Re: [QUAD-L] Researchers have grown a beating heart in a jar.
Another Rat success story! 18 years post here and I've heard every success story possible demonstrated on a Rat. If we were rats we'd be walkin. Too bad 4 us...nothing ever seems to get to human trials. Could it be that there's less money in a cure then in the current list of industries dependant on the diseased and infirmed? (Cancer, SCI and related illnesses)? Cure the common cold and remove $10 billion in products yearly. Yeah, I'm cynical. BTW - Did you ever wonder, when they experiment with rat spines, how the rat bowel programs are done? I mean like whose job is it to dill? Perhaps they use a tiny weeny magic bullet? Hmmm. Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do! Billy Lang www.langfoundation.org - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 6:26 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Researchers have grown a beating heart in a jar. University of Minnesota researchers grew a rat heart in a landmark effort that may foreshadow the ability to grow tissue to repair organs, or even create organs for transplant. By JOSEPHINE MARCOTTY, Star Tribune Last update: January 13, 2008 - 11:07 PM Researchers at the University of Minnesota have grown a beating heart in a jar. They used detergents to strip a rat heart of its own cells, leaving behind a white, three-dimensional scaffolding of connective tissue. They then infused it with living cardiac cells from newborn rats, which multiplied and grew into a fully functional heart -- a first in the field of tissue engineering. We've figured out how to use nature's own matrix -- chambers, valves, blood vessels, said Dr. Doris Taylor, the lead researcher and director of the university's Center for Cardiovascular Repair. She said that the technique holds promise for growing human tissue to repair not only hearts, but many other parts of the body. It might be possible, she said, to grow whole organs for patients who need a transplant. Other tissue engineering scientists around the country said there are enormous obstacles to using the technique for people. But they described the work as exciting and a landmark. It's gutsy. I am very impressed with her going right for the meat of it ... and showing remarkable results, said Dr. Buddy Ratner, a University of Washington bioengineer. The research was published online Sunday by Nature Medicine, a journal known for publishing cutting-edge science. Growing human tissue outside the body has been a medical Holy Grail for decades. Progress accelerated in recent years with the use of stem cells, special cells in embryos and adults that can be manipulated to grow into many kinds of tissue. The National Institutes of Health has provided millions of dollars for tissue engineering, but so far researchers have had success with only a few types of human tissue -- primarily bladders, skin, and blood vessels. A challenging task Though growing heart tissue holds the greatest therapeutic promise of all, it also has proven the most difficult. The heart is a complex structure of chambers, valves, and thick-muscled walls fed by an intricate system of blood vessels. And it doesn't just contract; it also twists, as if the muscle were wringing the blood out of the chambers and into the body. Researchers have tried to grow cardiac patches in the lab to use for repairing damaged hearts. But in order to work, tissue patches must be quite thick, and researchers have not found a way to provide the growing tissue with enough oxygen. And the cells need a three-dimensional scaffold on which to grow, one that allows the cells to contract in the right way to do the mechanical work of a heart. Scaffolding is the challenge where we are doing most of our work, said Ratner, who is trying to build an artificial structure with the same kind of material used for contact lenses. Taylor said that one of the rules in her laboratory is to give nature the tools and get out of the way. That's how she and her co-researchers came up with the idea of adopting a strategy that's been used elsewhere for smaller parts of the body. They stripped a heart of its cells -- or de-cellularized it -- leaving behind what's called the extracellular matrix. When you think about a steak, it's the gristle, she said. It provides both the blood-vessel system to deliver oxygen and the three-dimensional structure. The researchers placed it in a glass chamber and gave it oxygen, nutrients and fluids to pump. The cells know they are in a heart and that they should act like a heart, she said. She has done the same thing with a pig heart and believes it could also be done with kidneys, livers, and lungs. Many healing possibilities Some experts said that for transplantation, the technique could prove most useful for organs other than the heart. Long term, a transplant of
[QUAD-L] Dr. William Heft--Our Relationship With Others
Gaday Mates: I am wondering if my connection with the list has been severed? Two days have passed now and not one posting has been received in my email. Or, everyone has already tired of my diatribe and stopped writing. (grin). Seriously, I was just thinking about those of us who lead an entirely different lifestyle than normal people and how our lifestyle effects those around us. Once again, I am only expressing my own thoughts and ideas on these matters. Please do not assume me to be dictatorial or presumptuous with my statements. One of the more difficult issues I have encountered in establishing a relationship with others is asking them to please allow me to complete whatever task I may be attempting, without someone saying, Here, let me do that for you. This naturally comes about when they see you struggling with a project or catch you involved in an efforts of some sort. I have learned as I know all of you have that it is necessary for us to try as much as we can to complete the task we are attempting, regardless of how awkward we may appear. Those who do offer to help have only our best interest in mind, but understandably, they do not realize the amount of self-confidence and pride we gain when we can actually accomplish even the simplest of jobs. Example. Opening a jar, buttoning a button, picking something up. At first we may not succeed, but through repeated attempts, we learn ways in which to overcome the daily obstacles that forever seem to be in our path. Well, enough venting for today. I'm please to actually have someone to express these opinions to. Bill of Ill.
[QUAD-L] Our Relationship With Others
I got your mail but was pondering the issue before making comments. You mentioned the term normal. That is one word in the dictionary that I fail to comprehend in judging others. I submit that when you find a perfect normal, please take a picture of it and share it with the rest of us. Until you achieve the status of being independent, you have to tolerate some of those acts like those who hold the door, say G'Morning and shake your hand, as a greeting. Sometimes, just saying thank you but I'd like to try it myself and stick around I might need your help. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/16/2008 11:45:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gaday Mates: I am wondering if my connection with the list has been severed? Two days have passed now and not one posting has been received in my email. Or, everyone has already tired of my diatribe and stopped writing. (grin). Seriously, I was just thinking about those of us who lead an entirely different lifestyle than normal people and how our lifestyle effects those around us. Once again, I am only expressing my own thoughts and ideas on these matters. Please do not assume me to be dictatorial or presumptuous with my statements. One of the more difficult issues I have encountered in establishing a relationship with others is asking them to please allow me to complete whatever task I may be attempting, without someone saying, Here, let me do that for you. This naturally comes about when they see you struggling with a project or catch you involved in an efforts of some sort. I have learned as I know all of you have that it is necessary for us to try as much as we can to complete the task we are attempting, regardless of how awkward we may appear. Those who do offer to help have only our best interest in mind, but understandably, they do not realize the amount of self-confidence and pride we gain when we can actually accomplish even the simplest of j obs. Example. Opening a jar, buttoning a button, picking something up. At first we may not succeed, but through repeated attempts, we learn ways in which to overcome the daily obstacles that forever seem to be in our path. Well, enough venting for today. I'm please to actually have someone to express these opinions to. Bill of Ill. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [QUAD-L] Our Relationship With Others
Very well put W. I am a high level quad and I need help doing most things. The average AB can't recognize those of us quads or paras that need help and those that don't. Since I'm one of those quads that do need a lot of help, I'm always happy when someone opens a door or picks up something I dropped, etc., etc. It makes my day to know that in this increasingly selfish society, there are still people who will take a moment to help someone out. My type of disability won't get better - only worse over time. I remember having a discussion with an OT and she said 'Sure Dan, you can struggle to get your shirt on or cut up your food etc. but how long will these things take and at what expense to your time and energy reserve? If a PCA does these things for you, you can save time and energy for the really important things in life - like masturbation or working on the computer'. And Bill, would you say the same thing about watching an elderly lady with a bad limp and using a cane struggling to cross a parking lot carrying a large bag of groceries? Go granny, go! Come on you can do it and if you have another stroke trying at least you gave it your best shot. Bravo! Dan - who is grateful for the compassionate ones. At 01:10 PM 1/16/2008 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something that elicited my response: I got your mail but was pondering the issue before making comments. You mentioned the term normal. That is one word in the dictionary that I fail to comprehend in judging others. I submit that when you find a perfect normal, please take a picture of it and share it with the rest of us. Until you achieve the status of being independent, you have to tolerate some of those acts like those who hold the door, say G'Morning and shake your hand, as a greeting. Sometimes, just saying thank you but I'd like to try it myself and stick around I might need your help. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/16/2008 11:45:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gaday Mates: I am wondering if my connection with the list has been severed? Two days have passed now and not one posting has been received in my email. Or, everyone has already tired of my diatribe and stopped writing. (grin). Seriously, I was just thinking about those of us who lead an entirely different lifestyle than normal people and how our lifestyle effects those around us. Once again, I am only expressing my own thoughts and ideas on these matters. Please do not assume me to be dictatorial or presumptuous with my statements. One of the more difficult issues I have encountered in establishing a relationship with others is asking them to please allow me to complete whatever task I may be attempting, without someone saying, Here, let me do that for you. This naturally comes about when they see you struggling with a project or catch you involved in an efforts of some sort. I have learned as I know all of you have that it is necessary for us to try as much as we can to complete the task we are attempting, regardless of how awkward we may appear. Those who do offer to help have only our best interest in mind, but understandably, they do not realize the amount of self-confidence and pride we gain when we can actually accomplish even the simplest of jobs. Example. Opening a jar, buttoning a button, picking something up. At first we may not succeed, but through repeated attempts, we learn ways in which to overcome the daily obstacles that forever seem to be in our path. Well, enough venting for today. I'm please to actually have someone to express these opinions to. Bill of Ill. -- Start the year off right. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.
Re: [QUAD-L] Dr. William Heft--Our Relationship With Others
How different we all are. If someone wants to help me, I just step back and let them proceed. I know I can open a door or remove my jacket - after 40 years in this, I don't feel the need to prove anything to myself any more. People who offer to help really need to do so for some inner fulfillment. I'm cool with that and am more than happy to help them satisfy their inner needs. Sometimes I'm just plain damned tired of opening my own door or pouring my own beer even though I can (in most cases). I agree with Dan about saving my strength for the important things - like unhooking bras and the like. Whenever I spend time in my manual chair, I can really feel the strain in my shoulder blades and fingers. If my dependence on a power chair puts off reconstructive surgery or arthritis - deal me in. I really feel INVINCABLE in my power chair. AZ Dave - (Good health is simply the slowest rate at which you can die.) In a message dated 1/16/2008 10:45:08 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gaday Mates: I am wondering if my connection with the list has been severed? Two days have passed now and not one posting has been received in my email. Or, everyone has already tired of my diatribe and stopped writing. (grin). Seriously, I was just thinking about those of us who lead an entirely different lifestyle than normal people and how our lifestyle effects those around us. Once again, I am only expressing my own thoughts and ideas on these matters. Please do not assume me to be dictatorial or presumptuous with my statements. One of the more difficult issues I have encountered in establishing a relationship with others is asking them to please allow me to complete whatever task I may be attempting, without someone saying, Here, let me do that for you. This naturally comes about when they see you struggling with a project or catch you involved in an efforts of some sort. I have learned as I know all of you have that it is necessary for us to try as much as we can to complete the task we are attempting, regardless of how awkward we may appear. Those who do offer to help have only our best interest in mind, but understandably, they do not realize the amount of self-confidence and pride we gain when we can actually accomplish even the simplest of jobs. Example. Opening a jar, buttoning a button, picking something up. At first we may not succeed, but through repeated attempts, we learn ways in which to overcome the daily obstacles that forever seem to be in our path. Well, enough venting for today. I'm please to actually have someone to express these opinions to. Bill of Ill. (http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/index.html) **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: [QUAD-L] Our Relationship With Others
Im a c7 fairly functional quad, I remember an instance where I pulled up to a gas pump with my van for the sole purpose to see if I could gas my van up in a emergency. I got out and the first challenge was getting the credit card out of the slot once i pushed it in. Immediately some guy stopped and was helping me, this was a double edged sword. I appreciated his help but I didnt meet my personal goal. Eventually I went back and met the goal. In my situation as long as I know i can open a door, make a sandwich and all that fun stuff myself, I dont mind if someone helps me sometimes because it does save energy for the other things during the day.Im just at the ten year mark in a chair and Im trying to become more laidback about these things although I have my bad days. 10 yrs in a chair today! woohoo jan 16 98- jan 16 08 ron c7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very well put W. I am a high level quad and I need help doing most things. The average AB can't recognize those of us quads or paras that need help and those that don't. Since I'm one of those quads that do need a lot of help, I'm always happy when someone opens a door or picks up something I dropped, etc., etc. It makes my day to know that in this increasingly selfish society, there are still people who will take a moment to help someone out. My type of disability won't get better - only worse over time. I remember having a discussion with an OT and she said 'Sure Dan, you can struggle to get your shirt on or cut up your food etc. but how long will these things take and at what expense to your time and energy reserve? If a PCA does these things for you, you can save time and energy for the really important things in life - like masturbation or working on the computer'. And Bill, would you say the same thing about watching an elderly lady with a bad limp and using a cane struggling to cross a parking lot carrying a large bag of groceries? Go granny, go! Come on you can do it and if you have another stroke trying at least you gave it your best shot. Bravo! Dan - who is grateful for the compassionate ones. At 01:10 PM 1/16/2008 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something that elicited my response: I got your mail but was pondering the issue before making comments. You mentioned the term normal. That is one word in the dictionary that I fail to comprehend in judging others. I submit that when you find a perfect normal, please take a picture of it and share it with the rest of us. Until you achieve the status of being independent, you have to tolerate some of those acts like those who hold the door, say G'Morning and shake your hand, as a greeting. Sometimes, just saying thank you but I'd like to try it myself and stick around I might need your help. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/16/2008 11:45:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gaday Mates: I am wondering if my connection with the list has been severed? Two days have passed now and not one posting has been received in my email. Or, everyone has already tired of my diatribe and stopped writing. (grin). Seriously, I was just thinking about those of us who lead an entirely different lifestyle than normal people and how our lifestyle effects those around us. Once again, I am only expressing my own thoughts and ideas on these matters. Please do not assume me to be dictatorial or presumptuous with my statements. One of the more difficult issues I have encountered in establishing a relationship with others is asking them to please allow me to complete whatever task I may be attempting, without someone saying, Here, let me do that for you. This naturally comes about when they see you struggling with a project or catch you involved in an efforts of some sort. I have learned as I know all of you have that it is necessary for us to try as much as we can to complete the task we are attempting, regardless of how awkward we may appear. Those who do offer to help have only our best interest in mind, but understandably, they do not realize the amount of self-confidence and pride we gain when we can actually accomplish even the simplest of jobs. Example. Opening a jar, buttoning a button, picking something up. At first we may not succeed, but through repeated attempts, we learn ways in which to overcome the daily obstacles that forever seem to be in our path. Well, enough venting for today. I'm please to actually have someone to express these opinions to. Bill of Ill. - Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.
Re: [QUAD-L] Beds / Q-List New Members
Hi Bill, Welcome to the Quad-List! The members here really are a wealth of info. I am working hard on getting the last of a surgical wound healed so I'm reading the posts and then reply to as many as possible, but I wanted to welcome you and all of the other new members that have joined the Q-List recently. With Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post Texas, USA Dr. William E. Heft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello John. I am Bill and have just joined the list. I am a T-1 T-2 incomplete quad. About the issue of the bed. I was given one free of charge from our local VFW group. They tradionally do good deeds for the disabled. Just a thought. Bill in Illinois
Re: [QUAD-L] Dragon home edition or professional
Window I don't know. But I'm sure you can e-mail them asking about it. They're really good guys. LTeasley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey angie, do they charge for consultation? Lucinda C-4,5 complete July 31, '05 Mpls., MN - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
RE: [QUAD-L] Dragon home edition or professional
No, they are business. But they're really good guys and know what they're talking about. Elizabeth Treston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Their services are free? - From: Angie Novak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Dragon home edition or professional Bring your questions to these guys: http://www.thespeechgurus.com They'll be able to tell you what you need. You can buy it from them as well. They really are great guys, and they are the experts! -Angie Novak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To those who use dragon Dictate. As my very first time at using these programs, which should I buy? Dragon Professional $200 or Home addition 9 $100 Bobbie - Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[QUAD-L] bed
Hi Everyone, Has medicare helped anyone with a new hospital bed? My bed now is so old and is always in disrepair.I am not happy with the company that I have been dealing with.I need a hospital bed being that I am a C5/6 quad.What kind of bed do you all use? Any suggestions? -- Keep on Rollin, Paul
Re: [QUAD-L] FW: Fw: obama
FACTS:
Religion: United Church of Christ
http://www.issue2008.com/campaign/candidates/barack-obama-candidates/
Church: Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, of which Obama is a member.
A February 6 Chicago Tribune article reported that conservative critics have
seized on Trinity's 12-point Black Value System, especially the portion
relating to 'middleclassness,' as evidence that Obama is a divisive candidate
who rejects mainstream American values and is primarily focused on the black
community. Carlson pointed to the disavowal of the pursuit of
'middleclassness' in the church's tenets, calling the church's mission a
racially exclusive theology and a theology that ministers to one group of
people, based on race. Carlson claimed that Trinity's theology is racially
exclusive and wrong, adding that it's hard to call that Christianity.
Carlson also stated that Trinity's Black Value System calls for
congregants to be 'soldiers for black freedom.' In fact, Trinity encourages
parishioners to be soldiers for Black freedom and the dignity of all humankind
[emphasis added]. The Tribune said that the church's value system was
adopted in 1981 to hold black Christians accountable for taking care of their
own and for continuing to fight oppression. Further, the Tribune reported that
according to Melissa Harris-Lacewell, a professor of politics and
African-American studies at Princeton University, the 'disavowal of the
pursuit of middleclassness' is simply an argument against materialism and the
pursuit of the American standard of wealth. Many white Christian churches also
preach against materialism. http://mediamatters.org/items/200702090009
With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka Dave
C4/5 Complete - 31 Years Post
Texas, USA
Danny Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Obama was raised by Muslim --Father/stepfather but he belongs to the TRINITY
CHRISTIAN CHURCH-- but go to that church web and it main 10 points of belief
is all about the black race onlythis is strange because most christian
beliefs are to support ALL RACES. Dan
Bill Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: v\:* { BEHAVIOR:
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
Someone didn't check snopes very well.
Bill
C6 Incomplete since 7/20/68
Age 57
Leesburg, FL
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
with ketchup.
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Subject: [QUAD-L] FW: Fw: obama
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[QUAD-L] pbs and Kessler that was on TV last night
Hi All.I missed the pbs show last night about Kessler and stem cells, did anyone see it and if so was it good? Thanks, Dan H.
[QUAD-L] FW: helping hand
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: helping handDate: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:58:30 -0500 Someone once said -- Everybody needs a chance to stretch his soul once in a while. That is how I look at receiving help from strangers -- two souls being stretched. Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. Start sharing! _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_012008
[QUAD-L] testing
just testing to see if im posting, lol ron c7
RE: [QUAD-L] Our Relationship With Others
I agree with you Dan. As a high quad, I need help with almost everything. Around the house its not so bad, as I have things set up for me and I can move along at my own pace, but when I go out shopping by myself, its another ballgame. There are only a few handicapped door openers around that I can bump with my wheelchair, most of the time I rely on the Helpful Hannahs of the world. Believe me, I appreciate every little bit of help. I have even been known to ask strangers to give me a drink when it has been 100°. Thanks to the worlds Helpful Hannahs, I have even met some people who have become friends.I do envy those of you who can do things for themselves but that is not my lifestyle, So I say thank you thank you for all those helpers in the world. Joan No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1218 - Release Date: 1/10/2008 1:32 PM
[QUAD-L] Re: Our Relationship With Others
Normal: a: according with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle b: conforming to a type, standard, or regular pattern: occurring naturally normal immunity4 a: of, relating to, or characterized by average intelligence or development. Abnormal: deviating from the normal or average. I quote from one of my statements in my last post, Once again, I am only expressing my own thoughts and ideas on these matters. Please do not assume me to be dictatorial or presumptuous with my statements. Or perhaps I am mistaken. I was under the impression that a member of this list still retained the freedom of expression. I quote from another source. In a move entitled 'Uncommon Valor', a movie that is dear to my heart because I served with many of my beloved brothers in Vietnam. A statement from this movie was made by an actor named Sailor, who said, Man,you don't ever quit. Yes, yes, I've heard it all before, on how men like me are politically incorrect for being involved in that crazy Asian war. I personally don't care, even though the cause of my t-1 2 condition is from Agent Orange. All I'm describing is what is best for me. I haven't and I never will quit trying. If I drop something, and it takes me a half an hour to pick it up, who's going to complain, or will the politically incorrect police come and arrest me? You say that it's important to conserve your strength for the important things, well struggling to exist everyday is my form of freedom, and that to me is the most important thing in life. Perhaps the prejudice on this list run the other way, and apparently I don't qualify as being a legitimate quadriplegic, at least not on this list. I made a mistake by joining, but that's ok, I make many mistakes. I'm sure there may exist other lists such as this one, or maybe there isn't. Either way it doesn't make any difference. Bill of Ill.
Re: [QUAD-L] Our Relationship With Others
I know what you mean Joan. I sometimes am shopping by myself, while my friend is parking a van or on an errand . I often have to rely on persons to help me with the elevator or a door as I cannot push the button for the elevator and a lot of the doors most of the time. Buttons are not always properly wheelchair friendly. I often knocked my glass away from my mouth and I need help with getting my straw again. I find people are very helpful, if you can get their attention to ask for help. I also have to have people get my card off my box that holds papers and a card holding wallet and my phone, iPod. In stores that know me, they even sign my name for purchases. Persons are often attracted by my little yorkie, named Zoe. Sometimes of children come up unintended, I worry that I will roll over them if they will move. Store persons often help me with getting the child to move so they are not injured until their parent comes over to check on them. It is sometimes entertaining to see if people will lend you a helping hand. Dana **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
