RE: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

2020-08-17 Thread Chas Hockenbarger
Thanks Eric, I'll make that change.

-Original Message-
From: Eric Broch [mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 9:21 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

In your .qmail-default file for the domain it's recommended to use 'delete' 
instead of 'bounce-no-mailbox'


On 8/17/2020 8:14 AM, Chas Hockenbarger wrote:
> Thanks, Angus.  I searched the whole system for a .forward and there aren't 
> any on the system I can find.
>
> I'm not seeing anything that is obvious here.  I appreciate all the feedback 
> and help, there were definitely suggestions made I hadn't chased yet.  I'm 
> perplexed to say the least.  I deleted all the messages from the bounce queue 
> and will see if that rectifies the situation or not.  I'm watching this 
> system like a hawk so hopefully if something that is more 'normal' looking is 
> going on I'll be able to catch it.
>
> If I find the culprit I'll absolutely update this thread.  If anyone has any 
> other ideas, I'd love to hear them as well.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Angus McIntyre [mailto:an...@pobox.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 5:44 AM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com; Chas Hockenbarger 
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior
>
> Check for a '.forward' file in '/root'?
>
> That could account for the status report going somewhere other than where 
> it's supposed to, but might not explain the other issues you're seeing.
>
> Angus
>
>
>
> Chas Hockenbarger wrote on 8/16/20 6:09 PM:
>> I just got another piece of information.  I got a failure message a
>> few hours ago to the postmaster account for this domain that a message
>> from root to root was not delivered to 5 different Gmail accounts.
>> The email was the cron.daily status report.  There is no way that
>> should be going to these Gmail accounts.  They are accounts I don’t
>> know and root at this server is supposed to go to postmaster.
>>
>> This just keeps getting weirder.
>>
>> *From:* Eric Broch [mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:13 PM
>> *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior
>>
>> Yes forwards can be in a .qmail file or in the vpopmail database.
>>
>> So, the bounces occurring presently, what's the originating account?
>>
>> Is there anything in your queue (# qmailctl queue)?
>>
>> On 8/16/2020 2:46 PM, Charles Hockenbarger wrote:
>>
>>  As I understand the forwards setup in qmailadmin those are in the
>>  database, right?
>>
>>  The address that was compromised hasn't sent any email since the
>>  password change.
>>
>>  I hadn't thought about looking at qmail-inject. I'll dig into
>>  watching that part of the process.
>>
>>  Get TypeApp for Android <http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=15986>
>>
>>  On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Eric Broch >  <mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com>> wrote:
>>
>>  How do you have your forwards set up?
>>
>>  Is there any mail in your queue?
>>
>>  If someone hacked an account on your server with forwards to
>>  gmail accounts they aren't limited to just these forwards, they
>>      also have the option in the email client to add gmail accounts
>>  in the "To:" field of the email they're sending, thus bounces
>>  from gmail accounts that aren't in your forwards file.
>>
>>  Also, qmail-inject puts mail in the queue and you'll see it in
>>  the send log.
>>
>>  On 8/16/2020 10:05 AM, Chas Hockenbarger wrote:
>>
>>  I'm hoping someone has encountered this weird behavior or
>>  something like it before and can point me down a path,
>>  because all my research has turned up nothing so far.
>>
>>  I had an email account recently get breached due to a
>>  re-used password, and that account was used to send a bunch
>>  of spam out from a server I help manage.  We changed the
>>  password on the account as soon as we found it happening and
>>  the outbound flood stopped.
>>
>>  Shortly after that, however, I started seeing a very, very
>>  strange behavior.  Sometimes, and I haven’t yet been able to
>>  identify the trigger or pattern, when users on this server
>>  send email to a forward that contains around 50 or so

RE: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

2020-08-17 Thread Chas Hockenbarger
Thanks, Angus.  I searched the whole system for a .forward and there aren't any 
on the system I can find.

I'm not seeing anything that is obvious here.  I appreciate all the feedback 
and help, there were definitely suggestions made I hadn't chased yet.  I'm 
perplexed to say the least.  I deleted all the messages from the bounce queue 
and will see if that rectifies the situation or not.  I'm watching this system 
like a hawk so hopefully if something that is more 'normal' looking is going on 
I'll be able to catch it.

If I find the culprit I'll absolutely update this thread.  If anyone has any 
other ideas, I'd love to hear them as well.

-Original Message-
From: Angus McIntyre [mailto:an...@pobox.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2020 5:44 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com; Chas Hockenbarger 
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

Check for a '.forward' file in '/root'?

That could account for the status report going somewhere other than where it's 
supposed to, but might not explain the other issues you're seeing.

Angus



Chas Hockenbarger wrote on 8/16/20 6:09 PM:
> I just got another piece of information.  I got a failure message a 
> few hours ago to the postmaster account for this domain that a message 
> from root to root was not delivered to 5 different Gmail accounts.  
> The email was the cron.daily status report.  There is no way that 
> should be going to these Gmail accounts.  They are accounts I don’t 
> know and root at this server is supposed to go to postmaster.
> 
> This just keeps getting weirder.
> 
> *From:* Eric Broch [mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:13 PM
> *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior
> 
> Yes forwards can be in a .qmail file or in the vpopmail database.
> 
> So, the bounces occurring presently, what's the originating account?
> 
> Is there anything in your queue (# qmailctl queue)?
> 
> On 8/16/2020 2:46 PM, Charles Hockenbarger wrote:
> 
> As I understand the forwards setup in qmailadmin those are in the
> database, right?
> 
> The address that was compromised hasn't sent any email since the
> password change.
> 
> I hadn't thought about looking at qmail-inject. I'll dig into
> watching that part of the process.
> 
> Get TypeApp for Android <http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=15986>
> 
> On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Eric Broch  <mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com>> wrote:
> 
> How do you have your forwards set up?
> 
> Is there any mail in your queue?
> 
> If someone hacked an account on your server with forwards to
> gmail accounts they aren't limited to just these forwards, they
> also have the option in the email client to add gmail accounts
> in the "To:" field of the email they're sending, thus bounces
> from gmail accounts that aren't in your forwards file.
> 
> Also, qmail-inject puts mail in the queue and you'll see it in
> the send log.
> 
> On 8/16/2020 10:05 AM, Chas Hockenbarger wrote:
> 
> I'm hoping someone has encountered this weird behavior or
> something like it before and can point me down a path,
> because all my research has turned up nothing so far.
> 
> I had an email account recently get breached due to a
> re-used password, and that account was used to send a bunch
> of spam out from a server I help manage.  We changed the
> password on the account as soon as we found it happening and
> the outbound flood stopped.
> 
> Shortly after that, however, I started seeing a very, very
> strange behavior.  Sometimes, and I haven’t yet been able to
> identify the trigger or pattern, when users on this server
> send email to a forward that contains around 50 or so email
> addresses (they use it like a private distribution list)
> they will get anywhere from 1-10 bounces from Gmail.  Not
> every email sent to the forward has this happen, and not
> even every email from a particular user.
> 
> The outbound spamming caused the server’s reputation to go
> in the tank with Google, and if it weren’t for that, I
> wouldn’t know this was happening, because they get the
> bounces from Gmail accounts that absolutely ARE NOT in the
> forward or part of the email chain AT ALL.
> 
> I’m kind of freaking out here because while I haven’t found
> a breach of the actual server / OS, this feels like someon

RE: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

2020-08-16 Thread Chas Hockenbarger
There are only 2 files found.  One is in a user’s directory, and the file 
contains this line:

 

/Maildir

 

The other is in the top of the domain, labeled .qmail-default, which contains

 

| /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail ‘’ bounce-no-mailbox

 

 

 

From: Eric Broch [mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 7:40 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

 

Do this:

# ls -la /home/vpopmail/domains/'mydomain'/postmaster/

look for a .qmail file.

In fact you could do this

# find /home/vpopmail/domains/ -name ".qmail*"

 

The .qmail is also a way to forward.

On 8/16/2020 4:49 PM, Chas Hockenbarger wrote:

So I looked at a few of the files in the bounce folder and every one of them is 
bounces back from Gmail for either bad addresses or just the reputation bounce. 

 

Is there a down side to just blowing those away?  

 

From: Remo Mattei [mailto:r...@mattei.org] 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 5:43 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
<mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com> 
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

 

BTW, I always use the -L on the qmHandle it should not change much but my 2 
cents. 

 

Remo






On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Chas Hockenbarger mailto:chash...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yes, I did check those, that was my first thought is that the server had been 
compromised and someone modified those files to do some weird thing.   However, 

 

.qmail-root has one line @

.qmail-postmaster has one line @

.qmail-mailer-daemon has one line @

 

I see no other files in that directory.

 

One more piece of info I just discovered.  Even though qmHandle –l reports 0 
messages in either the remote or local queue, the bounce queue directory has 
over 2000 messages in it.   

 

Could that be a contributing factor here?  I don’t see how that would create 
random emails going to Gmail accounts from (seemingly) random other messages, 
but is it possible something is borked up in the queue processing there since 
Gmail is bouncing everything back to me?

 

From: Remo Mattei [mailto:r...@mattei.org] 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 5:26 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
<mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com> 
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

 

did you check your qmail aliases?

cd /var/qmail/alias/

 

what do those files say?

 







On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Chas Hockenbarger < <mailto:chash...@gmail.com> 
chash...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Thanks, Boheme, and yes that’s a problem, but it’s a symptom of this problem.  
Emails are going to Gmail accounts when users aren’t sending them.  Legit 
emails to Gmail accounts are definitely getting bounced, too, which I have to 
deal with later.  If I can’t stop this weird spamming to them, I can’t recover 
the reputation.

 

From: Boheme [ <mailto:boh...@gmail.com> mailto:boh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:59 PM
To:  <mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com> 
qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

 

It doesn’t sound like you are being repeatedly hacked. It sounds like your 
reputation dropped with google, and certain emails trigger their anti-spam 
filtering now. Not all of them, just some. I have problems with Google 
accepting email regularly sometimes, and dropping other emails into people’s 
spam folders, as a result of too many of my users forwarding email to google 
and those forwards passing along a lot of spam to their addresses on my server. 

-Sent from my Pip-Boy 3000








On 17/08/2020, at 8:46 AM, Charles Hockenbarger < <mailto:chash...@gmail.com> 
chash...@gmail.com> wrote:



As I understand the forwards setup in qmailadmin those are in the database, 
right?

The address that was compromised hasn't sent any email since the password 
change. 

I hadn't thought about looking at qmail-inject. I'll dig into watching that 
part of the process. 

Get  <http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=15986> TypeApp for Android

On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Eric Broch < <mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com> 
ebr...@whitehorsetc.com> wrote:

How do you have your forwards set up?

Is there any mail in your queue?

If someone hacked an account on your server with forwards to gmail accounts 
they aren't limited to just these forwards, they also have the option in the 
email client to add gmail accounts in the "To:" field of the email they're 
sending, thus bounces from gmail accounts that aren't in your forwards file.

Also, qmail-inject puts mail in the queue and you'll see it in the send log.

 

On 8/16/2020 10:05 AM, Chas Hockenbarger wrote: 

I'm hoping someone has encountered this weird behavior or something like it 
before and can point me down a path, because all my research has turned up 
nothing so far. 

  

I had an email account recently ge

RE: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

2020-08-16 Thread Chas Hockenbarger
So I looked at a few of the files in the bounce folder and every one of them is 
bounces back from Gmail for either bad addresses or just the reputation bounce. 

 

Is there a down side to just blowing those away?  

 

From: Remo Mattei [mailto:r...@mattei.org] 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 5:43 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

 

BTW, I always use the -L on the qmHandle it should not change much but my 2 
cents. 

 

Remo





On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:32 PM, Chas Hockenbarger mailto:chash...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yes, I did check those, that was my first thought is that the server had been 
compromised and someone modified those files to do some weird thing.   However, 

 

.qmail-root has one line @

.qmail-postmaster has one line @

.qmail-mailer-daemon has one line @

 

I see no other files in that directory.

 

One more piece of info I just discovered.  Even though qmHandle –l reports 0 
messages in either the remote or local queue, the bounce queue directory has 
over 2000 messages in it.   

 

Could that be a contributing factor here?  I don’t see how that would create 
random emails going to Gmail accounts from (seemingly) random other messages, 
but is it possible something is borked up in the queue processing there since 
Gmail is bouncing everything back to me?

 

From: Remo Mattei [mailto:r...@mattei.org] 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 5:26 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
<mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com> 
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

 

did you check your qmail aliases?

cd /var/qmail/alias/

 

what do those files say?

 






On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Chas Hockenbarger < <mailto:chash...@gmail.com> 
chash...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Thanks, Boheme, and yes that’s a problem, but it’s a symptom of this problem.  
Emails are going to Gmail accounts when users aren’t sending them.  Legit 
emails to Gmail accounts are definitely getting bounced, too, which I have to 
deal with later.  If I can’t stop this weird spamming to them, I can’t recover 
the reputation.

 

From: Boheme [ <mailto:boh...@gmail.com> mailto:boh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:59 PM
To:  <mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com> 
qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

 

It doesn’t sound like you are being repeatedly hacked. It sounds like your 
reputation dropped with google, and certain emails trigger their anti-spam 
filtering now. Not all of them, just some. I have problems with Google 
accepting email regularly sometimes, and dropping other emails into people’s 
spam folders, as a result of too many of my users forwarding email to google 
and those forwards passing along a lot of spam to their addresses on my server. 

-Sent from my Pip-Boy 3000







On 17/08/2020, at 8:46 AM, Charles Hockenbarger < <mailto:chash...@gmail.com> 
chash...@gmail.com> wrote:



As I understand the forwards setup in qmailadmin those are in the database, 
right?

The address that was compromised hasn't sent any email since the password 
change. 

I hadn't thought about looking at qmail-inject. I'll dig into watching that 
part of the process. 

Get  <http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=15986> TypeApp for Android

On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Eric Broch < <mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com> 
ebr...@whitehorsetc.com> wrote:

How do you have your forwards set up?

Is there any mail in your queue?

If someone hacked an account on your server with forwards to gmail accounts 
they aren't limited to just these forwards, they also have the option in the 
email client to add gmail accounts in the "To:" field of the email they're 
sending, thus bounces from gmail accounts that aren't in your forwards file.

Also, qmail-inject puts mail in the queue and you'll see it in the send log.

 

On 8/16/2020 10:05 AM, Chas Hockenbarger wrote: 

I'm hoping someone has encountered this weird behavior or something like it 
before and can point me down a path, because all my research has turned up 
nothing so far. 

  

I had an email account recently get breached due to a re-used password, and 
that account was used to send a bunch of spam out from a server I help manage.  
We changed the password on the account as soon as we found it happening and the 
outbound flood stopped. 

  

Shortly after that, however, I started seeing a very, very strange behavior.  
Sometimes, and I haven’t yet been able to identify the trigger or pattern, when 
users on this server send email to a forward that contains around 50 or so 
email addresses (they use it like a private distribution list) they will get 
anywhere from 1-10 bounces from Gmail.  Not every email sent to the forward has 
this happen, and not even every email from a particular user. 

  

The outbound spamming caused the server’s reputation to go in the tank 

RE: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

2020-08-16 Thread Chas Hockenbarger
Yes, I did check those, that was my first thought is that the server had been 
compromised and someone modified those files to do some weird thing.   However, 

 

.qmail-root has one line @

.qmail-postmaster has one line @

.qmail-mailer-daemon has one line @

 

I see no other files in that directory.

 

One more piece of info I just discovered.  Even though qmHandle –l reports 0 
messages in either the remote or local queue, the bounce queue directory has 
over 2000 messages in it.   

 

Could that be a contributing factor here?  I don’t see how that would create 
random emails going to Gmail accounts from (seemingly) random other messages, 
but is it possible something is borked up in the queue processing there since 
Gmail is bouncing everything back to me?

 

From: Remo Mattei [mailto:r...@mattei.org] 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 5:26 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

 

did you check your qmail aliases?

cd /var/qmail/alias/

 

what do those files say?

 





On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Chas Hockenbarger mailto:chash...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks, Boheme, and yes that’s a problem, but it’s a symptom of this problem.  
Emails are going to Gmail accounts when users aren’t sending them.  Legit 
emails to Gmail accounts are definitely getting bounced, too, which I have to 
deal with later.  If I can’t stop this weird spamming to them, I can’t recover 
the reputation.

 

From: Boheme [mailto:boh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:59 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
<mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com> 
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

 

It doesn’t sound like you are being repeatedly hacked. It sounds like your 
reputation dropped with google, and certain emails trigger their anti-spam 
filtering now. Not all of them, just some. I have problems with Google 
accepting email regularly sometimes, and dropping other emails into people’s 
spam folders, as a result of too many of my users forwarding email to google 
and those forwards passing along a lot of spam to their addresses on my server. 

-Sent from my Pip-Boy 3000






On 17/08/2020, at 8:46 AM, Charles Hockenbarger < <mailto:chash...@gmail.com> 
chash...@gmail.com> wrote:



As I understand the forwards setup in qmailadmin those are in the database, 
right?

The address that was compromised hasn't sent any email since the password 
change. 

I hadn't thought about looking at qmail-inject. I'll dig into watching that 
part of the process. 

Get  <http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=15986> TypeApp for Android

On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Eric Broch < <mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com> 
ebr...@whitehorsetc.com> wrote:

How do you have your forwards set up?

Is there any mail in your queue?

If someone hacked an account on your server with forwards to gmail accounts 
they aren't limited to just these forwards, they also have the option in the 
email client to add gmail accounts in the "To:" field of the email they're 
sending, thus bounces from gmail accounts that aren't in your forwards file.

Also, qmail-inject puts mail in the queue and you'll see it in the send log.

 

On 8/16/2020 10:05 AM, Chas Hockenbarger wrote: 

I'm hoping someone has encountered this weird behavior or something like it 
before and can point me down a path, because all my research has turned up 
nothing so far. 

  

I had an email account recently get breached due to a re-used password, and 
that account was used to send a bunch of spam out from a server I help manage.  
We changed the password on the account as soon as we found it happening and the 
outbound flood stopped. 

  

Shortly after that, however, I started seeing a very, very strange behavior.  
Sometimes, and I haven’t yet been able to identify the trigger or pattern, when 
users on this server send email to a forward that contains around 50 or so 
email addresses (they use it like a private distribution list) they will get 
anywhere from 1-10 bounces from Gmail.  Not every email sent to the forward has 
this happen, and not even every email from a particular user. 

  

The outbound spamming caused the server’s reputation to go in the tank with 
Google, and if it weren’t for that, I wouldn’t know this was happening, because 
they get the bounces from Gmail accounts that absolutely ARE NOT in the forward 
or part of the email chain AT ALL. 

  

I’m kind of freaking out here because while I haven’t found a breach of the 
actual server / OS, this feels like someone has been able to inject something 
somewhere into my server that I simply can’t find.  It is especially troubling 
because a user who is not on this domain, but is part of the group and 
therefore uses the forward from time to time, sent something to the forward 
today and got Gmail bounces.

  

I don’t see anything in the send log that shows the server even trying t

RE: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

2020-08-16 Thread Chas Hockenbarger
Thanks, Boheme, and yes that’s a problem, but it’s a symptom of this problem.  
Emails are going to Gmail accounts when users aren’t sending them.  Legit 
emails to Gmail accounts are definitely getting bounced, too, which I have to 
deal with later.  If I can’t stop this weird spamming to them, I can’t recover 
the reputation.

 

From: Boheme [mailto:boh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:59 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

 

It doesn’t sound like you are being repeatedly hacked. It sounds like your 
reputation dropped with google, and certain emails trigger their anti-spam 
filtering now. Not all of them, just some. I have problems with Google 
accepting email regularly sometimes, and dropping other emails into people’s 
spam folders, as a result of too many of my users forwarding email to google 
and those forwards passing along a lot of spam to their addresses on my server. 

-Sent from my Pip-Boy 3000





On 17/08/2020, at 8:46 AM, Charles Hockenbarger mailto:chash...@gmail.com> > wrote:



As I understand the forwards setup in qmailadmin those are in the database, 
right?

The address that was compromised hasn't sent any email since the password 
change. 

I hadn't thought about looking at qmail-inject. I'll dig into watching that 
part of the process. 

Get TypeApp for Android <http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=15986>  

On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Eric Broch mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com> > wrote:

How do you have your forwards set up?

Is there any mail in your queue?

If someone hacked an account on your server with forwards to gmail accounts 
they aren't limited to just these forwards, they also have the option in the 
email client to add gmail accounts in the "To:" field of the email they're 
sending, thus bounces from gmail accounts that aren't in your forwards file.

Also, qmail-inject puts mail in the queue and you'll see it in the send log.

 

On 8/16/2020 10:05 AM, Chas Hockenbarger wrote: 

I'm hoping someone has encountered this weird behavior or something like it 
before and can point me down a path, because all my research has turned up 
nothing so far. 

  

I had an email account recently get breached due to a re-used password, and 
that account was used to send a bunch of spam out from a server I help manage.  
We changed the password on the account as soon as we found it happening and the 
outbound flood stopped. 

  

Shortly after that, however, I started seeing a very, very strange behavior.  
Sometimes, and I haven’t yet been able to identify the trigger or pattern, when 
users on this server send email to a forward that contains around 50 or so 
email addresses (they use it like a private distribution list) they will get 
anywhere from 1-10 bounces from Gmail.  Not every email sent to the forward has 
this happen, and not even every email from a particular user. 

  

The outbound spamming caused the server’s reputation to go in the tank with 
Google, and if it weren’t for that, I wouldn’t know this was happening, because 
they get the bounces from Gmail accounts that absolutely ARE NOT in the forward 
or part of the email chain AT ALL. 

  

I’m kind of freaking out here because while I haven’t found a breach of the 
actual server / OS, this feels like someone has been able to inject something 
somewhere into my server that I simply can’t find.  It is especially troubling 
because a user who is not on this domain, but is part of the group and 
therefore uses the forward from time to time, sent something to the forward 
today and got Gmail bounces.

  

I don’t see anything in the send log that shows the server even trying to send 
to Gmail, which only adds to the ghost story. 

  

Any ideas, paths to go down, anything would be greatly appreciated here.  I’m 
about to just rebuild the whole thing from scratch on a new VM, but if I’m 
overlooking something simple don’t want to put the users through that. 

  

Thanks in advance. 

  

Chas 



RE: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

2020-08-16 Thread Chas Hockenbarger
I just got another piece of information.  I got a failure message a few hours 
ago to the postmaster account for this domain that a message from root to root 
was not delivered to 5 different Gmail accounts.  The email was the cron.daily 
status report.  There is no way that should be going to these Gmail accounts.  
They are accounts I don’t know and root at this server is supposed to go to 
postmaster.

 

This just keeps getting weirder.

 

From: Eric Broch [mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:13 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

 

Yes forwards can be in a .qmail file or in the vpopmail database.

So, the bounces occurring presently, what's the originating account?

Is there anything in your queue (# qmailctl queue)?

 

On 8/16/2020 2:46 PM, Charles Hockenbarger wrote:

As I understand the forwards setup in qmailadmin those are in the database, 
right?

The address that was compromised hasn't sent any email since the password 
change. 

I hadn't thought about looking at qmail-inject. I'll dig into watching that 
part of the process. 

Get TypeApp for Android <http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=15986>  

On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Eric Broch mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com> > wrote: 

How do you have your forwards set up?

Is there any mail in your queue?

If someone hacked an account on your server with forwards to gmail accounts 
they aren't limited to just these forwards, they also have the option in the 
email client to add gmail accounts in the "To:" field of the email they're 
sending, thus bounces from gmail accounts that aren't in your forwards file.

Also, qmail-inject puts mail in the queue and you'll see it in the send log.

 

On 8/16/2020 10:05 AM, Chas Hockenbarger wrote: 

I'm hoping someone has encountered this weird behavior or something like it 
before and can point me down a path, because all my research has turned up 
nothing so far. 

  

I had an email account recently get breached due to a re-used password, and 
that account was used to send a bunch of spam out from a server I help manage.  
We changed the password on the account as soon as we found it happening and the 
outbound flood stopped. 

  

Shortly after that, however, I started seeing a very, very strange behavior.  
Sometimes, and I haven’t yet been able to identify the trigger or pattern, when 
users on this server send email to a forward that contains around 50 or so 
email addresses (they use it like a private distribution list) they will get 
anywhere from 1-10 bounces from Gmail.  Not every email sent to the forward has 
this happen, and not even every email from a particular user. 

  

The outbound spamming caused the server’s reputation to go in the tank with 
Google, and if it weren’t for that, I wouldn’t know this was happening, because 
they get the bounces from Gmail accounts that absolutely ARE NOT in the forward 
or part of the email chain AT ALL. 

  

I’m kind of freaking out here because while I haven’t found a breach of the 
actual server / OS, this feels like someone has been able to inject something 
somewhere into my server that I simply can’t find.  It is especially troubling 
because a user who is not on this domain, but is part of the group and 
therefore uses the forward from time to time, sent something to the forward 
today and got Gmail bounces.

  

I don’t see anything in the send log that shows the server even trying to send 
to Gmail, which only adds to the ghost story. 

  

Any ideas, paths to go down, anything would be greatly appreciated here.  I’m 
about to just rebuild the whole thing from scratch on a new VM, but if I’m 
overlooking something simple don’t want to put the users through that. 

  

Thanks in advance. 

  

Chas 



RE: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

2020-08-16 Thread Chas Hockenbarger
Thanks Eric and Remo, I appreciate the assistance. 

 

I’d forgotten about the simscan setting for the cdb to up the logging, it’s 
been a LONG time since I’ve had to do that.

 

My queue is empty.  Nothing clogged up, it’s not residual stuff; that said, I’m 
watching it pretty closely right now.

 

No .qmail files.  I logged into the db and looked – the forward is all in the 
database, and I don’t have any .qmail files that I can find outside of the skel 
folder.  My users aren’t ‘real’ users on the system, they’re all virtual users.

 

Part of the problem is that the bouncing from Gmail has happened to different 
users at different times, and at other times it doesn’t happen to them.  It is 
so very bizarre.  Hopefully with an increased logging level I can find enough 
to trace this down to its actual origins.  

 

From: Eric Broch [mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:13 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

 

Yes forwards can be in a .qmail file or in the vpopmail database.

So, the bounces occurring presently, what's the originating account?

Is there anything in your queue (# qmailctl queue)?

 

On 8/16/2020 2:46 PM, Charles Hockenbarger wrote:

As I understand the forwards setup in qmailadmin those are in the database, 
right?

The address that was compromised hasn't sent any email since the password 
change. 

I hadn't thought about looking at qmail-inject. I'll dig into watching that 
part of the process. 

Get TypeApp for Android <http://www.typeapp.com/r?b=15986>  

On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Eric Broch mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com> > wrote: 

How do you have your forwards set up?

Is there any mail in your queue?

If someone hacked an account on your server with forwards to gmail accounts 
they aren't limited to just these forwards, they also have the option in the 
email client to add gmail accounts in the "To:" field of the email they're 
sending, thus bounces from gmail accounts that aren't in your forwards file.

Also, qmail-inject puts mail in the queue and you'll see it in the send log.

 

On 8/16/2020 10:05 AM, Chas Hockenbarger wrote: 

I'm hoping someone has encountered this weird behavior or something like it 
before and can point me down a path, because all my research has turned up 
nothing so far. 

  

I had an email account recently get breached due to a re-used password, and 
that account was used to send a bunch of spam out from a server I help manage.  
We changed the password on the account as soon as we found it happening and the 
outbound flood stopped. 

  

Shortly after that, however, I started seeing a very, very strange behavior.  
Sometimes, and I haven’t yet been able to identify the trigger or pattern, when 
users on this server send email to a forward that contains around 50 or so 
email addresses (they use it like a private distribution list) they will get 
anywhere from 1-10 bounces from Gmail.  Not every email sent to the forward has 
this happen, and not even every email from a particular user. 

  

The outbound spamming caused the server’s reputation to go in the tank with 
Google, and if it weren’t for that, I wouldn’t know this was happening, because 
they get the bounces from Gmail accounts that absolutely ARE NOT in the forward 
or part of the email chain AT ALL. 

  

I’m kind of freaking out here because while I haven’t found a breach of the 
actual server / OS, this feels like someone has been able to inject something 
somewhere into my server that I simply can’t find.  It is especially troubling 
because a user who is not on this domain, but is part of the group and 
therefore uses the forward from time to time, sent something to the forward 
today and got Gmail bounces.

  

I don’t see anything in the send log that shows the server even trying to send 
to Gmail, which only adds to the ghost story. 

  

Any ideas, paths to go down, anything would be greatly appreciated here.  I’m 
about to just rebuild the whole thing from scratch on a new VM, but if I’m 
overlooking something simple don’t want to put the users through that. 

  

Thanks in advance. 

  

Chas 



[qmailtoaster] Distressing strange behavior

2020-08-16 Thread Chas Hockenbarger
I'm hoping someone has encountered this weird behavior or something like it
before and can point me down a path, because all my research has turned up
nothing so far.

 

I had an email account recently get breached due to a re-used password, and
that account was used to send a bunch of spam out from a server I help
manage.  We changed the password on the account as soon as we found it
happening and the outbound flood stopped.

 

Shortly after that, however, I started seeing a very, very strange behavior.
Sometimes, and I haven't yet been able to identify the trigger or pattern,
when users on this server send email to a forward that contains around 50 or
so email addresses (they use it like a private distribution list) they will
get anywhere from 1-10 bounces from Gmail.  Not every email sent to the
forward has this happen, and not even every email from a particular user.

 

The outbound spamming caused the server's reputation to go in the tank with
Google, and if it weren't for that, I wouldn't know this was happening,
because they get the bounces from Gmail accounts that absolutely ARE NOT in
the forward or part of the email chain AT ALL.

 

I'm kind of freaking out here because while I haven't found a breach of the
actual server / OS, this feels like someone has been able to inject
something somewhere into my server that I simply can't find.  It is
especially troubling because a user who is not on this domain, but is part
of the group and therefore uses the forward from time to time, sent
something to the forward today and got Gmail bounces.   

 

I don't see anything in the send log that shows the server even trying to
send to Gmail, which only adds to the ghost story.

 

Any ideas, paths to go down, anything would be greatly appreciated here.
I'm about to just rebuild the whole thing from scratch on a new VM, but if
I'm overlooking something simple don't want to put the users through that.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Chas



[qmailtoaster] CentOS 6 scripts?

2013-04-16 Thread Chas Hockenbarger
I've searched the wiki and gotten zero results for the page Dan references
in a couple of posts for his CentOS 6 scripts.  I also don't find any script
on mirror4.  Apologies if I'm just blind or looking in the wrong place.

 

Have these been taken down?  I have to move a server to new hardware and
standardization requirements force me to go to CentOS 6 so I was hoping to
use these rather than having to go build a non-toaster qmail server from
scratch (I've gotten spoiled by the toaster!).

 

Thanks

 

Chas

 



[qmailtoaster] 'New' packages at Devel site?

2008-01-17 Thread chas
Hello,
  I noticed that there ate many new packages available for download at the
developement site but the version numbers look the same as the old ones.
Are these really different or newer??

thanks,
Chas.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] mailerdeamon spam

2007-08-20 Thread chas
Go into qmailadmin for your domain and set it to 'catch all email deleted'
as opposed to catchall bounced.

Chas/.

 Since my reinstall i have been getting hit with a lot of mailer deamon
 hits (1 every 5 min) about having a bad address and the email bounced.
   before, i had it auto reject and not send out an email.  could
 someone point me in the right direction on this 1?  i'm having a major
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Re: [qmailtoaster] sa-update html::parser error

2007-08-17 Thread chas
Probably caused by the fact that the dev version of Spamassassin didn't
properly install (compile, actually) and won't stay up. You will need to
add some of the Rpmfind versions of the missing perl modules or install
the old version of Spamassassin if you need to get things up quickly.
I was finally able to upgrade to the newer version of SA on my CentOS 4.5
machine by just adding a few of those Rpmfind modules;
perl-Archive-Tar-1.32-1.el4.rf.noarch.rpm
perl-HTML-Parser-3.55-1.el4.rf.i386.rpm
perl-IO-Zlib-1.05-1.el4.rf.noarch.rpm
You will see errors at the end of the compile and also when you try to
install that will tell you which ones are needed. Just be sure to use the
proper method to compile first and then install SA, ie;
rpmbuild --rebuild --with cnt40 (your .src.rpm package)
followed by;
rpm -Uvh (your .rpm package)

Chas



 Hi!
 Fresh CentOS 4.5 qmail toaster with all qmt packages + newest ones from
 dev
 side.
 I also added perl libs manually from cpan that the new spamassassin
 needed.
 Installed saupdate from qtp but got errors and same ones comes now from
 nightly cronjob too:

 /etc/cron.daily/qtp-sa-update:

 HTML::Parser version 3.43 required--this is only version 3.35 at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/HTML.pm line 26.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/HTML.pm line 26.
 Compilation failed in require at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Message/Node.pm line
 42.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Message/Node.pm line
 42.
 Compilation failed in require at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Message.pm line 49.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Message.pm line 49.
 Compilation failed in require at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin.pm line 73.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/Mail/SpamAssassin.pm line 73.
 Compilation failed in require at /usr/bin/sa-update line 85.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/sa-update line 85.

 qmailctl stat:
 authlib: up (pid 3253) 162685 seconds
 clamd: up (pid 3266) 162685 seconds
 imap4: up (pid 3263) 162685 seconds
 imap4-ssl: up (pid 3279) 162685 seconds
 pop3: up (pid 3254) 162685 seconds
 pop3-ssl: up (pid 3285) 162685 seconds
 send: up (pid 3278) 162685 seconds
 smtp: up (pid 3267) 162685 seconds
 spamd: up (pid 6562) 1 seconds
 submission: up (pid 3255) 162685 seconds
 authlib/log: up (pid 3252) 162685 seconds
 clamd/log: up (pid 3273) 162685 seconds
 imap4/log: up (pid 3264) 162685 seconds
 imap4-ssl/log: up (pid 3277) 162685 seconds
 pop3/log: up (pid 3256) 162685 seconds
 pop3-ssl/log: up (pid 3265) 162685 seconds
 send/log: up (pid 3283) 162685 seconds
 smtp/log: up (pid 3268) 162685 seconds
 spamd/log: up (pid 3261) 162685 seconds
 submission/log: up (pid 3271) 162685 seconds

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Re: [qmailtoaster] spamassassin-toaster-3.2.1 ?

2007-08-13 Thread chas
Hi,
  I'm running just plain x86 (non 64) and still having issues even when
using the --nodeps trick. It will install using nodeps but won't stay
running so email fails. I think I need to use the recently mentioned
rpmfind source for my perl updates.

Chas.

 All my perl modules are up to date, yet am getting the same
 dependencies messages. Installing with --nodeps will do the trick,
 though I suspect it is because I am running on x86_64 architecture.

 How about you, Chas, what architecture are you running on?

 Harry


 On Jul 11, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Adam Cantwell wrote:

 Yes, there are a couple additional Perl modules you need for 3.2.1.
 Look at the QMT CentOS 5 Perl script:

 http://www.qmailtoaster.com/centos/cnt50/cnt50-perl.sh

 and it has them in there, I believe.  I upgraded all of the Perl
 modules mentioned in that script when I installed 3.2.1 so that
 everything was current.


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[qmailtoaster] spamassassin-toaster-3.2.1 ?

2007-07-11 Thread chas
Hello,
   Just curious, has anyone been able to successfully upgrade to
spamassassin-toaster-3.2.1 from the development site?

regards,
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Re: [qmailtoaster] spamassassin-toaster-3.2.1 ?

2007-07-11 Thread chas
Adam and Johannes,
   Thanks for replying. Were there any issues with installed Perl modules,
etc? I have tried twice to upgrade and had to go back to the earlier
version both times. I'm running CentOS 4.5 and the latest (non-dev) qmt
files.

thanks,
Chas.

 Running it on several machines here.  Some upgraded, some fresh
 installs.  I have not had any problems.

 Adam

 Johannes Weberhofer, Weberhofer GmbH wrote:
 At one of my servers it is running for a month without any problems.

 Johannes


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Just curious, has anyone been able to successfully upgrade to
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Re: [qmailtoaster] spamassassin-toaster-3.2.1 Failed dependencies

2007-06-24 Thread chas
Same problem here though I was able to force a '--nodeps' install of
3.2.1. I had to go back to the earlier version, though, because spamd kept
failing to start properly. I wonder if the newer version is looking at
Centos rpm versions of perl modules and not the Cpan ones. I also tried
updating via Cpan and still couldn't get it working.

Chas.

 *Hi list,

 I try to use spamassassin-toaster-3.2.1 from
 http://devel.qmailtoaster.com/download/develop/spamassassin-toaster-3.2.1-1.3.10.src.rpm*

 #rpmbuild --rebuild --with cnt40 spamassassin-toaster-3.2.1-1.3.10.src.rpm
  #qmailctl stop
 # rpm -e --nodeps  spamassassin-toaster

 # rpm -Uhv
 /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/spamassassin-toaster-3.2.1-1.3.10.i386.rpm
 error: Failed dependencies:
 perl(Archive::Tar) = 1.23 is needed by
 spamassassin-toaster-3.2.1-1.3.10.i386
 perl(HTML::Parser) = 3.43 is needed by
 spamassassin-toaster-3.2.1-1.3.10.i386
 perl(IO::Zlib) = 1.04 is needed by
 spamassassin-toaster-3.2.1-1.3.10.i386

 .
 Archive::Tar is up to date (1.32)
 HTML::Parser is up to date (3.56)
 IO::Zlib is up to date (1.05)

 *installing via CPAN.*
 -
 *
 After reinstalling spamassassin-toaster-3.1.8-1.3.7  my server is o.k. *
 *Any ideea ?

 *

 *Thanks,

 Constantin*


 My OS is centos-release-4-3.2

 #rpm -qa | grep toaster
 courier-imap-toaster-3.0.8-1.2.8
 maildrop-toaster-devel-1.8.1-1.2.9
 qmail-toaster-1.03-1.2.9
 control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.2.7
 qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.2.7
 vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.2.11
 simscan-toaster-1.1-1.2.5
 vpopmail-toaster-5.4.17-1.3.4
 daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.2.8
 qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.9-1.2.12
 qmail-pop3d-toaster-1.03-1.2.9
 ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.2.9
 maildrop-toaster-1.8.1-1.2.9
 squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.5-1.2.12
 ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.2.8
 ezmlm-cgi-toaster-0.53.324-1.2.9
 send-emails-toaster-0.5-1.2.7
 spamassassin-toaster-3.1.8-1.3.7
 autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.2.7
 isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.2.8
 clamav-toaster-0.90.3-1.3.13
 
 # spamassassin -D --lint
 [22460] dbg: logger: adding facilities: all
 [22460] dbg: logger: logging level is DBG
 [22460] dbg: generic: SpamAssassin version 3.1.8
 [22460] dbg: config: score set 0 chosen.
 [22460] dbg: util: running in taint mode? yes
 [22460] dbg: util: taint mode: deleting unsafe environment variables,
 resetting PATH
 [22460] dbg: util: PATH included '/usr/kerberos/sbin', keeping
 [22460] dbg: util: PATH included '/usr/kerberos/bin', keeping
 [22460] dbg: util: PATH included '/usr/local/sbin', keeping
 [22460] dbg: util: PATH included '/usr/local/bin', keeping
 [22460] dbg: util: PATH included '/sbin', keeping
 [22460] dbg: util: PATH included '/bin', keeping
 [22460] dbg: util: PATH included '/usr/sbin', keeping
 [22460] dbg: util: PATH included '/usr/bin', keeping
 [22460] dbg: util: PATH included '/usr/X11R6/bin', keeping
 [22460] dbg: util: PATH included '/root/bin', which doesn't exist,
 dropping
 [22460] dbg: util: final PATH set to:
 /usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
 [22460] dbg: message:  MIME PARSER START 
 [22460] dbg: message: main message type: text/plain
 [22460] dbg: message: parsing normal part
 [22460] dbg: message: added part, type: text/plain
 [22460] dbg: message:  MIME PARSER END 
 [22460] dbg: dns: is Net::DNS::Resolver available? yes
 [22460] dbg: dns: Net::DNS version: 0.48
 [22460] dbg: diag: perl platform: 5.008005 linux
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: Digest::SHA1, version 2.07
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: IP::Country::Fast, version 604.001
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: Razor2::Client::Agent, version 2.82
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: Net::Ident, version 1.20
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: IO::Socket::INET6, version 2.51
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: IO::Socket::SSL, version 1.03
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: Time::HiRes, version 1.55
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: DBI, version 1.40
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: Getopt::Long, version 2.34
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: LWP::UserAgent, version 2.031
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: HTTP::Date, version 1.46
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: Archive::Tar, version 1.32
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: IO::Zlib, version 1.05
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: DB_File, version 1.809
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: HTML::Parser, version 3.35
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: MIME::Base64, version 3.01
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: Net::DNS, version 0.48
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: Net::SMTP, version 2.30
 [22460] dbg: diag: module installed: Mail::SPF::Query, version 1.999001
 [22460] dbg: ignore: using a test message to lint rules
 [22460] dbg: config: using /etc/mail/spamassassin for site rules pre
 files
 [22460] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin

RE: [qmailtoaster] QTPlus

2007-06-17 Thread chas
 Thanks for the efforts Jake, and the rest!

 The reason I'm looking for QTP is I have the latest QMT installed but the
 Clamd is being a CPU hog.  I saw a reference to a bug and updating to the
 latest Clam cures it.  I have the dev. Version of Clam toaster; 1.3.13.
 I'm
 pretty new to the Linux world so I'm not sure how to handle the upgrade.
 I
 stopped clamd then did an rpm -Uvh clamav-90.3-1.3.13.src.rpm.  It
 returned
 a 100% progress bar looking like it installed, but the version still comes
 back as 90.1.  What am I missing?

 I'm also running Symantec SMTP security for the scanning front end on
 separate servers.  When I start pushing mail from that into QMT, I get a
 bunch of errors back in Symantec saying the server temporarily rejected
 the
 message (missing end dot).  Once they start, mail literally dribbles into
 the QMT and I only have a couple small domains pointing to it.  I'm
 thinking
 it's the clam causing this?  I did stop clam but it doesn't seem to slow
 the
 errors so maybe not clam.

 Like I said, I'm new to the Linux world.  I am trying to convert to QMT
 after running Merak for about 10yrs.  If I can get this stabilized, I can
 get moving to the migration of about 100 domains and 300 users...  oh
 joy...

 Thanks again to all that provide support here.  I'm sure once I get this
 running I'll switch from asking to answering these questions.

 Phil





Phil,
  Those .src.rpm files aren't meant to be install directly. If you look at
the main qmailtoaster page and scroll down you will see where they talk
about rebuilding them to fit your distro. This is what happens during
the automated install to all the packages. So, for instance, if you
wanted to upgrade clamav on a CentOS server you would need to first run
this command;

'rpmbuild --rebuild --with cnt40 clamav-90.3-1.3.13.src.rpm'

Then you would change to another directory where you would find the normal
.rpm file;

'cd /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/'  (again, this is CentOS)

then run your install;

'rpm -Uvh clamav-90.3-1.3.13.rpm'

I would do this after shutting down qmail, then start qmail after

'qmailctl start'

there's another command to make sure the upgraded version of clamav
appears in email headers. I think it's;

'service qmail cdb'

regards,
Chas.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] [Fwd: RE: 404 while getting RDJ updates?]

2007-06-07 Thread chas
Is Rules du Jour something that is 'on' by default with Qmail toaster or
is it an option you enable after the install?

Chas.

 For an update Looks like everyone should stop using Rules du Jour
 until further notice.


  Original Message 
 Subject:  RE: 404 while getting RDJ updates?
 Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 12:11:55 -0400
 From: Chris Santerre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To:   'Jim Maul' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]





   -Original Message-
   From: Jim Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:02 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: 404 while getting RDJ updates?
  
  
   guenther wrote:
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 17:45 +0200, Anders Norrbring wrote:
Anyone else getting 404 errors from RDJ lately?
   
Yes, this topic came up just a few hours ago. Probably a
   dDOS attack.
   
Please disable all RDJ till further notice.
   
  guenther
   
   
  
   I would imagine this is related to www.uribl.com and
   surbl.org  having
   issues as well.  Both are now pointing to 127.0.0.1 in what I would
   assume was an attempt to stop the attack.  Some spammer is
   pissed off it
   seems...

 Its true, scanners indicate klingon war vessels approaching our sector.
 We've dropped out of warp due to overuse of the dilythium crystals.
 Federation starships have been called in for assistance. Scottie has
 given us more power, but is not sure she will hold together much
 longer.  All the while Ensen Alex won't stop dancing with a half naked
 green lady!

 Thanks,

 Chris Santerre
 SysAdmin and Spamfighter
 www.rulesemporium.com
 www.uribl.com







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[qmailtoaster] Clamav upgrade to 0.90.3

2007-06-03 Thread chas
Well I've just been able to update with the ClamAV 0.90.3 package (on a
CentOS 4.5 box) and all is well so far. could anyone tell me the command
to run to get Simscan to see show the newer version in email headers?

Thanks,
Chas.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Clamav upgrade to 0.90.3

2007-06-03 Thread chas
That's got it, thanks.

Chas.

 service qmail cdb

 Erik

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 Well I've just been able to update with the ClamAV 0.90.3 package (on a
 CentOS 4.5 box) and all is well so far. could anyone tell me the command
 to run to get Simscan to see show the newer version in email headers?

 Thanks,
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Re: [qmailtoaster] How to run admin-toaster in HTTPS

2007-05-30 Thread chas
 Dear all,

 I try to turn my admin-toaster webpage to become a HTTPS page by
 changing
 my
 toaster.conf file.  But it turns out asking user name and password for
 every
 page.  Here's what my file looks like:


 Check in the archives - I remember a while ago someone posting some
 instructions on how to run Squirrelmail through HTTPS, and that may give
 you some good clues.



Squirrelmail uses a plugin for https, so it's a bit different. I'm not
sure how you would do it with the Toaster admin.

Chas


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Re: [qmailtoaster] How-to get headers to display upgraded software.

2007-05-14 Thread chas
Just found the answer if the FAQ, sorry for the trouble! It appears to be
something similiar for the different scanner;

'/var/qmail/bin/simscanmk -g'

regards,
Chas.

 Hi,
   Any way to get my headers to display the proper version of Clamav after
 a recent upgrade? I know that on the old qmailrocks we used to do
 something with the scanner database as below;

 'setuidgid qscand /var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl -g'

 Any help appreciated.

 Thanks,
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[qmailtoaster] How-to get headers to display upgraded software.

2007-05-14 Thread chas
Hi,
  Any way to get my headers to display the proper version of Clamav after
a recent upgrade? I know that on the old qmailrocks we used to do
something with the scanner database as below;

'setuidgid qscand /var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl -g'

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,
Chas.


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