[qmailtoaster] QT / Courier-IMAP and Apple's Leopard (OS X 10.5)

2007-11-03 Thread Harry Zink
Seems there's a problem between QT and Apple's Leopard Mail client, or
rather he problem is between the utilized Courier-IMAP version in
QmailToaster, and Apple's Mail client.

Users will find themselves unable to delete files and folder under
certain circumstances. I was able to replicate this. Current
work-arounds don't always work, and are usually on the mail-client end
- hence, not really acceptable as genuine fixes.

I also tested this with a separate installation on a Postfix server,
running Cirrus-IMAP, and everything works as it should (no surprise,
since Apple's OS X Server also uses Cirrus). While there may be some
work-arounds in the short term, personally I see a better long-term
solution to be to replace Courier-IMAP with the Cirrus solution -
aside from fixing this issue, it also has a smaller footprint, and
much better efficiency (i.e. less load on a server with a larger n
umber of users).

Not sure if this has already shown up on any radar, but wanted to
share a general head's up, and hoping that a solution may be
forthcoming.

Harry

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Re: [qmailtoaster] QT / Courier-IMAP and Apple's Leopard (OS X 10.5)

2007-11-03 Thread dnk
did you notice this issue with older versions of the apple mail client?

Dustin

On 11/3/07, Harry Zink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Seems there's a problem between QT and Apple's Leopard Mail client, or
 rather he problem is between the utilized Courier-IMAP version in
 QmailToaster, and Apple's Mail client.

 Users will find themselves unable to delete files and folder under
 certain circumstances. I was able to replicate this. Current
 work-arounds don't always work, and are usually on the mail-client end
 - hence, not really acceptable as genuine fixes.

 I also tested this with a separate installation on a Postfix server,
 running Cirrus-IMAP, and everything works as it should (no surprise,
 since Apple's OS X Server also uses Cirrus). While there may be some
 work-arounds in the short term, personally I see a better long-term
 solution to be to replace Courier-IMAP with the Cirrus solution -
 aside from fixing this issue, it also has a smaller footprint, and
 much better efficiency (i.e. less load on a server with a larger n
 umber of users).

 Not sure if this has already shown up on any radar, but wanted to
 share a general head's up, and hoping that a solution may be
 forthcoming.

 Harry

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Re: [qmailtoaster] QT / Courier-IMAP and Apple's Leopard (OS X 10.5)

2007-11-03 Thread Harry Zink
No, of course not, which is why I carefully worded my subject line.

I've used it under Tiger and its Mail Client (Mail.app v2.0) since Day
One, and never had an issue.

This issue only surfaced, and was reported in multiple places, since
the release of Leopard 10.5 and the associated Mail Client (Mail.app
v3.0).

Harry

On Nov 3, 2007 9:02 PM, dnk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 did you notice this issue with older versions of the apple mail client?

 Dustin


 On 11/3/07, Harry Zink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Seems there's a problem between QT and Apple's Leopard Mail client, or
  rather he problem is between the utilized Courier-IMAP version in
  QmailToaster, and Apple's Mail client.
 
  Users will find themselves unable to delete files and folder under
  certain circumstances. I was able to replicate this. Current
  work-arounds don't always work, and are usually on the mail-client end
  - hence, not really acceptable as genuine fixes.
 
  I also tested this with a separate installation on a Postfix server,
  running Cirrus-IMAP, and everything works as it should (no surprise,
  since Apple's OS X Server also uses Cirrus). While there may be some
  work-arounds in the short term, personally I see a better long-term
  solution to be to replace Courier-IMAP with the Cirrus solution -
  aside from fixing this issue, it also has a smaller footprint, and
  much better efficiency (i.e. less load on a server with a larger n
  umber of users).
 
  Not sure if this has already shown up on any radar, but wanted to
  share a general head's up, and hoping that a solution may be
  forthcoming.
 
  Harry
 
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[qmailtoaster] Correction -- *DOVECOT* IMAP server works fine...

2007-11-03 Thread Harry Zink


My bad, I made an error with the description of the functional IMAP  
server which I tested against - the Postfix system I was testing  
(VirtualMin) uses the Dovecot IMAP server (not Cirrus, as erroneously  
reported).




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