[qmailtoaster] SPF - Yahoo Bulk - Hotmail Junk
HI, WE MADE TEST AT: http://www.dnsstuff.com/pages/spf.htm WE GOT A RESULT LIKE: SPF lookup of sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] from IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: SPF string used: v=spf1 a mx. Processing SPF string: v=spf1 a mx. Testing 'a' on IP=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, target domain x.net, CIDR 32, default=PASS. MATCH! Testing 'mx' on IP=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, target domain x.net, CIDR 32, default=PASS. Result: PASS --- When we send to Yahoo, they take our emails to Bulk and also Hotmail puts to Junk. I use Yahoo for Qmail-Toaster-List and for couple days i see ALL Toaster mails in Bulk. Is our SPF record wrong or must we change something? Thanks to God and to you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] Authentication error
Hi,I've installed qmail toaster on Fedora Core 5.Everything is fine but after a while the email system is started, IMAP authentication fails.If I do a qmailctl restart everything is going to work right again. Help on this would be great.Installed packages:--- cut here ---# rpm -qa | grep toastervpopmail-toaster-5.4.13-1.3.1courier-authlib-toaster-0.58-1.3.1maildrop-toaster-2.0.2-1.3.1 isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.1qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.9-1.3.1qmail-pop3d-toaster-1.03-1.3.3ezmlm-cgi-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.1qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.3autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.1courier-imap-toaster-4.1.1-1.3.2 send-emails-toaster-0.5-1.3.1ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.1libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.1vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.3.1ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.1clamav-toaster-0.88.2-1.3.1control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.1 daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.1maildrop-toaster-devel-2.0.2-1.3.1--- cut here ---
Re: [qmailtoaster] SPF - Yahoo Bulk - Hotmail Junk
Thank you all but it is not solved. I made a Reverse DNS lookup at dnsstuff.com, got answer like at bottom of page: --- Answer: 206.225.82.xxx PTR record: 206-225-82-xxx.dedicated.abac.net. [TTL 43200s] [A=206.225.82.xxx] To see the reverse DNS traversal, to make sure that all DNS servers are reporting the correct results, you can Click Here. --- After click for the next page, i got the result: --- Getting NS record list at f.root-servers.net... Done! Looking up at the 0 206.in-addr.arpa. parent server: ... Status: Records all match. Looking up at the 0 82.225.206.in-addr.arpa. parent server: ... Status: Records all match. --- I may provide more info but an interesting point is: Also the below 2 emails on this topic sent to qmail-toaster-list put to Bulk in my Yahoo mailbox. If i have something missed, but it seems you have the same problem? Thank you... --- Supriyo Banerjee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If reverse DNS records for the sending domain/mail server do not exist, Yahoo puts e-mails originating from such domains to Bulk folders. Notsure about Hotmail though, may be they do the same. Supriyo Erik Espinoza wrote: I'm not sure whats going on with Hotmail, but Yahoo doesn't even check for SPF. They check for domainkeys. Erik On 7/4/06, bb. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, WE MADE TEST AT: http://www.dnsstuff.com/pages/spf.htm WE GOT A RESULT LIKE: SPF lookup of sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] from IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: SPF string used: v=spf1 a mx. Processing SPF string: v=spf1 a mx. Testing 'a' on IP=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, target domain x.net, CIDR 32, default=PASS. MATCH! Testing 'mx' on IP=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, target domain x.net, CIDR 32, default=PASS. Result: PASS --- When we send to Yahoo, they take our emails to Bulk and also Hotmail puts to Junk. I use Yahoo for Qmail-Toaster-List and for couple days i see ALL Toaster mails in Bulk. Is our SPF record wrong or must we change something? Thanks to God and to you. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] isoqlog or similar program to monitor mail details?
Hi list,I like the output of isoqlog in the admin-toaster page. However, I also wish to see into details such as the mails sent by an user on a day, to which addresses, their sizes, etc. Is there an option in isoqlog that can enable this? Or is there another monitoring tool? Thanks.Best regards,Peter Wu
Re: [qmailtoaster] Authentication error
Please check http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg05239.html Best regards, Johannes João Sá schrieb: Hi, I've installed qmail toaster on Fedora Core 5. Everything is fine but after a while the email system is started, IMAP authentication fails. If I do a qmailctl restart everything is going to work right again. Help on this would be great. Installed packages: --- cut here --- # rpm -qa | grep toaster vpopmail-toaster-5.4.13-1.3.1 courier-authlib-toaster-0.58-1.3.1 maildrop-toaster-2.0.2-1.3.1 isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.1 qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.9-1.3.1 qmail-pop3d-toaster-1.03-1.3.3 ezmlm-cgi-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.1 qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.3 autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.1 courier-imap-toaster-4.1.1-1.3.2 send-emails-toaster-0.5-1.3.1 ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.1 libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.1 vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.3.1 ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.1 clamav-toaster-0.88.2-1.3.1 control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.1 daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.1 maildrop-toaster-devel-2.0.2-1.3.1 --- cut here --- -- |- | weberhofer GmbH | Johannes Weberhofer | information technologies, Austria | | phone : +43 (0)1 5454421 0| email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | fax : +43 (0)1 5454421 19 | web : http://weberhofer.at | mobile: +43 (0)699 11998315 |--- - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] Block extensions wich ssattach ?
Title: Domainkey on bind How I do to block messages which extensions .mp3 , .jpg .. I´m using the following - /var/qmail/control/ssattach Not is bloking the messages .. Help me please ... Rodrigo
[qmailtoaster] simscan received mails exceptions for ssattach rules
Olá List, As to create a rule an email to be able to receive all attachs from example hotmail.com I need to create a exception for the rule of simscan, oneautorized mail to send and receive all extensions. and others emails pass to ssattach filter it is possible? to send mails a create this rule on /etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp and it´s work, my problem is on received mails. simscan block all attachson all acounts, i need a exception for this rule. 192.168.2.19:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/simscan"
Re: [qmailtoaster] whitelist_from_rcvd
K Anand wrote: Hi all, I want to add an entry for qmt list into my whitelist..I want to add a whitelist_from_rcvd.. Here are the headers from a post. What should the entry be ? whitelist_from_rcvd qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com ns1.qmailtoaster.com You're trying to add the list as a whitelist in SpamAssassin? This is what the entry in your /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf should look like: whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED] And that's it. Not sure what you're trying to do with the ns1.qmailtoaster.com entry. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] SPF - Yahoo Bulk - Hotmail Junk
bb. wrote: Thank you all but it is not solved. I made a Reverse DNS lookup at dnsstuff.com, got answer like at bottom of page: --- Answer: 206.225.82.xxx PTR record: 206-225-82-xxx.dedicated.abac.net. [TTL 43200s] [A=206.225.82.xxx] To see the reverse DNS traversal, to make sure that all DNS servers are reporting the correct results, you can Click Here. If you have a valid reverse DNS, SPF record, and domainkeys record then you will need to contact the admins at Yahoo and Hotmail to see why they are blocking the messages. You may be able to glean some more info from the headers of the messages sent to the Bulk folder (they may be failing some rule over there, which SHOULD be in the header). Otherwise, we can only guess at how they're running their servers, unless someone here has already encountered this problem and solved it. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] isoqlog or similar program to monitor mail details?
Yi-Lei Wu wrote: Hi list, I like the output of isoqlog in the admin-toaster page. However, I also wish to see into details such as the mails sent by an user on a day, to which addresses, their sizes, etc. Is there an option in isoqlog that can enable this? Or is there another monitoring tool? Nobody has written one yet. You can get the info from the logs (some of it), and that's about the best that can be done to date as far as I know. cat current | grep [EMAIL PROTECTED] Will show you the messages by a specific user for the timeframe. If you look at the smtp logs, that will be what they received. Look at the send logs for what they have sent. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uggh. I've been running an install of qmailtoaster testing it and what not. Everything has been great. Our servers all have a naming scheme so I just changed the hostname from localhost.localdomain to mail.ourdomain.com. After doing that pop3 sessions no longer work. IMAP is able to connect fine but pop3 just continues to fail. If I attempt to connect to localhost on 110 I get the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] control]# telnet localhost 110 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1). Escape character is '^]'. +OK 2082.1152112815@/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw user [EMAIL PROTECTED] +OK pass 123123123 -ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir -ERR unable to write pipe Connection closed by foreign host. If I reset the password it does nothing. I can login via webmail just fine. I am lost and not sure what needs to be changed. Changing the hostname back isn't an option for me. Any help would be great. I have checked through all my files in /var/qmail/control. I updated the locals file to add the new domain, however the defauldomain file and defaulthost files are empty. Is that normal? Default domain should be your IP address (if you're using virtualhosts), and defaulthost should be your IP as well. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir
Ok I update those 2 files and still no go. The me file is also empty. Should I add the ip address in there as well? Quoting Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uggh. I've been running an install of qmailtoaster testing it and what not. Everything has been great. Our servers all have a naming scheme so I just changed the hostname from localhost.localdomain to mail.ourdomain.com. After doing that pop3 sessions no longer work. IMAP is able to connect fine but pop3 just continues to fail. If I attempt to connect to localhost on 110 I get the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] control]# telnet localhost 110 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1). Escape character is '^]'. +OK 2082.1152112815@/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw user [EMAIL PROTECTED] +OK pass 123123123 -ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir -ERR unable to write pipe Connection closed by foreign host. If I reset the password it does nothing. I can login via webmail just fine. I am lost and not sure what needs to be changed. Changing the hostname back isn't an option for me. Any help would be great. I have checked through all my files in /var/qmail/control. I updated the locals file to add the new domain, however the defauldomain file and defaulthost files are empty. Is that normal? Default domain should be your IP address (if you're using virtualhosts), and defaulthost should be your IP as well. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] SOLVED- Re: [qmailtoaster] simscan received mails exceptions for ssattach rules
I using --enable-per-domain=y \ to solve my problem. I have a recompiled the simscan. in simscan spec file add "y" --enable-per-domain=y \ and recompile and reinstall the rpm on /var/qmail/control create the simcontrol fileand add this to file[EMAIL PROTECTED]:clam=yes,attach=.txt:.com:.avi:.mp3and run this /var/qmail/bin/simscanmk to rebuild simcontrol fileand delete my ssattch itïs not necessary for me it´s control attachs per user to receiv and to send thank´s - Original Message - From: Diego Pivetta To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:15 AM Subject: [qmailtoaster] simscan received mails exceptions for ssattach rules Olá List, As to create a rule an email to be able to receive all attachs from example hotmail.com I need to create a exception for the rule of simscan, oneautorized mail to send and receive all extensions. and others emails pass to ssattach filter it is possible? to send mails a create this rule on /etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp and it´s work, my problem is on received mails. simscan block all attachson all acounts, i need a exception for this rule. 192.168.2.19:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/simscan" No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 28/6/2006
Re: [qmailtoaster] ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok I update those 2 files and still no go. The me file is also empty. Should I add the ip address in there as well? Me should be your IP address as well. http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Files_and_Explanations#Configuration_Files - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] qmailadmin
Hello, after i updated my erro free running qmailtoaster to the last stable verion i got a mistake i can not follow. After i logged in the qmailadmin and choose one of the four domains everythink is fine and i got the whole items and config buttons. If i choose one of the other domains or create a new on, i am not able to see one of the buttons. no create pop account or forward button aso. The only thing to choose is the email field to choose one of the account in this domain. also these field works fine. Any hints or ideas ? Thanx -- meteomedia gmbh Christian - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] i need to recibe a mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] how can i do? Need help!!!
There is somthing that i need to do, i need to have a user without domain, but they could be see his mails, in the squirrelmail, is that posible? Thanks for your help __Correo Yahoo!Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com/
Re: [qmailtoaster] SPF - Yahoo Bulk - Hotmail Junk
I think his issue is that he doesn't have a domainkeys record. Yahoo requires it nowadays to let mail through. Harry On Jul 5, 2006, at 10:42 PM, Jake Vickers wrote: bb. wrote: Thank you all but it is not solved. I made a Reverse DNS lookup at dnsstuff.com, got answer like at bottom of page: --- Answer: 206.225.82.xxx PTR record: 206-225-82-xxx.dedicated.abac.net. [TTL 43200s] [A=206.225.82.xxx] To see the reverse DNS traversal, to make sure that all DNS servers are reporting the correct results, you can Click Here. If you have a valid reverse DNS, SPF record, and domainkeys record then you will need to contact the admins at Yahoo and Hotmail to see why they are blocking the messages. You may be able to glean some more info from the headers of the messages sent to the Bulk folder (they may be failing some rule over there, which SHOULD be in the header). Otherwise, we can only guess at how they're running their servers, unless someone here has already encountered this problem and solved it. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Antoine De Saint-Exupery True happiness comes from the joy of deeds well done, the zest of creating things new. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] Connection issues and question regarding qmail log files.
I get timeout errors in outlook to my mail server regularly I was wondering if anyone else has gotten similar errors and if theres something that can be done to resolve it. I use IMAP the error is A timeout occurred while communicating with mail.domain.net. The connection has been closed. Additionally I was curious about how qmail formats its logs my smtp log is prefixed with lines similar to this @400044ac8e6d2406bd7c on almost every line (although they are unique). Is there any information in regards to this formatting does it it mean anything? Is there anyway the logs can be formatted in a standard date/time if not how can one go back and find specific instances that happened in previous days if there is no date/time listed in the logs? Maybe Im missing something there, I welcome any insight in regards to these issues though. Thanks guys, Jon
SV: [qmailtoaster] Connection issues and question regarding qmail log files.
What you have found is the tai64 timestamp. cat /var/log/qmail/send/current | tai64nlocal There are several tools that can be used to convert these records to common log format. google +qmail +log +common +log +format Från: Jon M. Ernster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skickat: den 6 juli 2006 06:33Till: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.comÄmne: [qmailtoaster] Connection issues and question regarding qmail log files. I get timeout errors in outlook to my mail server regularly I was wondering if anyone else has gotten similar errors and if theres something that can be done to resolve it. I use IMAP the error is A timeout occurred while communicating with mail.domain.net. The connection has been closed. Additionally I was curious about how qmail formats its logs my smtp log is prefixed with lines similar to this @400044ac8e6d2406bd7c on almost every line (although they are unique). Is there any information in regards to this formatting does it it mean anything? Is there anyway the logs can be formatted in a standard date/time if not how can one go back and find specific instances that happened in previous days if there is no date/time listed in the logs? Maybe Im missing something there, I welcome any insight in regards to these issues though. Thanks guys, Jon smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
RE: [qmailtoaster] Connection issues and question regarding qmail log files.
Wow, fantastic. Thanks so much for the quick response on that Mattias. J From: Mattias Segerdahl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:41 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: SV: [qmailtoaster] Connection issues and question regarding qmail log files. What you have found is the tai64 timestamp. cat /var/log/qmail/send/current | tai64nlocal There are several tools that can be used to convert these records to common log format. google +qmail +log +common +log +format Från: Jon M. Ernster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skickat: den 6 juli 2006 06:33 Till: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Ämne: [qmailtoaster] Connection issues and question regarding qmail log files. I get timeout errors in outlook to my mail server regularly I was wondering if anyone else has gotten similar errors and if theres something that can be done to resolve it. I use IMAP the error is A timeout occurred while communicating with mail.domain.net. The connection has been closed. Additionally I was curious about how qmail formats its logs my smtp log is prefixed with lines similar to this @400044ac8e6d2406bd7c on almost every line (although they are unique). Is there any information in regards to this formatting does it it mean anything? Is there anyway the logs can be formatted in a standard date/time if not how can one go back and find specific instances that happened in previous days if there is no date/time listed in the logs? Maybe Im missing something there, I welcome any insight in regards to these issues though. Thanks guys, Jon
SV: [qmailtoaster] Connection issues and question regarding qmail log files.
No worries, that's what I'm here for, 6:30 in the morning *grin* Från: Jon M. Ernster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skickat: den 6 juli 2006 06:43Till: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.comÄmne: RE: [qmailtoaster] Connection issues and question regarding qmail log files. Wow, fantastic. Thanks so much for the quick response on that Mattias. J From: Mattias Segerdahl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:41 PMTo: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.comSubject: SV: [qmailtoaster] Connection issues and question regarding qmail log files. What you have found is the tai64 timestamp. cat /var/log/qmail/send/current | tai64nlocal There are several tools that can be used to convert these records to common log format. google +qmail +log +common +log +format Från: Jon M. Ernster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skickat: den 6 juli 2006 06:33Till: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.comÄmne: [qmailtoaster] Connection issues and question regarding qmail log files. I get timeout errors in outlook to my mail server regularly I was wondering if anyone else has gotten similar errors and if theres something that can be done to resolve it. I use IMAP the error is A timeout occurred while communicating with mail.domain.net. The connection has been closed. Additionally I was curious about how qmail formats its logs my smtp log is prefixed with lines similar to this @400044ac8e6d2406bd7c on almost every line (although they are unique). Is there any information in regards to this formatting does it it mean anything? Is there anyway the logs can be formatted in a standard date/time if not how can one go back and find specific instances that happened in previous days if there is no date/time listed in the logs? Maybe Im missing something there, I welcome any insight in regards to these issues though. Thanks guys, Jon smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [qmailtoaster] isoqlog or similar program to monitor mail details?
Hi Jake,Thanks~ I wonder if the commercial software Sawmill can do it...Best regards,Peter WuOn 7/5/06, Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yi-Lei Wu wrote: Hi list, I like the output of isoqlog in the admin-toaster page. However, I also wish to see into details such as the mails sent by an user on a day, to which addresses, their sizes, etc. Is there an option in isoqlog that can enable this? Or is there another monitoring tool? Nobody has written one yet. You can get the info from the logs (some ofit), and that's about the best that can be done to date as far as I know.cat current | grep [EMAIL PROTECTED]Will show you the messages by a specific user for the timeframe. If youlook at the smtp logs, that will be what they received. Look at the sendlogs for what they have sent. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
