Re: [QUAD-L] Stage 4 pressure sore

2012-05-09 Thread ~LittleQuad~
Thanks for the hook-up W!

--- On Thu, 5/3/12, wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com wrote:


From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stage 4 pressure sore
To: littleq...@yahoo.com, quad-list@eskimo.com, daa...@aol.com
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2012, 12:16 PM




Welcome Back, LiL Quad ! Now where's Naughty Nan?
Best Wishes
 

In a message dated 5/3/2012 12:03:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
littleq...@yahoo.com writes:




lots of proteins are great too! some people need to be scared into 
reality...very sad

--- On Fri, 4/27/12, daa...@aol.com daa...@aol.com wrote:


From: daa...@aol.com daa...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stage 4 pressure sore
To: littleq...@yahoo.com, quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, April 27, 2012, 12:30 PM





Hi Amy,

What a great idea. Amy. Way to go.
The guy who lost his leg up to his hips was at Craig for further pressure 
problems. He was a paraplegic and could do his own weight shifts.. It's hard to 
believe what some people can't understand their own bodies. I wonder if she 
went to rehab. It is amazing how quickly sores can go from stage I to stage 3. 
I also take pictures with my digital camera so I can see the wound maybe she 
can not understand because she cannot see the wound.. The nurse for the wound 
care. Dr. gave me a list of foods I need to promote healing, and also they told 
me to take L Argentine. It is a generic.I know that spelling is wrong. You can 
get it through your pharmacy. They did not have in stock, so they ordered for 
me. It's much cheaper than the drink I have taken in the past. I'm also 
drinking a high protein drink by Insure. It only has 2 1/2 g of fat and 9 g of 
protein. Thethe regular Insurer have 9 g of fat. My rehab doctor also said to 
take a high dosage of zinc, I take 225
 mg twice a day by prescription.

Dana,

it would be great if there was Utube, about what happens when sores are 
neglected. It would be so useful for cases such as hers. I use a high profile 
QuadraRoho cushion. I have used Roho since 1978 with great results, other than 
a few times it became deflated and I did not know.
I I think they are wonderful, I did not like the J cushion. They allowed me to 
return.
.

.


In a message dated 4/27/2012 9:31:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
littleq...@yahoo.com writes:
 



find pics on web showing her what it looks like, introduce her to someone who 
had leg amputated due to sorejust to start

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From: daa...@aol.com daa...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Stage 4 pressure sore
To: bobbie...@aol.com, quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012, 12:03 AM






Hi Bobbie,

I am so thankful that you are trying to help her. Don't give up. She may one 
day listen to you before her source serious bone infection or loss of limbs. 
When I was incorrect hospital, I met a guy who had both of his legs removed 
because of bed sores. He had to get around on a cart and I believe he was a 
paraplegic. I don't think he took very good care of himself. His legs were cut 
above the top of the leg.
The minute I see a red spot. I go to my wound care and begin treatment. They 
are really good about healing them. One guy showed me his wound vacuum as I 
have never got to see one before. I think the wound has to be a stage III to 
get Medicare dressing.
Dana.
In a message dated 4/25/2012 9:26:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
bobbie...@aol.com writes:
 

Hi All,
  I have a neighbor upstairs, Dawn, who is C - 6,7 21 years post at 17 She 
has never had a sore .… until now - a stage 4 Pete and I can not seam to get 
her to take it seriously. It's located under her thigh where her seat cushion 
meets her leg (obviously). Dawn told us about 6 months ago that she had a red 
spot on her leg, but she didn't do anything about it the beginning of March 
when she went to a wound center. They told her that she needed a wound-vac, 
keep her leg elevated and to get a new cushion. I'll bet you anything, they 
told her to stay in bed too … but she would never tell us that. She also told 
us that the Doctor said …by using the wound-vac that the sore will heal within 
1 1/2 months. 
 Her insurance wouldn't pay for the wound-vac or wheelchair clinic so she could 
get a new cushion. By doing an appeal she now has the wound-vacn, after a 4 
week delay. To date she has not gotten a new cushion. We keep telling her … 
forget about insurance, go out and buy yourself a cushion. she can afford it. 
BTW ~ her nutrition is hideous and she said her other thigh is now getting red 
too.
 I want to ask you guys, what can we do to convince her just how serious this 
is? Isn't stage 4 to the bone? She actually had a neighbor across the hall from 
her, quad C - 4,5 who lost his leg due to a pressure sore on his leg.
Bobbie








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Re: [QUAD-L] The main causes of liver damage

2012-05-09 Thread wheelchair
Yes it does, in passing the liver.  That was a marketing feature of  the 
pump. Also the pump uses minute amounts by comparison the pill  approach.  I 
think you are safer, but again... that is between you and your  primary.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/9/2012 9:33:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
littleq...@yahoo.com writes:

i have a bacolofen pump, goes directly into  spine...bypass liver damage, i 
hope

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From:  Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] The  main causes of liver damage
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date:  Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 8:10 PM


 
 
 
I take baclofen  dantrium, have my liver tested once a yr  due to dantrium.
 
Eric W  Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com
 
 

 
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Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] The main causes of liver  damage


 

 
I would refer you back to your primary doctor for the right  answer for 
you.  The chemicals I'm thinking of is Bacleofen and  Loreasel.  There could 
also be others.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/8/2012 11:10:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
diannal...@aol.com writes:

I have blood tests every 6 mos  because of some of the medicines I take. 
Now you have me wondering  how effective these are compared to ultra sounds. I 
also take Milk  Thisle for liver function.

I for one agree with you Diannal! Environment, Chemicals and Virus.  
For those taking meds,  this is the reason your doctor wants an ultra sound 
every 3-5  years... to check your liver.  A liver that has up to 75%  will 
still function in making bile and possible for it to repair  itself. Chronic 
liver failure often means the liver is subjected  to conditions beyond the 75%.
Best Wishes





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quad-list  quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, May 8, 2012 12:00  pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] The main causes of liver damage


I for one agree with you Diannal! Environment, Chemicals and Virus.  
For those taking meds, this  is the reason your doctor wants an ultra sound 
every 3-5 years... to  check your liver.  A liver that has up to 75% will 
still  function in making bile and possible for it to repair itself.  Chronic 
liver failure often means the liver is subjected to  conditions beyond the 75%.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 5/8/2012 10:56:37 A.M. Central Daylight  Time, 
_diannal767@aol.com_ 
(http://us.mc1811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=diannal...@aol.com)   writes:

i thought it was  alcohol  chemicals. in my 30+ yrs of livingthis one 
is a  new one! :-)


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From: RONALD L PRACHT _r.pracht@sbcglobal.net_ 
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To:  quad-list _quad-list@eskimo.com_ 
(http://us.mc1811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Sent:  Tue, May 8, 2012 2:05 am
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] The main causes  of liver damage

   
i dont believe this ad...anyway, as a quad what you  think will bring 
you down probally wont be the case, we have  a 1000 ways to kill us and give 
extra trouble.all you can do  is the best you can and take one day at a time.
 

   ron c7

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Subject:  RE: [QUAD-L] The main causes of liver damage
To:  'HOSNI AL-KHATIB' _hosnialkhatib@hotmail.com_ 
(http://us.mc1811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hosnialkha...@hotmail.com) ,  
_quad-list@eskimo.com_ 
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Date:  Monday, May 7, 2012, 6:51 PM

  
 
 
1.   Sleeping too late and waking up too  late are main cause.

Like  oversleeping?

I  have an uncommon sleep schedule, im up late “3am’is” and  up between 5 
and 9……. 



 
 
From: HOSNI  AL-KHATIB [_mailto:hosnialkha...@hotmail.com?_ 
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Subject:  [QUAD-L] The main causes of liver  damage



   

 
 

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Re: [QUAD-L] The main causes of liver damage

2012-05-09 Thread ~LittleQuad~
i have a bacolofen pump, goes directly into spine...bypass liver damage, i hope

--- On Tue, 5/8/12, Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Eric W Rudd c5sc...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] The main causes of liver damage
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 8:10 PM






I take baclofen  dantrium, have my liver tested once a yr due to dantrium.
 
Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com


 

From: wheelch...@aol.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:45 PM
To: diannal...@aol.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] The main causes of liver damage
 

I would refer you back to your primary doctor for the right answer for you.  
The chemicals I'm thinking of is Bacleofen and Loreasel.  There could also be 
others.
Best Wishes
 

In a message dated 5/8/2012 11:10:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
diannal...@aol.com writes:
I have blood tests every 6 mos because of some of the medicines I take. Now you 
have me wondering how effective these are compared to ultra sounds. I also take 
Milk Thisle for liver function.



I for one agree with you Diannal!    Environment, Chemicals and Virus.  For 
those taking meds, this is the reason your doctor wants an ultra sound every 
3-5 years... to check your liver.  A liver that has up to 75% will still 
function in making bile and possible for it to repair itself. Chronic liver 
failure often means the liver is subjected to conditions beyond the 75%.
Best Wishes



-Original Message-
From: wheelchair wheelch...@aol.com
To: diannal767 diannal...@aol.com; r.pracht r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; 
quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, May 8, 2012 12:00 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] The main causes of liver damage



I for one agree with you Diannal!    Environment, Chemicals and Virus.  For 
those taking meds, this is the reason your doctor wants an ultra sound every 
3-5 years... to check your liver.  A liver that has up to 75% will still 
function in making bile and possible for it to repair itself. Chronic liver 
failure often means the liver is subjected to conditions beyond the 75%.
Best Wishes
 

In a message dated 5/8/2012 10:56:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
diannal...@aol.com writes:
i thought it was alcohol  chemicals. in my 30+ yrs of livingthis one is a 
new one! :-)



-Original Message-
From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, May 8, 2012 2:05 am
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] The main causes of liver damage







i dont believe this ad...anyway, as a quad what you think will bring you 
down probally wont be the case, we have a 1000 ways to kill us and give extra 
trouble.all you can do is the best you can and take one day at a time.
 
 
 ron c7

--- On Mon, 5/7/12, Daniel Espinoza da...@immortaldesigns.co wrote:


From: Daniel Espinoza da...@immortaldesigns.co
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] The main causes of liver damage
To: 'HOSNI AL-KHATIB' hosnialkha...@hotmail.com, quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, May 7, 2012, 6:51 PM



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[QUAD-L] Family And Friends

2012-05-09 Thread HOSNI AL-KHATIB


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[QUAD-L] Milk Thistle

2012-05-09 Thread diannal767

As quads, most of us are on meds. I suggest this supplement. Can't hurt but as 
always check w/your doctor if you question it. It aides in liver production.
Dianna


Re: [QUAD-L] Stage 4 pressure sore

2012-05-09 Thread lindakrn


Welcome back Amye! Happy you are here. 

Lindaf 

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