Re: sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:____/

2001-06-27 Thread Peter van Dijk

On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 10:33:32AM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote:
> Alfonso Armenta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Although in my log quote I used fake addresses those were just slightly
> > changed. The usual protect the innocent (not from the regulars from this
> > list, of course).
> > 
> > Actually I do remember obtaining one of those messages and log entries when
> > I tried to subscribe to this list. Which would mean that q-mail smtp daemons
> > do give this Remote_host_said: response.
> 
> "sender was rejected" usually means that the remote SMTP server issued a 5xx
> or 4xx code after the MAIL FROM: command.  This can be due to DNS problems
> when remote sites use bogus anti-spam measures.

(or) badmailfrom. (you could consider that bogus too :)

> You'll also see this with some sites that reject empty envelope senders (i.e.,
> you can't send a bounce to them).

http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/

Greetz, Peter
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Re: sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:____/

2001-06-27 Thread Charles Cazabon

Alfonso Armenta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Although in my log quote I used fake addresses those were just slightly
> changed. The usual protect the innocent (not from the regulars from this
> list, of course).
> 
> Actually I do remember obtaining one of those messages and log entries when
> I tried to subscribe to this list. Which would mean that q-mail smtp daemons
> do give this Remote_host_said: response.

"sender was rejected" usually means that the remote SMTP server issued a 5xx
or 4xx code after the MAIL FROM: command.  This can be due to DNS problems
when remote sites use bogus anti-spam measures.

You'll also see this with some sites that reject empty envelope senders (i.e.,
you can't send a bounce to them).

In general, sites that use either of these strategies aren't worth sending
mail to.

Charles
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RE: sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:____/

2001-06-27 Thread Alfonso Armenta

That didn't seem to do, apparently, I checked the correct functionality of our DNS and 
so on.

Although in my log quote I used fake addresses those were just slightly changed. The 
usual protect the innocent (not from the
regulars from this list, of course).

Actually I do remember obtaining one of those messages and log entries when I tried to 
subscribe to this list. Which would mean that
q-mail smtp daemons do give this Remote_host_said: response.

Anyone has any pointers?

The weirdest thing is that we have another qmail installation in here that does not 
receive any of those messages at all. Although I
could re-route all outgoing e-mail to it, I rather not as it is a customer system.

I am trying to figure out what is the reason for _our_ server to fail, rather than 
just patch it using another one that works...

Yet again, thanks for your time.

-Original Message-
From: Ahmad Ridha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 3:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:/


Alfonso Armenta writes:

>>> new msg 2703468
>>> info msg 2703468: bytes 4430 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 28506 uid 502
>>> starting delivery 106109: msg 2703468 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> status: local 0/100 remote 1/100
>>> delivery 106109: failure: 
>Connected_to_195.98.97.5_but_sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:/
>>> status: local 0/100 remote 0/100
>>> bounce msg 2703468 qp 28512
>>> end msg 2703468
>
> Apparently this is 'random' error.
>
> The user then gets a bounce like this:
>
> Connected to 195.98.97.5 but sender was rejected.
> Remote host said: 
>
> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>
> Any clues/hints?
>

Is your fqdn valid (known to the Internet)? I experienced the error when
experimenting with my first qmail installation using unknown fqdn and the
destination host did domain checking. I noticed usa.net and stupid.com were
some of such ones.

Regards,

Ahmad Ridha




Re: sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:____/

2001-06-21 Thread Ahmad Ridha

Alfonso Armenta writes: 

>>> new msg 2703468
>>> info msg 2703468: bytes 4430 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 28506 uid 502
>>> starting delivery 106109: msg 2703468 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> status: local 0/100 remote 1/100
>>> delivery 106109: failure: 
>Connected_to_195.98.97.5_but_sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:/
>>> status: local 0/100 remote 0/100
>>> bounce msg 2703468 qp 28512
>>> end msg 2703468
> 
> Apparently this is 'random' error. 
> 
> The user then gets a bounce like this: 
> 
> Connected to 195.98.97.5 but sender was rejected.
> Remote host said:  
> 
> --- Below this line is a copy of the message. 
> 
> Any clues/hints? 
> 

Is your fqdn valid (known to the Internet)? I experienced the error when 
experimenting with my first qmail installation using unknown fqdn and the 
destination host did domain checking. I noticed usa.net and stupid.com were 
some of such ones. 

Regards, 

Ahmad Ridha