[qmailtoaster] Control use of forward?
Our school has several division level forwards set up, so if you want to send a piece of mail to everyone in the upper school you send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We would like for these forwards to only work for people with accounts on the server. I know I could set up a mailing list for everyone and then restrict who can post to that mailing list to only it's members, but this seems a bit complex and hard to manage as it would have to be changed everytime a new person comes and goes. Any suggestions? James -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School 704-943-4562 (office) 704-264-9359 (cell) - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Control use of forward?
Removing the user does not remove them from mailing lists or forwards. Nor does adding them add them to the global address list in Squirrelmail. I have written command line scripts that do all of this with a single adduser command. The problem is I can't do that with a mailing list. I suppose it's not that big a deal, but I thought there would be a universal way to set it and not have to deal with it for every user. James On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 08:45 -0400, Jake Vickers wrote: James F. Jarrett wrote: Our school has several division level forwards set up, so if you want to send a piece of mail to everyone in the upper school you send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We would like for these forwards to only work for people with accounts on the server. I know I could set up a mailing list for everyone and then restrict who can post to that mailing list to only it's members, but this seems a bit complex and hard to manage as it would have to be changed everytime a new person comes and goes. The mailing list. It's not that bad when a user is added or deleted. When you add a user, it will have a box at the bottom of the account creation screen that you can check what mailing lists you want the person on. I've never checked to see if deleting a user removes them from the list, but if the message bounces I believe they're removed anyway. -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School 704-943-4562 (office) 704-264-9359 (cell) - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.
A teacher at our school just came to me and said a student claimed to have sent her an e-mail that she did not receive. I did a search of the smtp log and found these entries: @400045f187171dd611b4 CHKUSER accepted sender: from :: remote mail1.ccds.charlotte.nc.us:unknown:10.64.6.9 rcpt : sender accepted @400045f187171e46b5a4 CHKUSER accepted rcpt: from xxx:: remote mail1.ccds.charlotte.nc.us:unknown:10.64.6.9 rcpt [EMAIL PROTECTED] : found existing recipient (The and are the student and teacher's email addresses respectively). I have two questions: 1: How do I turn this information into a *TIME* of attempted delivery. 2: The teacher says she never got the mail, how do I figure out what happened to it? Oddly enough, we were running an older version of the toaster, and we updated it to the current version that very evening (About 6:00 pm) but that was *AFTER* this took place. I only mention this as I had heard that the older version of the toaster we were running had much poorer logging than the new one, and is the main reason we updated. Thanks for any help. James -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.
Right I know, in my first message I said later that same day we updated to a newer version that does not delete silently. *BUT* I had (and have* domainkeys disabled! James On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:11 -0700, Erik A. Espinoza wrote: Please provide qmail-toaster versions: rpm -qa | grep toaster If I had to guess, you are running an old version of the qmail-toaster package with the bad qmail-dk, which rejected mail silently. We will be disabling qmail-dk by default altogether in the next release of the qmail-toaster package. It is just too broken. Erik On 3/22/07, James F. Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions: Here is what I have done: Verified (In /var/log/qmail/smtp) that the mail was received by the toster. Found *NO* other references to the student's e-mail address ANYWHERE in ANY of the log files other than that one, and there is nothing in the teacher's mail queue (tho that is not surprising as all our teachers download their mail with outlook). So I guess it just vanished... -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Help interpreting a qmail log.
Sorry, when I replied I didn't give you what you asked for.. vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.3.2 ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.2 autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.2 maildrop-toaster-2.0.3-1.3.4 ezmlm-cgi-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.2 qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.9-1.3.3 simscan-toaster-1.3.1-1.3.5 vpopmail-toaster-5.4.13-1.3.3 clamav-toaster-0.90.1-1.3.11 courier-authlib-toaster-0.59.1-1.3.5 control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.3 maildrop-toaster-devel-2.0.3-1.3.4 send-emails-toaster-0.5-1.3.3 ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.4 qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.14 courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6 libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.2 qmail-pop3d-toaster-1.03-1.3.14 squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.9a-1.3.5 qmailtoaster-plus-0.2.8-1.3.10 daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.2 libsrs2-toaster-1.0.18-1.3.2 ripmime-toaster-1.4.0.6-1.3.2 isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.3 qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.3.2 spamassassin-toaster-3.1.8-1.3.7 On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:11 -0700, Erik A. Espinoza wrote: Please provide qmail-toaster versions: rpm -qa | grep toaster If I had to guess, you are running an old version of the qmail-toaster package with the bad qmail-dk, which rejected mail silently. We will be disabling qmail-dk by default altogether in the next release of the qmail-toaster package. It is just too broken. Erik On 3/22/07, James F. Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions: Here is what I have done: Verified (In /var/log/qmail/smtp) that the mail was received by the toster. Found *NO* other references to the student's e-mail address ANYWHERE in ANY of the log files other than that one, and there is nothing in the teacher's mail queue (tho that is not surprising as all our teachers download their mail with outlook). So I guess it just vanished... -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] Batch install of forwards
I have a question regarding forwards. We currently have two e-mail systems in place (one legacy, that is going away and our new toaster), when the legacy system goes away, it would be advantageous to re-create its domain on the toaster and forward all mail going to the old accounts to the new accounts. The new accounts are not just the same old name at a new domain, but completely different. To make this work, I would have to create a forward for every old account on the old system to it's equiv. account on the new. Is there a way to script this so I don't have to manually put in 300+ forwards? Thanks, James -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Batch install of forwards
I already have all that, I'm just not sure what to have the script *DO*. I didn't seem to find a command line to create a forward, and am a bit loathe to mess with the files directly. Any suggestions on that? James On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 08:33 -0500, Jake Vickers wrote: James F. Jarrett wrote: I have a question regarding forwards. We currently have two e-mail systems in place (one legacy, that is going away and our new toaster), when the legacy system goes away, it would be advantageous to re-create its domain on the toaster and forward all mail going to the old accounts to the new accounts. The new accounts are not just the same old name at a new domain, but completely different. To make this work, I would have to create a forward for every old account on the old system to it's equiv. account on the new. Is there a way to script this so I don't have to manually put in 300+ forwards? With some scripting you could dump the old email addresses as a text file, create the old domain on the Toaster, and run your text file through a script to create the forwards for you. It'd be difficult, since the new email addresses are not similar to the old, but I guess you could create the text file like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and have the script run that way. -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Batch install of forwards
Ok, I guess I can do that easily enough. I was hoping there would be a command line argument to do it. I suppose I could write one... James On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 09:25 -0700, Eric Shubes wrote: There doesn't appear to be a CLI command for that. You'll need to add entries to the valias table in the vpopmail database in mysql. James F. Jarrett wrote: I already have all that, I'm just not sure what to have the script *DO*. I didn't seem to find a command line to create a forward, and am a bit loathe to mess with the files directly. Any suggestions on that? James On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 08:33 -0500, Jake Vickers wrote: James F. Jarrett wrote: I have a question regarding forwards. We currently have two e-mail systems in place (one legacy, that is going away and our new toaster), when the legacy system goes away, it would be advantageous to re-create its domain on the toaster and forward all mail going to the old accounts to the new accounts. The new accounts are not just the same old name at a new domain, but completely different. To make this work, I would have to create a forward for every old account on the old system to it's equiv. account on the new. Is there a way to script this so I don't have to manually put in 300+ forwards? With some scripting you could dump the old email addresses as a text file, create the old domain on the Toaster, and run your text file through a script to create the forwards for you. It'd be difficult, since the new email addresses are not similar to the old, but I guess you could create the text file like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and have the script run that way. -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] Using qmail tap
I have been told by our administrative staff that they want me to start saving all e-mails sent / received for a period of time (the duration to keep this data is still up in the air). I know that tap can forward any / all e-mail to *ANOTHER* email address in another domain, and I could setup a second domain on the toaster to handle receiption of this mail, but it seems inefficient. Is there a way to simply have tap store all this mail to a local text file? I could then have cron job that works like a log package that creates a new file every day and then can regularly backup those files to offline storage. Any thoughts on how to do this? James -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] Remove case sensitivity in address
We have just moved to a new qmail system and it follows the pattern [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are getting a lot of bounced emails because people are trying to send to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there anyway to force all incoming email addresses to lowercase before they are attempted to be delivered? James -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Remove case sensitivity in address
Yes, that's the one. James On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 08:59 -0500, South Computers wrote: oops! I sent that to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address... Was that right? South Computers wrote: I just sent you an email directly, with mixed case. to see what the bounce message is, if any.. James F. Jarrett wrote: We have just moved to a new qmail system and it follows the pattern [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are getting a lot of bounced emails because people are trying to send to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there anyway to force all incoming email addresses to lowercase before they are attempted to be delivered? James - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Remove case sensitivity in address
No, I haven't. H... I also don't see it as ever getting here in the smtp log, tha's odd. James. On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 09:13 -0500, South Computers wrote: James F. Jarrett wrote: Yes, that's the one. Ok. Did you receive it? It hasn't bounced back to me yet. James On Mon, 2007-01-29 at 08:59 -0500, South Computers wrote: oops! I sent that to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address... Was that right? South Computers wrote: I just sent you an email directly, with mixed case. to see what the bounce message is, if any.. James F. Jarrett wrote: We have just moved to a new qmail system and it follows the pattern [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are getting a lot of bounced emails because people are trying to send to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there anyway to force all incoming email addresses to lowercase before they are attempted to be delivered? James - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] Multiple mailing list bounces
I guess you are all going to get tired of my mailing list questions, but here is an odd one. As I said before, we have a mailing list for every division, we have accounts like: uschool lschool mschool first second third etc. I have noticed that if you send an email to any of these divisions, it works fine, but sometimes (most of the time in fact) if you send an email to several of these divisions, the first one will deliver, and the subseqent ones come back with a header like... *** BEGIN EXAMPLE *** Hi. This is the qmail-send program at qmail.ccds.charlotte.nc.us. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ezmlm-reject: fatal: List address must be in To: or Cc: (#5.7.0) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 29029 invoked by uid 89); 22 Jan 2007 22:08:27 - Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 29010 invoked by uid 89); 22 Jan 2007 22:08:27 - Received: from unknown (HELO time.ccds.charlotte.nc.us) (10.64.6.50) by qmail with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 22:08:27 - Subject: Maling groups (upper, middle, etc..) From: James F. Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Charlotte Country Day School Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:08:27 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.3 (2.6.3-1.fc5.5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit *** END EXAMPLE *** I have created an alias called allschool that send an email to upper, middle, lower and staff and when you use it, uppper (the first one) goes, and all the others bounce like this. Have I configured something wrong, or is there something in ezmlm that doesn't like sending to multiple mailing lists? Suggestions? Questions? Comments? Snied Rmarks? James -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] Consolodating emails on multiple lists
Greetings all, I have just (with the aid of the fine people on this list) moved our school over to a qmail toaster. So far, everything is working well, with two exceptions. The first problem concerns multiple e-mails. On the old system, (exim on a VERY old suse linux box) we kept a few alias files by division (like upper school, lower school, third grade, etc) If someone sent out an e-mail to multiple divisions, and a person was in more than one division, they only got a single e-mail. Now however, they get an e-mail for every division in which they belong. We created the division mails as mailing lists. IN hindsight this may not have been wise and I probably should have created them as forwards. TO fix this is there a way to either: A) tell the mailing list manager to make sure that each person only gets one e-mail. (I'm guessing this is not possible, or highly difficult) or B) let me create a forward that is an exact copy of the current mailing list unnder a temporary name (call it fred) and then, when I feel it is right and ready to go, quickly delete the mailing list and re-name fred to the same name as the mailing list so there is little or no downtime apparent to users. or C) something else that I'm completely missing... Any ideas? James -- James F. Jarrett Information Systems Associate Charlotte Country Day School - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]