mutt configuration
Dear All! I'm trying to use mutt as MUA and get an error msg when trying to send mail: Error sending message, child exited 127 (Exec error.) The original sendmail binaries have been replaced by the qmail wrapper. cheers Dorian
Re: URL on Exchange retrying like mad
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 09:46:50PM -0500, Peter Green wrote: Looking for a little help... I seem to remember that in certain cases, Exchange will retry immediately after a temporary error, generating a mail storm. I also seem to remember that there was a URL (possibly on microsoft.com) describing the problem. This is a Microsoft confirmed problem and they have a A TARGET="TOP" HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q224/9/83.ASP"bug description and fix/A. I'm trying to make a case against using Exchange (based on the fact that it doesn't obey standards) and this would be really helpful. Interestingly enough the patch mention on this page looks like it never made it in the official "service pack"s. Although I have this URL for about 1.5 years now. To fix the server hosting our NT webservers we'd to pay some $200 bucks for calling M$ hotline and it took them 3 days to mail the patch. So much on "how to make easy money": write broken software and let them pay for fixes. \Maex -- SpaceNet AG | http://www.Space.Net/ | Stress is when you wake Research Development| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | up screaming and you Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 | Tel: +49 (89) 32356-0| realize you haven't D-80807 Muenchen | Fax: +49 (89) 32356-299 | fallen asleep yet.
tcpserver question (OT)
Hi everybody! Sorry, if I'm slightly OT, but I haven't found any else appropriate place to ask my question. I am currently installing tcpserver as a full replacement for xinetd. What I depend on, are the services, that are considered internal by xinetd (daytime, time, echo, discard). Unfortunately I did not find any hint in tcpserver's documentation nor any software on freshmeat that could fulfill this service. I would be pleased if anybody could point me in the right direction where and what to search to solve this problem. Thanks a lot in advance, Mario -- .~.Mario Thaten ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) /V\ /( )\ "There are just 2 rules in life: ^ ^ Always be yourself, but never mind to change."
Re: who rotates the logs?
Am 18.01.2001 um 14:31:26 schrieb Dave Sill: Hi Dave, yes I have and it is *exactly* what I need, but if I did not misread the docu, isoqlog uses syslog and I really would like to keep this away from syslog. Argh. You're right. I assumed it was based on multilog since syslog sucks so bad... Anyway, as I did not get a response from the IsoQlog-People I ask you one again: Can you imagine a way how to process multilog-mails with IsoQlog (which needs Syslo-style-logs). Furthermore I likely run into trouble because IsoQLog wants to rotate te logs on its own so I think one would have to make sure each log-entry must only be passed once to IsoQlog even when it gets processed several times. Any Ideas? Is there no ISP out that uses qmail and is interested which of his domains uses the mailserver how much? I do not necessrily need all the html-stuff, I just want to know in the end of the month who caused how much traffic like this. DOMAIN IN OUT domain1.tld 23MB143MB domain2.tld 42MB879MB This information is in the logs, how do I get it out? I do not offer any smtp-servives for domains not located on the server (smtp-auth, smtp-after-pop etc.) so I should be able to get perfectly correct stats, schouldn't I? /ch
qmail Digest 19 Jan 2001 11:00:00 -0000 Issue 1249
qmail Digest 19 Jan 2001 11:00:00 - Issue 1249 Topics (messages 55480 through 55585): remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] 55480 by: Nejc Suhadolc Re: qmail-remote Address 55481 by: Johan Almqvist Re: who rotates the logs? 55482 by: Clemens Hermann 55492 by: Dave Sill 55493 by: Kevin Bucknum 55494 by: Dave Sill 55508 by: pape.innominate.com 55522 by: Matthew Patterson 55538 by: Clemens Hermann 55540 by: Dave Sill 55541 by: Clemens Hermann 55585 by: Clemens Hermann Re: Another mystery #@[] 55483 by: Chris Johnson Problems with the pop ! 55484 by: Desarrollo y Sistemas 55490 by: Dave Sill vsm to Maildir 55485 by: Dale Herring 55489 by: Dave Sill Problems with POP, ??? 55486 by: Desarrollo y Sistemas 55488 by: Dave Sill Re: need a howto, something i can follow step by step and get qmail installed.. 55487 by: Dave Sill Anybody heard from Michael Samuel? 55491 by: Russell Nelson 55498 by: Magnus Bodin 55501 by: Johan Almqvist 55504 by: Michael Maier 55510 by: Filip Salomonsson 55512 by: Russell Nelson 55516 by: Magnus Bodin 55526 by: Alex Pennace 55545 by: Mark Delany 2 by: Peter van Dijk 55575 by: Alex Pennace 55577 by: Magnus Bodin Re: A firestorm of protest? 55495 by: Dave Sill 55505 by: Piotr Kasztelowicz 55535 by: Paul Jarc 55546 by: Mark Delany Re: Conversion to Maildir Format 55496 by: Dave Sill 55499 by: Manvendra Bhangui 55502 by: Charles Cazabon 55503 by: Dave Sill Re: virus scanning 55497 by: Ruprecht Helms Re: relay-ctrl 55500 by: Charles Cazabon Re: Security Warning : Group Unowned files found : 55506 by: Rick Updegrove Qmail and Syslogd? 55507 by: Collin B. McClendon 55509 by: Greg Owen 55511 by: Dave Sill 55513 by: Manvendra Bhangui 55514 by: Stefan Laudat 55519 by: Dave Sill 55530 by: Piotr Kasztelowicz 55532 by: Dave Sill 55536 by: Piotr Kasztelowicz 55539 by: Dave Sill 55542 by: Piotr Kasztelowicz 9 by: Keary Suska Qmail and Syslogd 55515 by: Collin B. McClendon processing mail before qmail delivers to vmailmgr virtual domain... 55517 by: Sanjay Arora confirming delivery; looking for recommended approach 55518 by: David Geller Re: Help the qmail novice, receive free good karma -- 55520 by: Matthew Patterson why so few qmail-remote processes ... 55521 by: Jacques Frip' WERNERT 55523 by: Greg Cope 55524 by: Mark Delany 55525 by: Dave Sill 55527 by: Jacques Frip' WERNERT 55528 by: Jacques Frip' WERNERT 55531 by: Dave Sill 55581 by: Jacques Frip' WERNERT Re: Help the qmail vmailmgr novice, receive free good karma -- 55529 by: Sean Coyle 55533 by: Matthew Patterson Re: [vmailmgr] Re: Help the qmail vmailmgr novice, receive free good karma -- 55534 by: Bruce Guenter Re: Andrew H Chang/APPLIED MATERIALS is out of the office. 55537 by: Boz Crowther maildir error 55543 by: Durham David R CNTR AMC CSS/SAS 55544 by: Paul Jarc 8 by: Henning Brauer OpenBSD's MUA 55547 by: Alex Le Fevre 55548 by: Charles Cazabon 55549 by: Travis Turner 0 by: Paul Jarc virus scanning mail server 1 by: Bjorn Nilsen 3 by: Thorkild Stray 55564 by: Bjorn Nilsen 55573 by: Jason Haar Virtual domains and forwarding. 4 by: Grant 55560 by: Keary Suska 55562 by: Grant 55565 by: Keary Suska 55566 by: Grant 55567 by: Keary Suska 55570 by: Charles Warwick 55574 by: Grant Autoturn 5 by: Gavin McCord Svscan 6 by: Gavin McCord 7 by: Mark Delany Multiple instances of qmail... 55561 by: msteele.inet-interactif.com 55563 by: Henning Brauer 55569 by: msteele.inet-interactif.com Mailer error 55568 by: Boz Crowther LOAD-BALANCING WITH QMAIL. 55571 by: Ian Matyssik 55576 by: Ian Matyssik URL on Exchange retrying like mad 55572 by: Peter Green 55583 by: Markus Stumpf Re: Bogus popularity claims for Sendmail 55578 by: Russell Nelson qmail wont send 55579 by: Marty Nichols 55580 by: Ian Matyssik mutt configuration 55582 by: Redak, Dorian tcpserver question (OT) 55584 by: Mario Thaten Administrivia: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To bug my human owner, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To post to the list, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt configuration
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:27:44AM +0100, Redak, Dorian wrote: Dear All! I'm trying to use mutt as MUA and get an error msg when trying to send mail: Error sending message, child exited 127 (Exec error.) The original sendmail binaries have been replaced by the qmail wrapper. I don't know what that error mean, but i can send you a muttrc example, similiar to the one i use. best regards, ./bras -- Support Engineer kpnQwest Portugal source ~/.mutt/gpg.rc set alias_file=~/.mutt/aliases source ~/.mutt/aliases set reverse_alias set reverse_name set folder=~/Maildir set spoolfile=+Mailbox/ set mbox=+Mailbox set copy=yes record=+sent save_name set delete=yes set mail_check=5 set indent_string=" " set check_new set beep_new set fast_reply set allow_8bit set resolve set suspend #set pgp_autosign set pgp_timeout=3600 unset confirmappend unset mark_old unset sig_dashes set editor='vim -c "set tw=72" +2' set edit_hdrs=yes #set edit_hdrs editor="/bin/vi +/^\$" set print=ask-no set print_command="mpage -2Hf -bA4 -Phptec" set hidden_host=yes set sort=threads set sort_alias=alias set sort_aux=date-sent set sort_browser=alpha set pager_format="[%Z] %A-%C/%m %.34f%%[%d.%b %y, %H:%M]" set status_format="%r %v [%?M?%M/?%m] %?n?%n new, ?%?p?%p postponed, ?%?t?%t tagged, ?%?d?%d deleted, ?(%h:%f) %?b?%b more to go.?% %r" hdr_order From: Subject: To: CC: BCC: Date: Organization: X-Mailer: ignore * unignore from: date: subject: to: cc: reply-to: unignore organization: organisation: unignore X-Mailer: unignore X-Junked-Because lists bugtraq mailboxes ! +bugtraq send-hook . "unset pgp_autosign" # template folder #folder-hook default 'set move=yes' #folder-hook default 'set mbox=+default.net/' #folder-hook default 'set tmpdir=+default/tmp' #folder-hook default 'set postponed=+default/postponed' #folder-hook default 'set record=+saved/sent.default #folder-hook default 'set sort=date-received' #folder-hook default 'my_hdr From: Jorge Bras [EMAIL PROTECTED]' #folder-hook default 'my_hdr Return-Receipt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' #folder-hook default 'my_hdr Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' #folder-hook default 'set signature=~/.signature' #mbox-hook +default +/saved/in.default # Set defaults for folder-hook folder-hook Mailbox 'set move=yes' folder-hook Mailbox 'set mbox=+Mailbox/' folder-hook Mailbox 'set tmpdir=+Mailbox/tmp' folder-hook Mailbox 'set postponed=+Mailbox/postponed' folder-hook Mailbox 'set record=+saved/sent.mailbox' folder-hook Mailbox 'set sort=date-received' folder-hook Mailbox 'my_hdr From: Moo [EMAIL PROTECTED]' folder-hook Mailbox 'my_hdr Return-Receipt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' folder-hook Mailbox 'my_hdr Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' folder-hook Mailbox 'set signature=~/.signature' mbox-hook +Mailbox +/saved/in.mailbox # bugtraq folder folder-hook bugtraq 'set move=yes' folder-hook bugtraq 'set mbox=+bugtraq.net/' folder-hook bugtraq 'set tmpdir=+bugtraq/tmp' folder-hook bugtraq 'set postponed=+bugtraq/postponed' folder-hook bugtraq 'set record=+saved/sent.bugtraq folder-hook bugtraq 'set sort=date-received' folder-hook bugtraq 'my_hdr From: Me [EMAIL PROTECTED]' folder-hook bugtraq 'my_hdr Return-Receipt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' folder-hook bugtraq 'my_hdr Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' folder-hook bugtraq 'set signature=~/.signature' mbox-hook +bugtraq +/saved/in.bugtraq auto_view application/zip auto_view application/x-gzip auto_view application/x-gunzip auto_view application/pgp-signature auto_view application/pgp auto_view application/octet-stream auto_view application/x-zip-compressed auto_view application/x-arj-compressed auto_view application/x-tar-gz auto_view application/ms-tnef auto_view application/msword auto_view application/x-perl auto_view application/x-sh auto_view application/x-tcl auto_view application/x-delphi-source auto_view text/html auto_view text/x-vcard auto_view image/tiff alternative_order text/enriched text/plain text/html color hdrdefault red default color quoted brightblue default color signature red default color indicator brightyellow red color error brightred default color status yellow blue color tree magenta default color tilde magenta default color message brightcyan default color markers brightcyan default color attachment brightmagenta default color search default green color header brightred default ^(From|Subject): color body magenta default "(ftp|http)://[^ ]+" color body magenta default [-a-z_0-9.]+@[-a-z_0-9.]+ color underline brightgreen default color body brightblue white "(http|ftp|news|telnet|finger)://[^ \"\t\r\n]*" color body brightblue white "mailto:[-a-z_0-9.]+@[-a-z_0-9.]+" mono body bold "(http|ftp|news|telnet|finger)://[^ \"\t\r\n]*" mono body bold "mailto:[-a-z_0-9.]+@[-a-z_0-9.]+" # email addresses color body brightblue white
Re: tcpserver question (OT)
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:27:26AM +0100, Mario Thaten wrote: I am currently installing tcpserver as a full replacement for xinetd. What I depend on, are the services, that are considered internal by xinetd (daytime, time, echo, discard). What do you need those services for? Unfortunately I did not find any hint in tcpserver's documentation nor any software on freshmeat that could fulfill this service. For echo: tcpserver 0 7 cat For discard: tcpserver 0 7 /bin/sh -c 'cat /dev/null' I don't know the specifications for daytime/time off the top of my head, but NTP is much more accurate. I suggest using that instead.
Re: mutt configuration
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:27:44AM +0100, Redak, Dorian wrote: I'm trying to use mutt as MUA and get an error msg when trying to send mail: Error sending message, child exited 127 (Exec error.) The original sendmail binaries have been replaced by the qmail wrapper. Is the partition that /var/qmail/bin is on mounted with either the noexec or nosuid option? If so, you need to remove those options. The qmail binaries need to be executed and qmail-queue is setuid qmailq. james -- James Raftery (JBR54) "Managing 4000 customer domains with BIND has been a lot like herding cats." - Mike Batchelor, on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple instances of qmail...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So let's say each cluster node was using something like /var/qmail/queue/_NODE_IP_HERE_/ on the NFS server, it wouldn't be a problem for the delivery or the Maildirs? The docs fairly clearly say that putting the queue on NFS is a no-no. My understanding has always been that this isn't just because you might be tempted to share it, which obviously wouldn't work, but that the semantics of NFS are not sufficient for how the qmail-queue and delivery programs are written. From 'THOUGHTS', as distributed with qmail-1.03: 5. Handling queued mail (qmail-send, qmail-clean) The queue directory must be local. Mounting it over NFS is extremely dangerous---not that this stops people from running sendmail that way! Diskless hosts should use mini-qmail instead. Delivery to Maildirs on NFS is fine - the order of operations specified are constructed in order that it can be "safe" - although you should note that the recommendation is still to deliver locally and read remotely if you must (obviously on a dedicated NFS server you can't deliver locally.) James.
Re: Multiple instances of qmail...
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 09:12:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henning Brauer wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 07:35:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is, is it possible to run multiple instances of qmail, sharing the same disk structure, configuration, etc.. at least /var/qmail/queue/ must be local. Maildirs on NFS isn't that problem. I won't rely on linux NFS, but thats another thing. So let's say each cluster node was using something like /var/qmail/queue/_NODE_IP_HERE_/ on the NFS server, it wouldn't be a problem for the delivery or the Maildirs? I said /var/qmail/queue must be local, and I mean local. local is definitely another thing as "over NFS". I've taken a quick look at the qmail-smtpd man pages, If we are talking about the queue you should look at qmail-queue of course. As for the OS issue, I've had nothing but trouble with *BSDs, and where You made a fault somewhere. What I'm after is not really a performance boost from qmail (I'm sure it could run as a dedicated server and perform beyond expectations), it's more of a high availability issue. I'm planning on using a network block device on the NFS HA and NFS in one sentence. Interesting. server to do a network RAID-1 for everything that is written to the server, with heartbeat to automatically take over if the main server fails. Coupled with the hardware raid,journaling filesystem, and the clustered servers, I think it would be pretty hard to bring the system completely down. (knock on head) Buy two machines with _fast_ local disk storage systems and place the Maildirs on a shared RAID subsystem. NFS isn't suited for HA. If so, wouldn't this indicate that there aren't any concurrency issue with the queue? Disk throughput for the queue disk is the first performance problem on heavy loaded qmail systems, given you have enough Bandwidth. The queue relies on a good filesystem, the inode stuff is _very_ important. FFS seems to fit best for qmail's needs. -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS| Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg http://www.bsws.de | Germany
Re: Virtual domains and forwarding.
Charles Warwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes the data of the message will 'pass through' that machine. There is no way with SMTP for it to just see the RCPT TO: address and say, no I don't accept that e-mail, please send that to a different mail server. Well, there is. But I've not seen it specifically supported in sender or (non-)receiver: RFC 821 offers: 3.2. FORWARDING [...] 551 User not local; please try forward-path This reply indicates that the receiver-SMTP knows the user's mailbox is on another host and indicates the correct forward-path to use. Note that either the host or user or both may be different. The receiver refuses to accept mail for this user, and the sender must either redirect the mail according to the information provided or return an error response to the originating user. although clearly the bounce that results from that could direct the recipient to send the mail elsewhere. Which may, or may not be, what the original poster was wanting to avoid. James.
how manipulate header
Hello, i've the follows configuration: [POP-Client] - [qmail-intern] - [qmail-extern] - [Internet] when the POP-Client send an email, this goes to qmail-intern, then qmail-extern (I'd like here manipulate the qmail header, put out the header lines from POP-Client and qmail-intern! Only the eMail header lines from qmail-extern should be exist!) -- Internet Have any body any idee? Thank for the help Gustav -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Good MUAs
Thanks to all those who answered my question yesterday about what MUAs are and Maildir configuration. I was able to successfully send Internet mail, albeit with no subject or body. My question today comes after further reading of the included documentation. It says that Pine and Elm are both insecure and unstable, and that BSD mail is worse. However, it makes no mention of a good MUA. What would you all recommend, and where could I get it? I need clients for both my OpenBSD box and eventual Windows clients (for whom I am considering building a POP "toaster"). Thanks, Alex Le Fevre __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Good MUAs
for Unix: mutt, mutt or mutt. Also worth mentioning is mutt. "cd /usr/ports/mail/mutt; make install" on your OpenBSD box. -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS| Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg http://www.bsws.de | Germany
Re: Svscan
Gavin McCord [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've created the /service directory with the necessary permissions and added on one line SV:123456:respawn:env - PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin svscan /service /dev/null /dev/console 2/dev/console This should all be on one line. Maybe it was your mailer that wrapped it, but if not, fix it. However, having HUPped init, there's no new svscan running. I say new because there is an svscan running the qmail programs. How was your old svscan invoked? If it was done by an inittab line that started with SV:, then init thinks this new configuration is supposed to be the same instance. Can I run two svscans, or is there a conflict there? If so, what's the best way to reconcile the /var/qmail/supervise and /service directories. You can run two svscans in different directories, but it'd be better to have just one running in /service. Make symlinks in /service to your qmail service directories, start svscan there, and then (if you want to stop the harmless warnings) svc -dx each of the qmail service directories (including their log directories). paul
Re: Good MUAs
Alex Le Fevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My question today comes after further reading of the included documentation. It says that Pine and Elm are both insecure and unstable, and that BSD mail is worse. However, it makes no mention of a good MUA. What would you all recommend, and where could I get it? I need clients for both my OpenBSD box and eventual Windows clients (for whom I am considering building a POP "toaster"). Emacs runs on both Unix and Windows, so you could use Gnus. It's exceedingly reconfigurable, and it can get mail from lots of different kinds of sources, including POP for your Windows users, and maildir for your Unix users. paul
Re: tcpserver question (OT)
Mario Thaten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I depend on, are the services, that are considered internal by xinetd (daytime, time, echo, discard). It's more likely that you don't depend on them, but since they're turned on by default, you think something might break if you turn them off. But if you really want to run them: tcpserver 0 discard sh -c 'exec cat /dev/null' tcpserver 0 echo cat tcpserver 0 daytime daytimed (Get my daytimed from URL:http://multivac.cwru.edu/prj-utils/daytimed.c.) I don't have a tcpserver time implementation, but it'd be easy enough to write one. Read RFC 868 for the definition. paul
Re: Multiple instances of qmail...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is, is it possible to run multiple instances of qmail, sharing the same disk structure, configuration, etc.. No. The queue cannot be shared by multiple instances of qmail. -Dave
Header
Hi, How i can add: X-Complaint-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in headers ? How change my host in header my cause i have ns1.ndsoftware.net and i want mail.ndsoftware.net Thanks Nicolas DEFFAYET, NDSoftware http://www.ndsoftware.net - [EMAIL PROTECTED] France: Tel +33 671887502 - Fax N/A UK: Tel +44 8453348750 - Fax +44 8453348751 USA: Tel N/A - Fax N/A
Re: Mailer error
"Boz Crowther" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a DOS command-line mailer that doesn't correctly construct mail, it seems. I've used recordio to get exactly what's coming from the mailer in the logs and what I see is that the mailer doesn't include header information specified on the command line after it gets the go ahead to send DATA, although MAIL FROM and RCPT TO are correctly specified. The result is an email without the From or To specified in the recipient's mailbox. Moreover, if I don't include a blank line at the beginning of the body, there will be no body text, either. (If anybody wants to see the output of recordio I can forward it to you, but it's pretty long.) Sounds like that DOS command-line mailer is a POS and a PITA. Why not find a better one? You could probably even write your in perl pretty easily using existing network and SMTP modules. Is there a fixcrio-like utility out there that will correct this problem? You could use something like the "fixme" setup described in: http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/servers.html#network-rewriting But massage the headers before re-injecting the messages. -Dave
Re: Multiple instances of qmail...
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Henning Brauer wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 07:35:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is, is it possible to run multiple instances of qmail, sharing the same disk structure, configuration, etc.. at least /var/qmail/queue/ must be local. Maildirs on NFS isn't that problem. I won't rely on linux NFS, but thats another thing. And the queue is a point of failure, if the filesystem with the queue dies with mail in the queue, said mail is gone. Which means if you really want HA, the queue should sit on a RAID1 or similar. RAID5 would be a nasty performance hit. That's plan A. Plan B is setting up a dedicated mail server, which I would like to avoid if necessary, because it won't scale nearly as well. For first: for performance reasons one qmail machine _might_ be enough. You also might want to look at qmail-ldap with its native clustering support. http://www.nrg4u.com, docs at http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ldap/ You should also spend some thoughts on your OS, the *BSDs may be much better choices for a high volume qmail server. qmail-ldap looks great, LDAP lets you distribute your authorization information and supports HA similar to the way DNS works. However, qmail-ldap's definition of clustering does NOT include HA or failover, last I heard. It does handle distributing mail delivery across a cluster of machines in a transparent manner. $.02 Bill Carlson -- Systems Programmer[EMAIL PROTECTED]| Opinions are mine, Virtual Hospital http://www.vh.org/| not my employer's. University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics|
Re: why so few qmail-remote processes ...
"Jacques Frip' WERNERT" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you tell me much more about that please? From: "Dave Sill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Jacques Frip' WERNERT" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know why I have messages in the queue (ie given by qmail-qstat) and I don't have as many qmail-remote processes as I've defined (verified by chkspawn). One obvious possibility is that the messages in the queue failed temporarily on their previous delivery attempt and qmail-send is just waiting for their retry time to roll around. Sure. Sometimes when you send a message to an address on a remote system, the first attempt may not succeed due to a problem that it considered temporary, either by the remote site or by the SMTP protocol. For example, if you're sending a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and your qmail can look up the address of joesdomain.com in the DNS but it isn't able to connect to its port 25, that's considered a temporary problem. Rather than immediately throwing up its hands and bouncing the message back to the sender, qmail (and other MTA's) keeps the message in its queue and tries periodically to send it. If, after five days (by default), the message is still undelivered, qmail bounces it as permanently undeliverable. -Dave
Re: how manipulate header
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've the follows configuration: [POP-Client] - [qmail-intern] - [qmail-extern] - [Internet] when the POP-Client send an email, this goes to qmail-intern, then qmail-extern (I'd like here manipulate the qmail header, put out the header lines from POP-Client and qmail-intern! Only the eMail header lines from qmail-extern should be exist!) -- Internet Have any body any idee? Sure. Look at: http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/servers.html#network-rewriting You'd want to modify the .qmail-fixup-default file to massage the messages via a script before re-injecting them. -Dave
Re: Multiple instances of qmail...
Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is, is it possible to run multiple instances of qmail, sharing the same disk structure, configuration, etc.. No. The queue cannot be shared by multiple instances of qmail. OTOH, everything else (binaries, configuration, addresses) can be shared. Then if one queue disk dies, you've lost any mail that was in it, but other mail will be unaffected. paul
Re: Multiple instances of qmail...
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:14:09AM -0600, Bill Carlson wrote: On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Henning Brauer wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 07:35:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is, is it possible to run multiple instances of qmail, sharing the same disk structure, configuration, etc.. at least /var/qmail/queue/ must be local. Maildirs on NFS isn't that problem. I won't rely on linux NFS, but thats another thing. And the queue is a point of failure, if the filesystem with the queue dies with mail in the queue, said mail is gone. Which means if you really want HA, the queue should sit on a RAID1 or similar. RAID5 would be a nasty performance hit. I took this a precedence, of course. That's plan A. Plan B is setting up a dedicated mail server, which I would like to avoid if necessary, because it won't scale nearly as well. For first: for performance reasons one qmail machine _might_ be enough. You also might want to look at qmail-ldap with its native clustering support. http://www.nrg4u.com, docs at http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ldap/ You should also spend some thoughts on your OS, the *BSDs may be much better choices for a high volume qmail server. qmail-ldap looks great, LDAP lets you distribute your authorization information and supports HA similar to the way DNS works. However, qmail-ldap's definition of clustering does NOT include HA or failover, last I heard. It does handle distributing mail delivery across a cluster of machines in a transparent manner. You are right. qmail-ldap's clustering is just one important piece of you HA solution. Use some kind of IP based HA solution (like BigIP) for the MXes and the user intercating machines (outgoing SMTP, pop/imap), and build a hot standby solution for your Maildir holding machine. An external RAID with at least two external SCSI busses is a must here. $.02 Bill Carlson -- Systems Programmer[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Opinions are mine, Virtual Hospital http://www.vh.org/| not my employer's. University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics | -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS| Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg http://www.bsws.de | Germany
Re: Multiple instances of qmail...
Exactly.. I have 7 instances of qmail running on a Linux box (don't ask why its a rather long complicated story) and has been that way for about a year now.. No lost messages or anything. Just make sure your running the big concurrency patch. Other than that as far as performance .. It does work faster when each of our major clients has his own qmail process to goto. However that's about the only benefit. --JT - Original Message - From: "Paul Jarc" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Dave Sill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 8:30 AM Subject: Re: Multiple instances of qmail... Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is, is it possible to run multiple instances of qmail, sharing the same disk structure, configuration, etc.. No. The queue cannot be shared by multiple instances of qmail. OTOH, everything else (binaries, configuration, addresses) can be shared. Then if one queue disk dies, you've lost any mail that was in it, but other mail will be unaffected. paul
tcpserver too slow
Any sugestions?
IMAP question
I'm trying to setup squirrel mail and I was wondering if anyone has a suggestion as to which IMAP server I should use. Dave
Re: tcpserver too slow
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 06:13:04PM +0100, Isaac Jaramillo wrote: Any sugestions? Pick a support provider from http://www.qmail.org/top.html#paidsup and share your wonderful attitude with them.
unable to read tcp.smtp.cdb: protocol error
Hello. This is a new install on OpenBSD V2.8 following LWQ...thanks Dave. Fixed one problem by getting a hint from the searchable archive, thanks again Dave Sill, there is some info on this problem there, but not enough to fix it or know WHY it has happened. Looking for a clue here :-) How do I setup the cdb or is this a perm problem ??? Evetything else seems to be running e.g. top load averages: 0.31, 0.19, 0.081;72H11:33:48 27 processes: 1 running, 26 idle CPU states: % user, % nice, % system, % interrupt, % idle Memory: Real: 5148K/13M act/tot Free: 13M Swap: 4K/133M used/tot PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE WAIT TIMECPU COMMAND 9364 root 20 300K 884K idle select 0:00 0.00% sshd 23144 marrandy 180 376K 296K idle pause0:00 0.00% sh 31878 root 180 324K 248K sleep pause0:00 0.00% csh 7683 root 20 96K 420K idle select 0:00 0.00% syslogd 14062 qmails 20 100K 436K idle select 0:00 0.00% qmail-send 17930 root 100 68K 396K sleep nanosl 0:00 0.00% svscan 22702 qmaill-60 36K 344K idle piperd 0:00 0.00% multilog 26530 qmaild 20 60K 448K idle netcon 0:00 0.00% tcpserver 28675 qmaill-60 36K 344K idle piperd 0:00 0.00% multilog 9487 qmailq-60 36K 372K idle piperd 0:00 0.00% qmail-clean 17133 root 20 44K 380K idle select 0:00 0.00% qmail-lspawn 4006 root 180 324K 252K sleep pause0:00 0.00% csh 1 root 100 332K 204K idle wait 0:00 0.00% init 30092 qmailr 20 40K 348K idle select 0:00 0.00% qmail-rspawn 12138 root 30 92K 460K sleep ttyin0:00 0.00% script 30731 root 20 24K 364K idle poll 0:00 0.00% supervise 22284 root 20 24K 364K idle poll 0:00 0.00% supervise 2763 root 20 24K 364K idle poll 0:00 0.00% supervise 17832 root 20 24K 364K idle poll 0:00 0.00% supervise I suppose syslogd should be there if it's beiing used by other processorsor not ?? ps aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 20650 0.0 0.8 284 252 p0 R+11:34AM0:00.00 ps -aux root 7683 0.0 1.396 420 ?? Is11:32AM0:00.06 syslogd root 16728 0.0 1.352 400 ?? Is11:32AM0:00.00 inetd root 9364 0.0 2.8 300 884 ?? Is11:32AM0:00.28 /usr/sbin/ssh root 17930 0.0 1.268 396 C0- S 11:32AM0:00.02 svscan root 24223 0.0 1.5 224 492 ?? Ss11:32AM0:00.01 cron root 2763 0.0 1.124 364 C0- I 11:32AM0:00.01 supervise qma root 22284 0.0 1.124 364 C0- I 11:32AM0:00.01 supervise log root 17832 0.0 1.124 364 C0- I 11:32AM0:00.01 supervise qma root 30731 0.0 1.124 364 C0- I 11:32AM0:00.01 supervise log qmaill 22702 0.0 1.136 344 ?? I 11:32AM0:00.02 /usr/local/bi qmaill 28675 0.0 1.136 344 ?? I 11:32AM0:00.01 /usr/local/bi qmails 14062 0.0 1.4 100 436 ?? I 11:32AM0:00.04 qmail-send marrandy 23144 0.0 0.9 376 296 C0 Is11:32AM0:00.14 -sh (sh) root 31241 0.0 1.544 468 C1 Is+ 11:32AM0:00.01 /usr/libexec/ root 11946 0.0 1.544 468 C2 Is+ 11:32AM0:00.01 /usr/libexec/ root 18579 0.0 1.544 468 C3 Is+ 11:32AM0:00.01 /usr/libexec/ root 15164 0.0 1.544 468 C5 Is+ 11:32AM0:00.01 /usr/libexec/ qmaild 26530 0.0 1.460 448 ?? I 11:32AM0:00.02 /usr/local/bi root 17133 0.0 1.244 380 ?? I 11:32AM0:00.01 qmail-lspawn qmailr 30092 0.0 1.140 348 ?? I 11:32AM0:00.01 qmail-rspawn qmailq9487 0.0 1.236 372 ?? I 11:32AM0:00.01 qmail-clean root 31878 0.0 0.8 324 248 C0 I 11:33AM0:00.13 -csh (csh) root 12138 0.0 1.492 460 C0 S+11:33AM0:00.01 script root 30100 0.0 1.3 104 400 C0 S+11:33AM0:00.01 script root 4006 0.0 0.8 324 252 p0 Ss11:33AM0:00.01 -bin/csh -i root 1 0.0 0.7 332 204 ?? Is11:32AM0:00.01 /sbin/init From /usr/local/sbin/qmail SNIP cdb) tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.smtp.tmp /etc/tcp.smtp chmod 644 /etc/tcp.smtp* echo "Reloaded /etc/tcp.smtp. echo "Reloaded /etc/tcp.smtp." SNIP /etc -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 52 Jan 19 04:39 tcp.smtp No /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb Where do I go from here ? Regards...Martin -- "20 scared-out-of-their-gourds 3 or 4-year olds is an example of what I'd like to do to some of you who are really getting on my nerves."
Re: why so few qmail-remote processes ...
Hello, in fact I trying to know why I can see sometimes 100 qmail-remote processes and sometimes only 10 with many messages in my queue (ie 200). So why qmail-send is not asking rspawn to fork much more ... Regards Frip' - Original Message - From: "Dave Sill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 7:30 PM Subject: Re: why so few qmail-remote processes ... "Jacques Frip' WERNERT" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know why I have messages in the queue (ie given by qmail-qstat) and I don't have as many qmail-remote processes as I've defined (verified by chkspawn). One obvious possibility is that the messages in the queue failed temporarily on their previous delivery attempt and qmail-send is just waiting for their retry time to roll around. -Dave
Re: unable to read tcp.smtp.cdb: protocol error
Martin Randall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a new install on OpenBSD V2.8 following LWQ...thanks Dave. You're welcome. From /usr/local/sbin/qmail SNIP cdb) tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.smtp.tmp /etc/tcp.smtp chmod 644 /etc/tcp.smtp* echo "Reloaded /etc/tcp.smtp. echo "Reloaded /etc/tcp.smtp." SNIP /etc -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 52 Jan 19 04:39 tcp.smtp No /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb Where do I go from here ? Did you skip the step where you do: /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb -Dave
Re: why so few qmail-remote processes ...
"Jacques Frip' WERNERT" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: in fact I trying to know why I can see sometimes 100 qmail-remote processes and sometimes only 10 with many messages in my queue (ie 200). So why qmail-send is not asking rspawn to fork much more ... After a delivery attempt fails, qmail waits a while before retrying it. If it failed once, it's likely it'll fail again if you retry immediately, so that would be wasted effort. paul
Re: unable to read tcp.smtp.cdb: protocol error
Hello Dave On 19-Jan-01, you wrote: SNIP /etc -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 52 Jan 19 04:39 tcp.smtp No /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb Where do I go from here ? Did you skip the step where you do: /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb -Dave No, did that twice. When I did a vi /etc/tcp.smtp I found two identical entries of 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" had to dd one of them. Hmmm...on second thoughts, I wonder if I entered it all on one line ? Would that make a difference ? I'll try it as two separate commands from the shell. Regards...Martin -- Adam West is tied to a giant waffle iron! How will he escape?
Re: Good MUAs
Alex Le Fevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question today comes after further reading of the included documentation. It says that Pine and Elm are both insecure and unstable, and that BSD mail is worse. However, it makes no mention of a good MUA. What would you all recommend, and where could I get it? I need clients for both my OpenBSD box and eventual Windows clients (for whom I am considering building a POP "toaster"). Any unix: mutt (www.mutt.org). Windows: I haven't seen a "good" MUA yet. But you could try Pegasus, Eudora, or Netscape's built-in MUA. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
AVP
Who use AVP with Qmail ? When i try of use it my qmail don't work ! Help me please ! Thanks Nicolas DEFFAYET, NDSoftware http://www.ndsoftware.net - [EMAIL PROTECTED] France: Tel +33 671887502 - Fax N/A UK: Tel +44 8453348750 - Fax +44 8453348751 USA: Tel N/A - Fax N/A
Re: Svscan
I'm getting error msgs to the console (a small selection): supervise: fatal: unable to start lib/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start tmp/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start cdrom/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start bin/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start usr/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start var/run: access denied ad infinitum This from the entry in inittab. -- I'm Keyser Soze...No, I'm Keyser Soze. I'm Keyser Soze and so's my wife! (Monty Python play The Usual Suspects.)
RE: AVP
I have read the manuel but when i have start qmail i can't send mail (qmail tmp error) and i can check my pop account but no mail are download... I have check the right of qmail-que and qmail-queue and i have chack the AVP configuration ! I have stop and start qmail and AVP ! Help me please Thanks very very much ! Nicolas DEFFAYET, NDSoftware http://www.ndsoftware.net - [EMAIL PROTECTED] France: Tel +33 671887502 - Fax N/A UK: Tel +44 8453348750 - Fax +44 8453348751 USA: Tel N/A - Fax N/A -Original Message- From: Felix von Leitner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 8:25 PM To: NDSoftware Subject: Re: AVP Who use AVP with Qmail ? When i try of use it my qmail don't work ! If you can't read the manual yourself, hire someone to do it for you. Felix
bandwidth monitoring/analysis
I am in need of some bandidth monitoring/analysis, of qmail... I need to know what percentage of bandwidth of all running processes qmail is taking, and of that bandwidht, what percentage each virtual domain is taking... I am using the vmailmgr package for virtual domains... Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Barry Smoke
RE: bandwidth monitoring/analysis
I search too but i need the bandwith used by domains and install a quota ! Nicolas DEFFAYET, NDSoftware http://www.ndsoftware.net - [EMAIL PROTECTED] France: Tel +33 671887502 - Fax N/A UK: Tel +44 8453348750 - Fax +44 8453348751 USA: Tel N/A - Fax N/A -Original Message- From: Barry Smoke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 9:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Vmailmgr@Lists. Em. Ca Subject: bandwidth monitoring/analysis I am in need of some bandidth monitoring/analysis, of qmail... I need to know what percentage of bandwidth of all running processes qmail is taking, and of that bandwidht, what percentage each virtual domain is taking... I am using the vmailmgr package for virtual domains... Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Barry Smoke
Re: Svscan
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 07:34:41PM +, Gavin McCord wrote: I'm getting error msgs to the console (a small selection): supervise: fatal: unable to start lib/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start tmp/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start cdrom/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start bin/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start usr/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start var/run: access denied ad infinitum You are starting svscan in /. Either start it in /service or give /service as parameter to svscan. This is all well documented. This from the entry in inittab. -- Henning Brauer | BS Web Services Hostmaster BSWS| Roedingsmarkt 14 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 20459 Hamburg http://www.bsws.de | Germany
Re: Svscan
looks like you didn't give svscan an argument to your service directory. check to see what the svscan line is like. should be invoked like svscan /service, not just svscan or svcan /. -tcl. On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Gavin McCord wrote: I'm getting error msgs to the console (a small selection): supervise: fatal: unable to start lib/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start tmp/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start cdrom/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start bin/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start usr/run: file does not exist supervise: fatal: unable to start var/run: access denied ad infinitum This from the entry in inittab. -- I'm Keyser Soze...No, I'm Keyser Soze. I'm Keyser Soze and so's my wife! (Monty Python play The Usual Suspects.)
LWQ - Which log contains what?
Hi, I want to evaluate the logs that are generated within ma LWQ-Setup. I am not really sure which log directory contains what. /var/loq/qmail /var/log/qmail/smtpd As one might guess the smtpd directory might contain any message that enters or leaves the mailserver via smtp, right? But what is in the /qmail log-dir? Any mail that is processed, also the mails that do not come/go via smtp? If I want to generate statistics and I use only the logs in /var/log/qmail (and I skip the ones in the smtpd subdir) do I then catch any mail that comes to/leaves/passes my server? thanks /ch
Re: unable to read tcp.smtp.cdb: protocol error
Martin Randall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Dave On 19-Jan-01, you wrote: Did you skip the step where you do: /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb No, did that twice. When I did a vi /etc/tcp.smtp I found two identical entries of 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" had to dd one of them. When you run: /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb do you get any output other than the "Reloaded" message? Hmmm...on second thoughts, I wonder if I entered it all on one line ? Would that make a difference ? That depends on what you mean by "it". :-) LWQ says: Allow the local host to inject mail via SMTP: echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' /etc/tcp.smtp /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb That's two separate commands. Each should be entered on one line. The echo command should not be repeated, but the "qmail cdb" can be re-executed to your heart's content. -Dave
QMail Queue
Where i can get log for QMail Queue because i have '451 qq Temporary Problem (#4.3.0)' when in send a mail after install AVP. Thanks Nicolas DEFFAYET, NDSoftware http://www.ndsoftware.net - [EMAIL PROTECTED] France: Tel +33 671887502 - Fax N/A UK: Tel +44 8453348750 - Fax +44 8453348751 USA: Tel N/A - Fax N/A
Re: LWQ - Which log contains what?
Clemens Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I want to generate statistics and I use only the logs in /var/log/qmail (and I skip the ones in the smtpd subdir) do I then catch any mail that comes to/leaves/passes my server? Yes. The smtpd logs record only the arrival of messages through qmail-smtpd. All other processing of those and other messages is recorded in the main log directory. paul
Re: LWQ - Which log contains what?
Clemens Hermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to evaluate the logs that are generated within ma LWQ-Setup. I am not really sure which log directory contains what. /var/loq/qmail /var/log/qmail/smtpd As one might guess the smtpd directory might contain any message that enters or leaves the mailserver via smtp, right? Good guess, but it's wrong. The smtpd directory logs the output of the tcpserver that handles port 25. It's pretty boring, it just shows who connected and when. qmail-smtpd doesn't do any logging itself. But what is in the /qmail log-dir? Any mail that is processed, also the mails that do not come/go via smtp? /var/log/qmail contains the qmail-send logs. This is where all the important information about all delivery attempts is logged. See: http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#logs For more details about the qmail-send logs. If I want to generate statistics and I use only the logs in /var/log/qmail (and I skip the ones in the smtpd subdir) do I then catch any mail that comes to/leaves/passes my server? Yes. -Dave
Re: tcpserver question (OT)
* On 01/19/01 12:15 Alex Pennace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:27:26AM +0100, Mario Thaten wrote: I am currently installing tcpserver as a full replacement for xinetd. What I depend on, are the services, that are considered internal by xinetd (daytime, time, echo, discard). What do you need those services for? I myself rarely need them. But on my network there are programmers that insist on this functionality. And as I am just the executive power... Unfortunately I did not find any hint in tcpserver's documentation nor any software on freshmeat that could fulfill this service. For echo: tcpserver 0 7 cat For discard: tcpserver 0 7 /bin/sh -c 'cat /dev/null' I don't know the specifications for daytime/time off the top of my head, but NTP is much more accurate. I suggest using that instead Ok, I will follow your hints! Thanks a lot to Paul, too! Good night, Mario :) -- .~.Mario Thaten ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) /V\ /( )\ "There are just 2 rules in life: ^ ^ Always be yourself, but never mind to change."
Re: QMail Queue
"NDSoftware" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where i can get log for QMail Queue because i have '451 qq Temporary Problem (#4.3.0)' when in send a mail after install AVP. How did you configure your logging? -Dave
OT: Exclamation marks.
FYI, The US Secret Service uses a formula devised by a psyciatrist to determine the danger level someone poses by their use of exclamation marks. Specifically, the number of exclamation marks they use to make a point. So, I suggest that this list filter out those messages that have this characteristic for everyone's safety. Steve.
Re: A firestorm of protest?
Chris Garrigues wrote: "Upgrade" suggests adding features, rather more than "patch" does; patches are often released to fix bugs. How about "addition" or "extension"? we need something that vaguely impugns the patch, without implying that the patch is required, and we wish to keep current meaning of "patch" and be consistent with all current habits. My nomination is, drumroll please "non-standard option" or , even more impugnly, "unsupported option" These could even be ranked in order of sanity, from the ones that get mentioned all the time on the list, to the ones that are heretical to "official" reccommendations. -- David Nicol 816.235.1187 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Live fast, die young, and leave a beautiful corpse"
Re: unable to read tcp.smtp.cdb: protocol error
Hello Martin On 19-Jan-01, you wrote: No /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb Where do I go from here ? Did you skip the step where you do: /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb -Dave No, did that twice. When I did a vi /etc/tcp.smtp I found two identical entries of 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" had to dd one of them. Hmmm...on second thoughts, I wonder if I entered it all on one line ? Would that make a difference ? I'll try it as two separate commands from the shell. That was it ! duh...mental overload, too much reading. Don't know why I did that. O.K. - it's taken two mails from another server that were queued. /var/log/qmail/current shows them being processed. Will study some more now. I need to have pop3d running via tcpserver from supervise/svscan. Want to add APOP. rblsmtp Play some more with dameontools, then qmailananlog. Then add Publicfile or djbdns for this active machine/domain. This is good. There's a big difference for me from 'playing' with these programs on a computer inside or even disconnected from the lan and actually having it on it's own external IP with domain name. Separating the docs so you don't get confused by mixing them together is also very important. Anyway, more testing to do...thanks everyone. Regards...Martin -- A dress makes no sense unless it inspires men to want to take it off you.
RAID Qmail.
I've searched the archives extensively, and I've learned quite a lot, but I'd like advice on this question: Assuming RAID 1+0 is not an option (due to the expense), what level of RAID is best for storing /Maildir's on a file server (that will be accessible to the SMTP POP servers via NFS). Redudancy is the big issue, otherwise I'd go for RAID 1. The suits are pushing for RAID 5 because they don't know better - and won't listen. Steve.
qmail-mrtg 2.3 : will it work with cyclog ?
Hello, Just tried to install qmail-mrtg 2.3, and see in the config file: * NOTE You must be running MULTILOG inorder to use qmailmrtg. well, I don't know multilog, and if I could make it work without having to reinstall all my servers, it would be nice : is there a way to make it work with cyclog ? The only part which is currently working is qmail-mrtg-queue. For the rest: omega:/usr/local/src/mail/qmailmrtg.2.3/qmailmrtg # cat /var/log/qmail/\@* | qmailmrtg -1 0 0 omega:/usr/local/src/mail/qmailmrtg.2.3/qmailmrtg # cat /var/log/qmail/\@* | qmailmrtg -2 0 0 omega:/usr/local/src/mail/qmailmrtg.2.3/qmailmrtg # cat /var/log/qmail/\@* | qmailmrtg -3 0 0 omega:/usr/local/src/mail/qmailmrtg.2.3/qmailmrtg # cat /var/log/qmail/\@* | qmailmrtg -4 0 0 And with "-v", there is even no output at all (was it not supposed to be "verbose" ? :) (the logs are spreaded in 10 files, which are rotated, and it looks like that: 979735221.804261 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 979735221.807171 bounce msg 483498 qp 24486 979735221.807303 end msg 483498 979735221.807613 new msg 483497 979735221.807745 info msg 483497: bytes 1873 from #@[] qp 24486 uid 507 979735221.825583 starting delivery 2567: msg 483497 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] 979735221.825720 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 979735222.158946 delivery 2567: success: did_1+0+0/ 979735222.159162 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 979735222.159390 end msg 483497 979735511.636177 new msg 483497 979735511.636185 info msg 483497: bytes 1624 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 25151 uid 505 ) Thanks for any hint :) Olivier -- _ Olivier Mueller - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGPkeyID: 0E84D2EA - Switzerland qmail projects: http://omail.omnis.ch - http://webmail.omnis.ch PGP signature
RE: RAID Qmail.
Hey Steve, I'm not sure what your question is, you seem to not want to do RAID 5 and can't do RAID 1+0, that leaves RAID 1 if redundancy is required. Were you mistaking RAID 1 and 0? Basically the only question you really need to ask yourself is how much mail you'll end up storing? If you're going to eventually store more mail than the largest pair of hard drives you can afford right now, then RAID 1 won't be an option that will let you easily grow later, you'll need RAID 5 so you can start small now and add disks as needed. I'm sure any decent RAID 5 controller can pump data out fast enough to saturate a fast ethernet segment with NFS reads from your POP3 servers. Dave -Original Message- From: Steve Fulton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 5:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RAID Qmail. I've searched the archives extensively, and I've learned quite a lot, but I'd like advice on this question: Assuming RAID 1+0 is not an option (due to the expense), what level of RAID is best for storing /Maildir's on a file server (that will be accessible to the SMTP POP servers via NFS). Redudancy is the big issue, otherwise I'd go for RAID 1. The suits are pushing for RAID 5 because they don't know better - and won't listen. Steve.
Re: qmail-mrtg 2.3 : will it work with cyclog ?
Sorry it will not. works with multilog output! Sean - Original Message - From: "Olivier M." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Sean C Truman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "QMail List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 4:16 PM Subject: qmail-mrtg 2.3 : will it work with cyclog ?
Re: virus scanning
Dale Herring wrote: Does anyone else use the linavx scanning software from AVP? I did find a Note: AVX is not AVP ! See http://www.avp.ch/E/avpqa.htm for details. AVX is from a company I never heard in the past. was it. Are there any other scanners that will scan mail already on the system for these? Or which one seems to work the best in conjunction with Qmail? You may use AMaViS (www.amavis.org) or qmail-scanner (qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net) with your preferred anti virus scanner. Both do not support linavx currently, but, well, I really can't speak for qmail-scanner :-) best regards, Rainer Link -- Rainer Link | Member of Virus Help Munich (www.vhm.haitec.de) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Member of AMaViS Development Team (amavis.org) rainer.w3.to | OpenAntiVirus Project (www.openantivirus.org)
Re: Multiple instances of qmail...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Henning Brauer wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 07:35:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is, is it possible to run multiple instances of qmail, sharing the same disk structure, configuration, etc.. at least /var/qmail/queue/ must be local. Maildirs on NFS isn't that problem. I won't rely on linux NFS, but thats another thing. So let's say each cluster node was using something like /var/qmail/queue/_NODE_IP_HERE_/ on the NFS server, it wouldn't be a problem for the delivery or the Maildirs? If this is the case, is there a startup option I can give to qmail-smtpd to change it's mail queue path? (Or a simple hack) The simple hack is to make /var/qmail/queue a symlink to the real queue directory, somewhere on an NFS server. But unless your system is extremely small, NFS performance will be an issue. We were not able to use NFS-mounted queues for a 40,000 user system at all, with Solaris clients and a NetApp server, arguably two of the best NFS implementations out there. -ScottG.
Re: RAID Qmail.
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Steve Fulton wrote: I've searched the archives extensively, and I've learned quite a lot, but I'd like advice on this question: Assuming RAID 1+0 is not an option (due to the expense), what level of RAID is best for storing /Maildir's on a file server (that will be accessible to the SMTP POP servers via NFS). Redudancy is the big issue, otherwise I'd go for RAID 1. The suits are pushing for RAID 5 because they don't know better - and won't listen. Steve. Well, not knowing anything about what system you are running, I'll still take a stab at a recommendation. The system that we use here is an x86 system running SuSE Linux 6.4. The only IDE (because I don't need expensive SCSI shit) raid controller I found that would definitely work for what I wanted (redundancy, which is also what you said you wanted) is an Arco Duplidisk. Works in any system that has a PCI slot, even ones that don't natively support PCI (eg. DOS). Sure, the setup of the card is done by booting off a DOS floppy, but after that the card is never seen again by you unless a drive fails. In other words, this is probably the easiest solution for you. -- *** Matthew H Patterson Unix Systems Administrator National Support Center, LLC Naperville, Illinois, USA ***
Re: RAID Qmail.
Steve Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 19 January 2001 at 16:59:33 -0500 I've searched the archives extensively, and I've learned quite a lot, but I'd like advice on this question: Assuming RAID 1+0 is not an option (due to the expense), what level of RAID is best for storing /Maildir's on a file server (that will be accessible to the SMTP POP servers via NFS). Redudancy is the big issue, otherwise I'd go for RAID 1. The suits are pushing for RAID 5 because they don't know better - and won't listen. Um; 0 is striping, 1 is mirroring, right? I don't do this enough to be confident of the numbers. So if mirroring is too expensive, the only option available for consideration is RAID 5, parity. It has less redundancy than mirroring, but good reliability (survives loss of one disk). -- David Dyer-Bennet / Welcome to the future! / [EMAIL PROTECTED] SF: http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ Minicon: http://www.mnstf.org/minicon/ Photos: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/
Re: RAID Qmail.
raid 4 is also an option - NetApp. however, they tend to be pricey. David Dyer-Bennet writes: Steve Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 19 January 2001 at 16:59:33 -0500 I've searched the archives extensively, and I've learned quite a lot, but I'd like advice on this question: Assuming RAID 1+0 is not an option (due to the expense), what level of RAID is best for storing /Maildir's on a file server (that will be accessible to the SMTP POP servers via NFS). Redudancy is the big issue, otherwise I'd go for RAID 1. The suits are pushing for RAID 5 because they don't know better - and won't listen. Um; 0 is striping, 1 is mirroring, right? I don't do this enough to be confident of the numbers. So if mirroring is too expensive, the only option available for consideration is RAID 5, parity. It has less redundancy than mirroring, but good reliability (survives loss of one disk). -- David Dyer-Bennet / Welcome to the future! / [EMAIL PROTECTED] SF: http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ Minicon: http://www.mnstf.org/minicon/ Photos: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ - Paul Theodoropoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Unix Systems Administrator Syntactically Subversive Services, Inc. http://www.anastrophe.net Downtime Is Not An Option
Qmail-Scanner
http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net
Hi,
Can you send me a sample of /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail ?
My file
*TOP*
#!/bin/sh
# Qmail Startup
# Source function library.
. /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions
# See how we were called.
case "$1" in
start)
echo -n "Starting: "
env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin" \
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-start ./Maildir/ /usr/local/bin/tai64n \
| /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog /var/log/qmail
echo -n "qmail "
env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin" \
tcpserver -H -R -c100 0 pop-3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup \
ns207.ovh.net \
/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir
echo -n "pop "
env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin" \
tcpserver -H -R -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c100 -u503 -g503 0 smtp \
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 21 /dev/null
echo "smtp"
;;
stop)
echo -n "stopping qmail"
killproc qmail-send
killproc tcpserver
echo
;;
restart)
$0 stop
$0 start
;;
status)
status qmail
;;
*)
echo "Usage: qmail {start|stop|restart|status}"
exit 1
esac
exit 0
*END*
At this stage the Qmail startup script(s) (e.g. /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail )
will need to be updated so that Qmail knows to use qmail-scanner-queue.pl
instead of qmail-queue.
echo -n "qmail-smtpd, "
QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl" export QMAILQUEUE
(ulimit -d 5120 -m 2048 tcpserver -l`hostname -f` -c20 -b30 -P -h -R -t10
\
-O -Q -v -x/var/qmail/control/tcprules.cdb \
-gQMAILDUSER -uQMAILDGROUP 0 25 qmail-smtpd 21) | splogger tcpserver
How i add it ?
Help me please !
Thanks
Nicolas DEFFAYET, NDSoftware
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Re: qmail-mrtg 2.3 : will it work with cyclog ?
* Olivier M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010119 18:52]: On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 04:34:22PM -0600, Sean C Truman wrote: Sorry it will not. works with multilog output! ok, so now is there a way to convert an accustamp-based log to an tai64-based log ? Your friend and mine, Bruce Guenter, has just the thing. Check out the qlogtools package at http://em.ca/~bruceg/qlogtools/ for tai64n2tai. :-) /pg -- Peter Green : Gospel Communications Network, SysAdmin : [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Linux don't need no steenkin' viruses. The users can destroy the system all by themselves (Peter Dalgaard in comp.os.linux.misc)
qmail-mrtg concurrency
I've got concurrencylocal set to 50, and concurrencyremote set to 40. However, looking at my MRTG graphs created by qmail-mrtg from prodigysolutions, it would appear something is limiting concurrency to 30. The maximal 5 minute plot (magenta, remote I believe) is almost flat against 30 for most of the day, and the blue line never goes above it. Am I missing something, or is qmail-mrtg? Hmmm... it is v 1.0. Maybe I'll upgrade. jon
Re: RAID Qmail.
David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Steve Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 19 January 2001 at 16:59:33 -0500 I've searched the archives extensively, and I've learned quite a lot, but I'd like advice on this question: Assuming RAID 1+0 is not an option (due to the expense), what level of RAID is best for storing /Maildir's on a file server (that will be accessible to the SMTP POP servers via NFS). Redudancy is the big issue, otherwise I'd go for RAID 1. The suits are pushing for RAID 5 because they don't know better - and won't listen. Um; 0 is striping, 1 is mirroring, right? I don't do this enough to be confident of the numbers. So if mirroring is too expensive, the only option available for consideration is RAID 5, parity. It has less redundancy than mirroring, but good reliability (survives loss of one disk). You are correct. Zero (0) is striping, one (1) is mirroring and five (5) is parity. The OPs wording is confusing, or he's got 0 and 1 reversed in his head somehow (or a complete misunderstanding of RAID levels) For the curious (just the first hit I found from Google ;) ): http://www.express-inc.com/docs/diskarry/raid.htm GW
