Re: [qmailtoaster] QMAIL TOASTER ISSUES

2007-02-13 Thread Warren (mailing lists)

Rajesh,

I run toasters on similar machines, a Dell PE 2950 and a Dell PE SC1425.

What JP says is true - you need to increase your connections.  You might 
also consider using one of the larger suggested profiles from mysql.


You may however also be running into another problem - memory.  I found 
that using a similar setup you need at least 3 GB of RAM - I actually 
ended up going to 6 GB because I had the budget to do so, but I am only 
using about 3-3.5 of it.  Consider throwing another two 1GB sticks into 
the server.


The other thing you should consider is moving off of Fedora and over to 
CentOS 4, which is not only a more stable platform, but is the platform 
upon which most toaster-related development seems to happen.


Regards,
Warren

Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
The problem with authentication and users unknown is probably caused by 
not being able to connect to mysql.

Maybe you should up the limits there a bit.
It could very well be that all of your problems are related to this..
Check you my.cnf for max_connections and make it higher or add like this :
[mysqld]
max_connections = 500

Or even higher I guess..
(default is 100)


JP

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Subject: [qmailtoaster] QMAIL TOASTER ISSUES



hi

we dont know whether others are experiencing these problems but we are 
listing down our experiences with qmail toaster.


we provide email service and host around 35 independent domains for 
corporates totalling to around 2500 users per server


we have tried many different flavors of qmail for the past over 6 
years and qmail toaster consumes the least resources and were very 
impressed by it.


but these are the problems faced by us recently

we have two servers, each is a dell, dual xeon, 2.8 with 2 gb ram and 
scsi drives having around 2500 users each


one installation is redhat enterprise 3 - qmailtoaster without mysql 
second installation fedora 4 - qmailtoaster with mysql


we are listing below the problems we are face which are common for both

we are running latest versions of qmail toaster with spamassing 3.1.7

when the number of concurrencyincoming connections are around upto 100 
everything is fine. works very nicely on both machines


the number of concurrent smtp connections is usually around 30-40

the problems come when the number of smtp connections increases. this 
does not happen every day but once in while and it happens on both 
machines almost simultaneously. concurrent smtp connections go as high 
as 300.


this happens even during night time when it is totally off business hours

we tried restarting qmail but no use -- the concurrent connections 
keep increasing till it is back to the same high level of around 250 - 
300


we have a serious doubt as to whether we are targetted heavily by 
spammers.


1) we kept concurrency limit to around 300 connections then at around 
235 simultaneous connections authentication fails. when users try to 
send out emails thru port 25 outlook express / postmaster and other 
softwares keep asking for username and password ie authentication fails.


even if we use seperate mail submission port on 587 still 
authentication fails and email users on the servers are not able to 
send out emails.


2) email sent to domains on this server at this stage randomly bounces 
back with message -- chkuser says unknown recepient.


3) spamassassin fails to scan many emails (this is random) which are 
normally scanned perfectly. surbl look ups fail in many cases. 
sometimes viruses escape.


4) users on server get duplicate copies of emails

5) the qmail isoqlog does give any information on the details of 
emails sent / recd -- basically it does not match what we see in the 
smtp logs


we have attached herewith a copy of our smtp log

all help would be greatly appreciated

rajesh





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Re: [qmailtoaster] QMAIL TOASTER ISSUES

2007-02-13 Thread George Sweetnam


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From: Warren (mailing lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] QMAIL TOASTER ISSUES



Rajesh,

I run toasters on similar machines, a Dell PE 2950 and a Dell PE SC1425.

What JP says is true - you need to increase your connections.  You might 
also consider using one of the larger suggested profiles from mysql.


You may however also be running into another problem - memory.  I found 
that using a similar setup you need at least 3 GB of RAM - I actually 
ended up going to 6 GB because I had the budget to do so, but I am only 
using about 3-3.5 of it.  Consider throwing another two 1GB sticks into 
the server.


The other thing you should consider is moving off of Fedora and over to 
CentOS 4, which is not only a more stable platform, but is the platform 
upon which most toaster-related development seems to happen.


Regards,
Warren

Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
The problem with authentication and users unknown is probably caused by 
not being able to connect to mysql.

Maybe you should up the limits there a bit.
It could very well be that all of your problems are related to this..
Check you my.cnf for max_connections and make it higher or add like this 
:

[mysqld]
max_connections = 500

Or even higher I guess..
(default is 100)


JP

- Original Message - From: 24x7server 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:34 PM
Subject: [qmailtoaster] QMAIL TOASTER ISSUES



hi

we dont know whether others are experiencing these problems but we are 
listing down our experiences with qmail toaster.


we provide email service and host around 35 independent domains for 
corporates totalling to around 2500 users per server


we have tried many different flavors of qmail for the past over 6 years 
and qmail toaster consumes the least resources and were very impressed 
by it.


but these are the problems faced by us recently

we have two servers, each is a dell, dual xeon, 2.8 with 2 gb ram and 
scsi drives having around 2500 users each


one installation is redhat enterprise 3 - qmailtoaster without mysql 
second installation fedora 4 - qmailtoaster with mysql


we are listing below the problems we are face which are common for both

we are running latest versions of qmail toaster with spamassing 3.1.7

when the number of concurrencyincoming connections are around upto 100 
everything is fine. works very nicely on both machines


the number of concurrent smtp connections is usually around 30-40

the problems come when the number of smtp connections increases. this 
does not happen every day but once in while and it happens on both 
machines almost simultaneously. concurrent smtp connections go as high 
as 300.


this happens even during night time when it is totally off business 
hours


we tried restarting qmail but no use -- the concurrent connections keep 
increasing till it is back to the same high level of around 250 - 300


we have a serious doubt as to whether we are targetted heavily by 
spammers.


1) we kept concurrency limit to around 300 connections then at around 
235 simultaneous connections authentication fails. when users try to 
send out emails thru port 25 outlook express / postmaster and other 
softwares keep asking for username and password ie authentication fails.


even if we use seperate mail submission port on 587 still authentication 
fails and email users on the servers are not able to send out emails.


2) email sent to domains on this server at this stage randomly bounces 
back with message -- chkuser says unknown recepient.


3) spamassassin fails to scan many emails (this is random) which are 
normally scanned perfectly. surbl look ups fail in many cases. sometimes 
viruses escape.


4) users on server get duplicate copies of emails

5) the qmail isoqlog does give any information on the details of emails 
sent / recd -- basically it does not match what we see in the smtp logs


we have attached herewith a copy of our smtp log

all help would be greatly appreciated

rajesh





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One of our servers has 20k accounts on it and can surge to 450+ smtp 
connections, but it's nearly always caused by delays in rbl lists or issues 
doing dns lookups for spamassassin.  You should send a test message through 
your server to see where it's hanging... if it's spamc then you can disable 
spam scanning using the simcontrol file temporarily (enable for just your 
email until you figure out the cause).  Quite often just switching the 
blacklists file to something smaller, or removing any slow to respond and 
restarting the smtp process