Re: [qmailadmin] rebuilding templates as XHTML
Hi Tom Matt Bower (XHTML propeller-head) has completed a full rebuild of the templates, and Beau Smith (CSS super-geek) has built a new simplistic design. However we couldn't get as far as we wanted because so much of the interface was hard-coded into the C source. The next step is to update the HTML in the source to XHTML and make some other small modifications to improve the modularity of the generated HTML. Beau will be emailing you off-list to show you what is done so far and to discuss going forward with the C source mods. (This will include rhetoric such as should we alienate users who have built custom templates for pre-1.2.11 releases?) I'll call a meeting with these boys and push the schedule forward. Yours, Quinn On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:10:20 -0800, Tom Collins wrote: Quinn, How is this project going? I ask because Mike Wright just asked about the redesign someone else did a few years back.
Re: [qmailadmin] rebuilding templates as XHTML
Quinn Comendant wrote: Hi Tom snip Beau will be emailing you off-list to show you what is done so far and to discuss going forward with the C source mods. (This will include rhetoric such as should we alienate users who have built custom templates for pre-1.2.11 releases.) May I suggest moving this discussion to the qmailadmin-devel list on SourceForge. There is at least one other qmail admin developer who is interested in this project... http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=34241 Rick
RE: [qmailadmin] rebuilding templates as XHTML
Then, please keep us informed here at this list, when a release candidate or beta version of the new templates will be public. Thanks for all, and good luck! With kindly regards, Hans van Eijsden Marnet Internet, The Netherlands -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Rick Widmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: zaterdag 2 december 2006 0:27 Aan: qmailadmin@inter7.com Onderwerp: Re: [qmailadmin] rebuilding templates as XHTML Quinn Comendant wrote: Hi Tom snip Beau will be emailing you off-list to show you what is done so far and to discuss going forward with the C source mods. (This will include rhetoric such as should we alienate users who have built custom templates for pre-1.2.11 releases.) May I suggest moving this discussion to the qmailadmin-devel list on SourceForge. There is at least one other qmail admin developer who is interested in this project... http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=34241 Rick
Re: [qmailadmin] rebuilding templates as XHTML
Hi Tom Matt Bower (XHTML propeller-head) has completed a full rebuild of the templates, and Beau Smith (CSS super-geek) has built a new simplistic design. However we couldn't get as far as we wanted because so much of the interface was hard-coded into the C source. The next step is to update the HTML in the source to XHTML and make some other small modifications to improve the modularity of the generated HTML. Beau will be emailing you off-list to show you what is done so far and to discuss going forward with the C source mods. (This will include rhetoric such as should we alienate users who have built custom templates for pre-1.2.11 releases.) I'll call a meeting with these boys and push the schedule forward. Yours, Quinn On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:10:20 -0800, Tom Collins wrote: Quinn, How is this project going? I ask because Mike Wright just asked about the redesign someone else did a few years back.
Re: [qmailadmin] rebuilding templates as XHTML
On Oct 24, 2006, at 4:52 PM, Quinn Comendant wrote: I've spoken with Tom Collins who is going to help integrate our XHTML/CSS work back into the project. We'll be rebuilding the HTML in the templates and in the C code (although leaving the HTML in the C for now), and building a new interface and design using CSS. We're mostly done with the work now, and will be submitting it back to the project in the next two weeks. It will probably be released as a 1.2.12 devel version soon thereafter. The design we provide will just be clean and minimalist that will be easy to extend. It will be built such that the whole system can be redesigned by just swapping a single CSS file. I suspect after conversion to XHTML/CSS others will be contributing additional CSS designs to the project. Quinn, How is this project going? I ask because Mike Wright just asked about the redesign someone else did a few years back. -- Tom Collins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vpopmail - virtual domains for qmail: http://vpopmail.sf.net/ QmailAdmin - web interface for Vpopmail: http://qmailadmin.sf.net/
Re: [qmailadmin] rebuilding templates as XHTML
Hi Mike I've spoken with Tom Collins who is going to help integrate our XHTML/CSS work back into the project. We'll be rebuilding the HTML in the templates and in the C code (although leaving the HTML in the C for now), and building a new interface and design using CSS. We're mostly done with the work now, and will be submitting it back to the project in the next two weeks. It will probably be released as a 1.2.12 devel version soon thereafter. The design we provide will just be clean and minimalist that will be easy to extend. It will be built such that the whole system can be redesigned by just swapping a single CSS file. I suspect after conversion to XHTML/CSS others will be contributing additional CSS designs to the project. Quinn On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:16:16 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: Quinn Comendant wrote: Dear Inter7 developers and list friends I've hired a XHTML/CSS pro to rebuild the QmailAdmin templates in valid XHTML code that can easily be styled with CSS. This work will be finished in two weeks. I'm happy to contribute this work back to the project and/or to any list members who would find it useful. However there are several portions of HTML that are generated by the C code (several tables of list data, specifically) that would not be part of my rebuild. A request from the Inter7 dev'ers: Would you mind rewriting the HTML generating portions in the C code so that it outputs valid HTML? Or accepting patches from me to apply to the source distribution? The change would be valid for XHTML but also for the 4.01 Transitional that the QmailAdmin currently uses, so it wouldn't hurt to do it even if the old templates are retained. The following needs to be done: 1. Lowercase all tags and attributes 2. Strip all deprecated code (attributes and tags) 3. Quote all tag attributes values 4. Make sure all tags are closed properly and all empty tags are closed correctly Hi Quinn, I haven't noticed any responses to your request, but I, for one, would very much like to have a version that had been xhtml'd and css'd, and preferably one that did not use tables for layout. I'm pretty comfy with xhtml/css and might be able to help on specific tasks when time is available. I've looked through the templates and they are not that daunting and, though not a c programmer, can find and hack existing code. Looking forward to hearing from you. Please reply on-list; this email address is a throw-away. Thanks, Mike Wright
Re: [qmailadmin] rebuilding templates as XHTML
Quinn Comendant wrote: Dear Inter7 developers and list friends I've hired a XHTML/CSS pro to rebuild the QmailAdmin templates in valid XHTML code that can easily be styled with CSS. This work will be finished in two weeks. I'm happy to contribute this work back to the project and/or to any list members who would find it useful. However there are several portions of HTML that are generated by the C code (several tables of list data, specifically) that would not be part of my rebuild. A request from the Inter7 dev'ers: Would you mind rewriting the HTML generating portions in the C code so that it outputs valid HTML? Or accepting patches from me to apply to the source distribution? The change would be valid for XHTML but also for the 4.01 Transitional that the QmailAdmin currently uses, so it wouldn't hurt to do it even if the old templates are retained. The following needs to be done: 1. Lowercase all tags and attributes 2. Strip all deprecated code (attributes and tags) 3. Quote all tag attributes values 4. Make sure all tags are closed properly and all empty tags are closed correctly Hi Quinn, I haven't noticed any responses to your request, but I, for one, would very much like to have a version that had been xhtml'd and css'd, and preferably one that did not use tables for layout. I'm pretty comfy with xhtml/css and might be able to help on specific tasks when time is available. I've looked through the templates and they are not that daunting and, though not a c programmer, can find and hack existing code. Looking forward to hearing from you. Please reply on-list; this email address is a throw-away. Thanks, Mike Wright
[qmailadmin] rebuilding templates as XHTML
Dear Inter7 developers and list friends I've hired a XHTML/CSS pro to rebuild the QmailAdmin templates in valid XHTML code that can easily be styled with CSS. This work will be finished in two weeks. I'm happy to contribute this work back to the project and/or to any list members who would find it useful. However there are several portions of HTML that are generated by the C code (several tables of list data, specifically) that would not be part of my rebuild. A request from the Inter7 dev'ers: Would you mind rewriting the HTML generating portions in the C code so that it outputs valid HTML? Or accepting patches from me to apply to the source distribution? The change would be valid for XHTML but also for the 4.01 Transitional that the QmailAdmin currently uses, so it wouldn't hurt to do it even if the old templates are retained. The following needs to be done: 1. Lowercase all tags and attributes 2. Strip all deprecated code (attributes and tags) 3. Quote all tag attributes values 4. Make sure all tags are closed properly and all empty tags are closed correctly Thanks, Quinn
