[qmailtoaster] Backup and restore script
Hello, is there another source where I can get the backup and restore scripts from the wiki-site. The links on v2gnu.com are broken. Thomas - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] maildrop howto?
On 12/12/06, Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You only need to rebuild qmailadmin with the --define 'spambox 1' it adds those confugure options : --enable-modify-spam \ --enable-spam-command=|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter \ When you create an account and check the spambox , it will generate a .qmail file in your account Maildir folder with at least this line : |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter you may have more rules if you added an forward or vacancy ... Thanks for clearing things out. One final question: I thought that nowadays qmailtoaster stored the information that used to be in .qmail in database -- am I mistaken here? Regards, Peter - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] SpamAssassin cpu usage
Hi: AFAIK you can always use ulimit (http://www.ss64.com/bash/ulimit.html) or softlimit (http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/softlimit.html) for CPU time used. Using it as a filter: For example: In /var/qmail/supervise/spamd/run From: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/bin/spamd -x -u vpopmail -s stderr 21 To: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/bin/softlimit [YOURSOFTLIMITOPTIONS] /usr/bin/spamd -x -u vpopmail -s stderr 21 Cheers. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | David Sanchez Martin | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrador de Sistemas| http://www.e2000.es http://www.e2000.es/ E2000 Nuevas Tecnologias | | E2000 Organizacion de Empresarios|Tel : +34 902 19 61 77 Mediadores de Seguros | | Agustin Bravo Esquina Calle C| 33120 Pravia Asturias Spain | | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* _ De: Shelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: jueves, 14 de diciembre de 2006 7:10 Para: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Asunto: Re: [qmailtoaster] SpamAssassin cpu usage Yes, I did killall spam processes before restart, and no Im not using Pyzor. Is it possible to run spamd in daemon mode, and would that reduce how much CPU it uses? Thanks - Original Message From: Michael Amster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Thursday, 14 December, 2006 3:59:45 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] SpamAssassin cpu usage Did you stop spamd and then kill all the processes before starting up again? What does your rulesdujour look like? Do you have DCC, Pyzor or Razor enabled? I also found Pyzor to be a problem. -MA Shelly wrote: Hi Michael, I have just tried that one, however the spamd at 100% still continues. Is there anything else that would be able to throttle spamd to not use 100% cpu? - Original Message From: Michael Amster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Thursday, 14 December, 2006 1:24:59 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] SpamAssassin cpu usage What rulesets are you running? If you use rulesdujour, I have found that eliminating: * *BLACKLIST* a blacklist of spammers. * *BLACKLIST_URI* looks for these domains inside URL's in the message. These two rulesets are huge and can cause swapping on the server. I removed them from my rulesdujour and things became quite manageable. -MA Shelly wrote: Is there anyway to limit the amount of CPU spamassassin uses? Currently the spamd process is running at 100 percent, and it seems to be the cause of connections being dropped. concurrencyremote and concurrencyincoming are set to 500 connections - should I be looking anywhere else? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Sánchez Martín;David FN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ORG:E2000 Financial Investments, S.A.;Centro de Nuevas Tecnologías TITLE:Administrador de Sistemas TEL;WORK;VOICE:902196177 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;Agust=EDn Bravo 17 2=BA B=0D=0A33120 PRAVIA;Asturias;;;Espa=F1a LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Agust=EDn Bravo 17 2=BA B=0D=0A33120 PRAVIA=0D=0AAsturias=0D=0AEspa=F1a URL;WORK:http://www.e2000.es EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20060705T152542Z END:VCARD smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
[qmailtoaster] Spam Assassin bayes-filter on mailgateway
Hello, I'm using qmail toaster as a email gateway for our exchange server. Is it possible to train the bayes-filter on the qmailtoaster for the gateway domain. On the wiki is an description for domains stored an the qmailtoaster, but that dose not work for mailgateway-configuration. My first idea was to create a dummy domain on the toasterserver with spam and ham post-boxes. Then forward the spam and ham mails from the exchange server to this boxes and use the script from the wiki. But when I do it that way only the bayes-filter for the dummy domain are trained. Is it possible to use the spam and ham mails from the dummy domain to train the filter for the gateway domain or is there any other way to train the filter? By the way is the following right. When I configure spam_hits=12 in /var/qmail/control/simcontrol and in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf required_score 5 and rewrite_header Subject ***SPAM*** a mail that is coming in and has a score of 12 and more is rejected on the smtp connection and a mail with a score of 5 up to 11,9 will be handled by the required_score 5 and rewrite_header Subject rules from /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf. Thomas - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Backup and restore script
Jake is performing maintenance on his site, v2gnu.com. It should be up in a few days. Thanks, Erik On 12/14/06, Thomas Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, is there another source where I can get the backup and restore scripts from the wiki-site. The links on v2gnu.com are broken. Thomas - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] maildrop howto?
forwards are stored in the db The .qmail files still exist for individual accounts. On 12/14/06, Peter Peltonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/12/06, Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You only need to rebuild qmailadmin with the --define 'spambox 1' it adds those confugure options : --enable-modify-spam \ --enable-spam-command=|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter \ When you create an account and check the spambox , it will generate a .qmail file in your account Maildir folder with at least this line : |/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter you may have more rules if you added an forward or vacancy ... Thanks for clearing things out. One final question: I thought that nowadays qmailtoaster stored the information that used to be in .qmail in database -- am I mistaken here? Regards, Peter - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] SpamAssassin question
Is there a way/command to find out the total amount of spam 'tokens' that have been learned? I've been running qmailtoaster with SA for at least half a year and I don't really see any decrease in spam. I have a cronjob set up to autolearn spam and ham every night, but it seems that I am putting more spam that comes in untagged into the spam folders then what is actually being captured as spam and placed in the spam folders. Here's what my local.cf file looks like, I checked to make sure the bayes_auto_learn was enabled tonight, and it was. I'm skipping rbl checks by SA and am letting qmail do it, and I have quite a few lists in there (4 or 5 I think) ok_locales all skip_rbl_checks 1 required_hits 5 report_safe 0 rewrite_header Subject ***SPAM*** use_pyzor 1 use_auto_whitelist 1 use_bayes 1 use_bayes_rules 1 bayes_auto_learn 1 Thanks for your help. Jon
Re: [qmailtoaster] SpamAssassin cpu usage
Ok, running softlimit with a CPU time of 2 seconds has seen the CPU % max out at 67% now, which I can deal with. I will let it run and see if there are any adverse affects. On a side note, if the spamd process is limited to 2 seconds cpu time, and usually it would take more and have a higher % use, how does that work? Something musts be squeezed to fit into the 2 seconds? Thanks again - Original Message From: David Sánchez Martín [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Thursday, 14 December, 2006 7:46:21 PM Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] SpamAssassin cpu usage DIV { MARGIN:0px;} Hi: AFAIK you can always use ulimit (http://www.ss64.com/bash/ulimit.html) or softlimit (http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/softlimit.html) for CPU time used. Using it as a filter: For example: In /var/qmail/supervise/spamd/run From: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/bin/spamd -x -u vpopmail -s stderr 21 To: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/bin/softlimit [YOURSOFTLIMITOPTIONS] /usr/bin/spamd -x -u vpopmail -s stderr 21 Cheers. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | David Sanchez Martin | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrador de Sistemas | http://www.e2000.es E2000 Nuevas Tecnologias | | E2000 Organizacion de Empresarios|Tel : +34 902 19 61 77 Mediadores de Seguros | | Agustin Bravo Esquina Calle C | 33120 Pravia Asturias Spain | | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* De: Shelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: jueves, 14 de diciembre de 2006 7:10 Para: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Asunto: Re: [qmailtoaster] SpamAssassin cpu usage Yes, I did killall spam processes before restart, and no Im not using Pyzor. Is it possible to run spamd in daemon mode, and would that reduce how much CPU it uses? Thanks - Original Message From: Michael Amster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Thursday, 14 December, 2006 3:59:45 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] SpamAssassin cpu usage Did you stop spamd and then kill all the processes before starting up again? What does your rulesdujour look like? Do you have DCC, Pyzor or Razor enabled? I also found Pyzor to be a problem. -MA Shelly wrote: Hi Michael, I have just tried that one, however the spamd at 100% still continues. Is there anything else that would be able to throttle spamd to not use 100% cpu? - Original Message From: Michael Amster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Thursday, 14 December, 2006 1:24:59 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] SpamAssassin cpu usage What rulesets are you running? If you use rulesdujour, I have found that eliminating: * *BLACKLIST* a blacklist of spammers. * *BLACKLIST_URI* looks for these domains inside URL's in the message. These two rulesets are huge and can cause swapping on the server. I removed them from my rulesdujour and things became quite manageable. -MA Shelly wrote: Is there anyway to limit the amount of CPU spamassassin uses? Currently the spamd process is running at 100 percent, and it seems to be the cause of connections being dropped. concurrencyremote and concurrencyincoming are set to 500 connections - should I be looking anywhere else? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Sánchez Martín;David FN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ORG:E2000 Financial Investments, S.A.;Centro de Nuevas Tecnologías TITLE:Administrador de Sistemas TEL;WORK;VOICE:902196177 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;Agust=EDn Bravo 17 2=BA B=0D=0A33120 PRAVIA;Asturias;;;Espa=F1a LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:Agust=EDn Bravo 17 2=BA B=0D=0A33120 PRAVIA=0D=0AAsturias=0D=0AEspa=F1a URL;WORK:http://www.e2000.es EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20060705T152542Z
Re: [qmailtoaster] ezmln warning messages
My apologizes to slamp slamp and eric shubes. Because of the problem, I never recieved yall's email on the solution, hence why I kept asking questions about it. I finally went to the mail archives and found out that there were some replies to the e-mail that I sent out and so I implemented what y'all said. I took out the dkverify and dkqueue from my tcp.smtp. I will update in a week or two if I don't get any more of those warning messages. Thanks ... Ryan Ryan Gibbons wrote: I am getting this every so often Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12654 invoked for bounce); 11 Nov 2006 07:05:43 - Date: 11 Nov 2006 07:05:43 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: failure notice Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ns1.qmailtoaster.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 69.13.46.7 failed after I sent the message. Remote host said: 554 qq permanent problem (#5.3.0) How can I track the problem down? - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: [qmailtoaster] Backup and restore script
Hi Jake, yes now the link on the wiki and on your site work. Thank you for the quick response. While the link don't work, I take a look at http://v2gnu.com/filemgmt/index.php. There are two links to Qmail-Toaster Backup and Restore Script that do not work and in the description of the files says that it will be version 2.9. Is this wrong or will there be another version than that on your site (http://v2gnu.com/qmail/)? Thomas -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jake Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2006 13:30 An: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Betreff: Re: [qmailtoaster] Backup and restore script Thomas Schmidt wrote: Hello, is there another source where I can get the backup and restore scripts from the wiki-site. The links on v2gnu.com are broken. The backup/restore scripts are either available from my site (v2gnu.com), or the link for the wiki should work again. Let me know if you have any further problems. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] URIDNSBL
Hey all I am trying to get URIDNSBL. But I think that I have some more problems than just that. When I run spamassassin -D --lint I get the following out put with 8 errors. This is all Greek to me can someone shed some light on this for me. I really hate spam.. LOL Thanks in advance, Q random_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200512121000.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_random_cf_sare _sa-update_dostech_net/200512121000.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_random_cf_s are_sa-update_dostech_net/200512121000.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_ specific_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200605280300.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_specific_cf_sa re_sa-update_dostech_net/200605280300.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_specific_cf _sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200605280300.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_ spoof_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200607251600.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_spoof_cf_sare_ sa-update_dostech_net/200607251600.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_spoof_cf_sa re_sa-update_dostech_net/200607251600.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_ stocks_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200612040900.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_stocks_cf_sare _sa-update_dostech_net/200612040900.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_stocks_cf_s are_sa-update_dostech_net/200612040900.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_ unsub_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200511121000.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_unsub_cf_sare_ sa-update_dostech_net/200511121000.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_unsub_cf_sa re_sa-update_dostech_net/200511121000.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_ uri0_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200510042200.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_uri0_cf_sare_s a-update_dostech_net/200510042200.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_uri0_cf_sar e_sa-update_dostech_net/200510042200.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/72_sare_ bml_post25x_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/20050602.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/72_sare_bml_post25x_cf _sare_sa-update_dostech_net/20050602.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/72_sare_bml_post25x _cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/20050602.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/72_sare_ redirect_post3_0_0_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200605160300.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/72_sare_redirect_post3 _0_0_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200605160300.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/72_sare_redirect_po st3_0_0_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200605160300.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/99_sare_ fraud_post25x_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/20050602.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/99_sare_fraud_post25x_ cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/20050602.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/99_sare_fraud_post2 5x_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/20050602.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_ spamassassin_org/20_dnsbl_tests.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_spamassassin_o rg/20_dnsbl_tests.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_spamassassi n_org/20_dnsbl_tests.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_ spamassassin_org/20_anti_ratware.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_spamassassin_o rg/20_anti_ratware.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_spamassassi n_org/20_anti_ratware.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_ spamassassin_org/20_advance_fee.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_spamassassin_o rg/20_advance_fee.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_spamassassi n_org/20_advance_fee.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_ spamassassin_org/60_whitelist_subject.cf [5031] dbg: config: using
Re: AW: [qmailtoaster] Backup and restore script
Thomas Schmidt wrote: Hi Jake, yes now the link on the wiki and on your site work. Thank you for the quick response. While the link don't work, I take a look at http://v2gnu.com/filemgmt/index.php. There are two links to Qmail-Toaster Backup and Restore Script that do not work and in the description of the files says that it will be version 2.9. Is this wrong or will there be another version than that on your site (http://v2gnu.com/qmail/)? Yeah, still working bugs out. Put the new site up and work exploded yet again. I fixed it for now. I'm not sure which version the wiki is referencing, but the download for the new 2.9 off my site now works. They're the same script if the wiki is calling an older one; it just won't back up a few things like Squirrelmail prefs and what-not. And the site is now just v2gnu.com. If you go to v2gnu.com/qmail you will get the old site (thrown up temporarily). smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
RE: [qmailtoaster] URIDNSBL
Can you maybe snippet out the errors to make it easier for us to read. All your lines are showing jumbled up and hard to read. -Original Message- From: Kyle Quillen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:26 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] URIDNSBL Hey all I am trying to get URIDNSBL. But I think that I have some more problems than just that. When I run spamassassin -D --lint I get the following out put with 8 errors. This is all Greek to me can someone shed some light on this for me. I really hate spam.. LOL Thanks in advance, Q random_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200512121000.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_random_cf_sare _sa-update_dostech_net/200512121000.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_random_cf_s are_sa-update_dostech_net/200512121000.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_ specific_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200605280300.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_specific_cf_sa re_sa-update_dostech_net/200605280300.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_specific_cf _sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200605280300.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_ spoof_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200607251600.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_spoof_cf_sare_ sa-update_dostech_net/200607251600.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_spoof_cf_sa re_sa-update_dostech_net/200607251600.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_ stocks_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200612040900.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_stocks_cf_sare _sa-update_dostech_net/200612040900.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_stocks_cf_s are_sa-update_dostech_net/200612040900.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_ unsub_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200511121000.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_unsub_cf_sare_ sa-update_dostech_net/200511121000.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_unsub_cf_sa re_sa-update_dostech_net/200511121000.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_ uri0_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200510042200.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_uri0_cf_sare_s a-update_dostech_net/200510042200.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/70_sare_uri0_cf_sar e_sa-update_dostech_net/200510042200.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/72_sare_ bml_post25x_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/20050602.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/72_sare_bml_post25x_cf _sare_sa-update_dostech_net/20050602.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/72_sare_bml_post25x _cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/20050602.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/72_sare_ redirect_post3_0_0_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200605160300.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/72_sare_redirect_post3 _0_0_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200605160300.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/72_sare_redirect_po st3_0_0_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/200605160300.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/99_sare_ fraud_post25x_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/20050602.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/99_sare_fraud_post25x_ cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/20050602.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/99_sare_fraud_post2 5x_cf_sare_sa-update_dostech_net/20050602.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_ spamassassin_org/20_dnsbl_tests.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_spamassassin_o rg/20_dnsbl_tests.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_spamassassi n_org/20_dnsbl_tests.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_ spamassassin_org/20_anti_ratware.cf [5031] dbg: config: using /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_spamassassin_o rg/20_anti_ratware.cf for included file [5031] dbg: config: read file /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_spamassassi n_org/20_anti_ratware.cf [5031] dbg: plugin: fixed relative path: /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_ spamassassin_org/20_advance_fee.cf [5031] dbg: config: using
RE: [qmailtoaster] Toaster + Horde + Vacation
Yea I know it's built into qmailadmin and squirrelmail but I'm trying to move away from squirrelmail and into Horde. I just wanted to see if anyone had successfully configured it with horde. Squirrelmail is kinda bland ;/ Thanks anyways! -Original Message- From: Erik Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:58 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Toaster + Horde + Vacation This is built into the QmailToaster package for Squirrelmail On 12/13/06, Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Herbon wrote: Anyone out there have a working version of Horde with Project Sork implemented into it? Sork being passwd, vacation, forwards and accounts. Trying to get away from squirrel mail and configure it properly so my users can add vacation messages and change their passwords through horde. Any help is appreciated. Dan Herbon Hello Why do you try the qmailadmin plugin for squirrelmail ? works like a charm, you can change your password, set vacation messages, add spamcheck http://www.squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=234 -Philip - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Need a Patch
Ted Johnson wrote: Hi; I don't want posts to my lists publishing the email addresses of those who post. I want to hide those. Since I'm sure I'm not the first one to want that, is there a patch out there that does this? Or, what would I edit to achieve this? I'm not aware of any patches for this, but I've also never looked. You may want to troll Google for patches for ezmlm, which is the package that handles the mailing lists. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[qmailtoaster] The ME file
So I was going through the control files FAQ section and noticed that the ME file should be set to the servers IP address rather than hostname if you have multiple domains. Can anyone tell me the benefit of doing this? I have been running 10 domains on my qmail server for quite sometime and haven't really noticed any problems.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Need a Patch
Ted Johnson wrote: 7272 - Original Message From: Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not aware of any patches for this, but I've also never looked. You may want to troll Google for patches for ezmlm, which is the package that handles the mailing lists. I have had no luck doing that. How about substituting the email address of the list, like this very list does? How does one do that? How does qmailtoaster-list do that? That will be in the options when you set up the list. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [qmailtoaster] RBL Server: dnsbl.antispam.or.id
cbl.abuseat.org is included as part of the zen.spamhaus.org zone, so listing the two together is redundant. Quinn On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:09:42 -0500, Jake Vickers wrote: Same here. I've got my blacklists file pruned down to: -r zen.spamhaus.org -r relays.ordb.org -r list.dsbl.org -r cbl.abuseat.org - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Toaster + Horde + Vacation
I have info regarding passwd/horde/qmail-toaster I´m busy right now, I´ll send it later. Salutti, Natalio. On 12/14/06, Dan Herbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea I know it's built into qmailadmin and squirrelmail but I'm trying to move away from squirrelmail and into Horde. I just wanted to see if anyone had successfully configured it with horde. Squirrelmail is kinda bland ;/ Thanks anyways! -Original Message- From: Erik Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:58 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Toaster + Horde + Vacation This is built into the QmailToaster package for Squirrelmail On 12/13/06, Philip Nix Guru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Herbon wrote: Anyone out there have a working version of Horde with Project Sork implemented into it? Sork being passwd, vacation, forwards and accounts. Trying to get away from squirrel mail and configure it properly so my users can add vacation messages and change their passwords through horde. Any help is appreciated. Dan Herbon Hello Why do you try the qmailadmin plugin for squirrelmail ? works like a charm, you can change your password, set vacation messages, add spamcheck http://www.squirrelmail.org/plugin_view.php?id=234 -Philip - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Need a Patch
- Original Message From: Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] That will be in the options when you set up the list. I didn't set up these lists...that was helpful! Here are the commands that were given to establish the lists: ezmlm-make /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/example.com/mylist /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/example.com/.qmail-mylist mylist example.com chown -R vpopmail:vchkpw /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/example.com/mylist After reading man ezmlm-make, I noticed a few flags I'd like to throw: ezmlm-make -t -x -e -f -i -3 fromarg /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/example.com/mylist /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/example.com/.qmail-mylist mylist example.com chown -R vpopmail:vchkpw /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/example.com/mylist I presume the -e flag will enable me to reconfigure the list without dumping it, right? Now, about the -3 fromarg flag...what the heck is fromarg?? I would have thought -3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] would have been more appropriate? Your thoughts? TIA, Ted Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index
Re: [qmailtoaster] Need a Patch
Ted Johnson wrote: - Original Message From: Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] That will be in the options when you set up the list. I didn't set up these lists...that was helpful! Here are the commands that were given to establish the lists: ezmlm-make /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/example.com/mylist /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/example.com/.qmail-mylist mylist example.com chown -R vpopmail:vchkpw /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/example.com/mylist After reading man ezmlm-make, I noticed a few flags I'd like to throw: ezmlm-make -t -x -e -f -i -3 fromarg /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/example.com/mylist /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/example.com/.qmail-mylist mylist example.com chown -R vpopmail:vchkpw /usr/local/vpopmail/domains/example.com/mylist I presume the -e flag will enable me to reconfigure the list without dumping it, right? Now, about the -3 fromarg flag...what the heck is fromarg?? I would have thought -3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] would have been more appropriate? Your thoughts? I've only ever set them up through the web page interface, so I can't help much. Hopefully someone else can chime in. The only thing I've ever done at the CLI with ezmlm was to import massive lists of addresses to it (can't be done via the web page). smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
RE: [qmailtoaster] AJAX Webmail
Greetings, I've been offering roundcube and squirrelmail side-by-side for almost a year. Overwhelmingly, customers choose roundcube over squirrelmail. Yes, it is still in beta (lots of people balk at using beta software in a production environment, but still, it happens all the time.) Yes it still has some bugs. NO, IT IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR A 'REAL' EMAIL CLIENT. Despite being a beta product, it works GREAT for thousands of my customers. I've never encountered any of the known issues. Those which my customers have encountered have all been minor (visual artifacts, time-outs, etc.). Those customers who don't like either squirrelmail or roundcube are encouraged to use a 'real' email client. In fact, when our CSRs tell customers about how to access the webmail, they specifically mention that webmail is not intended to be used a replacement for a traditional email client. Sincerely, -- Joseph Lundgren Systems Engineer Peak Internet, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jake Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 4:30 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] AJAX Webmail Gabriel Lai wrote: Hi all, I've found this AJAX based webmail that has a better interface than squirrelmail. Take a look at it: http://www.roundcube.net/ Maybe someone can post up a installation guide on wiki page. I've tried to do that, but somehow failed on my site. Maybe someone can get it done successfully. We have looked at Roundcube before. It's still in Beta, and still has a list of known bugs. Once most of those are sorted out, we will look at it again. Even if to only add it to the Plus package. And for what it's worth, you can do a custom skin for Squirrelmail and make it look almost like this. You just have to do the work. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] Issues with SPF - hotmail duplicate deliveries
It seems that hotmail addresses sending to my qmail toaster resend mail over and over. I see something like 10 copies of the same message. I think we have narrowed it down to SPF headers like this. Please look at the two headers below: Subject: RE: [ocjug] Re: [Off Topic] Privacy rights in the workplace? From: Steve Forsyth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:52:06 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Josh Rehman [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on koala.webeasy.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=6.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2,NO_RELAYS,TW_OC autolearn=no version=3.1.7 X-maildrop: yes Received: (qmail 14466 invoked by uid 89); 14 Dec 2006 19:17:48 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 14445 invoked by uid 89); 14 Dec 2006 19:17:48 - Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] list-unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] list-post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 14435 invoked by uid 89); 14 Dec 2006 19:17:47 - DomainKey-Status: no signature DomainKey-Status: no signature Received-SPF: pass (platypus.webeasy.com: SPF record at spf-a.hotmail.com designates 65.54.246.82 as permitted sender) X-Originating-IP: [208.45.168.113] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_43beef9e-9bfb-45ef-95dc-a5c43ff947a5_ MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2006 18:52:06.0275 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3778530:01C71FB0] Subject: RE: [ocjug] Re: [Off Topic] Privacy rights in the workplace? From: Steve Forsyth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:52:06 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Josh Rehman [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on koala.webeasy.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=6.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD2,NO_RELAYS,TW_OC autolearn=no version=3.1.7 X-maildrop: yes Received: (qmail 21797 invoked by uid 89); 14 Dec 2006 19:35:47 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 21765 invoked by uid 89); 14 Dec 2006 19:35:47 - Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] list-unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] list-post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 21757 invoked by uid 89); 14 Dec 2006 19:35:47 - DomainKey-Status: no signature X-Originating-IP: [208.45.168.113] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_43beef9e-9bfb-45ef-95dc-a5c43ff947a5_ MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2006 18:52:06.0275 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3778530:01C71FB0] Identical messages - just redelivered. No clue as to why - this seems to plague hotmail mainly. The machine is not under pressure - not swapping, etc. The mail is from an EZMLM list that I host - all the recipients see these duplicates, so it is annoying. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] OpenWebmail Web Client
Hi guys, anyone have tried openwebmail before? http://openwebmail.org/openwebmail/ Just curious to seek for advice and opinions. Thanks Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.
Re: [qmailtoaster] OpenWebmail Web Client
I believe that;s based on neomail and access the data directly, no IMAP in the middle. I like it a lot, but as far as I know, it doesn't support vpopmail+mysql. In other words, no QmailToaster. On 12/14/06, Gabriel Lai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, anyone have tried openwebmail before? http://openwebmail.org/openwebmail/ Just curious to seek for advice and opinions. Thanks Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Issues with SPF - hotmail duplicate deliveries
Greetings, Michael. On 15 ??? 2006 ?., 4:22:49 you wrote: It seems that hotmail addresses sending to my qmail toaster resend mail over and over. I see something like 10 copies of the same message. I think we have narrowed it down to SPF headers like this. Please look at the two headers below: === SNIPPED A LOT === Identical messages - just redelivered. No clue as to why - this seems to plague hotmail mainly. The machine is not under pressure - not swapping, etc. The mail is from an EZMLM list that I host - all the recipients see these duplicates, so it is annoying. Why do you think that this is SPF related trouble? Headers above shows, that a message has passed SPF tests, that means that DNS query was successful. Even if it were not, timeout for DNS query typically is set to 10 seconds, so it's not the reason for other party to drop connection and resend a message later. Even more, SPF get's checked just after 'MAIL FROM:' issue from other party, and it the connection were timing out at this moment, there would be no message at all to reach your qq handler. If I were you, I'd temporarily turned off SpamAssassin (or disabled bayest tests and learning completely in local.cf), as the common cause for connections to time out after a DATA sequence is a way to long time SA takes to check a message in several rare conditions. Check this for more info: http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg09684.html -- Best regards, Alexey Loukianov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] System Engineer, IT Department, Lavtech Corp - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] AJAX Webmail
RoundCube will not be an officially supported qmailtoaster package until it becomes a little more stable or until they switch to their release model. No updates since August, and recommended distribution is cvs/svn. I'd also prefer it if no db was required for a webmail, but that's just me. I am not going to deal with cvs/svn to get the latest sources and monitor yet another mailing list to see when a relevant security issue comes up. It's just too much work for me to support it right now. In the mean time, users who want roundcube are welcome to install it. Thanks, Erik On 12/14/06, Ryan Gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been doing the same, and have the same results. I am running an older svn release, which fixed some things that was broke on their latest release. The current beta2 is suppose to be pretty good. The only actually problem I have had is it had some problems encoding attachments. But that has been fixed. The latest SVN is very nice, with a message preview pane and more parts working. I really like where this project is going. Two things I don't like, there is no calendar as of yet, and the last install I did stores all the userprefs in a mysql table, one table ... every user of the system, just doesn't seem very efficient for large servers. Just my two cents. Joseph Lundgren wrote: Greetings, I've been offering roundcube and squirrelmail side-by-side for almost a year. Overwhelmingly, customers choose roundcube over squirrelmail. Yes, it is still in beta (lots of people balk at using beta software in a production environment, but still, it happens all the time.) Yes it still has some bugs. NO, IT IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR A 'REAL' EMAIL CLIENT. Despite being a beta product, it works GREAT for thousands of my customers. I've never encountered any of the known issues. Those which my customers have encountered have all been minor (visual artifacts, time-outs, etc.). Those customers who don't like either squirrelmail or roundcube are encouraged to use a 'real' email client. In fact, when our CSRs tell customers about how to access the webmail, they specifically mention that webmail is not intended to be used a replacement for a traditional email client. Sincerely, -- Joseph Lundgren Systems Engineer Peak Internet, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jake Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 4:30 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] AJAX Webmail Gabriel Lai wrote: Hi all, I've found this AJAX based webmail that has a better interface than squirrelmail. Take a look at it: http://www.roundcube.net/ Maybe someone can post up a installation guide on wiki page. I've tried to do that, but somehow failed on my site. Maybe someone can get it done successfully. We have looked at Roundcube before. It's still in Beta, and still has a list of known bugs. Once most of those are sorted out, we will look at it again. Even if to only add it to the Plus package. And for what it's worth, you can do a custom skin for Squirrelmail and make it look almost like this. You just have to do the work. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]