Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Monitorix for Qmail
On 03/30/2012 10:19 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: On 03/30/2012 09:30 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Eric, I have installed Monitorix on my two toasters, but Qmail is not supported. I have one server that may have detected a bug and have been in contact with the software developer and he said he would gladly support Qmail if the statistical data was available. I assured him it was, even though I am not entirely sure. Have you seen or used this software? Would you like to include Monitorix or the developer Jordi Sanfeliu in the project? CJ I have had a look at Monitorix, and had it running at one point. I was interested in it for monitoring multiple VMs. I like the graphs and web interface. I don't like that it requires the whole kit and kaboodle (apache etc) on each machine that's being monitored. I like the architecture of ganglia much better, although ganglia is geared toward clusters to begin with. I did chat online with Jordi briefly at that time. No mention was made of QMT though that I recall. collectl is presently my monitor of choice. I was looking for something which would show me i/o usage per process, and collectl can. It's a pretty impressive piece of software, and it's lean on resources. Monitoring is something I'd like to address with QMT at some point, but it's still a back burner item. If Jordi would like to provide us with something that would be an optional package at this point though, he's more than welcome to join the devel list, where we could assist with his efforts. Thanks for bringing this up, CJ. The developer has sent me this regarding qmail. If someone would comment so I could forward the info to him that would be great. "I've never seen a Qmail system in action, so I can't make an idea of how it shows its mail statistics. So, please, could you send me a full Qmail statistics listing, hence I could start making an idea if Monitorix could introduce support quickly or if it would require special configuration for Qmail. Don't forget to explain what are all the requirements and the exact command line to get such stats. " --
[qmailtoaster] Re: Monitorix for Qmail
On 04/03/2012 09:09 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: The developer has sent me this regarding qmail. If someone would comment so I could forward the info to him that would be great. I've never seen a Qmail system in action, so I can't make an idea of how it shows its mail statistics. So, please, could you send me a full Qmail statistics listing, hence I could start making an idea if Monitorix could introduce support quickly or if it would require special configuration for Qmail. Don't forget to explain what are all the requirements and the exact command line to get such stats. CJ, I'm inclined to point him here: http://wiki.contribs.org/Qmail_Statistics_%28AWStats%29 We need to evaluate the pluses and minuses of awstats vs monitorix. While I haven't done this thoroughly, I'm leaning toward awstats at this point. I like the awstats presentation better, and I think the architecture of monitorix leaves a little to be desired. If someone would like to do a proper evaluation, that'd be nice. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Monitorix for Qmail
On 04/03/2012 09:50 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Do we need only one monitoring solution that works with qmail? I suppose that depends what you consider a monitoring solution to be. I'm not saying that one piece of software can do everything that might be desirable. For example, we presently have both mrtg and isoqlog, which provide different measurements of activity. There are other aspects of monitoring as well. There are system measures that are more performance oriented (load, i/o, cpu) which monitorix is geared toward. I don't know if awstats has anything in that arena or not. There's also nagios, which (I think) is geared more toward monitoring system availability and performance. In general, I see 3 distinct areas that can be monitored. Internally, there are logs and the OS (loads, cpu, i/o, swap). Externally, a system can also be monitored for overall availability (networking and services). A comprehensive monitoring solution will encompass all 3 areas. Given this understanding of a monitoring solution, I would say the answer to your question is yes, we need only one. Of course, everyone is free to use whatever monitoring tools they choose. Monitoring is not a core component of QMT. It is an add-on, much the same as webmail. I would very much like to see a team of volunteers who focus strictly on each of these areas. The monitoring team would focus on various monitoring requirements and solutions, and the webmail team would focus on the various webmail choices that are available. CJ, would you like to head up a monitoring team? I don't see the downside of having more support for the platform. I don't mean to discourage participation in the QMT project, in fact quite the opposite. My primary concern is that the project proceed in an efficient and orderly manner. For instance, a good deal of monitoring is based on logs. I expect that in the not too distant future the present logs will be replaced with a comprehensive rsyslog solution (which is what the major distros are moving toward). So it would be best for any monitoring solutions to be developed against an rsyslog implementation, and not using the logs in the present QMT. If monitoring tools were developed using the existing logs, they would need substantial rework when rsyslog is implemented, making that implementation more difficult and time consuming. I hope this explanation is satisfactory. If it's not, let me know what concerns you. Thanks. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Monitorix for Qmail
On 04/03/2012 09:50 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Do we need only one monitoring solution that works with qmail? I don't see the downside of having more support for the platform. -- Speaking of which, here's a nice combination of things: http://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/show/2832?utm_source=swemailutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=resource -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Monitorix for Qmail
Hi, On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 4:14 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: I also really liked the looks of the graphs that Martin put together of the wiki site soon after it was migrated to a host of his: http://mirror.qmailtoaster.de/awstats/ I'd like to see something equivalent for QMT. I've no idea what's out there presently, but I do know that I think mrtg-toaster and isoqlog-toaster can stand some improvements. Actually, I think awstats can visualize qmail stats: http://wiki.contribs.org/Qmail_Statistics_(AWStats) Haven't tried to get it working with our toaster, though. It would be great to have this kind of stats? Martin also put together some traffic monitoring software about 18 months ago: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.qmail.toaster/31499/match=monitor+accounting I've no idea what that does or the shape it's presently in. If we already have a working solution, it should be perhaps be part of the toaster packages? Can you Martin give us more info about your solution's current state? And thanks Eric for the tip about collectl, I will try it out. Cheers, Peter - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Monitorix for Qmail
On 03/30/2012 09:30 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Eric, I have installed Monitorix on my two toasters, but Qmail is not supported. I have one server that may have detected a bug and have been in contact with the software developer and he said he would gladly support Qmail if the statistical data was available. I assured him it was, even though I am not entirely sure. Have you seen or used this software? Would you like to include Monitorix or the developer Jordi Sanfeliu in the project? CJ I have had a look at Monitorix, and had it running at one point. I was interested in it for monitoring multiple VMs. I like the graphs and web interface. I don't like that it requires the whole kit and kaboodle (apache etc) on each machine that's being monitored. I like the architecture of ganglia much better, although ganglia is geared toward clusters to begin with. I did chat online with Jordi briefly at that time. No mention was made of QMT though that I recall. collectl is presently my monitor of choice. I was looking for something which would show me i/o usage per process, and collectl can. It's a pretty impressive piece of software, and it's lean on resources. Monitoring is something I'd like to address with QMT at some point, but it's still a back burner item. If Jordi would like to provide us with something that would be an optional package at this point though, he's more than welcome to join the devel list, where we could assist with his efforts. Thanks for bringing this up, CJ. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Monitorix for Qmail
On 03/30/2012 10:19 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: On 03/30/2012 09:30 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Eric, I have installed Monitorix on my two toasters, but Qmail is not supported. I have one server that may have detected a bug and have been in contact with the software developer and he said he would gladly support Qmail if the statistical data was available. I assured him it was, even though I am not entirely sure. Have you seen or used this software? Would you like to include Monitorix or the developer Jordi Sanfeliu in the project? CJ I have had a look at Monitorix, and had it running at one point. I was interested in it for monitoring multiple VMs. I like the graphs and web interface. I don't like that it requires the whole kit and kaboodle (apache etc) on each machine that's being monitored. I like the architecture of ganglia much better, although ganglia is geared toward clusters to begin with. I did chat online with Jordi briefly at that time. No mention was made of QMT though that I recall. collectl is presently my monitor of choice. I was looking for something which would show me i/o usage per process, and collectl can. It's a pretty impressive piece of software, and it's lean on resources. Monitoring is something I'd like to address with QMT at some point, but it's still a back burner item. If Jordi would like to provide us with something that would be an optional package at this point though, he's more than welcome to join the devel list, where we could assist with his efforts. Thanks for bringing this up, CJ. I will mention it, and leave it up to him. What is the address to join the devel team? CJ -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | http://yother.com Check out the new Volvo classified resource http://www.volvoclassified.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Monitorix for Qmail
Eric, Have you tried nagios ? 2012/3/30 Cecil Yother, Jr. c...@yother.com On 03/30/2012 10:19 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: On 03/30/2012 09:30 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Eric, I have installed Monitorix on my two toasters, but Qmail is not supported. I have one server that may have detected a bug and have been in contact with the software developer and he said he would gladly support Qmail if the statistical data was available. I assured him it was, even though I am not entirely sure. Have you seen or used this software? Would you like to include Monitorix or the developer Jordi Sanfeliu in the project? CJ I have had a look at Monitorix, and had it running at one point. I was interested in it for monitoring multiple VMs. I like the graphs and web interface. I don't like that it requires the whole kit and kaboodle (apache etc) on each machine that's being monitored. I like the architecture of ganglia much better, although ganglia is geared toward clusters to begin with. I did chat online with Jordi briefly at that time. No mention was made of QMT though that I recall. collectl is presently my monitor of choice. I was looking for something which would show me i/o usage per process, and collectl can. It's a pretty impressive piece of software, and it's lean on resources. Monitoring is something I'd like to address with QMT at some point, but it's still a back burner item. If Jordi would like to provide us with something that would be an optional package at this point though, he's more than welcome to join the devel list, where we could assist with his efforts. Thanks for bringing this up, CJ. I will mention it, and leave it up to him. What is the address to join the devel team? CJ -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | http://yother.com Check out the new Volvo classified resource http://www.volvoclassified.com --**--** - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group ( www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! --**--** - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscribe@** qmailtoaster.com qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-help@** qmailtoaster.com qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Monitorix for Qmail
And why not Cacti ? :))) Tonis On 30.03.2012, at 20:57, Carlos Herrera Polo carlos.herrerap...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, Have you tried nagios ? 2012/3/30 Cecil Yother, Jr. c...@yother.com On 03/30/2012 10:19 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: On 03/30/2012 09:30 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Eric, I have installed Monitorix on my two toasters, but Qmail is not supported. I have one server that may have detected a bug and have been in contact with the software developer and he said he would gladly support Qmail if the statistical data was available. I assured him it was, even though I am not entirely sure. Have you seen or used this software? Would you like to include Monitorix or the developer Jordi Sanfeliu in the project? CJ I have had a look at Monitorix, and had it running at one point. I was interested in it for monitoring multiple VMs. I like the graphs and web interface. I don't like that it requires the whole kit and kaboodle (apache etc) on each machine that's being monitored. I like the architecture of ganglia much better, although ganglia is geared toward clusters to begin with. I did chat online with Jordi briefly at that time. No mention was made of QMT though that I recall. collectl is presently my monitor of choice. I was looking for something which would show me i/o usage per process, and collectl can. It's a pretty impressive piece of software, and it's lean on resources. Monitoring is something I'd like to address with QMT at some point, but it's still a back burner item. If Jordi would like to provide us with something that would be an optional package at this point though, he's more than welcome to join the devel list, where we could assist with his efforts. Thanks for bringing this up, CJ. I will mention it, and leave it up to him. What is the address to join the devel team? CJ -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | http://yother.com Check out the new Volvo classified resource http://www.volvoclassified.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Monitorix for Qmail
FWIW, I've tried both Cacti and Nagios. Monitorix is so much easier to setup, and easier to read IMHO. Simple and effective. On 03/30/2012 11:23 AM, Toni Cosma wrote: And why not Cacti ? :))) Tonis On 30.03.2012, at 20:57, Carlos Herrera Polo carlos.herrerap...@gmail.com mailto:carlos.herrerap...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, Have you tried nagios ? 2012/3/30 Cecil Yother, Jr. c...@yother.com mailto:c...@yother.com On 03/30/2012 10:19 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: On 03/30/2012 09:30 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Eric, I have installed Monitorix on my two toasters, but Qmail is not supported. I have one server that may have detected a bug and have been in contact with the software developer and he said he would gladly support Qmail if the statistical data was available. I assured him it was, even though I am not entirely sure. Have you seen or used this software? Would you like to include Monitorix or the developer Jordi Sanfeliu in the project? CJ I have had a look at Monitorix, and had it running at one point. I was interested in it for monitoring multiple VMs. I like the graphs and web interface. I don't like that it requires the whole kit and kaboodle (apache etc) on each machine that's being monitored. I like the architecture of ganglia much better, although ganglia is geared toward clusters to begin with. I did chat online with Jordi briefly at that time. No mention was made of QMT though that I recall. collectl is presently my monitor of choice. I was looking for something which would show me i/o usage per process, and collectl can. It's a pretty impressive piece of software, and it's lean on resources. Monitoring is something I'd like to address with QMT at some point, but it's still a back burner item. If Jordi would like to provide us with something that would be an optional package at this point though, he's more than welcome to join the devel list, where we could assist with his efforts. Thanks for bringing this up, CJ. I will mention it, and leave it up to him. What is the address to join the devel team? CJ -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | http://yother.com Check out the new Volvo classified resource http://www.volvoclassified.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com http://www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com http://qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | http://yother.com Check out the new Volvo classified resource http://www.volvoclassified.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Monitorix for Qmail
Thanks. Monitorix can send alerts by sms or email ? 2012/3/30, Cecil Yother, Jr. c...@yother.com: FWIW, I've tried both Cacti and Nagios. Monitorix is so much easier to setup, and easier to read IMHO. Simple and effective. On 03/30/2012 11:23 AM, Toni Cosma wrote: And why not Cacti ? :))) Tonis On 30.03.2012, at 20:57, Carlos Herrera Polo carlos.herrerap...@gmail.com mailto:carlos.herrerap...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, Have you tried nagios ? 2012/3/30 Cecil Yother, Jr. c...@yother.com mailto:c...@yother.com On 03/30/2012 10:19 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: On 03/30/2012 09:30 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Eric, I have installed Monitorix on my two toasters, but Qmail is not supported. I have one server that may have detected a bug and have been in contact with the software developer and he said he would gladly support Qmail if the statistical data was available. I assured him it was, even though I am not entirely sure. Have you seen or used this software? Would you like to include Monitorix or the developer Jordi Sanfeliu in the project? CJ I have had a look at Monitorix, and had it running at one point. I was interested in it for monitoring multiple VMs. I like the graphs and web interface. I don't like that it requires the whole kit and kaboodle (apache etc) on each machine that's being monitored. I like the architecture of ganglia much better, although ganglia is geared toward clusters to begin with. I did chat online with Jordi briefly at that time. No mention was made of QMT though that I recall. collectl is presently my monitor of choice. I was looking for something which would show me i/o usage per process, and collectl can. It's a pretty impressive piece of software, and it's lean on resources. Monitoring is something I'd like to address with QMT at some point, but it's still a back burner item. If Jordi would like to provide us with something that would be an optional package at this point though, he's more than welcome to join the devel list, where we could assist with his efforts. Thanks for bringing this up, CJ. I will mention it, and leave it up to him. What is the address to join the devel team? CJ -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | http://yother.com Check out the new Volvo classified resource http://www.volvoclassified.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com http://www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com http://qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | http://yother.com Check out the new Volvo classified resource http://www.volvoclassified.com -- Enviado desde mi dispositivo móvil - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Monitorix for Qmail
It has an alert script option. I am not using it yet so I don't know exactly how it works. On 03/30/2012 11:43 AM, Carlos Herrera Polo wrote: Thanks. Monitorix can send alerts by sms or email ? 2012/3/30, Cecil Yother, Jr.c...@yother.com: FWIW, I've tried both Cacti and Nagios. Monitorix is so much easier to setup, and easier to read IMHO. Simple and effective. On 03/30/2012 11:23 AM, Toni Cosma wrote: And why not Cacti ? :))) Tonis On 30.03.2012, at 20:57, Carlos Herrera Polo carlos.herrerap...@gmail.commailto:carlos.herrerap...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, Have you tried nagios ? 2012/3/30 Cecil Yother, Jr.c...@yother.commailto:c...@yother.com On 03/30/2012 10:19 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: On 03/30/2012 09:30 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Eric, I have installed Monitorix on my two toasters, but Qmail is not supported. I have one server that may have detected a bug and have been in contact with the software developer and he said he would gladly support Qmail if the statistical data was available. I assured him it was, even though I am not entirely sure. Have you seen or used this software? Would you like to include Monitorix or the developer Jordi Sanfeliu in the project? CJ I have had a look at Monitorix, and had it running at one point. I was interested in it for monitoring multiple VMs. I like the graphs and web interface. I don't like that it requires the whole kit and kaboodle (apache etc) on each machine that's being monitored. I like the architecture of ganglia much better, although ganglia is geared toward clusters to begin with. I did chat online with Jordi briefly at that time. No mention was made of QMT though that I recall. collectl is presently my monitor of choice. I was looking for something which would show me i/o usage per process, and collectl can. It's a pretty impressive piece of software, and it's lean on resources. Monitoring is something I'd like to address with QMT at some point, but it's still a back burner item. If Jordi would like to provide us with something that would be an optional package at this point though, he's more than welcome to join the devel list, where we could assist with his efforts. Thanks for bringing this up, CJ. I will mention it, and leave it up to him. What is the address to join the devel team? CJ -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | http://yother.com Check out the new Volvo classified resource http://www.volvoclassified.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.comhttp://www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.comhttp://qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | http://yother.com Check out the new Volvo classified resource http://www.volvoclassified.com -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | http://yother.com Check out the new Volvo classified resource http://www.volvoclassified.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Monitorix for Qmail
On 03/30/2012 10:30 AM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote: I will mention it, and leave it up to him. What is the address to join the devel team? mailto:qmailtoaster-devel-subscr...@qmailtoaster.com -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Monitorix for Qmail
Like I said previously, monitoring isn't high on my list at this time. That being said, I'd would like (probably in conjunction with isoqlog or equivalent upgrade) to collect anonymous statistics from volunteer QMT hosts, which would be published at the QMT site. This data would be absolutely anonymous, and would show numbers of hosts, domains, users, and mail activity. Anonymity can be provided by using sha1 keys for sensitive data (host names and email addresses). The numbers can show trends (hopefully upward) of QMT usage, as well as examples of capacity, and perhaps even point to performance problems. Anonymous data such as cpuinfo, mem, config settings, etc can be included as well. This can all be pretty easily automated with a new qtp script or two. I have ideas about how it might be done, and I expect others do as well. I also really liked the looks of the graphs that Martin put together of the wiki site soon after it was migrated to a host of his: http://mirror.qmailtoaster.de/awstats/ I'd like to see something equivalent for QMT. I've no idea what's out there presently, but I do know that I think mrtg-toaster and isoqlog-toaster can stand some improvements. Martin also put together some traffic monitoring software about 18 months ago: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.qmail.toaster/31499/match=monitor+accounting I've no idea what that does or the shape it's presently in. Whatever we do, let's not reinvent the wheel. I'm sure there are many good things which can be brought together to provide improved monitoring and measuring of QMT performance. I would like whoever tackles this part of QMT (and it's presently up for grabs) to approach it in a comprehensive fashion. As a good bit of this (processing stats) is driven by logs, I think it'd be best if anything developed in this area was built based on rsyslogd logs, as that's what I expect QMT will be using eventually. If we get the reporting software built on rsyslogd, having it might be the push we need at the time to get rsyslogd implemented. Who knows. Just wanted to get these ideas out there. Have at it, folks. -- -Eric 'shubes' On 03/30/2012 12:30 PM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote: It has an alert script option. I am not using it yet so I don't know exactly how it works. On 03/30/2012 11:43 AM, Carlos Herrera Polo wrote: Thanks. Monitorix can send alerts by sms or email ? 2012/3/30, Cecil Yother, Jr.c...@yother.com: FWIW, I've tried both Cacti and Nagios. Monitorix is so much easier to setup, and easier to read IMHO. Simple and effective. On 03/30/2012 11:23 AM, Toni Cosma wrote: And why not Cacti ? :))) Tonis On 30.03.2012, at 20:57, Carlos Herrera Polo carlos.herrerap...@gmail.commailto:carlos.herrerap...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, Have you tried nagios ? 2012/3/30 Cecil Yother, Jr.c...@yother.commailto:c...@yother.com On 03/30/2012 10:19 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: On 03/30/2012 09:30 AM, Maxwell Smart wrote: Eric, I have installed Monitorix on my two toasters, but Qmail is not supported. I have one server that may have detected a bug and have been in contact with the software developer and he said he would gladly support Qmail if the statistical data was available. I assured him it was, even though I am not entirely sure. Have you seen or used this software? Would you like to include Monitorix or the developer Jordi Sanfeliu in the project? CJ I have had a look at Monitorix, and had it running at one point. I was interested in it for monitoring multiple VMs. I like the graphs and web interface. I don't like that it requires the whole kit and kaboodle (apache etc) on each machine that's being monitored. I like the architecture of ganglia much better, although ganglia is geared toward clusters to begin with. I did chat online with Jordi briefly at that time. No mention was made of QMT though that I recall. collectl is presently my monitor of choice. I was looking for something which would show me i/o usage per process, and collectl can. It's a pretty impressive piece of software, and it's lean on resources. Monitoring is something I'd like to address with QMT at some point, but it's still a back burner item. If Jordi would like to provide us with something that would be an optional package at this point though, he's more than welcome to join the devel list, where we could assist with his efforts. Thanks for bringing this up, CJ. I will mention it, and leave it up to him. What is the address to join the devel team? CJ -- Cecil Yother, Jr. cj cj's 2318 Clement Ave Alameda, CA 94501 tel 510.865.2787 | http://yother.com Check out the new Volvo classified resource http://www.volvoclassified.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.comhttp://www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help
