[qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Istvan Köpe

Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 according 
to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait about 
30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from LAN or from 
the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, no 
change.

The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.

Thanks!

Istvan

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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Istvan Köpe

The reverse DNS is not set yet. Can this be a reason for the slow response?

I.

On 11.04.2010 11:33, Istvan Köpe wrote:

Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 
according to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait about 
30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from LAN or 
from the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, no 
change.

The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.

Thanks!

Istvan

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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Postmaster

My qmail-toaster is rejecting any e-mail with no reverse DNS record.
Suggest you set it up ASAP.

Regards
Alex

On 11/04/2010 10:20, Istvan Köpe wrote:
The reverse DNS is not set yet. Can this be a reason for the slow 
response?


I.

On 11.04.2010 11:33, Istvan Köpe wrote:

Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 
according to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait about 
30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from LAN or 
from the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, 
no change.

The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.

Thanks!

Istvan

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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi there,

Reverse lookup on your IP is not possible yet?
That would be a VERY bad idea for any mail server.
It is highly likely that in addition to slow performance, a lot of recipients 
would block your outgoing mails as phishing or spam.

Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:20 schrieb Istvan Köpe:

 The reverse DNS is not set yet. Can this be a reason for the slow response?
 
 I.
 
 On 11.04.2010 11:33, Istvan Köpe wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 according to 
 wiki.
 The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait about 30sec 
 to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from LAN or from the 
 internet.
 I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 127.0.0.1 
 25
 I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, no 
 change.
 The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
 I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.
 
 I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.
 
 Please give me a clue.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Istvan
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Istvan Köpe

The reverse DNS will be set in the next few days.
I also removed everything form blacklists. Even if I change in the 
simcontrol clam=no,spam=no and I do telnet 127.0.0.1 25 it takes 30s


What does telnet 127.0.0.1 25 has to do with DNS or reverse DNS?

I.

On 11.04.2010 12:29, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

Hi there,

Reverse lookup on your IP is not possible yet?
That would be a VERY bad idea for any mail server.
It is highly likely that in addition to slow performance, a lot of recipients 
would block your outgoing mails as phishing or spam.

Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:20 schrieb Istvan Köpe:

   

The reverse DNS is not set yet. Can this be a reason for the slow response?

I.

On 11.04.2010 11:33, Istvan Köpe wrote:
 

Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 according to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait about 30sec to 
send a blank message, no matter if you connect from LAN or from the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, no change.
The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.

Thanks!

Istvan

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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Just to get this clear, it is not sending or receiving that takes so long, but 
your actual connection attempt via telnet takes that long?
E.g. from hitting enter after 'telnet 127.0.0.1 25' to the prompt coming on?

Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:41 schrieb Istvan Köpe:

 The reverse DNS will be set in the next few days.
 I also removed everything form blacklists. Even if I change in the simcontrol 
 clam=no,spam=no and I do telnet 127.0.0.1 25 it takes 30s
 
 What does telnet 127.0.0.1 25 has to do with DNS or reverse DNS?
 
 I.
 
 On 11.04.2010 12:29, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 Reverse lookup on your IP is not possible yet?
 That would be a VERY bad idea for any mail server.
 It is highly likely that in addition to slow performance, a lot of 
 recipients would block your outgoing mails as phishing or spam.
 
 Martin
 
 Am 11.04.2010 um 11:20 schrieb Istvan Köpe:
 
   
 The reverse DNS is not set yet. Can this be a reason for the slow response?
 
 I.
 
 On 11.04.2010 11:33, Istvan Köpe wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 according to 
 wiki.
 The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait about 
 30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from LAN or from 
 the internet.
 I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
 127.0.0.1 25
 I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, no 
 change.
 The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
 I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.
 
 I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.
 
 Please give me a clue.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Istvan
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Istvan Köpe
Sending mail takes long. Connecting from telnet(from anywhere) takes 
long. Receiving mail(POP3) is fast.
After hitting enter after telnet, I have the prompt instantly, but it 
takes about 30 sec to get the welcome message.


I.

On 11.04.2010 12:44, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

Just to get this clear, it is not sending or receiving that takes so long, but 
your actual connection attempt via telnet takes that long?
E.g. from hitting enter after 'telnet 127.0.0.1 25' to the prompt coming on?

Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:41 schrieb Istvan Köpe:

   

The reverse DNS will be set in the next few days.
I also removed everything form blacklists. Even if I change in the simcontrol 
clam=no,spam=no and I do telnet 127.0.0.1 25 it takes 30s

What does telnet 127.0.0.1 25 has to do with DNS or reverse DNS?

I.

On 11.04.2010 12:29, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 

Hi there,

Reverse lookup on your IP is not possible yet?
That would be a VERY bad idea for any mail server.
It is highly likely that in addition to slow performance, a lot of recipients 
would block your outgoing mails as phishing or spam.

Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:20 schrieb Istvan Köpe:


   

The reverse DNS is not set yet. Can this be a reason for the slow response?

I.

On 11.04.2010 11:33, Istvan Köpe wrote:

 

Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 according to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait about 30sec to 
send a blank message, no matter if you connect from LAN or from the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, no change.
The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.

Thanks!

Istvan

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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
That sounds like something else then.
Connect from localhost, at the very least, should be fast.

Is there already a lot of traffic on the system? What's the load of the smtp 
process?
Is there a chance that there is a large number of concurrent smtp connections 
already?

Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:58 schrieb Istvan Köpe:

 Sending mail takes long. Connecting from telnet(from anywhere) takes long. 
 Receiving mail(POP3) is fast.
 After hitting enter after telnet, I have the prompt instantly, but it takes 
 about 30 sec to get the welcome message.
 
 I.
 
 On 11.04.2010 12:44, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Just to get this clear, it is not sending or receiving that takes so long, 
 but your actual connection attempt via telnet takes that long?
 E.g. from hitting enter after 'telnet 127.0.0.1 25' to the prompt coming on?
 
 Martin
 
 Am 11.04.2010 um 11:41 schrieb Istvan Köpe:
 
   
 The reverse DNS will be set in the next few days.
 I also removed everything form blacklists. Even if I change in the 
 simcontrol clam=no,spam=no and I do telnet 127.0.0.1 25 it takes 30s
 
 What does telnet 127.0.0.1 25 has to do with DNS or reverse DNS?
 
 I.
 
 On 11.04.2010 12:29, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 
 Hi there,
 
 Reverse lookup on your IP is not possible yet?
 That would be a VERY bad idea for any mail server.
 It is highly likely that in addition to slow performance, a lot of 
 recipients would block your outgoing mails as phishing or spam.
 
 Martin
 
 Am 11.04.2010 um 11:20 schrieb Istvan Köpe:
 
 
   
 The reverse DNS is not set yet. Can this be a reason for the slow 
 response?
 
 I.
 
 On 11.04.2010 11:33, Istvan Köpe wrote:
 
 
 Hello,
 
 Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 according 
 to wiki.
 The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait about 
 30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from LAN or from 
 the internet.
 I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
 127.0.0.1 25
 I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, no 
 change.
 The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
 I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.
 
 I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.
 
 Please give me a clue.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Istvan
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Postmaster

You have given very little information.
Did you install spamdyke? - this is a delay variable in the config file
Have you looked into logs?

Regards
Alex


On 11/04/2010 10:58, Istvan Köpe wrote:
Sending mail takes long. Connecting from telnet(from anywhere) takes 
long. Receiving mail(POP3) is fast.
After hitting enter after telnet, I have the prompt instantly, but it 
takes about 30 sec to get the welcome message.


I.

On 11.04.2010 12:44, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
Just to get this clear, it is not sending or receiving that takes so 
long, but your actual connection attempt via telnet takes that long?
E.g. from hitting enter after 'telnet 127.0.0.1 25' to the prompt 
coming on?


Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:41 schrieb Istvan Köpe:


The reverse DNS will be set in the next few days.
I also removed everything form blacklists. Even if I change in the 
simcontrol clam=no,spam=no and I do telnet 127.0.0.1 25 it takes 30s


What does telnet 127.0.0.1 25 has to do with DNS or reverse DNS?

I.

On 11.04.2010 12:29, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

Hi there,

Reverse lookup on your IP is not possible yet?
That would be a VERY bad idea for any mail server.
It is highly likely that in addition to slow performance, a lot of 
recipients would block your outgoing mails as phishing or spam.


Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:20 schrieb Istvan Köpe:


The reverse DNS is not set yet. Can this be a reason for the slow 
response?


I.

On 11.04.2010 11:33, Istvan Köpe wrote:


Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 
according to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait 
about 30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect 
from LAN or from the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with 
djbdns, no change.
The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 
forwarded.

I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.

Thanks!

Istvan

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Re: [qmailtoaster] disable mx check in chkuser

2010-04-11 Thread Rajesh M
hello allo

thanks to all for your help

recompiling qmail-toaster*.src.rpm for making changes in chkuser

my requirement was as such

when my clients use webmail and send emails to say around 50 or 100 users
and even if one of the recepients had a bad email id like a spelling
mistake in their domain name or email formatting, then the entire email
used to fail

this was pretty annoying because the error message simply used to say : no
valid mx or invalid format, without mentioning exactly which email id is
at fault

i would have preferred to remove mx checks and format checks on webmail ie
disable only for those emails that originate from my server, but this is
NOT POSSIBLE, i could only disable mx check / format checks for the entire
server which is not what i wanted

so the only solution i found was to enable
#define CHKUSER_STARTING_VARIABLE CHKUSER_START

and then recompile qmail toaster as per instructions given here

http://wiki.qmailtoaster.org/index.php/Chkuser

during the process is highly recommended that you keep the sleep time to
around 10 or 15 mins ie 600 or 900 seconds so that you can relax and do
what you need to do.

important points
when you do recompilation all folders under /var/qmail including the queue
seems to have been modified.

ensure that after you recompile, be sure to modify the tcp.smtp file and
recompile the cdb as per new chkuser settings

once again thanks to everybody

rajesh



 On 04/06/2010 12:00 PM, Rajesh M wrote:
 thanks very much jake

 one very important point

 will this recompilation also reinstall / recreate the qmail queue which
 is
 the most scary part ?

 rajesh



 It should not wipe out the current queue, but you would want to stop
 inbound smtp services to allow the queue to clear out before performing
 this anyway, just to make sure you do not remove anything that you wish
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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Istvan Köpe
The traffic is low, about 100 mails / 24h. Although the hardware is 
pretty weak, but for this load I guess it should be enough:


top - 15:56:55 up  3:09,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Tasks: 127 total,   1 running, 126 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,100.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  
0.0%st

Mem:255436k total,   239236k used,16200k free,18532k buffers
Swap:   522104k total,17992k used,   504112k free,29552k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
 4245 root  15   0  2336 1040  800 R  0.7  0.4   0:00.11 top
1 root  15   0  2072  628  540 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.44 init
2 root  RT  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 migration/0
3 root  39  19 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
4 root  RT  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 watchdog/0
5 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 events/0
6 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 khelper
7 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kthread
   10 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.02 kblockd/0
   11 root  20  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kacpid
   83 root  20  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 cqueue/0
   86 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 khubd
   88 root  10  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kseriod
  149 root  15   0 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.03 pdflush


On 11.04.2010 13:45, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

That sounds like something else then.
Connect from localhost, at the very least, should be fast.

Is there already a lot of traffic on the system? What's the load of the smtp 
process?
Is there a chance that there is a large number of concurrent smtp connections 
already?

Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:58 schrieb Istvan Köpe:

   

Sending mail takes long. Connecting from telnet(from anywhere) takes long. 
Receiving mail(POP3) is fast.
After hitting enter after telnet, I have the prompt instantly, but it takes 
about 30 sec to get the welcome message.

I.

On 11.04.2010 12:44, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 

Just to get this clear, it is not sending or receiving that takes so long, but 
your actual connection attempt via telnet takes that long?
E.g. from hitting enter after 'telnet 127.0.0.1 25' to the prompt coming on?

Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:41 schrieb Istvan Köpe:


   

The reverse DNS will be set in the next few days.
I also removed everything form blacklists. Even if I change in the simcontrol 
clam=no,spam=no and I do telnet 127.0.0.1 25 it takes 30s

What does telnet 127.0.0.1 25 has to do with DNS or reverse DNS?

I.

On 11.04.2010 12:29, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

 

Hi there,

Reverse lookup on your IP is not possible yet?
That would be a VERY bad idea for any mail server.
It is highly likely that in addition to slow performance, a lot of recipients 
would block your outgoing mails as phishing or spam.

Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:20 schrieb Istvan Köpe:



   

The reverse DNS is not set yet. Can this be a reason for the slow response?

I.

On 11.04.2010 11:33, Istvan Köpe wrote:


 

Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 according to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait about 30sec to 
send a blank message, no matter if you connect from LAN or from the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, no change.
The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.

Thanks!

Istvan

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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Istvan Köpe
I installed Centos minimal configuration, without any additional options 
selected. Than I installed only what is required to install according to 
wiki, with bind as caching nameserver. After that I installed QTP and ntop.

I guess spamdyke is not part of default setup and I didn't install it.
I looked at the logs in messages and smtp. Both are clean. I don't have 
errors, just delays. Where else should I look?


What kind of additional info do you need, to be able to help?

I.

On 11.04.2010 14:35, Postmaster wrote:

You have given very little information.
Did you install spamdyke? - this is a delay variable in the config file
Have you looked into logs?

Regards
Alex


On 11/04/2010 10:58, Istvan Köpe wrote:
Sending mail takes long. Connecting from telnet(from anywhere) takes 
long. Receiving mail(POP3) is fast.
After hitting enter after telnet, I have the prompt instantly, but it 
takes about 30 sec to get the welcome message.


I.

On 11.04.2010 12:44, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
Just to get this clear, it is not sending or receiving that takes so 
long, but your actual connection attempt via telnet takes that long?
E.g. from hitting enter after 'telnet 127.0.0.1 25' to the prompt 
coming on?


Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:41 schrieb Istvan Köpe:


The reverse DNS will be set in the next few days.
I also removed everything form blacklists. Even if I change in the 
simcontrol clam=no,spam=no and I do telnet 127.0.0.1 25 it takes 30s


What does telnet 127.0.0.1 25 has to do with DNS or reverse DNS?

I.

On 11.04.2010 12:29, Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

Hi there,

Reverse lookup on your IP is not possible yet?
That would be a VERY bad idea for any mail server.
It is highly likely that in addition to slow performance, a lot of 
recipients would block your outgoing mails as phishing or spam.


Martin

Am 11.04.2010 um 11:20 schrieb Istvan Köpe:


The reverse DNS is not set yet. Can this be a reason for the slow 
response?


I.

On 11.04.2010 11:33, Istvan Köpe wrote:


Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 
according to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait 
about 30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect 
from LAN or from the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I 
telnet 127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with 
djbdns, no change.
The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 
forwarded.

I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.

Thanks!

Istvan

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Re: [qmailtoaster] fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Jake Vickers

On 04/11/2010 04:33 AM, Istvan Köpe wrote:

Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 
according to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait about 
30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from LAN or 
from the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, no 
change.

The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.


Slow connects are usually do due to DNS lookups. You may have a RBL that 
is taking a long time to respond (or is timing out) that is causing the 
delay.
If this started after installing Spamdyke, remove it until you can 
determine what the issue actually is.


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[qmailtoaster] example.com

2010-04-11 Thread Rajesh M
hi

i was testing a bit

using webmail ie squirrelmail i composed an email and sent to

hotmail.com
(i understand that is not a complete email id)

i had disable chkuser checks for webmail (and i was testing the email
system) so the email was accepted

i was expecting the email to bounce back but it did not

i checked the queue and found that email was stuck in queue with the
headers modified as such which is a bit puzzling

From   host...@corpmailserver.net
To  hotmail@example.com
SentSun, 11 Apr 2010 21:05:59 +0545 (NPT)
Subject test


i need some help please, in understand from where example.com came into
the picture.

i would rather have such emails bounced back immediately.

thanks

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Re: [qmailtoaster] example.com

2010-04-11 Thread Jake Vickers

On 04/11/2010 11:29 AM, Rajesh M wrote:

hi

i was testing a bit

using webmail ie squirrelmail i composed an email and sent to

hotmail.com
(i understand that is not a complete email id)

i had disable chkuser checks for webmail (and i was testing the email
system) so the email was accepted

i was expecting the email to bounce back but it did not

i checked the queue and found that email was stuck in queue with the
headers modified as such which is a bit puzzling

 From   host...@corpmailserver.net
To  hotmail@example.com
SentSun, 11 Apr 2010 21:05:59 +0545 (NPT)
Subject test


i need some help please, in understand from where example.com came into
the picture.

i would rather have such emails bounced back immediately.

thanks

rajesh

   


You did not enter a full address, so Qmail added the domain on the end 
fromt he defaultdomain file.
It did not bounce back because you told it to not check for valid 
addresses anymore - what did you expect?


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[qmailtoaster] Re: fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Eric Shubert

Jake Vickers wrote:

On 04/11/2010 04:33 AM, Istvan Köpe wrote:

Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 
according to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait about 
30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from LAN or 
from the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, no 
change.

The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.


Slow connects are usually do due to DNS lookups. You may have a RBL that 
is taking a long time to respond (or is timing out) that is causing the 
delay.
If this started after installing Spamdyke, remove it until you can 
determine what the issue actually is.




I'll second that.
What's in your /etc/resolv.conf file?
Do you have caching-nameserver package installed?

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[qmailtoaster] Re: disable mx check in chkuser

2010-04-11 Thread Eric Shubert

Rajesh M wrote:

hello allo

thanks to all for your help

recompiling qmail-toaster*.src.rpm for making changes in chkuser

my requirement was as such

when my clients use webmail and send emails to say around 50 or 100 users
and even if one of the recepients had a bad email id like a spelling
mistake in their domain name or email formatting, then the entire email
used to fail

this was pretty annoying because the error message simply used to say : no
valid mx or invalid format, without mentioning exactly which email id is
at fault

i would have preferred to remove mx checks and format checks on webmail ie
disable only for those emails that originate from my server, but this is
NOT POSSIBLE, i could only disable mx check / format checks for the entire
server which is not what i wanted

so the only solution i found was to enable
#define CHKUSER_STARTING_VARIABLE CHKUSER_START

and then recompile qmail toaster as per instructions given here

http://wiki.qmailtoaster.org/index.php/Chkuser

during the process is highly recommended that you keep the sleep time to
around 10 or 15 mins ie 600 or 900 seconds so that you can relax and do
what you need to do.

important points
when you do recompilation all folders under /var/qmail including the queue
seems to have been modified.

ensure that after you recompile, be sure to modify the tcp.smtp file and
recompile the cdb as per new chkuser settings

once again thanks to everybody

rajesh




That's interesting, Rajesh.
I'm not real clear though how this solved your problem. Can you post 
your tcp.smtp file for reference?


I would have though you could have turned of MX checks globally, then 
turned them on selectively in your tcp.smtp file. Perhaps that's what yo 
did. I don't see how the CHKUSER_START variable helped your situation.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Istvan Köpe

caching-nameserver is installed and it works.
The resolv.conf is:
nameserver 127.0.0.1

The domain names are resolved.

How can I know if spamdyke is installed, because I didn't install it?

I.
On 11.04.2010 20:14, Eric Shubert wrote:

Jake Vickers wrote:

On 04/11/2010 04:33 AM, Istvan Köpe wrote:

Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 
according to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait 
about 30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from 
LAN or from the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, 
no change.

The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.


Slow connects are usually do due to DNS lookups. You may have a RBL 
that is taking a long time to respond (or is timing out) that is 
causing the delay.
If this started after installing Spamdyke, remove it until you can 
determine what the issue actually is.




I'll second that.
What's in your /etc/resolv.conf file?
Do you have caching-nameserver package installed?




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Re: [qmailtoaster] clamav-toaster and squirrelmail-toaster updated

2010-04-11 Thread Catalin Leanca

Install on CentOS 5.4
When building i used rpmbuid --rebuild --with cnt50 clamav
No modification of spec file.
The problem is freshclam.conf file that came with this new release.
Line 8 and line 17 have to be modified as pointed earlier.


On 4/11/10 6:43 AM, Jake Vickers wrote:

On 04/10/2010 08:09 PM, Jake Vickers wrote:

On 04/10/2010 10:04 AM, Catalin Leanca wrote:

I got the following error:

[r...@mx log]# rpm -Uhv 
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/clamav-toaster-0.96.0-1.3.34.i386.rpm
Preparing...
### [100%]
   1:clamav-toaster 
### [100%]
error: %post(clamav-toaster-0.96.0-1.3.34.i386) scriptlet failed, 
exit status 1


I think this is caused by the broken freshclam.conf that's in the 
package.

Solution: Comment line 8 and uncomment line 17.
   Also modify line 17 to UpdateLogFile 
/var/log/clamav/freshclam.log



Worked fine here. Care to share some details? OS? New 
install/upgrade? Switches used when building? Did you modify the spec 
file?

Otherwise you did not give me anything to review or research.


Shooting in the dark (and making some guesses), I was able to 
reproduce the issue.
From initial analysis, it seems the routine that does not start 
freshclam if it's in a sandbox for qtp-newmodel is causing the post 
script to fail. You can probably safely ignore this for now - I will 
work on a fix tomorrow and get a new release out in the next day or two.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Istvan Köpe

This is my only hint that the problem might be related to reverse DNS:
http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg03155.html

Now I'm thinking maybe I need to set a port forwarding for port 53 
TCP/UDP on the ADSL router...


I.

On 11.04.2010 21:33, Istvan Köpe wrote:

caching-nameserver is installed and it works.
The resolv.conf is:
nameserver 127.0.0.1

The domain names are resolved.

How can I know if spamdyke is installed, because I didn't install it?

I.
On 11.04.2010 20:14, Eric Shubert wrote:

Jake Vickers wrote:

On 04/11/2010 04:33 AM, Istvan Köpe wrote:

Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 
according to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait 
about 30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from 
LAN or from the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, 
no change.
The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 
forwarded.

I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.


Slow connects are usually do due to DNS lookups. You may have a RBL 
that is taking a long time to respond (or is timing out) that is 
causing the delay.
If this started after installing Spamdyke, remove it until you can 
determine what the issue actually is.




I'll second that.
What's in your /etc/resolv.conf file?
Do you have caching-nameserver package installed?




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Re: [qmailtoaster] clamav-toaster and squirrelmail-toaster updated

2010-04-11 Thread Jake Vickers

On 04/11/2010 03:28 PM, Catalin Leanca wrote:

Install on CentOS 5.4
When building i used rpmbuid --rebuild --with cnt50 clamav
No modification of spec file.
The problem is freshclam.conf file that came with this new release.
Line 8 and line 17 have to be modified as pointed earlier.


Thanks for the information.
There were some changes that needed to be made. Try the package I just 
placed online and see if this resolves your issue.

Thanks.

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[qmailtoaster] Re: fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Eric Shubert

Istvan Köpe wrote:

caching-nameserver is installed and it works.
The resolv.conf is:
nameserver 127.0.0.1

The domain names are resolved.


Yes, but how quickly? New names, not cached ones.


How can I know if spamdyke is installed, because I didn't install it?


You would need to run qtp-install-spamdyke in order to install it. It's 
not installed by default (as of the present release). When it's 
installed, it will be referenced in your /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run file.



I.
On 11.04.2010 20:14, Eric Shubert wrote:

Jake Vickers wrote:

On 04/11/2010 04:33 AM, Istvan Köpe wrote:

Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 
according to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait 
about 30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from 
LAN or from the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with djbdns, 
no change.

The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 forwarded.
I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.


Slow connects are usually do due to DNS lookups. You may have a RBL 
that is taking a long time to respond (or is timing out) that is 
causing the delay.
If this started after installing Spamdyke, remove it until you can 
determine what the issue actually is.




I'll second that.
What's in your /etc/resolv.conf file?
Do you have caching-nameserver package installed?




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[qmailtoaster] Re: fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Eric Shubert

Istvan Köpe wrote:

This is my only hint that the problem might be related to reverse DNS:
http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg03155.html 


http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg03156.html 
is a good follow-up post.


Now I'm thinking maybe I need to set a port forwarding for port 53 
TCP/UDP on the ADSL router...


I don't believe that'll do it. Doing this would serve to open up your 
resolver to outside requests.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Istvan Köpe

The speed of the DNS is ok:
;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2  google.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47613
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 6, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;google.com.IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
google.com. 300 IN  A   74.125.87.103
google.com. 300 IN  A   74.125.87.104
google.com. 300 IN  A   74.125.87.105
google.com. 300 IN  A   74.125.87.106
google.com. 300 IN  A   74.125.87.147
google.com. 300 IN  A   74.125.87.99

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
google.com. 112085  IN  NS  ns3.google.com.
google.com. 112085  IN  NS  ns4.google.com.
google.com. 112085  IN  NS  ns1.google.com.
google.com. 112085  IN  NS  ns2.google.com.

;; Query time: 108 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Mon Apr 12 08:38:46 2010
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 196



On 12.04.2010 02:25, Eric Shubert wrote:

Istvan Köpe wrote:

caching-nameserver is installed and it works.
The resolv.conf is:
nameserver 127.0.0.1

The domain names are resolved.


Yes, but how quickly? New names, not cached ones.


How can I know if spamdyke is installed, because I didn't install it?


You would need to run qtp-install-spamdyke in order to install it. 
It's not installed by default (as of the present release). When it's 
installed, it will be referenced in your /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run 
file.



I.
On 11.04.2010 20:14, Eric Shubert wrote:

Jake Vickers wrote:

On 04/11/2010 04:33 AM, Istvan Köpe wrote:

Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 
according to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait 
about 30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from 
LAN or from the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with 
djbdns, no change.
The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 
forwarded.

I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.


Slow connects are usually do due to DNS lookups. You may have a RBL 
that is taking a long time to respond (or is timing out) that is 
causing the delay.
If this started after installing Spamdyke, remove it until you can 
determine what the issue actually is.




I'll second that.
What's in your /etc/resolv.conf file?
Do you have caching-nameserver package installed?




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: fresh installation smtp slow

2010-04-11 Thread Istvan Köpe

spamdyke is not installed.

On 12.04.2010 02:25, Eric Shubert wrote:

Istvan Köpe wrote:

caching-nameserver is installed and it works.
The resolv.conf is:
nameserver 127.0.0.1

The domain names are resolved.


Yes, but how quickly? New names, not cached ones.


How can I know if spamdyke is installed, because I didn't install it?


You would need to run qtp-install-spamdyke in order to install it. 
It's not installed by default (as of the present release). When it's 
installed, it will be referenced in your /var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run 
file.



I.
On 11.04.2010 20:14, Eric Shubert wrote:

Jake Vickers wrote:

On 04/11/2010 04:33 AM, Istvan Köpe wrote:

Hello,

Yesterday I installed a fresh Qmail Toaster box on Centos 5.4 
according to wiki.
The box works fine, but the SMTP is very slow. You have to wait 
about 30sec to send a blank message, no matter if you connect from 
LAN or from the internet.
I have the same response if I telnet on port 25. Even if I telnet 
127.0.0.1 25
I setup bind as caching-nameserver, no change. I tried with 
djbdns, no change.
The server is behind an ADSL router with ports 22, 25 and 80 
forwarded.

I also tried putting the server in DMZ, no change.

I out of ideas. I don't know where to look for the problem.

Please give me a clue.


Slow connects are usually do due to DNS lookups. You may have a RBL 
that is taking a long time to respond (or is timing out) that is 
causing the delay.
If this started after installing Spamdyke, remove it until you can 
determine what the issue actually is.




I'll second that.
What's in your /etc/resolv.conf file?
Do you have caching-nameserver package installed?




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Re: [qmailtoaster] clamav-toaster and squirrelmail-toaster updated

2010-04-11 Thread Aleksander Podsiadły
Dnia 2010-04-11, nie o godzinie 17:17 -0400, Jake Vickers pisze:
 On 04/11/2010 03:28 PM, Catalin Leanca wrote:
  Install on CentOS 5.4
  When building i used rpmbuid --rebuild --with cnt50 clamav
  No modification of spec file.
  The problem is freshclam.conf file that came with this new release.
  Line 8 and line 17 have to be modified as pointed earlier.
 
 Thanks for the information.
 There were some changes that needed to be made. Try the package I
 just 
 placed online and see if this resolves your issue.
 Thanks. 

And one more, I think in the post install script should be added line:
service qmail cdb


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