RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

2010-06-08 Thread Patrick Ring
Sometimes it's also helpful to check your .qmail file in the accounts
where this happens.  It might be pushing the mail through the spamfilter
twice.  Remark or delete the second entry in the
/home/vpopmail/domains/yourdomain.com/youruser/.qmail file if this
happens. (at least this has worked for me)

Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:36 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

Anil Aliyan wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I am receiving two copies of every mail from 
 qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com since last couple of 
 weeks, but I realised this yesterday only. This is not the case when I

 receive mails from any other mail domain or email address which makes 
 me believe that there is nothing wrong my side.
 
 Is anybody else facing this problem???
 
 Regards,
 
 Anil Aliyan
 

I wouldn't experience this, as I use gmane.org for list access, and
don't receive any posts directly.

Duplicates are typically the result of a timeout, which could be on
either end. When a timeout occurs, the session does not complete
successfully and the sending server (appropriately) resends the message.

If your server can experience periods of heavy load (usually caused by
multiple concurrent scans), be sure that your timeout settings are not
too restrictive. Spamdyke's idle-timeout-secs setting may need to be
increased a bit. FWIW, I'm presently using 180 for this. 
/var/qmail/control/timeoutsmtpd is another setting that you should
check.

Given that multiple users are seeing duplicates only from this list, I
would guess that perhaps the sending server has experienced periods of
heavy load. Jake??

--
-Eric 'shubes'



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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

2010-06-08 Thread Patrick Ring
Thank you.  I've been trying to figure it out for 4 years now.

Some process seems to add the second entry to the .qmail file along the
way.  I'm not sure if it is when the account is modified by one of the
web interfaces or by some other process.
 
Here is an example of a .qmail file from an account that was receiving
double emails:

| /var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
'Content-Filter:maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
#/home/vpopmail/domains/somedomain.com/mary/Maildir/


Notice I remarked the second line.
After that, the account has been fine ever since.

Every now and again, I get one that somehow reverts back.

Whenever it comes up, I'll look for answers for a day or two, then get
busy and forget about it

Last time it happened was when I was still using the older Qmail Toaster
Admin (http://mail.domain.xyz/admin-toaster/)
I have been using the qcontrol (thank you Jake) for a while now, and I'm
not sure I've seen the occurrence since I started using it.

Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:28 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

Nice catch, Patrick.

Any idea how these entries may have gotten in the .qmail file(s)?
Just curious.

--
-Eric 'shubes'

Patrick Ring wrote:
 Sometimes it's also helpful to check your .qmail file in the accounts 
 where this happens.  It might be pushing the mail through the 
 spamfilter twice.  Remark or delete the second entry in the 
 /home/vpopmail/domains/yourdomain.com/youruser/.qmail file if this 
 happens. (at least this has worked for me)
 
 Patrick M. Ring
 P. Ring Technologies
 Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
 985-868-4200
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:36 AM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.
 
 Anil Aliyan wrote:
 Hi All,

 I am receiving two copies of every mail from 
 qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com since last couple of 
 weeks, but I realised this yesterday only. This is not the case when 
 I
 
 receive mails from any other mail domain or email address which makes

 me believe that there is nothing wrong my side.

 Is anybody else facing this problem???

 Regards,

 Anil Aliyan

 
 I wouldn't experience this, as I use gmane.org for list access, and 
 don't receive any posts directly.
 
 Duplicates are typically the result of a timeout, which could be on 
 either end. When a timeout occurs, the session does not complete 
 successfully and the sending server (appropriately) resends the
message.
 
 If your server can experience periods of heavy load (usually caused by

 multiple concurrent scans), be sure that your timeout settings are not

 too restrictive. Spamdyke's idle-timeout-secs setting may need to be 
 increased a bit. FWIW, I'm presently using 180 for this.
 /var/qmail/control/timeoutsmtpd is another setting that you should 
 check.
 
 Given that multiple users are seeing duplicates only from this list, I

 would guess that perhaps the sending server has experienced periods of

 heavy load. Jake??
 
 --
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

2010-06-08 Thread Anil Aliyan
Hii,

I wasn't expecting such a long discussion on this matter. It got resolved on
its one this afternoon and I am not receiving any them twice anyone. I
rarely touch my server and there is no possibility that things get changed
on their own in the server. Anyways its solved for me on its own as it
started on its own.


Regards,

Anil Aliyan


-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: 09 June 2010 00:08
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

That's ok. Sometimes one thing leads to another. (Who did that song?) ;)
Thanks.
-- 
-Eric 'shubes'


Patrick Ring wrote:
 OK.  I didn't mean to hijack the original thread.
 I'll see what I can come up with on what I brought up. 
 
 Patrick M. Ring
 P. Ring Technologies
 Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
 985-868-4200
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:46 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.
 
 Interesting. I wonder if it's somehow related to either:
 .) the spambox feature (which I believe modifies this file) or perhaps
 .) some side effect of a user changing their preferences.
 
 Might want to test these to see if you can recreate the result. I think
 the former is more likely.
 
 In any case, this seems to point to a problem with the maildrop-toaster
 package. Please start a new thread for further discussion about this.
 
 --
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 Patrick Ring wrote:
 Thank you.  I've been trying to figure it out for 4 years now.

 Some process seems to add the second entry to the .qmail file along 
 the way.  I'm not sure if it is when the account is modified by one of
 
 the web interfaces or by some other process.
  
 Here is an example of a .qmail file from an account that was receiving
 
 double emails:
 
 | /var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
 'Content-Filter:maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter 
 #/home/vpopmail/domains/somedomain.com/mary/Maildir/
 

 Notice I remarked the second line.
 After that, the account has been fine ever since.

 Every now and again, I get one that somehow reverts back.

 Whenever it comes up, I'll look for answers for a day or two, then get
 
 busy and forget about it

 Last time it happened was when I was still using the older Qmail 
 Toaster Admin (http://mail.domain.xyz/admin-toaster/)
 I have been using the qcontrol (thank you Jake) for a while now, and 
 I'm not sure I've seen the occurrence since I started using it.

 Patrick M. Ring
 P. Ring Technologies
 Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
 985-868-4200

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:28 AM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

 Nice catch, Patrick.

 Any idea how these entries may have gotten in the .qmail file(s)?
 Just curious.

 --
 -Eric 'shubes'

 Patrick Ring wrote:
 Sometimes it's also helpful to check your .qmail file in the accounts
 
 where this happens.  It might be pushing the mail through the 
 spamfilter twice.  Remark or delete the second entry in the 
 /home/vpopmail/domains/yourdomain.com/youruser/.qmail file if this 
 happens. (at least this has worked for me)

 Patrick M. Ring
 P. Ring Technologies
 Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
 985-868-4200

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:36 AM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

 Anil Aliyan wrote:
 Hi All,

 I am receiving two copies of every mail from 
 qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com since last couple of 
 weeks, but I realised this yesterday only. This is not the case when
 
 I receive mails from any other mail domain or email address which 
 makes
 me believe that there is nothing wrong my side.

 Is anybody else facing this problem???

 Regards,

 Anil Aliyan

 I wouldn't experience this, as I use gmane.org for list access, and 
 don't receive any posts directly.

 Duplicates are typically the result of a timeout, which could be on 
 either end. When a timeout occurs, the session does not complete 
 successfully and the sending server (appropriately) resends the
 message.
 If your server can experience periods of heavy load (usually caused 
 by
 multiple concurrent scans), be sure that your timeout settings are 
 not
 too restrictive. Spamdyke's idle-timeout-secs setting may need to be 
 increased a bit. FWIW, I'm presently using 180 for this.
 /var/qmail/control/timeoutsmtpd is another setting that you should 
 check.

 Given that multiple users are seeing duplicates only from this list, 
 I
 would guess that perhaps the sending server has experienced periods 
 of
 heavy load. Jake??

 --
 -Eric 'shubes

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

2010-06-08 Thread Patrick Ring
So, no interaction from you for the solution?
(those are the best solutions! ;-) ) 

Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Anil Aliyan [mailto:acali...@gnvfc.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 1:49 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

Hii,

I wasn't expecting such a long discussion on this matter. It got
resolved on its one this afternoon and I am not receiving any them twice
anyone. I rarely touch my server and there is no possibility that things
get changed on their own in the server. Anyways its solved for me on its
own as it started on its own.


Regards,

Anil Aliyan


-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
Sent: 09 June 2010 00:08
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

That's ok. Sometimes one thing leads to another. (Who did that song?) ;)
Thanks.
--
-Eric 'shubes'


Patrick Ring wrote:
 OK.  I didn't mean to hijack the original thread.
 I'll see what I can come up with on what I brought up. 
 
 Patrick M. Ring
 P. Ring Technologies
 Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
 985-868-4200
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:46 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.
 
 Interesting. I wonder if it's somehow related to either:
 .) the spambox feature (which I believe modifies this file) or perhaps
 .) some side effect of a user changing their preferences.
 
 Might want to test these to see if you can recreate the result. I
think
 the former is more likely.
 
 In any case, this seems to point to a problem with the
maildrop-toaster
 package. Please start a new thread for further discussion about this.
 
 --
 -Eric 'shubes'
 
 Patrick Ring wrote:
 Thank you.  I've been trying to figure it out for 4 years now.

 Some process seems to add the second entry to the .qmail file along 
 the way.  I'm not sure if it is when the account is modified by one
of
 
 the web interfaces or by some other process.
  
 Here is an example of a .qmail file from an account that was
receiving
 
 double emails:
 
 | /var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
 'Content-Filter:maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter 
 #/home/vpopmail/domains/somedomain.com/mary/Maildir/
 

 Notice I remarked the second line.
 After that, the account has been fine ever since.

 Every now and again, I get one that somehow reverts back.

 Whenever it comes up, I'll look for answers for a day or two, then
get
 
 busy and forget about it

 Last time it happened was when I was still using the older Qmail 
 Toaster Admin (http://mail.domain.xyz/admin-toaster/)
 I have been using the qcontrol (thank you Jake) for a while now, and 
 I'm not sure I've seen the occurrence since I started using it.

 Patrick M. Ring
 P. Ring Technologies
 Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
 985-868-4200

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:28 AM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

 Nice catch, Patrick.

 Any idea how these entries may have gotten in the .qmail file(s)?
 Just curious.

 --
 -Eric 'shubes'

 Patrick Ring wrote:
 Sometimes it's also helpful to check your .qmail file in the
accounts
 
 where this happens.  It might be pushing the mail through the 
 spamfilter twice.  Remark or delete the second entry in the 
 /home/vpopmail/domains/yourdomain.com/youruser/.qmail file if this 
 happens. (at least this has worked for me)

 Patrick M. Ring
 P. Ring Technologies
 Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
 985-868-4200

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:36 AM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

 Anil Aliyan wrote:
 Hi All,

 I am receiving two copies of every mail from 
 qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com since last couple of 
 weeks, but I realised this yesterday only. This is not the case
when
 
 I receive mails from any other mail domain or email address which 
 makes
 me believe that there is nothing wrong my side.

 Is anybody else facing this problem???

 Regards,

 Anil Aliyan

 I wouldn't experience this, as I use gmane.org for list access, and 
 don't receive any posts directly.

 Duplicates are typically the result of a timeout, which could be on 
 either end. When a timeout occurs, the session does not complete 
 successfully and the sending server (appropriately) resends the
 message.
 If your server can experience periods of heavy load (usually caused 
 by
 multiple concurrent scans), be sure that your timeout settings are 
 not
 too restrictive. Spamdyke's idle-timeout-secs setting

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

2010-06-08 Thread Jim Shupert

I have also seen the - user gets multiple emails -- and then it stops.
i has happened rarely.
and i have told folks that -I am sorry - it is OK - it will stop doing that.
and indeed ... it always has.

I have suspected - but not proven that it *can* happen when the 
following is true
the user get email from 2 locations [ dsktop  laptop ] at one of them 
they are leaving the email on the server fro 5 days.

at the other it is deleted from the server upon reading.

for whatever reason this results in ... the flag not being set -- or 
whatever and the mail can come down ...more than once.


i just offer that
  


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