Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: quota warning message
Hi, On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Michael Colvin mcol...@norcalisp.com wrote: I would add to Eric's comments that I don't think simply disabling the Quota Warning Message is going to work, or that it's even a good idea. Sure, your user's won't get the message, but will quotas still be enforced? If so, your users will, without warning, start having mail bounced... I would either disable quotas, or jack them up stupidly high, then disable the messages... Although, I'm guessing just disabling them would be the best bet for now. Is it enough if I diasble the quotas at domain level? That overrides the settings that has been disabled for individual users, right? Best, Peter - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: how to go from no raid to raid 1
Eric Shubert wrote: David Milholen wrote: Hi All, I have an issue on one of my production mail server.. I did not install this one but it seems that when it was installed with no raid in mind. I need to make this move to go to raid 1 with out losing any configuration or data on the current root drive. I have never done this before but have a good understanding of what may need to happen I just need a good step by step to keep me from losing what is in place now. This machine is an e-server 326m has 2 sata 250GB drives. here is the output of the df command Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1240362656 16316904 211835952 8% / /dev/sda1 101086 11843 84024 13% /boot none 2047316 0 2047316 0% /dev/shm Any suggestions on this would be great.. TM Dave Hey Dave, This'll be a little tricky, but not too bad. In short, you'll .) migrate /boot to sdb1. This will free up the sda drive. .) build (degraded) raid arrays, filesystems on sda .) migrate sdb-sda .) boot/run from sda (degraded) .) create raid partitions on sdb .) add sdb raid paritions into /dev/md? arrays After doing the first step, you'll need to decide how your new system will be partitioned. I usually create 2 raid arrays on each drive, one 100M for /boot and whatever's left I make a LVG (/boot cannot be in a LV). Then I divvy up the logical volume. For QMT, I think I'd use: / - 8G /tmp - 1G /var - 2G swap - 1-2 times RAM /home - whatever's left That should get you started. Holler as you have questions, and we'll do what we can to help out. Oh, and please take notes. You might want to write a how-to for the wiki when you're done. ;) Ok, I am working on the process today by doing a complete backup to my nas so I have a complete image in case I break something. There is nothing else running on this machine except qmt-1.40 and dns. My tmp is very small so Eric's suggestion should work fine. I am documenting everything and when complete Ill put it in the wiki. TM Dave - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: returned mails
I just had a customer contact me about something that may be the same issue. They are getting the following error: An error occurred while sending mail. The server responded: sorry , reached maximum number of recipients for one session (#5.7.1 - chkuser). Please check the message recipients and try again. Is this the same problem? Has it been discussed before or is it a new issue? Thanks, CJ Erol KAHRAMAN wrote: It could be a good idea to use ezmlm or mailman. I will examine that method. Thank you Eric Thank you Jake Eric Shubert wrote On 22-11-2009 01:02: Erol KAHRAMAN wrote: hi, I am trying to send info mail (not spam) to my customers. But sometime i get not delivered mails, because of quota overload, user not found etc. Is it possible to determine and redirect those mails to a folder. I wrote a script which check all mails and move them in a folder. But my aim is to check mails by .qmail file. Is there any script or method for achieving that goal. - List servers handle this sort of thing automatically. Have you considered using ezmlm or mailman to handle these mailings? - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Cecil Yother, Jr. "cj" cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | fax 510.864.7300 http://yother.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: returned mails
Maxwell Smart wrote: I just had a customer contact me about something that may be the same issue. They are getting the following error: /An error occurred while sending mail. The server responded: sorry , reached maximum number of recipients for one session (#5.7.1 - chkuser). Please check the message recipients and try again. /Is this the same problem? Has it been discussed before or is it a new issue? Thanks, Kinda related, but different problem. Been discussed before. Your user has too many people listed in the TO (or CC) lines of their email. This is controlled in the tcp.smtp file, and if you are exceeding it (I believe it's 50 by default) then you should probably look at a mailing list instead of highlighting all the contacts in the address book and hitting send.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: returned mails
Jake, Thanks. I have upped the limit to 100. It's just one customer and a mailing list is likely not in the cards for him. Is there a terrible downside to upping the limit? CJ Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: I just had a customer contact me about something that may be the same issue. They are getting the following error: An error occurred while sending mail. The server responded: sorry , reached maximum number of recipients for one session (#5.7.1 - chkuser). Please check the message recipients and try again. Is this the same problem? Has it been discussed before or is it a new issue? Thanks, Kinda related, but different problem. Been discussed before. Your user has too many people listed in the TO (or CC) lines of their email. This is controlled in the tcp.smtp file, and if you are exceeding it (I believe it's 50 by default) then you should probably look at a mailing list instead of highlighting all the contacts in the address book and hitting send. -- Cecil Yother, Jr. "cj" cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 1.510.865.2787 | fax 1.510.864.7300 http://yother.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: how to go from no raid to raid 1
David Milholen wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: David Milholen wrote: Hi All, I have an issue on one of my production mail server.. I did not install this one but it seems that when it was installed with no raid in mind. I need to make this move to go to raid 1 with out losing any configuration or data on the current root drive. I have never done this before but have a good understanding of what may need to happen I just need a good step by step to keep me from losing what is in place now. This machine is an e-server 326m has 2 sata 250GB drives. here is the output of the df command Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1240362656 16316904 211835952 8% / /dev/sda1 101086 11843 84024 13% /boot none 2047316 0 2047316 0% /dev/shm Any suggestions on this would be great.. TM Dave Hey Dave, This'll be a little tricky, but not too bad. In short, you'll .) migrate /boot to sdb1. This will free up the sda drive. .) build (degraded) raid arrays, filesystems on sda .) migrate sdb-sda .) boot/run from sda (degraded) .) create raid partitions on sdb .) add sdb raid paritions into /dev/md? arrays After doing the first step, you'll need to decide how your new system will be partitioned. I usually create 2 raid arrays on each drive, one 100M for /boot and whatever's left I make a LVG (/boot cannot be in a LV). Then I divvy up the logical volume. For QMT, I think I'd use: / - 8G /tmp - 1G /var - 2G swap - 1-2 times RAM /home - whatever's left That should get you started. Holler as you have questions, and we'll do what we can to help out. Oh, and please take notes. You might want to write a how-to for the wiki when you're done. ;) Ok, I am working on the process today by doing a complete backup to my nas so I have a complete image in case I break something. There is nothing else running on this machine except qmt-1.40 and dns. My tmp is very small so Eric's suggestion should work fine. I am documenting everything and when complete Ill put it in the wiki. TM Dave Sounds great Dave. Keep us posted. I would definitely keep a little space (maybe 12G or so) unused, just in case. You never know what'll come up. Sometimes you can use symlinks to work around a disk space shortage, but growing a LV is a much better solution. You need to have a little spare room to grow though. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] re: EZMLM
Is there any place one can find out how to use the EZMLM included with the ISO toaster? CJ -- Cecil Yother, Jr. "cj" cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 1.510.865.2787 | fax 1.510.864.7300 http://yother.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] re: EZMLM
On Nov 23, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Is there any place one can find out how to use the EZMLM included with the ISO toaster? do you have a specific issue that isn't covered by one of the first four Google hits for 'ezmlm'? you also may want to check http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/ . -steve -- If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v http://five.sentenc.es PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [qmailtoaster] re: EZMLM
I only did a google search on Howto EZMLM qmailtoaster and it was not helpful. The wiki is pretty much useless for EZMLM howto. Maybe you could add some content there to make it easier for toaster users to get started. :) I will read the Users manual on the EZMLM site. Steve Huff wrote: On Nov 23, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Is there any place one can find out how to use the EZMLM included with the ISO toaster? do you have a specific issue that isn't covered by one of the first four Google hits for 'ezmlm'? you also may want to check http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/. -steve -- If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v http://five.sentenc.es -- Cecil Yother, Jr. "cj" cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 1.510.865.2787 | fax 1.510.864.7300 http://yother.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: quota warning message
Peter Peltonen wrote: Hi, On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: I didn't know you can disable quotas at the domain level (learn something new every day). I'd give it a shot. Oh, and please let us know how you do that, and how it works. Well if you don't know about it, then I've might misunderstood something :) But at least in QControl when editing an domain I have the option: Domain Quota in megabytes (0 for no quota): I checked now the command line tools and it appears that the domain quota can be set also with /home/vpopmail/bin/vmoddomlimits which has the following options: -Q quota-in-megabytes ( set domain disk quota, '100' = 100 MB ) -q quota-in-bytes ( set default user quota, '10M' = 10 MB ) Never used these though. Does anyone here have experience on setting the domain disk quota limit and how it reflects on user quotas? Best, Peter I've never used them, personally, but it would seem logical that domain wide quota's would override global settings, and users would override domain...But, that's just a guess. Mike - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: EZMLM
I am not sure EZMLM would work anyways. From what I read it needs you to subscribe to a list. This customer wants simply to send 100 e mails at one time. Which would be appropriate? It sounds to me like EZMLM is for lists, like this one. Am I interpreting this correctly? Eric Shubert wrote: If you're getting ready to use ezmlm, be sure to consider mailman as well. It's much more user friendly. I've written a page on the wiki regarding how to implement it with QMT. Maxwell Smart wrote: I only did a google search on Howto EZMLM qmailtoaster and it was not helpful. The wiki is pretty much useless for EZMLM howto. Maybe you could add some content there to make it easier for toaster users to get started. :) I will read the Users manual on the EZMLM site. Steve Huff wrote: On Nov 23, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Is there any place one can find out how to use the EZMLM included with the ISO toaster? do you have a specific issue that isn't covered by one of the first four Google hits for 'ezmlm'? you also may want to check http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/. -steve -- If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v http://five.sentenc.es -- Cecil Yother, Jr. "cj" cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 1.510.865.2787 | fax 1.510.864.7300 http://yother.com - -- Cecil Yother, Jr. "cj" cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 1.510.865.2787 | fax 1.510.864.7300 http://yother.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: returned mails
Maxwell Smart wrote: Jake, Thanks. I have upped the limit to 100. It's just one customer and a mailing list is likely not in the cards for him. Is there a terrible downside to upping the limit? CJ Just that the setting applies to all users on your system (unless you can lock it to IP). It's meant as an anti-spam throttle check, so if a user of yours gets infected you can at least slow/minimize the number of spam messages their computer sends out. Note that there is a hard limit of something like 320 set during compilation time, so any value set above that will still stop at 320. To verify this default, search the archives for a message I posted on this topic a while back. Maybe even as far back as 3 years ago.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: quota warning message
Michael Colvin wrote: Peter Peltonen wrote: Hi, On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: I didn't know you can disable quotas at the domain level (learn something new every day). I'd give it a shot. Oh, and please let us know how you do that, and how it works. Well if you don't know about it, then I've might misunderstood something :) But at least in QControl when editing an domain I have the option: Domain Quota in megabytes (0 for no quota): I checked now the command line tools and it appears that the domain quota can be set also with /home/vpopmail/bin/vmoddomlimits which has the following options: -Q quota-in-megabytes ( set domain disk quota, '100' = 100 MB ) -q quota-in-bytes ( set default user quota, '10M' = 10 MB ) Never used these though. Does anyone here have experience on setting the domain disk quota limit and how it reflects on user quotas? Best, Peter I've never used them, personally, but it would seem logical that domain wide quota's would override global settings, and users would override domain...But, that's just a guess. Mike Quotas in Qmailtoaster (vpopmail really) have, well, mixed results. It seems they either work for you or they do not. I personally have never had an issue with them on any of my systems, but I will also admit that I have not thoroughly tested them either. Drives are *so* cheap these days that I just don't worry about quotas for users and either set no quota or something ridiculously high. A 1TB drive can be found for ~$90USD these days (I know - I have two) and at that price why not let the users have their email boxes back? Anyway, I put those options in QControl since vpopmail supported them. I have not thoroughly tested any of the extended options for vpopmail in general, so any feedback is appreciated and can be added to the wiki for future users if nothing else. Thanks.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: EZMLM
Maxwell Smart wrote: I am not sure EZMLM would work anyways. From what I read it needs you to subscribe to a list. This customer wants simply to send 100 e mails at one time. Which would be appropriate? It sounds to me like EZMLM is for lists, like this one. Am I interpreting this correctly? ezmlm is ezmlm. Qmailtoaster does not do anything special for it, so any documents you read on ezmlm will apply. You can manually add users to the mailing list without going through the whole subscribe process. In qmailadmin, click mailing lists, create one, and then click add subscribers. Add a user. The user does not receive any confirmation emails. Then send a message to that mailing list and the user will then get it. You will need to give the user access to qmailadmin however, so they can manage the list easily. There are also commands you can send to the list to do the same functions, but unless you're really savvy then this can be very difficult (for example, send an email to List-Help: mailto:qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com and see what you get back) If you need to bulk import addresses, then I have a writeup on the wiki on how to do that from the CLI. There are some other web based admin utils for controlling ezmlm or giving admin access to lists to certain users, but I have not investigated any of these solutions myself. As Eric mentioned, mailman may also be a source. I find ezmlm easier to setup and manage in general, but if you can convince your user to only go into certain tabs in mailman then it may be a better choice for non-technical users.
