RE: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-08 Thread Virginia Chism


Just to get the syntax right in my mind (and my notes), as I understand from
the information I have received,

'echo newdomain.com:alias-newdomain /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains'
will overwrite virtualdomains, while

'echo newdomain.com:alias-newdomain  \
/var/qmail/control/virtualdomains'
will simply add to virtuals.  And I don't need to put the 'www.' in front of
the 'newdomain,' is this correct?




RE: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-08 Thread Virginia Chism

OK, I am learning, slowly but surely.  Now I need to know how to send a
SIGHUP.  I don't think it is good for my system to keep rebooting every time
I make a change in qmail.  In /var/qmail/bin I have qmail-start, but have
not been able to locate a qmail-restart or a qmail-stop anywhere.  If I
could locate these or learn how to send qmail-send a SIGHUP, I feel I would
be making real progress.


 It sounds like you didn't send qmail-send a SIGHUP. You need to
 do that to get
 it to reread virtualdomains.

 Chris





Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-08 Thread David Gartner

That's right.  You don't need the www. and you also can type that second line
without the \ ie:


echo newdomain.com:alias-newdomain  var/qmail/control/virtualdomains

Virginia Chism wrote:

 Just to get the syntax right in my mind (and my notes), as I understand from
 the information I have received,

 'echo newdomain.com:alias-newdomain /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains'
 will overwrite virtualdomains, while

 'echo newdomain.com:alias-newdomain  \
 /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains'
 will simply add to virtuals.  And I don't need to put the 'www.' in front of
 the 'newdomain,' is this correct?




Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-08 Thread Charles Cazabon

Virginia Chism [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Just to get the syntax right in my mind (and my notes), as I understand from
 the information I have received,
 
 'echo newdomain.com:alias-newdomain /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains'
 will overwrite virtualdomains, while
 
 'echo newdomain.com:alias-newdomain  \
 /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains'
 will simply add to virtuals.

Yes.

 And I don't need to put the 'www.' in front of the 'newdomain,' is this
 correct?

Depends on what you want.  If the mail is addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
then you don't need it.  If the mail is addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
you do need it.

Charles
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RE: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-08 Thread TransWan

To send qmail a SIGHUP:

type:

killall -SIGHUP qmail

this will send a SIGHUP to all processes running that are named qmail.

or, type:
ps -e

and find qmail on the list.

then:
kill -SIGHUP the pid of qmail you saw in the output of ps

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On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Virginia Chism wrote:

 OK, I am learning, slowly but surely.  Now I need to know how to send a
 SIGHUP.  I don't think it is good for my system to keep rebooting every time
 I make a change in qmail.  In /var/qmail/bin I have qmail-start, but have
 not been able to locate a qmail-restart or a qmail-stop anywhere.  If I
 could locate these or learn how to send qmail-send a SIGHUP, I feel I would
 be making real progress.
 
 
  It sounds like you didn't send qmail-send a SIGHUP. You need to
  do that to get
  it to reread virtualdomains.
 
  Chris
 
 




Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-08 Thread Tom Beer

Yes, but doing SIGHUP's is not qmail
related. It's a general unix issue, so you may
read  the Config-HOWTO, to find it
you can use www.google.com

Tom


 OK, I am learning, slowly but surely.  Now I need to know how to send a
 SIGHUP.  I don't think it is good for my system to keep rebooting every
time
 I make a change in qmail.  In /var/qmail/bin I have qmail-start, but have
 not been able to locate a qmail-restart or a qmail-stop anywhere.  If I
 could locate these or learn how to send qmail-send a SIGHUP, I feel I
would
 be making real progress.


  It sounds like you didn't send qmail-send a SIGHUP. You need to
  do that to get
  it to reread virtualdomains.
 
  Chris
 







Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-08 Thread Claudio Nieder

Hi,

 killall -SIGHUP qmail

though it's off-topic, but so that nobody who later reads this thread in the
archive will accidently bringdown it's system, this note:

Depending on the Unix-Flavour you use killall will not kill only the processes
named qmail but all processes. There exists implementations of killall which
do not read any arguments except the signal name and send it really to *ALL* 
processes on your box.
claudio
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Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-08 Thread peter green

* TransWan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010608 17:57]:
 To send qmail a SIGHUP:
 
 type:
 
 killall -SIGHUP qmail

Be careful, this doesn't mean what you think it means on some operating
systems. (On some systems, `killall` means to shutdown, IIRC.) Besides,
there isn't even a ``qmail'' process to send a SIGHUP...

/pg
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Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-07 Thread Greg White

On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 11:00:35AM -0500, Virginia Chism wrote:
 Until I get this mess fixed, please cc responses to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sorry, but it is the only way I can receive email right now.
 
 I seem to have done something to break my qmail.  Yesterday afternoon, I
 added a virtual user in /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains and put his
 forwarding address in alias/.qmail-garnette-monte and added his domain to
 rcpthosts then restarted.  I did not notice at the time (because I left work
 right after that), but I have not received ANY email since I did that.  We
 have a UNIX box running BSDi 4.0, QMail, Apache and FP.
 
 This morning I did a 'tail -f /var/log/maillog' and found tons of bounce
 messages going out and the following messages about incoming mail:
 
 Jun  7 09:57:54 midnightsun qmail: 991925874.483380 starting delivery 434:
 msg 2
 77962 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Jun  7 09:57:54 midnightsun qmail: 991925874.490779 status: local 0/10
 remote 1/
 20
 Jun  7 09:57:54 midnightsun qmail: 991925874.510962 delivery 434: failure:
 Sorry
 ._Although_I'm_listed_as_a_best-preference_MX_or_A_for_that_host,/it_isn't_i
 n_my
 _control/locals_file,_so_I_don't_treat_it_as_local._(#5.4.6)/

From this information, and the information you've provided below, it
looks to me that you probably did something like this:

echo example.com:example.com  /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains

I doubt that this is what you wanted... see below.


 
 I cehecked control/locals and found my main server,
 'midnightsun.chismtrail.com' so I added just plain 'chismtrail.com' in case
 that might be the problem, even though it has been working like that just
 fine in the past.  It did not help.  Now I am getting the following
 messages:
SNIP logs...
 
 There is a [EMAIL PROTECTED], in
 
 /usr/var/vpopmail/users
 

SNIP listing.

From this alone, it appears that chismtrail.com was a virtual domain,
and should never have been in 'locals'. Add it back to virtualdomains,
and put 'locals' back the way it was.

Please let us know if I nailed it first try...;)

-- 
Greg White
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
revolution inevitable.
-- John F. Kennedy



RE: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-07 Thread Tim Hunter

Make sure you check in /var/qmail/users/assign and make sure that is
pointing to the correct place for your virtual domains and check that the
uid/gid is correct.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 12:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: suddenly cannot receive email


Until I get this mess fixed, please cc responses to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry, but it is the only way I can receive email right now.

I seem to have done something to break my qmail.  Yesterday afternoon, I
added a virtual user in /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains and put his
forwarding address in alias/.qmail-garnette-monte and added his domain to
rcpthosts then restarted.  I did not notice at the time (because I left work
right after that), but I have not received ANY email since I did that.  We
have a UNIX box running BSDi 4.0, QMail, Apache and FP.

This morning I did a 'tail -f /var/log/maillog' and found tons of bounce
messages going out and the following messages about incoming mail:

Jun  7 09:57:54 midnightsun qmail: 991925874.483380 starting delivery 434:
msg 2
77962 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jun  7 09:57:54 midnightsun qmail: 991925874.490779 status: local 0/10
remote 1/
20
Jun  7 09:57:54 midnightsun qmail: 991925874.510962 delivery 434: failure:
Sorry
_Although_I'm_listed_as_a_best-preference_MX_or_A_for_that_host,/it_isn't_in
_my
_control/locals_file,_so_I_don't_treat_it_as_local._(#5.4.6)/

I cehecked control/locals and found my main server,
'midnightsun.chismtrail.com' so I added just plain 'chismtrail.com' in case
that might be the problem, even though it has been working like that just
fine in the past.  It did not help.  Now I am getting the following
messages:


Jun  7 10:14:54 midnightsun qmail: 991926894.296843 starting delivery 35:
msg 27
7963 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jun  7 10:14:54 midnightsun qmail: 991926894.306096 status: local 1/10
remote 0/
20
Jun  7 10:14:54 midnightsun qmail: 991926894.338870 delivery 35: deferral:
Unabl
e_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/

and

Jun  7 10:16:35 midnightsun qmail: 991926995.777267 delivery 38: failure:
This_m
essage_is_looping:_it_already_has_my_Delivered-To_line._(#5.4.6)/

and

Jun  7 10:35:46 midnightsun qmail: 991928146.945873 starting delivery 70:
msg 27
7962 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jun  7 10:35:46 midnightsun qmail: 991928146.955071 status: local 1/10
remote 0/
20
Jun  7 10:35:46 midnightsun qmail: 991928146.987598 delivery 70: failure:
Sorry,
_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/


There is a [EMAIL PROTECTED], in

/usr/var/vpopmail/users

qmail-default  .qmail-igy  .qmail-walter   .qmail-wvchism9 postmaster
qmail-gin  .qmail-root .qmail-wdchism  abc walt
qmail-iggy .qmail-swap .qmail-wlat guest   webmaster


Where else can I look to find the problem?




Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-07 Thread Mermaid140

In a message dated 6/7/01 12:55:37 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
  From this information, and the information you've provided below, it
  looks to me that you probably did something like this:
  
  echo example.com:example.com  /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
  
What I actually did was:

echo www.garnette.com:alias-garnette /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~alias/.qmail-garnette-monte
echo garnette.com /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts


  it appears that chismtrail.com was a virtual domain,
 and should never have been in 'locals'. Add it back to virtualdomains,
 and put 'locals' back the way it was.

midnightsun.chismtrail.com is our server.  chismtrail.com was in rcpthosts.  
I have taken it back out of locals and left it in rcpthosts.

I did another test.  It is no longer giving the 'looping message, but is 
still not getting through.  Here is the error message:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sorry. Although I'm listed as a best-preference MX or A for that host,
it isn't in my control/locals file, so I don't treat it as local. (#5.4.6)



Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-07 Thread Mermaid140

In a message dated 6/7/01 1:30:31 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Make sure you check in /var/qmail/users/assign and make sure that is
  pointing to the correct place for your virtual domains and check that the
  uid/gid is correct.

This is in /var/qmail/users/assign (and I am such a newbie that I have no 
idea if that is right!):

+cmarc.com-:cmarc.com:142:142:/var/vpopmail/domains/cmarc.com:-::
+chismtrail.com-:chismtrail.com:142:142:/var/vpopmail/users:-:: 



Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-07 Thread Mermaid140

In a message dated 6/7/01 3:27:10 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thought so -- you overwrote virtualdomains, and chismtrail.com was in
  there. ;) Got a copy of the original (backups, etc.)?

That was it!  Thank you so much.  I don't have a copy, but think I can 
rebuild now that I know what I did!



RE: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-07 Thread Virginia Chism

And now, just to add fat to the fire, my boss cannot access his email.  I'll
deal with that tomorrow. -- Scarlett O'Hara





RE: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-07 Thread Virginia Chism

None of my alias addresses work.  I guess I need to put all the domains back
in virtual.  I know I can do it through the 'echo
eachdomain.com:domain.com  \ /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains' route.
Would it be equally effective just to go into virtualdomains and edit the
file?


  
Doesn't chismtrail.com need to go back in virtualdomains?
  
echo chismtrail.com:chismtrail.com  \
 /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
 
  I'll try that.  I guess I need to restart qmail after the change?

 ISTR that a restart is required for virtualdomains, yes. I would have
 done it anyway, unless it's one that I know is read every time, like
 badmailfrom, etc.

 --
 Greg White





Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-07 Thread Chris Johnson

On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 02:40:31PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 6/7/01 12:55:37 PM Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
   From this information, and the information you've provided below, it
   looks to me that you probably did something like this:
   
   echo example.com:example.com  /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
   
 What I actually did was:
 
 echo www.garnette.com:alias-garnette /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
 echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~alias/.qmail-garnette-monte
 echo garnette.com /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts

It sounds like you didn't send qmail-send a SIGHUP. You need to do that to get
it to reread virtualdomains.

Chris



Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-07 Thread Mermaid140

Should I chown the top four to alias?  Three of them have worked in the past, 
but garnette has not worked at all.  And, should I do anything about the 
-rw-r--r--?

-rw-r--r--  1 root   qmail   11 Apr 20 14:01 .qmail-evergreenequikits-info
-rw-r--r--  1 root   qmail   19 May 22 13:49 .qmail-fiskrri-info
-rw-r--r--  1 root   qmail   18 Jun  6 16:21 .qmail-garnette-monte
-rw-r--r--  1 root   qmail   26 Apr 24 11:16 .qmail-lechapeauonline-info
-rw---  1 alias  qmail   11 May 25  1999 .qmail-mailer-daemon
-rw---  1 alias  qmail   11 May 25  1999 .qmail-postmaster
-rw---  1 alias  qmail   11 May 25  1999 .qmail-root
-rw---  1 alias  qmail   26 Sep 29  2000 .qmail-webmaster
drwx--  5 alias  qmail  512 May 25  1999 Maildir   

This is how they are listed in /var/vpopmail/users

-rw---  1 vpopmail  vpopmail   71 May 26  1999 .qmail-default
-rw---  1 vpopmail  vpopmail   26 Jun 30  1999 .qmail-gin
-rw---  1 vpopmail  vpopmail   26 Jun 30  1999 .qmail-iggy
-rw---  1 vpopmail  vpopmail   26 Jun 30  1999 .qmail-igy
-rw---  1 vpopmail  vpopmail   26 Sep 29  2000 .qmail-root
-rw---  1 vpopmail  vpopmail   26 May 26  1999 .qmail-swap
-rw-r--r--  1 root  vpopmail   21 May  9 09:31 .qmail-walter
-rw-r--r--  1 root  vpopmail   21 May  9 09:32 .qmail-wdchism
-rw-r--r--  1 root  vpopmail   21 May  9 09:30 .qmail-wlat
-rw---  1 vpopmail  vpopmail   21 May 26  1999 .qmail-wvchism9
drwx--  3 vpopmail  vpopmail  512 May 26  1999 abc
drwx--  3 vpopmail  vpopmail  512 Aug 26  1999 guest
drwx--  3 vpopmail  vpopmail  512 May 26  1999 postmaster
drwx--  3 vpopmail  vpopmail  512 May 26  1999 walt
drwx--  3 vpopmail  vpopmail  512 May 26  1999 webmaster 





Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-07 Thread Greg White

On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 04:28:38PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 6/7/01 3:18:07 PM Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
   Doesn't chismtrail.com need to go back in virtualdomains?
   
   echo chismtrail.com:chismtrail.com  \
/var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
 
 I'll try that.  I guess I need to restart qmail after the change?

ISTR that a restart is required for virtualdomains, yes. I would have
done it anyway, unless it's one that I know is read every time, like
badmailfrom, etc.

-- 
Greg White



Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-07 Thread Greg White

On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 02:41:11PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 6/7/01 1:30:31 PM Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Make sure you check in /var/qmail/users/assign and make sure that is
   pointing to the correct place for your virtual domains and check that the
   uid/gid is correct.
 
 This is in /var/qmail/users/assign (and I am such a newbie that I have no 
 idea if that is right!):
 
 +cmarc.com-:cmarc.com:142:142:/var/vpopmail/domains/cmarc.com:-::
 +chismtrail.com-:chismtrail.com:142:142:/var/vpopmail/users:-:: 

Doesn't chismtrail.com need to go back in virtualdomains?

echo chismtrail.com:chismtrail.com  \
/var/qmail/control/virtualdomains


-- 
Greg White
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
revolution inevitable.
-- John F. Kennedy



Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-07 Thread Mermaid140

In a message dated 6/7/01 3:18:07 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
  Doesn't chismtrail.com need to go back in virtualdomains?
  
  echo chismtrail.com:chismtrail.com  \
   /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains

I'll try that.  I guess I need to restart qmail after the change?



Re: suddenly cannot receive email

2001-06-07 Thread Greg White

On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 04:52:41PM -0400, Chris Johnson wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 02:40:31PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In a message dated 6/7/01 12:55:37 PM Central Daylight Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   
From this information, and the information you've provided below, it
looks to me that you probably did something like this:

echo example.com:example.com  /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains

  What I actually did was:
  
  echo www.garnette.com:alias-garnette /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
  echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~alias/.qmail-garnette-monte
  echo garnette.com /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
 
 It sounds like you didn't send qmail-send a SIGHUP. You need to do that to get
 it to reread virtualdomains.

Just to be clear, for the sake of the archives, problem was that the
'main' domain for the box, chismtrail.com, was _already in
virtualdomains_ when then above single redirection was issued. IMHO
everyone should get in the habit of triple-checking single redirects, or
change their mental default to append, a double redirect. You only need
to get burned by this type of thing once to be paranoid for life. 

Speaking as a man with some very old scars of this variety,

-- 
Greg White