RE: [QUAD-L] myspace

2008-07-26 Thread darel evans

Hey john heres my  my  space addy.Darel-http://www.myspace.com/spacetripper

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http://www.myspace.com/c5sci97
Eric W [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: [QUAD-L] myspace
hi i'm john...now i had a myspace page but changed it.some of u wwere 
andrea,dave,darel if u could be so kind to repost ur addresses.i would really 
really appreciate adding u folks back as friends. thx.
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[QUAD-L] Finland forum ..a moron there.

2008-07-26 Thread darel evans

 Hey freinds..dunno if you remember a post i made awhile back  about flying to 
Finland  to be with my  girlfriend and get married.  I need to get a residence  
permit in order to stay there more than 90 days. She has 3 kids and  it wouldnt 
be right to take them from  their dad  and his side of the family ..plus 
theycant speak english so her coming here isnt really an option at this point.
She was here for a couple of weeks over the 4th of july ..loves America but 
..we just cant live here until the kids grow up a bit and choose to live with 
dad or come with mom here.
   Anyway ..we decided to go to a forum and get advice on the best way to get a 
residence permit for me to live in Finland and you will not believe the first 
reply i got . This moron thinks if youre in a wheelchair your useless .. plain 
and simple ..dont come here cripple and leech off me!I couldnt believe my 
eyes ..he has no idea who i am . Yet because i mentioned the chair ..i'm a 
useless leech!
  I argued a bit with him and my g/f asked me to stop because it was upsetting 
her.  So ..i did and i'm about to explode. He's still spewing his ignorant 
views even though others in the forum  have told him what a rude ass he's being 
.  I thought some of you might   be interested in seeing the height of narrow 
minded views of the handicap and the use of the word cripple  ..he's probably 
anti American too.  Anyway ..go have a look  if you want ..feel free to let him 
know a few things as i was told to stop way before i was done. 
Heres the link :  
http://www.finlandforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=2t=32254st=0sk=tsd=asid=477a1c1ceacaa71017d65a76d777f4a1Darel-
http://www.myspace.com/spacetripper
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RE: [QUAD-L] Court: disability laws protect those unable to have sex

2008-07-26 Thread darel evans

wow that prints really small ..hmm size does matter..
 
..this is weird..all i know is sex is way more than just intercourse..Darel-
http://www.myspace.com/spacetripper



Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:20:24 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
quad-list@eskimo.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [QUAD-L] Court: disability laws 
protect those unable to have sex





http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/5902097.html

Court: disability laws protect those unable to have sex 
Mcclatchy-tribune 
WASHINGTON — A South Carolina breast-cancer survivor has beaten the State 
Department and 
convinced judges in Washington that the inability to have sex is a disability 
protected under federal 
anti-discrimination laws. 

The new appellate-court ruling gives Piedmont, S.C., resident Kathy E. Adams 
another potential shot 
at serving overseas. More broadly, the ruling cracks open the courtroom door 
for additional legal 
challenges by those who are sexually incapacitated. 

'I think it's a major victory for former cancer patients, and for anyone who 
has had their sex life disrupted,' Adams' attorney, David H. 
Shapiro, said Tuesday. 

Adams wants to compel the State Department to hire her as a foreign service 
officer and provide back pay. She'll now go before a jury and 
trial judge, unless the State Department relents first. 

In its 2-1 decision, issued Friday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District 
of Columbia Circuit ruled that Adams has a case against the State 
Department. Most significantly, the D.C. circuit court ruled for its first time 
that laws that protect people with disabilities from discrimination 
cover 'sexual relations.' The ruling overturns a trial judge who'd dismissed 
Adams' case. 

'At the risk of stating the obvious, sex is unquestionably a significant human 
activity, one our species has been engaging in at least since the 
biblical injunction to 'be fruitful and multiply,' ' appellate Judge David 
Tatel wrote. 

Tatel concluded that sex is the kind of 'major life activity' that Congress 
considered when it passed the Rehabilitation Act in 1973. The law, 
like the better-known Americans with Disabilities Act, prohibits discrimination 
against people with disabilities. 

Lawmakers defined a disability as an impairment that 'substantially limits' a 
major life activity. Courts still struggle to explain what that 
means. Last week, for instance, the D.C. appellate court determined that 
'sleeping' is a protected major life activity. 

Walking, seeing and hearing, among many other activities, likewise have been 
identified as 'major.' 

The new ruling comes from what's sometimes called the nation's second-highest 
court, meaning that many lawyers will be parsing its words. 

'As a basic physiological act practiced regularly by a vast portion of the 
population, a cornerstone of family and marital life, a conduit to 
emotional and spiritual fulfillment, and a crucial element in intimate 
relationships, sex easily qualifies as a major life activity,' Tatel wrote. 

A State Department spokeswoman said the department was still reviewing the 
decision. 

Adams couldn't be reached for comment Tuesday. 

The Russian-speaking Adams aced the State Department's Foreign Service written 
and oral exams in 2002, ranking seventh out of 200 
candidates. Living about 15 miles south of Greenville, she was in line to start 
training in January 2004. 

Before her training started, doctors diagnosed her with breast cancer. She 
underwent surgery, but the State Department subsequently denied her entry into 
the Foreign Service. 

'The department could not guarantee (her) access to the required medical 
follow-up and surveillance at all overseas assignments,' a State 
Department nurse testified. 

State Department officials added, and the dissenting appellate judge agreed, 
that the department didn't know about Adams' sexual disability 
when it declined to hire her. The court majority, however, reasoned that 'it 
makes no difference whether an employer has precise knowledge 
of an employee's substantial limitation' so long as the employer knows about 
the impairment. 

In this case, the State Department knew about Adams' breast cancer but didn't 
know how the cancer treatments impaired her sex life. 
Adams underwent a mastectomy, had her ovaries and fallopian tubes removed, 
gained weight and felt her libido wither. 

'I now find that the prospect of dating and developing an intimate relationship 
is just too painful and frightening,' Adams, who is single, 
stated in a declaration. 


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RE: [QUAD-L] Finland forum ..a moron there.

2008-07-26 Thread darel evans

Well youre right..and i'm not disputing that..i probably should have asked  the 
question differently  but i was being direct ..something the finns appreciate . 
It wasn't so much as what he said but how he said it ..and his views are not 
shared by most others in that forum.
   I also retract that last thing  i said in my post here  ..i mainly just am 
interested in getting the opinions of other disabled people on this.  Not 
really asking you to join my fight ...but i wont discourage it either if 
someone wants to voice something .
   The man totaly judged me as useless at the mere mention of a chair.  and yes 
..i'm appalled.  It isnt the views of all finns . 
  I really dont want to go there ..i love my country  and dont care to leave it 
. It's been very good to me .  But this is a matter of the heart ...and well 
..i'm going for that reason alone.  
   I dont think i blame him for not wanting people to come in and leech his tax 
euro's..we have that unpleasant problem here. I do have a problem with how he 
can think thats my sole intention just because i'm in a chair.
 But thanks man ..

Darel-http://www.myspace.com/spacetripper

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:58:48 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: [QUAD-L] Finland forum ..a moron there.








 
We American have a way of telling other countries how to lead their lives, 
government and establish their laws.  Maybe that is why we are often 
considered Ugly Americans as we travel abroad.  When you leave the 
protection of American soil, you also lose the protection of the Americans With 
Disabilities, along with many other laws of our country.
 
It is also pretty common with the human population that what we don't 
understand, we fear.  And that which we fear, we reject.  I personally 
don't know the person in Finland who has chosen to respond to your posted 
question in a Finland newspaper.  Actually, I don't know you that well, 
with all due respect.  I do know that long before July of 1992 there were 
many people in this country that felt the same way and would have responded to 
your posting in an American Newspaper in like fashion.  That is purely... 
human nature.  Granted, its not very nice, but very human.
 
For me personally, I choose my battles here in the USA.  I'm not going 
to go abroad and tell those in another country that I wish to enter their 
country and live as I did in Good Ole USA.  To some personalities, it is 
considered baiting and you will received some emotional responses as you have 
witness.
 
Could you possible imagine someone in South America, in a wheelchair, 
posting in an American Newspaper inquiring about Quick Entry into the United 
States.  I would imagine the very same kind of response as you witnessed in 
Finland.
 
I wish for you the very best and much success in your endeavor to live in 
Finland.  But I won't hop the International Band Wagon and challenge those 
in other country about their laws and practices.  I sincerely hope that you 
and your new spouse will do well and that you will find a rewarding occupation 
while a member of the Finland Population.  But getting involved in your 
argument... no thanks.
 
Best Wishes
W

In a message dated 7/26/2008 4:03:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Hey freinds..dunno if you remember a post i made awhile 
  back  about flying to Finland  to be with my  girlfriend and 
  get married.  I need to get a residence  permit in order to stay 
  there more than 90 days. She has 3 kids and  it wouldnt be right to 
  take them from  their dad  and his side of the family ..plus 
  theycant speak english so her coming here isnt really an option at this 
  point.
She was here for a couple of weeks over the 4th 
  of july ..loves America but ..we just cant live here until the kids grow up a 
  bit and choose to live with dad or come with mom here.
   Anyway 
  ..we decided to go to a forum and get advice on the best way to get a 
  residence permit for me to live in Finland and you will not 
  believe the first reply i got . This moron thinks if youre in a 
  wheelchair your useless .. plain and simple ..dont come here cripple and 
leech 
  off me!I couldnt believe my eyes ..he has no idea who i am 
  . Yet because i mentioned the chair ..i'm a useless leech!
  I argued 
  a bit with him and my g/f asked me to stop because it was upsetting her.  
  So ..i did and i'm about to explode. He's still spewing his ignorant views 
  even though others in the forum  have told him what a rude ass he's being 
  .  I thought some of you might   be interested in seeing the 
  height of narrow minded views of the handicap and the use of the word 
  cripple  ..he's probably anti American too.  Anyway ..go have a 
  look  if you want ..feel free to let him know a few things as i was told 
  to stop way before i was done. 
Heres the link :  

RE: [QUAD-L] Finland forum ..a moron there.

2008-07-26 Thread darel evans

yeah thats why my g/f told me to quit arguing with him ...never will change 
...but damn it makes me mad !

Darel-http://www.myspace.com/spacetripper

Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:13:19 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Finland forum ..a moron there.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com

 Yes,  Darel--- a lot of ignorant people and racist people also, I have had 
some tell me, us disabled suck up their air-and should all be executed.   
Just like the KKK or SKINHEADS or BLACK PANTHERSyou can argue all you 
care too, but still won't change their views.   Dan H.

darel evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Hey freinds..dunno if you remember 
a post i made awhile back  about flying to Finland  to be with my  girlfriend 
and get married.  I need to get a residence  permit in order to stay
 there more than 90 days. She has 3 kids and  it wouldnt be right to take them 
from  their dad  and his side of the family ..plus theycant speak english so 
her coming here isnt really an option at this point.
She was here for a couple of weeks over the 4th of july ..loves America but 
..we just cant live here until the kids grow up a bit and choose to live with 
dad or come with mom here.
   Anyway ..we decided to go to a forum and get advice on the best way to get a 
residence permit for me to live in Finland and you will not believe the first 
reply i got . This moron thinks if youre in a wheelchair your useless .. plain 
and simple ..dont come here cripple and leech off me!I couldnt believe my 
eyes ..he has no idea who i am . Yet because i mentioned the chair ..i'm a 
useless leech!
  I argued a bit with him and my g/f asked me to stop because it was upsetting 
her.  So ..i did
 and i'm about to explode. He's still spewing his ignorant views even though 
others in the forum  have told him what a rude ass he's being .  I thought some 
of you might   be interested in seeing the height of narrow minded views of the 
handicap and the use of the word cripple  ..he's probably anti American too.  
Anyway ..go have a look  if you want ..feel free to let him know a few things 
as i was told to stop way before i was done. 
Heres the link :  
http://www.finlandforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=2t=32254st=0sk=tsd=asid=477a1c1ceacaa71017d65a76d777f4a1

Darel-http://www.myspace.com/spacetripper

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RE: [QUAD-L] air travel-alone

2008-06-09 Thread darel evans

Hey thanks,  yeah i bet it's exciting..are they goingto help me with tranfers 
on the plane? ..i have flown once in 1984 ..and my exwife  helped me ..but i 
will be alone .  And  will the airline allow me to take my electric chair?  I 
remember an issue with my batteries in '84  and i had to leave them . Someone 
said they allow gel batterys. I think that's what i have.
   When i tell some people i'm planning to do this they look at me like i've 
lost my mind.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 19:00:52 -0400Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 
air travel-aloneTo: quad-list@eskimo.com

Flying international, is more exciting and adventuresome than flying domestic 
for an TAB or a DAB.
Consider the daily services you require and hope that you've planned ahead when 
you arrive in Finland and hope they speak better English then you Finnish.  
Besides the good time and all the fun you will have, make sure that you have 
back up medicine, just in case or know where you can purchase in Finland.
 
Expect to have a great time and I hope you let us know.
Best Wishes
 

In a message dated 6/8/2008 4:00:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
hi everyone,  im a semi functioning quad..c-6  ..semi because i have use of my 
right hand ..and ..fairly strong ..blah blah .. i've actualy been posting here 
off and on since '98 i think. anyway ..have any of you  ever flown anywhere 
alone and whats it like ?   im planning to fly to finland later and  i really 
have no idea what to expect.  Any tips would be greatly appreciated.Thanks 
alot.Darel

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RE: [QUAD-L] myspace

2008-06-09 Thread darel evans

Hey Eric  heres my  my space url  ..add me  ok? ..i'd like to have everyone on 
the list.
http://www.myspace.com/spacetripper 
 
Darel 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:28:46 
-0500Subject: [QUAD-L] myspace



i don't mean to spam nor draw away but myspace is great i'd like 2 get a column 
goin 
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RE: [QUAD-L] air travel-alone

2008-06-09 Thread darel evans

yeah theres alot i have to find out, i'm not leaving till november and i'm  
trying to gather information..figured  i could pick up some information  on the 
good 'ol quad list.
  My mission in Finland  ..well ..that's where my fiancee lives and i'll be 
getting married. She's comin' here in 3 weeks then  i'll go there in november. 
She's  getting information on the things i'll need there. My main concern is 
getting there ..kinda wish i could ride a cargo ship instead...Maybe  in crate 
of bananas.  ..hey i like bananas.
  Anyway , yes , i'll keep in touch and maybe even  torment everyone with  
pictures.
 
 
http://www.myspace.com/spacetripper 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 18:55:16 -0400To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
[QUAD-L] air travel-alone

Lost your mind, is past tense.  Losing your mind, is more present. (lol)
 
I didn't want to give you the impression that your endeavor would be 
trouble-free as you ventured from your secure, comfort zone.
You have quite a bit of homework ahead of you to cement the paperwork, before 
you leave the safety of your home.  When traveling abroad, make sure that you 
have a copy of your health records and doctors and hospitals in Finland, don't 
know you from Chris Reeve and there is always a chance that you might become a 
visitor to one of Finland's hospitals.
I can't imagine you casing your fate to the wind but I don't know you well 
enough.  I'm sure that others are also wondering about your goals and how you 
hope to achieve them in Finland, besides vacations and having a great time.
I am surprised that you have committed yourself to a voyage to Finland and 
still don't know some of the guidelines established by the air industry for 
safe passage.  Best to ask your airline their policies, and who will have the 
pleasure of transferring you from and to your airchair and what you should pack 
and what you are required to leave at home.
Keep us informed and hope you bring your computer with you so that you can 
write back and tell us all what a great time you are having.
 
Best Wishes
W

In a message dated 6/9/2008 5:33:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
Hey thanks,  yeah i bet it's exciting..are they goingto help me with tranfers 
on the plane? ..i have flown once in 1984 ..and my exwife  helped me ..but i 
will be alone .  And  will the airline allow me to take my electric chair?  I 
remember an issue with my batteries in '84  and i had to leave them . Someone 
said they allow gel batterys. I think that's what i have.   When i tell some 
people i'm planning to do this they look at me like i've lost my mind.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 19:00:52 -0400Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 
air travel-aloneTo: quad-list@eskimo.com
Flying international, is more exciting and adventuresome than flying domestic 
for an TAB or a DAB.
Consider the daily services you require and hope that you've planned ahead when 
you arrive in Finland and hope they speak better English then you Finnish.  
Besides the good time and all the fun you will have, make sure that you have 
back up medicine, just in case or know where you can purchase in Finland.
 
Expect to have a great time and I hope you let us know.
Best Wishes
 

In a message dated 6/8/2008 4:00:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
hi everyone,  im a semi functioning quad..c-6  ..semi because i have use of my 
right hand ..and ..fairly strong ..blah blah .. i've actualy been posting here 
off and on since '98 i think. anyway ..have any of you  ever flown anywhere 
alone and whats it like ?   im planning to fly to finland later and  i really 
have no idea what to expect.  Any tips would be greatly appreciated.Thanks 
alot.Darel

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[QUAD-L] air travel-alone

2008-06-08 Thread darel evans

hi everyone,  im a semi functioning quad..c-6  ..semi because i have use of my 
right hand ..and ..fairly strong ..blah blah .. i've actualy been posting here 
off and on since '98 i think.
 anyway ..have any of you  ever flown anywhere alone and whats it like ?   im 
planning to fly to finland later and  i really have no idea what to expect.
  Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks alot.
Darel
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