesn't qmail-qmtpd accept VERPs?

Felix



Re: In a perfect world

2001-01-13 Thread Johan Almqvist

On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 07:44:31PM +0100, Felix von Leitner wrote:
 Thus spake Russell Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  In a perfect world, QMTP would require that a qmtpd accept
  VERP-formatted envelope senders.  And qmail would collate remote
  deliveries by hostname, and dump all copies of a piece of email to all
  the recipients at once.  I have customers for whom that would be an
  incredibly good win.
  Of course, in a perfect world, email would never bounce, so what am I
  talking about??
 Doesn't qmail-qmtpd accept VERPs?

Yes it does!

(But that was rather complicated to test :-)

Anyway, VERP expansion is done by qmail-send, but only qmail-remote (two
exec's later) knows whether the remote host is a QMTP host... Humm.

-Johan
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Re: Hotmail

2001-01-13 Thread Boz Crowther

And, despite the lack of any useful information, the first two responses to
your post WERE attempts to be helpful (Jamin and Stephen).  A little
gratitude., or at least common courtesy as someone that's asking others for
a favor,  might be called for.

- Original Message -
From: "Greg Owen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 7:29 AM
Subject: RE: Hotmail


  It would be nice if anyone could answer my questions instead
  of giving a nice paragraph on win2k

 Looking back at your original question:

  Anyone in the world can send to me however when I send to
  hotmail.com it won't accept any smtp connection.

 There is a total lack of useful information for us to use to help
 you with.  The following information would help us help you:

 What do the logs say?  Show a complete delivery attempt of one
 message to hotmail, from the "begin" line to the "end" line.  Also show us
a
 successful delivery somewhere.  Feel free to X out the usernames, but
leave
 the domain information in place.

 What is your mail server's IP address?  As someone has already
 suggested, you may be blacklisted inadverdantly or because of a previous
 owner of that IP.  (This would probably also show up in the aforementioned
 log).

 What are the contents of your /var/qmail/control/smtproutes file?

 --
 gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   SoftLock.com is now DigitalGoods!







Re: Hotmail

2001-01-13 Thread Henning Brauer

On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 11:16:15AM -0800, Boz Crowther wrote:
 And, despite the lack of any useful information, the first two responses to
 your post WERE attempts to be helpful (Jamin and Stephen).  A little
 gratitude., or at least common courtesy as someone that's asking others for
 a favor,  might be called for.

If you don't like the help you are getting here piss off and hire someone.
You are rude. And yes, at the moment I'm rude too. Just can't read this
crying any more. 

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Re: upgrade question

2001-01-13 Thread Jeff Lacy

I have never done this before.  I think what I have suggested would decrease
the 'downtime' of you mail server.  I am assuming you followed lwq.  If you
didn't the qmail script that I am referring to is at
http://www.lifewithqmail.com/lwq.html#qmail-script.  Try this:

1. configure new machine as mail2
2. add user accounts to mail2
3. pause qmail (qmail pause) on mail1
4. put mail2 in the smtproutes on mail1 (echo :mail2 
/var/qmail/control/smtproutes)
5. backup users' Maildir
6. transfer backup to mail2
7. unpause qmail (qmail cont) on mail1
8. wait for all the mail on mail1 to go to mail2
9. stop qmail on mail1 (qmail stop)
10. rename mail2 to mail1
11. restart mail services on new mail1


- Original Message -
From: "M. Yu" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 8:48 AM
Subject: upgrade question




 Hello all,

 I am using Bruce Guetner's Qmail SRPMs with Courier-IMAP.  I am planning
to
 transfer mail services to another machine.  Can I just copy the users'
 Maildir (with its contents) to the new machine?  What I plan to do is
this:

 1. configure new machine as mail2
 2. add user accounts to mail2
 3. stop mail1 from receiving mails from users by unsetting RELAYCLIENT
 4. wait till mail1 sends all mails currently in queue
 5. stop qmail-smtpd on mail1
 6. backup users' Maildir
 7. transfer backup to mail2
 8. disconnect mail1
 9. rename mail2 to mail1
 10. restart mail services on new mail1

 Is this the correct way to transfer mails?

 TIA,

 M. Yu






Bogus popularity claims for Sendmail

2001-01-13 Thread D. J. Bernstein

I've set up a web page to combat Sendmail Inc.'s false advertising on
this topic: http://cr.yp.to/surveys/sendmail.html

Sendmail dropped below 50% of the Internet's SMTP servers---including
idle workstations---last year; qmail has climbed past 10%. I suspect
that qmail now handles more Internet mail deliveries than Sendmail does,
although I don't know a good way to measure this.

---Dan



Re: In a perfect world

2001-01-13 Thread Paul Jarc

Felix von Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Thus spake Russell Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  In a perfect world, QMTP would require that a qmtpd accept
  VERP-formatted envelope senders.
 
 Doesn't qmail-qmtpd accept VERPs?

Yes, but it's not required by the QMTP protocol.  It's just an
extension that qmail provides.


paul



Re: In a perfect world

2001-01-13 Thread Mark Delany

On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 08:22:48PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote:
 Felix von Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Thus spake Russell Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   In a perfect world, QMTP would require that a qmtpd accept
   VERP-formatted envelope senders.
  
  Doesn't qmail-qmtpd accept VERPs?
 
 Yes, but it's not required by the QMTP protocol.  It's just an
 extension that qmail provides.

Even then, VERP per se, is not an extension that qmail provides. Sure,
VERP expansion via qmail-send is a performance nicety, but
fundamentally VERP is a neat trick that any decent MTA can (and does)
use.


Regards.



Some assistance?

2001-01-13 Thread Jonathan J. Smith

I need to be able to send/relay all of the messages in a maildir (the
default/catchall for that domain) back out to that domain,
there was a 'cessation' of the domains real mail server, and it is
operational again so the desire is to hand
these messages back to that machine.

Can anyone point me in the right direction to do this in a clean
fashion?  Failing that another way that isn't manual?

Thanks for your time,


Jonathan Smith



Re: [vmailmgr] SMTP and VMailMgr

2001-01-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Lars,

I happen to be having the exact same problem.  Well, almost, I think my
issue is reversed. 

Mail coming in from external STMP checks fine, and ends up in the
correct area and mail boxes.  Users checking their e-mail via POP-3 are told
they do not exist, and therefore are not able to pickup mail.

I have one user exempt to this, but not on purpose.  A previous user set
up in the system seems to be able to read e-mails from his home Maildir.  I
know what your going to say, but mail is not sent to his home Maildir, it is
sent to the alternate within vmailmgr settings.  Well you got that one
right.  So infact that is the only user that can log in, but has not a
single piece of mail to where qmail is getting is mail from.

Basically when an external user attempts to connect to POP3 they are
told they don't exist, because qmail-pop3d is not looking in the correct
area when they get handled by 'checkvpw'. (my guess)  so, how do I change
it?

Anyway, no user is loosing mail, as it is all getting saved in the right
area.

If anyone comes up with a solution to this, it would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers,

Sean


Lars Skovlund wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I have a problem with VMailMgr. When doing SMTP, I am told that the user
 does not exist - POP3 seems to work fine (although, of course, no mail is
 in the mailbox). Putting a few debug statements in vdeliver shows that
 the program is, in fact, invoked.
 
 Specifically, I am told:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 No mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1)
 
 I have created the domain user medarddk.
 
 The logs say: 
 
 starting delivery 12: msg 174209 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I am not sure what the above line _should_ read.
 
 I would be grateful for any help,
 
 Lars
 




Re: Some assistance?

2001-01-13 Thread Scott Gifford

"Jonathan J. Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I need to be able to send/relay all of the messages in a maildir (the
 default/catchall for that domain) back out to that domain,
 there was a 'cessation' of the domains real mail server, and it is
 operational again so the desire is to hand
 these messages back to that machine.

This should point you in the right direction:

http://cr.yp.to/serialmail.html

-ScottG.



Re: newbees guide to the qmail-list [was: problem in delivering mails locally...]

2001-01-13 Thread Russell Nelson

Alex Pennace writes:
  On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 01:08:07PM +0100, Alexander Jernejcic wrote:
   just a suggestion: what about a few lines at www.qmail.org telling people
  
  I doubt it will work.

Me too.  But we could try it.  I could point people to a document that 
says how to get help from the qmail mailing list.  And then I could,
hehe, suggest that people run qmail-lint first.  Bwahahahahaha!

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Re: newbees guide to the qmail-list [was: problem in delivering mails locally...]

2001-01-13 Thread Alex Pennace

On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 10:37:20PM -0500, Russell Nelson wrote:
 Alex Pennace writes:
   On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 01:08:07PM +0100, Alexander Jernejcic wrote:
just a suggestion: what about a few lines at www.qmail.org telling people
   
   I doubt it will work.
 
 Me too.  But we could try it.  I could point people to a document that 
 says how to get help from the qmail mailing list.  And then I could,
 hehe, suggest that people run qmail-lint first.  Bwahahahahaha!

How about we try changing the list name to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]?



Re: upgrade question

2001-01-13 Thread Russell Nelson

M. Yu writes:
  Hello all,
  
  I am using Bruce Guetner's Qmail SRPMs with Courier-IMAP.  I am planning to
  transfer mail services to another machine.  Can I just copy the users'
  Maildir (with its contents) to the new machine?  What I plan to do is this:

Won't work well (step #3 will make users very unhappy):

  1. configure new machine as mail2
  2. add user accounts to mail2
  3. stop mail1 from receiving mails from users by unsetting RELAYCLIENT
  4. wait till mail1 sends all mails currently in queue
  5. stop qmail-smtpd on mail1
  6. backup users' Maildir
  7. transfer backup to mail2
  8. disconnect mail1
  9. rename mail2 to mail1
  10. restart mail services on new mail1

Do this instead:

1. configure new machine as mail1 offline.
2. add user accounts to (new)mail1
3. unplug Ethernet for mail1 and plug in Ethernet for (new)mail1.
4. rename mail1 to be mail2.
5. plug mail2's Ethernet back in.
6. backup users' Maildir
7. transfer backup to mail1 (easy to say, but very time-consuming)
8. Leave mail2 running until its queue empties.

Optionally, if you wish to immediately reuse mail2, ensure that mail2
is allowed by mail1 to relay, and put the following line into
smtproutes:
:mail1
Send an ALRM signal to qmail-send on mail2.  It will dump its queue
onto mail1.  Once it's queue is empty, you may shut down mail2.

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Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | everyone else's expense.



Re: Bogus popularity claims for Sendmail

2001-01-13 Thread Russell Nelson

D. J. Bernstein writes:
  I've set up a web page to combat Sendmail Inc.'s false advertising on
  this topic: http://cr.yp.to/surveys/sendmail.html
  
  Sendmail dropped below 50% of the Internet's SMTP servers---including
  idle workstations---last year; qmail has climbed past 10%. I suspect
  that qmail now handles more Internet mail deliveries than Sendmail does,
  although I don't know a good way to measure this.

The problem is getting the random sample.  You can't just count
servers, you have to count traffic.  And when you start to do that, it
becomes quite difficult to come up with a good random sample.  Best I
can think of is to do what the FBI does: arrange with some Internet
provider to put a traffic analyzer somewhere on their backbone, and
sniff for SMTP sessions.  Check the MTA's on both ends and give each
credit for handling an Internet mail delivery.

You could examine a set of log files, but then how do you count them?
You can't count the MTA that sent and received the email because it's
completely non-random.  And yet, that throws off your statistics.

I could, for example, get you the log files for Rediff.com.  They're
an Indian portal that probably handles 50% of all email in and out of
India.  From the smtpd and qmail log files you could contact each
sending and receiving site.  You could identify the MTA, and count
that as "an Internet mail delivery".

But that sample would be weighted towards personal email, and away
from workplace email.  That makes it much less random.

I could also get you the log files for two ISPs that send daily mail
to all of their customers.  But that weights the sample towards
people interested in that kind of mail.

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hrm....pop3d

2001-01-13 Thread Kurth Bemis



having a bit of a problem with qmail-poop3d. 
when i start it fro mmy init script i get this funky error in the log 
file.

Jan 12 06:54:30 noname pop3d: 979300470.784986 
tcpserver: fatal: unable to figure out port number for pop-3Jan 12 06:54:31 
noname qmail: 979300471.799484 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20

any have any idea what could be causing this? 
when i telnet to the box/ip on port 110 i get no connection. I'm 
running openbsd 2.8 with qmail 1.03 and daemon tools .70 with 
checkpassword .81

~kurth




Re: Bogus popularity claims for Sendmail

2001-01-13 Thread Ricardo Cerqueira

On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 12:02:52AM -0500, Russell Nelson wrote:
 D. J. Bernstein writes:
   
   Sendmail dropped below 50% of the Internet's SMTP servers---including
   idle workstations---last year; qmail has climbed past 10%. I suspect
   that qmail now handles more Internet mail deliveries than Sendmail does,
   although I don't know a good way to measure this.
 
 But that sample would be weighted towards personal email, and away
 from workplace email.  That makes it much less random.
 
 I could also get you the log files for two ISPs that send daily mail
 to all of their customers.  But that weights the sample towards
 people interested in that kind of mail.

And also, gathering server stats from this list would be biased.
I also work in an ISP, a large one (500k+ customers). I could also send you
a bunch of logfiles, both from residential customers, corporate customers,
and even the offices. But, considering most traffic is probably internal,
it would all be qmail talking to qmail. 

RC

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Re: hrm....pop3d

2001-01-13 Thread Andy Bradford

Thus said "Kurth Bemis" on Sun, 14 Jan 2001 00:11:57 EST:

 Jan 12 06:54:30 noname pop3d: 979300470.784986 tcpserver: fatal: unable to figure 
out port number for pop-3
 Jan 12 06:54:31 noname qmail: 979300471.799484 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20

My guess would be that you specified pop-3 in your start script, 
however, pop-3 does not exist in /etc/protocols

Check that an if that's not your problem you will need to provide more 
details about how you setup your pop3 script.

Andy
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Re: hrm....pop3d

2001-01-13 Thread Ricardo Cerqueira

On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 12:11:57AM -0500, Kurth Bemis wrote:
 having a bit of a problem with qmail-poop3d.  when i start it fro mmy init script i 
get this funky error in the log file.
 
 Jan 12 06:54:30 noname pop3d: 979300470.784986 tcpserver: fatal: unable to figure 
out port number for pop-3
 Jan 12 06:54:31 noname qmail: 979300471.799484 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
 
 any have any idea what could be causing this?  

Yeap. "man 5 services".

 when i telnet to the box/ip  on port 110 i get no connection. 

Of course. tcpserver or whichever wrapper you're using isn't bound to any
port.

RC

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Re: hrm....pop3d

2001-01-13 Thread Jeff Lacy

Replace any instance of pop-3 with pop3 in your init script/s.  You really
should have included your init script in your email.

Jeff


- Original Message -
From: "Kurth Bemis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 11:11 PM
Subject: hrmpop3d


having a bit of a problem with qmail-poop3d.  when i start it fro mmy init
script i get this funky error in the log file.

Jan 12 06:54:30 noname pop3d: 979300470.784986 tcpserver: fatal: unable to
figure out port number for pop-3
Jan 12 06:54:31 noname qmail: 979300471.799484 status: local 0/10 remote
0/20

any have any idea what could be causing this?  when i telnet to the box/ip
on port 110 i get no connection.  I'm running openbsd 2.8 with qmail 1.03
and daemon tools .70 with checkpassword  .81

~kurth








Re: hrm....pop3d

2001-01-13 Thread Andy Bradford

Thus said Andy Bradford on Sat, 13 Jan 2001 22:19:11 MST:

 My guess would be that you specified pop-3 in your start script, 
 however, pop-3 does not exist in /etc/protocols

Oops, make that /etc/services (I hate replying to my own replies) :-)

Andy
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APOP

2001-01-13 Thread keng heng



Is it any way to do APOP with 
qmail?