Re: [qmailtoaster] sending out newsletters using qmailtoaster

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch

Am 06.07.2010 um 22:55 schrieb Tonix (Antonio Nati):
 Also note that, if you send one mail to 50 recipients, this will result in 
 50 individual items in the queue. As long as but one of these items is still 
 unsent, qmailctl queue will list all 50 items as still being in the queue 
 but will indicate with each item if said item has been sent. Once all items 
 belonging to the message have been sent, they'll all no longer be shown in 
 the queue. Is that the behavior you see when saying some messages need a 
 long time to send?
 
   
 If I send to 50 recipients on the same remote domain, I will have 50 
 connections opened to the same remote server...
 So, if remote server has limit on new connections, some deliveries will abort 
 and retry nextly.

Very true. You could use your number of concurrent connections more effectively 
when each was used to transmit more than one message. But of course this (if 
anyone actually were to rewrite the way qmail's queuing works) would only be a 
relief and eliminate the problem: Depending on the allowed chunk size (messages 
per session allowed for a given target domain) and the number of messages sent 
to that domain, you might still end up being 'tarpit'ed.
But I guess the whole discussion is a moot point in so far as there is (afaik) 
no such patch for qmail in existence.

Martin
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[qmailtoaster] Dynamic IP rejection notices

2010-07-07 Thread Mike Canty
To all,
I have just set up another (that makes 5) Qmail Toaster
installations (I love this product), but this one is the first that has a
dynamic IP.

Apart for a few issues, which have been resolved, I am now getting
rejections due to the Dynamic IP and Spam sites.

What can I do to stop this.  Please see the rejection message below.


Hi. This is the qmail-send program at msrvprl.domainname.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following  
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

i...@recipient.com.:
User and password not set, continuing without authentication.
196.41.124.15 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 554 5.7.1 dsl-240-15-122.telkomadsl.co.za 
[41.240.15.122]: Client host rejected: ADSLDIRECT 27 you must relay  
your mail through your upstream provider if you are connected via an  
ADSL line with a dynamic ip
Giving up on 196.41.124.15.


Cheers



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Dynamic IP rejection notices

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Hi Mike,

I am afraid you will probably not have much luck with this. A dynamic IP 
address will make lots of ISPs think you are a spammer and the only way I know 
to avoid this is to sign up for a fixed IP address.

Martin

Am 07.07.2010 um 09:34 schrieb Mike Canty:

 To all,
   I have just set up another (that makes 5) Qmail Toaster
 installations (I love this product), but this one is the first that has a
 dynamic IP.
 
 Apart for a few issues, which have been resolved, I am now getting
 rejections due to the Dynamic IP and Spam sites.
 
 What can I do to stop this.  Please see the rejection message below.
 
 
 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at msrvprl.domainname.com.
 I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following  
 addresses.
 This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
 
 i...@recipient.com.:
 User and password not set, continuing without authentication.
 196.41.124.15 does not like recipient.
 Remote host said: 554 5.7.1 dsl-240-15-122.telkomadsl.co.za 
 [41.240.15.122]: Client host rejected: ADSLDIRECT 27 you must relay  
 your mail through your upstream provider if you are connected via an  
 ADSL line with a dynamic ip
 Giving up on 196.41.124.15.
 
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] sending out newsletters using qmailtoaster

2010-07-07 Thread karpaha vinayaham
I would like to share my view on this topic

For example, if you send 50 emails to yahoo domain, as per my knowledge
qmail takes 50 connections to same remote server and delivers the message.
Of-course yahoo limits the connection from single IP.
So what i want to add here is, if there is 50 emails. As yahoo has many
backup MX servers, what qmail has to do is
it should check for the secondary mx servers and delivers message like
10 emails on each server.



With Regards
Vinay


On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Martin Waschbuesch
mar...@waschbuesch.dewrote:


 Am 06.07.2010 um 22:55 schrieb Tonix (Antonio Nati):
  Also note that, if you send one mail to 50 recipients, this will result
 in 50 individual items in the queue. As long as but one of these items is
 still unsent, qmailctl queue will list all 50 items as still being in the
 queue but will indicate with each item if said item has been sent. Once all
 items belonging to the message have been sent, they'll all no longer be
 shown in the queue. Is that the behavior you see when saying some messages
 need a long time to send?
 
 
  If I send to 50 recipients on the same remote domain, I will have 50
 connections opened to the same remote server...
  So, if remote server has limit on new connections, some deliveries will
 abort and retry nextly.

 Very true. You could use your number of concurrent connections more
 effectively when each was used to transmit more than one message. But of
 course this (if anyone actually were to rewrite the way qmail's queuing
 works) would only be a relief and eliminate the problem: Depending on the
 allowed chunk size (messages per session allowed for a given target domain)
 and the number of messages sent to that domain, you might still end up being
 'tarpit'ed.
 But I guess the whole discussion is a moot point in so far as there is
 (afaik) no such patch for qmail in existence.

 Martin

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[qmailtoaster] Re: Dynamic IP rejection notices

2010-07-07 Thread Eric Shubert
Right. I use (and recommend) DynDNS's Mailhop Outbound service. It's 
very reliable, and quite affordable provided you don't do large mailing 
lists.

http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound.html
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Amit wrote:

Hi Mike,

Use smarthost to relay your mail. That should solve your problem.

Regards,

Amit

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Mike Canty m...@collotype.com.au 
mailto:m...@collotype.com.au wrote:


To all,
   I have just set up another (that makes 5) Qmail Toaster
installations (I love this product), but this one is the first that
has a
dynamic IP.

Apart for a few issues, which have been resolved, I am now getting
rejections due to the Dynamic IP and Spam sites.

What can I do to stop this.  Please see the rejection message below.


Hi. This is the qmail-send program at msrvprl.domainname.com
http://msrvprl.domainname.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

i...@recipient.com mailto:i...@recipient.com.:
User and password not set, continuing without authentication.
196.41.124.15 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 554 5.7.1 dsl-240-15-122.telkomadsl.co.za
http://dsl-240-15-122.telkomadsl.co.za
[41.240.15.122]: Client host rejected: ADSLDIRECT 27 you must relay
your mail through your upstream provider if you are connected via an
ADSL line with a dynamic ip
Giving up on 196.41.124.15.


Cheers




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[qmailtoaster] Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Amit Dalia
Hi everyone,

I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta version
of vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail
but stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:

Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
error: Failed build dependencies:
    vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm

Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.

Regards,

Amit



Re: [qmailtoaster] Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
I guess you skipped the current vpopmail-toaster package and manually built 
vpopmail 5.5.0 from vpopmail source (inter7)?

If so, you should be aware that manually compiling vpopmail will not tell the 
RPM based system that a package called vpopmail-toaster is installed on the 
system and therefore the build requirements for the qmail-toaster package fail.

Martin


Am 07.07.2010 um 19:13 schrieb Amit Dalia:

 Hi everyone,
 
 I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta version of 
 vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail but stuck 
 while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:
 
 Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
 warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
 warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
 error: Failed build dependencies:
 vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
 error: File not found by glob: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
 error: File not found by glob: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
 
 Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Amit


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[qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Eric Shubert

Amit Dalia wrote:

Hi everyone,

I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta version of 
vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail but 
stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:


Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
error: Failed build dependencies:
vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by 
qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386

error: File not found by glob: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
error: File not found by glob: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm

Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.


Regards,

Amit


It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and 
install the 5.5 version.


If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually (prototype/test 
sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the qmail-toaster.spec 
file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
PS: What you can do is edit the .spec file for qmail-toaster package and remove 
'vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17' from the line that says

Requires: some.other.package, vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17

Martin

Am 07.07.2010 um 19:13 schrieb Amit Dalia:

 Hi everyone,
 
 I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta version of 
 vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail but stuck 
 while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:
 
 Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
 warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
 warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
 error: Failed build dependencies:
 vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
 error: File not found by glob: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
 error: File not found by glob: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
 
 Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Amit


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Amit Dalia
Yes Martin I compiled it from source. This mean either I have to make
a rpm file of vpopmail 5.5.0 or I have to configure complete qmail
from source.

Hmmm. :(

Anyway thanks Martin. 

Regards,

Amit

At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:49 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

I guess you skipped the current vpopmail-toaster package and manually
built vpopmail 5.5.0 from vpopmail source (inter7)?

If so, you should be aware that manually compiling vpopmail will not
tell the RPM based system that a package called vpopmail-toaster is
installed on the system and therefore the build requirements for the
qmail-toaster package fail.

Martin

Am 07.07.2010 um 19:13 schrieb Amit Dalia:

Hi everyone,

I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta version
of vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail
but stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:

Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
error: Failed build dependencies:
    vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm

Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.

Regards,

Amit

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[qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Amit Dalia
Hi Eric,
Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much
changes need to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail
5.5.0.

Regards,

Amit

At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:

Amit Dalia wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
version of 
 vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail
but 
 stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:
 
 Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
 warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
 warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
 error: Failed build dependencies:
 vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by 
 qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
 error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
 error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
 
 Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Amit

It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and 
install the 5.5 version.

If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually
(prototype/test 
sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the qmail-toaster.spec

file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Does it have to be the development branch of vpopmail?

I expect that using the stable branch (5.4.30 is the current version) would be 
easier to integrate with the existing vpopmail-toaster package...

Martin

Am 07.07.2010 um 19:26 schrieb Amit Dalia:

 Hi Eric,
 Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much changes 
 need to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail 5.5.0.
 
 Regards,
 
 Amit
 
 At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
 Amit Dalia wrote:
  Hi everyone,
  
  I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta version of 
  vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail but 
  stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:
  
  Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
  warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
  warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
  error: Failed build dependencies:
  vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by 
  qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
  error: File not found by glob: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
  error: File not found by glob: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
  
  Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
  
  
  Regards,
  
  Amit
 
 It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and 
 install the 5.5 version.
 
 If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually (prototype/test 
 sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the qmail-toaster.spec 
 file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Very true.
It's just that I could very quickly update the vpopmail-toaster package to 
5.4.30. I would not want to touch 5.5.x though - as Amit pointed out, a lot of 
things changed...

Am 07.07.2010 um 19:55 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 I expect that's true, but where's the fun in that?? ;)
 
 Seriously though, I'm glad to see someone trying the 5.5 branch. My 
 understanding is that a) it has improvements in the LDAP area, and b) quotas 
 are finally fixed.
 
 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Does it have to be the development branch of vpopmail?
 I expect that using the stable branch (5.4.30 is the current version) would 
 be easier to integrate with the existing vpopmail-toaster package...
 Martin
 Am 07.07.2010 um 19:26 schrieb Amit Dalia:
 Hi Eric,
 Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much changes 
 need to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail 5.5.0.
 
 Regards,
 
 Amit
 
 At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
 
Amit Dalia wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
version of
 vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail
but
 stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:

 Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
 warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
 warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
 error: Failed build dependencies:
 vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
 qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
 error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
 error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm

 Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.


 Regards,

 Amit
 
It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and
install the 5.5 version.
 
If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually
(prototype/test
sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the qmail-toaster.spec
file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.
 
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[qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Eric Shubert

Amit,

Modifying the spec file is really pretty easy once you get the hang of 
it. If you'd like, we can assist you with that.


Please start a new thread on the devel list, and we'll go from there.

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Amit Dalia wrote:

Hi Eric,
Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much 
changes need to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail 5.5.0.


Regards,

Amit

At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:

Amit Dalia wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
version of
  vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail but
  stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:
 
  Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
  warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
  warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
  error: Failed build dependencies:
  vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
  qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
  error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
  error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
 
  Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Amit

It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and
install the 5.5 version.

If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually
(prototype/test
sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the qmail-toaster.spec
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
In the meantime I just updated the package to 5.4.30... ;-) Giving it a try as 
we speak - there seem to have been numerous patches since 5.4.17 (stock QMT)...


Am 07.07.2010 um 19:56 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 Amit,
 
 Modifying the spec file is really pretty easy once you get the hang of it. If 
 you'd like, we can assist you with that.
 
 Please start a new thread on the devel list, and we'll go from there.
 
 -- 
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 Amit Dalia wrote:
 Hi Eric,
 Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much changes 
 need to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail 5.5.0.
 Regards,
 Amit
 At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
Amit Dalia wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
version of
  vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail but
  stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:
 
  Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
  warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
  warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
  error: Failed build dependencies:
  vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
  qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
  error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
  error: File not found by glob:
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
 
  Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Amit
It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and
install the 5.5 version.
If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually
(prototype/test
sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the qmail-toaster.spec
file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.
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[qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Eric Shubert
IIRC, there are MySQL database changes required for that jump. I think I 
may have written a script to do that. Would you like me to check what I 
have on that?


Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

In the meantime I just updated the package to 5.4.30... ;-) Giving it a try as 
we speak - there seem to have been numerous patches since 5.4.17 (stock QMT)...


Am 07.07.2010 um 19:56 schrieb Eric Shubert:


Amit,

Modifying the spec file is really pretty easy once you get the hang of it. If 
you'd like, we can assist you with that.

Please start a new thread on the devel list, and we'll go from there.

--
-Eric 'shubes'

Amit Dalia wrote:

Hi Eric,
Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much changes need 
to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail 5.5.0.
Regards,
Amit
At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
   Amit Dalia wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
   version of
 vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail but
 stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:

 Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
 warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
 warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
 error: Failed build dependencies:
 vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
 qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
 error: File not found by glob:
   /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
 error: File not found by glob:
   /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm

 Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.


 Regards,

 Amit
   It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and
   install the 5.5 version.
   If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually
   (prototype/test
   sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the qmail-toaster.spec
   file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.
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[qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Eric Shubert
Yeah, but it's not simply a matter of going to 5.4.30. It's also a 
matter of switching from MySQL to LDAP for the backend. That's a big 
change (if not bigger) as well.


Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

Very true.
It's just that I could very quickly update the vpopmail-toaster package to 
5.4.30. I would not want to touch 5.5.x though - as Amit pointed out, a lot of 
things changed...

Am 07.07.2010 um 19:55 schrieb Eric Shubert:


I expect that's true, but where's the fun in that?? ;)

Seriously though, I'm glad to see someone trying the 5.5 branch. My 
understanding is that a) it has improvements in the LDAP area, and b) quotas 
are finally fixed.

Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

Does it have to be the development branch of vpopmail?
I expect that using the stable branch (5.4.30 is the current version) would be 
easier to integrate with the existing vpopmail-toaster package...
Martin
Am 07.07.2010 um 19:26 schrieb Amit Dalia:

Hi Eric,
Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much changes need 
to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail 5.5.0.

Regards,

Amit

At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:

   Amit Dalia wrote:
Hi everyone,
   
I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
   version of
vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail
   but
stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:
   
Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
error: Failed build dependencies:
vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
error: File not found by glob:
   /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
error: File not found by glob:
   /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
   
Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
   
   
Regards,
   
Amit

   It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and
   install the 5.5 version.

   If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually
   (prototype/test
   sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the qmail-toaster.spec
   file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.

   -- -Eric 'shubes'


   
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
That would be very good! :-)

Thanks a lot,

Martin

Am 07.07.2010 um 20:22 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 IIRC, there are MySQL database changes required for that jump. I think I may 
 have written a script to do that. Would you like me to check what I have on 
 that?
 
 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 In the meantime I just updated the package to 5.4.30... ;-) Giving it a try 
 as we speak - there seem to have been numerous patches since 5.4.17 (stock 
 QMT)...
 Am 07.07.2010 um 19:56 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 Amit,
 
 Modifying the spec file is really pretty easy once you get the hang of it. 
 If you'd like, we can assist you with that.
 
 Please start a new thread on the devel list, and we'll go from there.
 
 -- 
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 Amit Dalia wrote:
 Hi Eric,
 Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much changes 
 need to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail 5.5.0.
 Regards,
 Amit
 At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
   Amit Dalia wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
   version of
 vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail but
 stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:

 Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
 warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
 warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
 error: Failed build dependencies:
 vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
 qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
 error: File not found by glob:
   /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
 error: File not found by glob:
   /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm

 Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.


 Regards,

 Amit
   It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and
   install the 5.5 version.
   If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually
   (prototype/test
   sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the qmail-toaster.spec
   file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.
   -- -Eric 'shubes'
   
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Martin Waschbuesch
Oh, I understand, but 5.4.x has some (albeit limited I understand) LDAP support 
and 5.4.30 seems to have some things backported from 5.5.0 to allow for *some* 
more interoperability.

Of course, switching from mysql to ldap is a far bigger thing as far as I can 
tell.

Martin

Am 07.07.2010 um 20:24 schrieb Eric Shubert:

 Yeah, but it's not simply a matter of going to 5.4.30. It's also a matter of 
 switching from MySQL to LDAP for the backend. That's a big change (if not 
 bigger) as well.
 
 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Very true.
 It's just that I could very quickly update the vpopmail-toaster package to 
 5.4.30. I would not want to touch 5.5.x though - as Amit pointed out, a lot 
 of things changed...
 Am 07.07.2010 um 19:55 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 I expect that's true, but where's the fun in that?? ;)
 
 Seriously though, I'm glad to see someone trying the 5.5 branch. My 
 understanding is that a) it has improvements in the LDAP area, and b) 
 quotas are finally fixed.
 
 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 Does it have to be the development branch of vpopmail?
 I expect that using the stable branch (5.4.30 is the current version) 
 would be easier to integrate with the existing vpopmail-toaster package...
 Martin
 Am 07.07.2010 um 19:26 schrieb Amit Dalia:
 Hi Eric,
 Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much 
 changes need to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail 5.5.0.
 
 Regards,
 
 Amit
 
 At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
 
   Amit Dalia wrote:
Hi everyone,
   
I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
   version of
vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail
   but
stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:
   
Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
error: Failed build dependencies:
vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
error: File not found by glob:
   /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
error: File not found by glob:
   /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
   
Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
   
   
Regards,
   
Amit
 
   It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and
   install the 5.5 version.
 
   If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually
   (prototype/test
   sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the qmail-toaster.spec
   file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.
 
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[qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Eric Shubert
All you need to do is run the qtp-convert script, which can be run from 
the command line. The conversion process is already in there. :)
FWIW, qtp-newmodel runs the qtp-convert script automatically each time 
an upgrade is done. It's also run in the sandbox after all the packages 
are installed there, to be sure there aren't any problems.


Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

That would be very good! :-)

Thanks a lot,

Martin

Am 07.07.2010 um 20:22 schrieb Eric Shubert:


IIRC, there are MySQL database changes required for that jump. I think I may 
have written a script to do that. Would you like me to check what I have on 
that?

Martin Waschbuesch wrote:

In the meantime I just updated the package to 5.4.30... ;-) Giving it a try as 
we speak - there seem to have been numerous patches since 5.4.17 (stock QMT)...
Am 07.07.2010 um 19:56 schrieb Eric Shubert:

Amit,

Modifying the spec file is really pretty easy once you get the hang of it. If 
you'd like, we can assist you with that.

Please start a new thread on the devel list, and we'll go from there.

--
-Eric 'shubes'

Amit Dalia wrote:

Hi Eric,
Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are much changes need 
to be done as there are many changes made in vpopmail 5.5.0.
Regards,
Amit
At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
  Amit Dalia wrote:
Hi everyone,
   
I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
  version of
vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install vpopmail but
stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below error:
   
Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
error: Failed build dependencies:
vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
error: File not found by glob:
  /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
error: File not found by glob:
  /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
   
Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
   
   
Regards,
   
Amit
  It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build and
  install the 5.5 version.
  If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually
  (prototype/test
  sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the qmail-toaster.spec
  file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.
  -- -Eric 'shubes'
  
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[qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Amit Dalia
Hi Eric/Martin,

Sorry was gone out. Anyway some changes in vpopmail 5.5.0 is like
make compiling option are replaced like --enable-user is replaced by
--with-user. Most important --enable-auth-module is no more used. They
had started with backend module now, means now we need to compile
first with backend module which ever we required and then compile the
vpopmail.
And I'm beginner to LINUX world so don't know much, so surely will
need your all help.

Regards,

Amit 

At Thursday, 08-07-2010 on 0:28 Eric Shubert wrote:

All you need to do is run the qtp-convert script, which can be run
from 
the command line. The conversion process is already in there. :)
FWIW, qtp-newmodel runs the qtp-convert script automatically each
time 
an upgrade is done. It's also run in the sandbox after all the
packages 
are installed there, to be sure there aren't any problems.

Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 That would be very good! :-)
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 Martin
 
 Am 07.07.2010 um 20:22 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 
 IIRC, there are MySQL database changes required for that jump. I
think I may have written a script to do that. Would you like me to
check what I have on that?

 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 In the meantime I just updated the package to 5.4.30... ;-)
Giving it a try as we speak - there seem to have been numerous patches
since 5.4.17 (stock QMT)...
 Am 07.07.2010 um 19:56 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 Amit,

 Modifying the spec file is really pretty easy once you get the
hang of it. If you'd like, we can assist you with that.

 Please start a new thread on the devel list, and we'll go from
there.

 -- 
 -Eric 'shubes'

 Amit Dalia wrote:
 Hi Eric,
 Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are
much changes need to be done as there are many changes made in
vpopmail 5.5.0.
 Regards,
 Amit
 At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
 Amit Dalia wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
 version of
  vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install
vpopmail but
  stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below
error:
 
  Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
  warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
  warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
  error: Failed build dependencies:
  vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
  qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
  error: File not found by glob:
 /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
  error: File not found by glob:
 /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
 
  Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Amit
 It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build
and
 install the 5.5 version.
 If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually
 (prototype/test
 sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the
qmail-toaster.spec
 file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.
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[qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Amit Dalia
Anyway this is my development server where I'm trying Qmail + LDAP +
Dovecot + Amavisd

At Thursday, 08-07-2010 on 0:28 Eric Shubert wrote:

All you need to do is run the qtp-convert script, which can be run
from 
the command line. The conversion process is already in there. :)
FWIW, qtp-newmodel runs the qtp-convert script automatically each
time 
an upgrade is done. It's also run in the sandbox after all the
packages 
are installed there, to be sure there aren't any problems.

Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 That would be very good! :-)
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
 Martin
 
 Am 07.07.2010 um 20:22 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 
 IIRC, there are MySQL database changes required for that jump. I
think I may have written a script to do that. Would you like me to
check what I have on that?

 Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
 In the meantime I just updated the package to 5.4.30... ;-)
Giving it a try as we speak - there seem to have been numerous patches
since 5.4.17 (stock QMT)...
 Am 07.07.2010 um 19:56 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 Amit,

 Modifying the spec file is really pretty easy once you get the
hang of it. If you'd like, we can assist you with that.

 Please start a new thread on the devel list, and we'll go from
there.

 -- 
 -Eric 'shubes'

 Amit Dalia wrote:
 Hi Eric,
 Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are
much changes need to be done as there are many changes made in
vpopmail 5.5.0.
 Regards,
 Amit
 At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
 Amit Dalia wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
 version of
  vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install
vpopmail but
  stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below
error:
 
  Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
  warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
  warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
  error: Failed build dependencies:
  vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
  qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
  error: File not found by glob:
 /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
  error: File not found by glob:
 /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
 
  Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
 
 
  Regards,
 
  Amit
 It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to build
and
 install the 5.5 version.
 If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually
 (prototype/test
 sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the
qmail-toaster.spec
 file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.
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[qmailtoaster] Re: Qmail with LDAP

2010-07-07 Thread Eric Shubert
Very good, Amit. Strike up a thread on the qmail-devel list, and we'll 
continue there. We need to discuss how (if?) we're going to have an LDAP 
option with vpopmail-toaster. Personally, I'd love to see it, and will 
be glad to help out.


Amit Dalia wrote:
Anyway this is my development server where I'm trying Qmail + LDAP + 
Dovecot + Amavisd




At Thursday, 08-07-2010 on 0:28 Eric Shubert wrote:

All you need to do is run the qtp-convert script, which can be run from
the command line. The conversion process is already in there. :)
FWIW, qtp-newmodel runs the qtp-convert script automatically each time
an upgrade is done. It's also run in the sandbox after all the packages
are installed there, to be sure there aren't any problems.

Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
  That would be very good! :-)
 
  Thanks a lot,
 
  Martin
 
  Am 07.07.2010 um 20:22 schrieb Eric Shubert:
 
  IIRC, there are MySQL database changes required for that jump. I
think I may have written a script to do that. Would you like me to
check what I have on that?
 
  Martin Waschbuesch wrote:
  In the meantime I just updated the package to 5.4.30... ;-)
Giving it a try as we speak - there seem to have been numerous
patches since 5.4.17 (stock QMT)...
  Am 07.07.2010 um 19:56 schrieb Eric Shubert:
  Amit,
 
  Modifying the spec file is really pretty easy once you get the
hang of it. If you'd like, we can assist you with that.
 
  Please start a new thread on the devel list, and we'll go from
there.
 
  --
  -Eric 'shubes'
 
  Amit Dalia wrote:
  Hi Eric,
  Building vpopmail from spec file is good option but there are
much changes need to be done as there are many changes made in
vpopmail 5.5.0.
  Regards,
  Amit
  At Wednesday, 07-07-2010 on 22:50 Eric Shubert wrote:
  Amit Dalia wrote:
   Hi everyone,
  
   I was just trying to install qmail with LDAP support and beta
  version of
   vpopmail 5.5.0. I had successfully compiled and install
vpopmail but
   stuck while installing qmail-toaster package. Getting below
error:
  
   Installing qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.src.rpm
   warning: user shubes does not exist - using root
   warning: group shubes does not exist - using root
   error: Failed build dependencies:
   vpopmail-toaster = 5.4.17 is needed by
   qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.20.i386
   error: File not found by glob:
  /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-toaster*.rpm
   error: File not found by glob:
  /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/qmail-pop3d*.rpm
  
   Any help? I had already compiled and installed vpopmail.
  
  
   Regards,
  
   Amit
  It'd be best to modify the vpopmail-toaster.spec file to
build and
  install the 5.5 version.
  If you're just building and installing vpopmail manually
  (prototype/test
  sort of thing), it'd be easiest to simply edit the
qmail-toaster.spec
  file and remove/comment the vpopmail dependency.
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query

2010-07-07 Thread Rajesh M
hi eric

when the email arrives in the spam box its headers contained the
delivered to email id in the header so my script will know where to
which email id the message is to be delivered. so my concern about bcc is
resolved.

my second question is as such
which would be better
Simply move the email from the centralized spambox to the inbox of that
email id
Or use the qmail-queue program to reroute the message back to the queue
for delivery.

i don't want the email time stamps changed during this process.


thanks
rajesh


 Rajesh M wrote:
 Rajesh M wrote:
 hi

 the current system is such that all the emails that are spam (ie
 between
 5
 and 8) get tagged as spam in subject line and are are routed to the
 SPAM
 folder which can be viewed via squirrelmail

 my questions

 1) is it possible to route these to a common mailbox which will be
 monitored by a system admin

 2) if the mail is genuine spam then the it is left as it is

 3) if the email has been wrongly classified then the administrator
 will
 move the email to another folder say notspam and then it will be
 delivered
 to the recepient's inbox

 rajesh

 -
 Anything's possible. ;)

 This could be done I suppose. It sounds to me like you're talking about
 a centralized spambox. I'd look into the current spambox capability and
 see how to tweak it to do 1). 3) will take a bit of doing, but not
 much.
 A script could be written which would pipe emails in the notspam folder
 to the qmail-queue program for delivery, and remove them from the
 notspam folder.

 Personally, I'm not fond of the idea. Sounds to me like you're creating
 work for a sysadmin, which would be more appropriately done by the end
 user. I suppose it might be appropriate depending on your environment
 though.

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 hi

 thanks for the input

 how would such a script handle bcc ?

 rajesh

 -

 I'm not positive, but I think that bcc is no longer in play at that
 point, so there would be nothing to handle. Unless I'm misunderstanding
 your question. Please describe a scenario, and we can hash it out.

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[qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query

2010-07-07 Thread Eric Shubert

Rajesh M wrote:

hi eric

when the email arrives in the spam box its headers contained the
delivered to email id in the header so my script will know where to
which email id the message is to be delivered. so my concern about bcc is
resolved.



my second question is as such
which would be better


Define better. ;)


Simply move the email from the centralized spambox to the inbox of that
email id
Or use the qmail-queue program to reroute the message back to the queue
for delivery.


As usual, there's more than one way.


i don't want the email time stamps changed during this process.


Which time stamps are you referring to?

On further thinking about this, I wouldn't do either. If you have 
dovecot installed, I would use dovecot's deliver program. Otherwise, I'd 
use the maildrop program. You should realize though that at some point 
dovecot's lda (deliver) is likely going to replace maildrop. With either 
program, I don't expect you'd need to do any parsing of the message in 
your script - just pass it on to the lda. I could be wrong about this 
though.


You could move the file to the appropriate inbox yourself and I believe 
that would work, but using the lda would be 'better'. The lda really 
should know what's going into the mailbox, for indexing and quota purposes.


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