Rejected Messages!!
I am getting the following message: Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: test test (Mailbox or Conference is full.) after something is posted on qmail list. Are others getting the same message?? Kirti
Re: Rejected Messages!!
Kirti S. Bajwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am getting the following message: Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: test test (Mailbox or Conference is full.) after something is posted on qmail list. Are others getting the same message?? There are various people subscribed to the qmail mailing list or a sublist thereof, and whose accounts reside on horribly broken mail servers. These servers notice a problem like the above, and then generate a bounce -- unfortunately, they violate RFC2821 in doing so, because they send the bounce to the address in the From: header (i.e., you) instead of the envelope sender (i.e. ezmlm on list.cr.yp.to). I suggest you do what I do: 1. After this happens the first time, send an email message to postmaster at the offending domain. Explain the problem, and why they should fix it. 2. If they make good-faith efforts to resolve the problem, stop here. 3. If postmaster@domain bounces, or the postmaster refuses to consider the possibility that they are causing problems for the net at large, refuse SMTP connections from that host. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: Rejected Messages!!
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 08:24:52AM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote: Kirti S. Bajwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am getting the following message: Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: test test (Mailbox or Conference is full.) after something is posted on qmail list. Are others getting the same message?? There are various people subscribed to the qmail mailing list or a sublist thereof, and whose accounts reside on horribly broken mail servers. These servers notice a problem like the above, and then generate a bounce -- unfortunately, they violate RFC2821 in doing so, because they send the bounce to the address in the From: header (i.e., you) instead of the envelope sender (i.e. ezmlm on list.cr.yp.to). I suggest you do what I do: 1. After this happens the first time, send an email message to postmaster at the offending domain. Explain the problem, and why they should fix it. Kirti, Charles, and the rest of the list -- I have already done this. postmaster bounces in this case. root may also bounce, but I sent one after adding him to badmailfrom. ;) 2. If they make good-faith efforts to resolve the problem, stop here. See above. 3. If postmaster@domain bounces, or the postmaster refuses to consider the possibility that they are causing problems for the net at large, refuse SMTP connections from that host. Problem is, it's not his SMTP, it's list.cr.yp.to -- is it worth notifying [EMAIL PROTECTED]? (I suspect that Dan already knows...) This is not the first time that this domain has had this problem -- postmaster has bounced for a long time... -- Greg White
Re: Rejected Messages!!
Greg White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. If postmaster@domain bounces, or the postmaster refuses to consider the possibility that they are causing problems for the net at large, refuse SMTP connections from that host. Problem is, it's not his SMTP, it's list.cr.yp.to -- is it worth notifying [EMAIL PROTECTED]? We're not talking about the same problem, then -- and I think you're mistaken. Autoresponders (including Could not deliver, mailbox is full type ones) reply to the envelope sender when they're correct, and to the contents of the From: header when they're horribly broken. For one to reply to the list address, they'd have to be sending notifications to the envelope recipient, which makes no sense. If you still think this is the case, post complete headers of one of these messages you're receiving. You may be seeing a totally different problem. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: Rejected Messages!!
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 09:32:43AM -0700, Greg White wrote: Problem is, it's not his SMTP, it's list.cr.yp.to -- is it worth notifying [EMAIL PROTECTED]? (I suspect that Dan already knows...) This is not the first time that this domain has had this problem -- postmaster has bounced for a long time.. Next time, Greg will read headers more carefully before talking out his butt. Sorry, all, obviously brain dead today. Bounces are from the host in question. Never had to black hole a host like this, but I will now GW