Re: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: robin@socha.net

2001-07-24 Thread Stephen Bosch

Kirti S. Bajwa wrote:
 
 Sorry Business manners have nothing to do whether you pay or not.

Right -- it's simple professionalism. It doesn't take much to be polite.

You don't have to reply if you don't want to.

-Stephen-



Re: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: robin@socha.net

2001-07-23 Thread KK

Hi All -

I apologize for overlooking the fact that this is not a linux system admin
mailing list. Anyway, thanks for all the help. I am not running any mail
server; being a new bee, am just experimenting with various options
available to configure qmail with other add-ons.

- Original Message -
From: Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 1:11 PM
Subject: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic users for
IMAP Email services) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 12:09:43PM +0530, KK wrote:
  Can I create dynamic system users using the command useradd from
  inside a perl script/java servlet which need not run as root? I
  suppose that only root has the privilege to create system users.
  Is there a way around this?

 I presume that your are well aware of the fact that this has nothing
 to do whatsoever with qmail. If you are too incompetent to use a
 search engine, why are you running a mail server?

 RTFM: man 5 sudoers:
 Cmnd_Alias  USERADD=/sbin/useradd
 www ALL=NOPASSWD: USERADD

  Any suggestions/help is appreciated.

 http://learn.to/edit_messages/ - before your EVER submit mail to a
 technical mailing list again.
 --
 Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm).
 `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They
 prefer to be called Sons Of The Third Reich.' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)





RE: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: robin@socha.net

2001-07-23 Thread Kirti S. Bajwa

 If you are too incompetent to use a
 search engine, why are you running a mail server?

I am just wondering if hurdling insults at the first opportunity is the
direction this list is heading towards. What happened to common decency and
business manners?


Kirti Kirt S. Bajwa
GM/CTO
TIB, Inc.
Mountain City, TN 37683-0049

Tel: (423) 727-3001   Fax: (423) 727-3002
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: KK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 3:33 AM
To: Robin S. Socha
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic
users for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi All -

I apologize for overlooking the fact that this is not a linux system admin
mailing list. Anyway, thanks for all the help. I am not running any mail
server; being a new bee, am just experimenting with various options
available to configure qmail with other add-ons.

- Original Message -
From: Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 1:11 PM
Subject: How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic users for
IMAP Email services) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 12:09:43PM +0530, KK wrote:
  Can I create dynamic system users using the command useradd from
  inside a perl script/java servlet which need not run as root? I
  suppose that only root has the privilege to create system users.
  Is there a way around this?

 I presume that your are well aware of the fact that this has nothing
 to do whatsoever with qmail. If you are too incompetent to use a
 search engine, why are you running a mail server?

 RTFM: man 5 sudoers:
 Cmnd_Alias  USERADD=/sbin/useradd
 www ALL=NOPASSWD: USERADD

  Any suggestions/help is appreciated.

 http://learn.to/edit_messages/ - before your EVER submit mail to a
 technical mailing list again.
 --
 Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm).
 `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They
 prefer to be called Sons Of The Third Reich.' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)




How to piss people off easily (Was: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services) Reply-To: robin@socha.net

2001-07-21 Thread Robin S. Socha

On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 12:09:43PM +0530, KK wrote:
 Can I create dynamic system users using the command useradd from
 inside a perl script/java servlet which need not run as root? I
 suppose that only root has the privilege to create system users.
 Is there a way around this?

I presume that your are well aware of the fact that this has nothing
to do whatsoever with qmail. If you are too incompetent to use a
search engine, why are you running a mail server? 

RTFM: man 5 sudoers:
Cmnd_Alias  USERADD=/sbin/useradd
www ALL=NOPASSWD: USERADD

 Any suggestions/help is appreciated.

http://learn.to/edit_messages/ - before your EVER submit mail to a
technical mailing list again.
-- 
Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm).
`In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They
prefer to be called Sons Of The Third Reich.' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)



Re: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services

2001-07-20 Thread KK

Thanks to all for giving quite a no. of solutions to the following pbl. One
more query though.

Can I create dynamic system users using the command useradd from inside a
perl script/java servlet which need not run as root? I suppose that only
root has the privilege to create system users. Is there a way around this?

Any suggestions/help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

KK
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: KK
To: Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 7:32 PM
Subject: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services

Hello Everyone -

I am a new entrant to the qmail world and have recently installed the
qmail_1.03 server on a Red Hat Linux 6.0. I have also istalled the UW-imap
server with Maildir support. I have successfully configured NS-Communicator
to send and receive mails using the IMAP ptotocol using qmail. I am even
able to send and receive emails using Outlook Express from other Windows
systems in the local network. For accessing thses emails, I was creating
system users by logging-in as root and using the LInuxConf utility. Now my
questions are:

1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords) and the
mail directories within the users home directories from inside an
email-client application, which uses the IMAP protocol to access emails
(just like it is done on hotmail.com or any other web-based email systems)?

2. Is the creation of system users avoidable for generating email addresses?
For eg. can I have an email addrress account hosted on the above email
server - [EMAIL PROTECTED] without creating a system user named joe? If
yes, how can I make this possible, both as a root user and also from within
an email-client application? Is there a readymade script available to do
this?




How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services

2001-07-19 Thread KK



Hello Everyone -


I am a new entrant to the "qmail" world and have recently 
installed the qmail_1.03 server on a Red Hat Linux 6.0. I have also istalled the 
UW-imap server with Maildir support. I have successfully configured 
NS-Communicator to send and receive mails using the IMAP ptotocol using qmail. I 
am even able to send and receive emails using Outlook Express from other Windows 
systems in the local network. For accessing thses emails, I was creating system 
users by logging-in asrootand using the LInuxConf utility. Now my 
questions are:

1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them 
passwords) and the mail directories within the users home directories from 
inside an email-client application, which uses the IMAP protocol to access 
emails (just like it is done on hotmail.com or any other web-based email 
systems)?

2. Is the creation of system users avoidable for generating 
email addresses? For eg. can I have an email addrress account hosted on the 
above email server - [EMAIL PROTECTED]without 
creating asystem user named "joe"? If yes, howcan I make this 
possible, both as a root user and also from within an email-client application? 
Is there a readymade script available to do this?

I hope I have explainedmy problem in the right sense and 
am able to put acrossthe issue at hand.Any (and 
in fact all) replies/help is highly appreciated. Hoping to get some replies from 
the techie gurus.

Thanks  kind regards.

KK
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services

2001-07-19 Thread Robin S. Socha

* KK [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010719 11:39]:

Turn off HTML and wrap your lines properly. Your message looks like shit
and is 4x too big.

 I am a new entrant to the qmail world and have recently installed
 the qmail_1.03 server on a Red Hat Linux 6.0. I have also istalled the
 UW-imap server with Maildir support. 

So you're using an outdated and insecure OS along with the IMAP server
from hell. Good luck.

 1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords)
 and the mail directories within the users home directories from inside
 an email-client application, which uses the IMAP protocol to access
 emails (just like it is done on hotmail.com or any other web-based
 email systems)?

Not at all. Hotmail and similar sites uses CGI scripts to create the
account. Check http://www.inter7.com/vqregister/

 2. Is the creation of system users avoidable for generating email
 addresses? 

Check http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail/ God bless inter7.com.



Re: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services

2001-07-19 Thread Greg White

On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 09:53:23PM +0530, KK wrote:
 Hello Everyone -
 
 I am a new entrant to the qmail world and have recently installed the qmail_1.03 
server on a Red Hat Linux 6.0. I have also istalled the UW-imap server with Maildir 
support. I have successfully configured NS-Communicator to send and receive mails 
using the IMAP ptotocol using qmail. I am even able to send and receive emails using 
Outlook Express from other Windows systems in the local network. For accessing thses 
emails, I was creating system users by logging-in as root and using the LInuxConf 
utility. Now my questions are:
 
 1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords) and the mail 
directories within the users home directories from inside an email-client 
application, which uses the IMAP protocol to access emails (just like it is done on 
hotmail.com or any other web-based email systems)?

Let me see if I understand this correctly -- you want to create mail
accounts from within an MUA? If that's what you're asking, it cannot be
done, and if it could I would run* as from from qmail as humanly
possible. Even Microsoft does not have this feature. If this is not
what you're asking, please restate the nature of the problem.

*screaming.
 
 2. Is the creation of system users avoidable for generating email addresses? For eg. 
can I have an email addrress account hosted on the above email server - 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] without creating a system user named joe? If yes, how can I 
make this possible, both as a root user and also from within an email-client 
application? Is there a readymade script available to do this?

Lots of options available here. Start with 'man qmail-users'. Look into
the 'vpopmail' package, or its alternative (whose name escapes me at
this moment). System accounts are not a requirement, and there are tons
of ways to attack the problem.

-- 
Greg White



Re: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services

2001-07-19 Thread Lukas Beeler

At 21:53 19.07.2001 +0530, you wrote:
Hello Everyone -

I am a new entrant to the qmail world and have recently installed the 
qmail_1.03 server on a Red Hat Linux 6.0. I have also istalled the UW-imap 
server with Maildir support. I have successfully configured 
NS-Communicator to send and receive mails using the IMAP ptotocol using 
qmail. I am even able to send and receive emails using Outlook Express 
from other Windows systems in the local network. For accessing thses 
emails, I was creating system users by logging-in as root and using the 
LInuxConf utility. Now my questions are:

1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords) and 
the mail directories within the users home directories from inside an 
email-client application, which uses the IMAP protocol to access emails 
(just like it is done on hotmail.com or any other web-based email systems)?


check out www.qmail.org, there are several solutions...

2. Is the creation of system users avoidable for generating email 
addresses? For eg. can I have an email addrress account hosted on the 
above email server - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 
without creating a system user named joe? If yes, how can I make this 
possible, both as a root user and also from within an email-client 
application? Is there a readymade script available to do this?


see 1. there are web-administration solutions to do this

I hope I have explained my problem in the right sense and am able to put 
across the issue at hand. Any (and in fact all) replies/help is highly 
appreciated. Hoping to get some replies from the techie gurus.

Thanks  kind regards.

KK
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
--/-/-- Lukas Beeler  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---\-\--
   \ \  My HomePage: URL:http://www.projectdream.org  / /




Re: How to create dynamic users for IMAP Email services

2001-07-19 Thread Robin S. Socha

* Greg White [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010719 12:58]:
 On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 09:53:23PM +0530, KK wrote:

  1. How do I create dynamic system users (and assign them passwords)
  and the mail directories within the users home directories from
  inside an email-client application, which uses the IMAP protocol to
  access emails (just like it is done on hotmail.com or any other
  web-based email systems)?
 
 Let me see if I understand this correctly -- you want to create mail
 accounts from within an MUA? If that's what you're asking, it cannot be
 done, and if it could I would run* as from from qmail as humanly
 possible. Even Microsoft does not have this feature. If this is not
 what you're asking, please restate the nature of the problem.

Eh. You're in Unixland, not in Redmon. Sure it could be done. man
procmail maildrop if you're into deviant sexual practices. Hmmm... come
to think of it, man dotqmail would even do. Wicked.