Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamdyke and Spamcop - blacklisting
Yes, I'm an old guy, so I know it's been around since the 90s. But not in as widespread use by "companies" as it is today. Many companies in the 90s had onsite microsoft mail servers, or sun/unix/linux mail servers and a lot of the shared hosting was used by individuals and casual users, and spammers. These days many of the small businesses my clients work with outsource their mail to hosted exchange or google. I realize a lot of spam originates from all the various MS domains and from gmail, but I cannot afford to completely block any of those servers. It kills my clients as they don't get emails from their customers and partners. g On 3/22/2024 10:58 AM, William Silverstein wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2024 4:40 am, Gary Bowling wrote: In the spamdyke config, the default is to use spamcop for blacklisting. I've had a lot of trouble recently with spamcop. They keep adding the outlook.com servers to their database. Which means every company that uses Microsoft office 365 for mail gets blocked. This has caused me a lot of problems as there are a lot of companies in the US that use office365 for mail hosting. I am wondering if in these days we should be blacklisting server ip addresses. So many users are on shared services that blocking entire servers by ip seems like a bad idea. They also block entire ip ranges from hosting providers. Shared hosting has been around since the 1990s. That was part of the idea behind blacklisting. That by blocking IP ranges, it would encourage providers to stop spam because it would cause harm to more than just the spamming customer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamdyke and Spamcop
I had the same problem with office/outlook senders. I had to whitelist a big prefix (40.107.0.0/16) in /etc/spamdyke/whitelist_ip file, because I had tried whitelist_senders before and it wont work. Regards Em 22/03/2024 08:40, Gary Bowling escreveu: In the spamdyke config, the default is to use spamcop for blacklisting. I've had a lot of trouble recently with spamcop. They keep adding the outlook.com servers to their database. Which means every company that uses Microsoft office 365 for mail gets blocked. This has caused me a lot of problems as there are a lot of companies in the US that use office365 for mail hosting. I am wondering if in these days we should be blacklisting server ip addresses. So many users are on shared services that blocking entire servers by ip seems like a bad idea. They also block entire ip ranges from hosting providers. I'm thinking of removing all the blacklisting services in spamdyke. How do you guys handle this? Thanks, Gary - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamdyke and Spamcop - blacklisting
On Fri, March 22, 2024 4:40 am, Gary Bowling wrote: > > > > > In the spamdyke config, the default is to use spamcop for > blacklisting. I've had a lot of trouble recently with spamcop. They > keep adding the outlook.com servers to their database. Which means > every company that uses Microsoft office 365 for mail gets blocked. > This has caused me a lot of problems as there are a lot of companies > in the US that use office365 for mail hosting. > > > > > > I am wondering if in these days we should be blacklisting server ip > addresses. So many users are on shared services that blocking entire > servers by ip seems like a bad idea. They also block entire ip > ranges from hosting providers. > Shared hosting has been around since the 1990s. That was part of the idea behind blacklisting. That by blocking IP ranges, it would encourage providers to stop spam because it would cause harm to more than just the spamming customer. -- William G. Silverstein, Esq. Litigation Counsel Licensed in California. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Spamdyke and Spamcop
In the spamdyke config, the default is to use spamcop for blacklisting. I've had a lot of trouble recently with spamcop. They keep adding the outlook.com servers to their database. Which means every company that uses Microsoft office 365 for mail gets blocked. This has caused me a lot of problems as there are a lot of companies in the US that use office365 for mail hosting. I am wondering if in these days we should be blacklisting server ip addresses. So many users are on shared services that blocking entire servers by ip seems like a bad idea. They also block entire ip ranges from hosting providers. I'm thinking of removing all the blacklisting services in spamdyke. How do you guys handle this? Thanks, Gary - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
