[QUAD-L] Dave / Nursing Home
Hi Everyone, This is my first time posting to the list and what prompted me was Dave's post that he was "probably the only list member in a nursing home". No, you're not, my friend,I have been living inone now for three years having no choice between the messed up policies of Medicaid Medicarehere in Florida. Please, don't even bother mentioning the Olmstead Decision I consider that a laugh. Don't get me wrong I actually feel lucky to have found this place and I'm treated well, but I miss having a normal life, going places (live in rural area no affordable public transportion) and feeling like a part of society. As for assisted suicide I certainly understand how one could reach that decision andwon't lie have consideredsuicide many times myself, but am now glad I didn't carry through.As the years go by and physically things continue to deteriorate though I am certain suicide/euthanasia will once again rear its for me and, though it saddens me, if its ever legalized is probably an option I'll take. Off this sad subject: I just want to say Iam so pleased to have found this listand am learning much and deriving great hopefrom all your posts! Thank you, Jim Lubin, you're the bomb, baby. ;-) Stephanie Dial c3/c4 18 yrs post
Re: [QUAD-L] Dave / Nursing Home
In a message dated 2/28/2005 4:33:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Everyone, This is my first time posting to the list and what prompted me was Dave's post that he was "probably the only list member in a nursing home". No, you're not, my friend, I have been living in one now for three years having no choice between the messed up policies of Medicaid Medicare here in Florida. Please, don't even bother mentioning the Olmstead Decision I consider that a laugh. Don't get me wrong I actually feel lucky to have found this place and I'm treated well, but I miss having a normal life, going places (live in rural area no affordable public transportion) and feeling like a part of society. As for assisted suicide I certainly understand how one could reach that decision and won't lie have considered suicide many times myself, but am now glad I didn't carry through. As the years go by and physically things continue to deteriorate though I am certain suicide/euthanasia will once again rear its for me and, though it saddens me, if its ever legalized is probably an option I'll take. Off this sad subject: I just want to say I am so pleased to have found this list and am learning much and deriving great hope from all your posts! Thank you, Jim Lubin, you're the bomb, baby. ;-) Stephanie Dial c3/c4 18 yrs post Stephanie n Dave..it truely hurts me that you guys remain locked away; and Steph, i'm forwarding your email to my BSCIP caseworker coz that program, the way i understand it, is for keeping young bright minds out of nursing homes. I'm really happy that this list is here, too. It's my connection to people that understand my life...well, a little bit, anyway. I would love to see you and Dave out of those prisons... Now, here's my take on euthanasia: I'm all for having the right to get out with some dignity. It makes no sense to me that we put animals down to provide mercy, but force people to suffer right to the long drawn out bitter end, no matter how horrible it is. I've thought a lot about this, and i know drug dealers that i'll get enough oxycotins to do the job when i'm ready.;...i just ain't readyi love my life, and see past the bars of prison, but if one day that prison becomes too much, then i want a choice. peacetony
RE: [QUAD-L] Dave / Nursing Home
Title: Message That was great advice, Tony! This group always has such great ideas, I'm sure we might have suggestions for Dave Stephanie or others out there. Let's hear everybody's ideas. Well wishes are cool but. W. do your magic (if there is an idea). What does anyone know about advocates? -CW -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 5:39 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Dave / Nursing HomeIn a message dated 2/28/2005 4:33:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Everyone, This is my first time posting to the list and what prompted me was Dave's post that he was "probably the only list member in a nursing home". No, you're not, my friend, I have been living in one now for three years having no choice between the messed up policies of Medicaid Medicare here in Florida. Please, don't even bother mentioning the Olmstead Decision I consider that a laugh. Don't get me wrong I actually feel lucky to have found this place and I'm treated well, but I miss having a normal life, going places (live in rural area no affordable public transportion) and feeling like a part of society. As for assisted suicide I certainly understand how one could reach that decision and won't lie have considered suicide many times myself, but am now glad I didn't carry through. As the years go by and physically things continue to deteriorate though I am certain suicide/euthanasia will once again rear its for me and, though it saddens me, if its ever legalized is probably an option I'll take. Off this sad subject: I just want to say I am so pleased to have found this list and am learning much and deriving great hope from all your posts! Thank you, Jim Lubin, you're the bomb, baby. ;-) Stephanie Dialc3/c4 18 yrs post Stephanie n Dave..it truely hurts me that you guys remain locked away; and Steph, i'm forwarding your email to my BSCIP caseworker coz that program, the way i understand it, is for keeping young bright minds out of nursing homes.I'm really happy that this list is here, too. It's my connection to people that understand my life...well, a little bit, anyway.I would love to see you and Dave out of those prisons...Now, here's my take on euthanasia: I'm all for having the right to get out with some dignity. It makes no sense to me that we put animals down to provide mercy, but force people to suffer right to the long drawn out bitter end, no matter how horrible it is.I've thought a lot about this, and i know drug dealers that i'll get enough oxycotins to do the job when i'm ready.;...i just ain't readyi love my life, and see past the bars of prison, but if one day that prison becomes too much, then i want a choice.peacetony
Re: [QUAD-L] Dave / Nursing Home
Title: Re: [QUAD-L] Dave / Nursing Home Like Stacy said you can get out. Its going 2 take work, I worked hard 2 find accessible housing and getting everything set-up. But I wanted it and dd it. It helps 2 locate others in our area see if there are units where they live, what agencies they like/ dont like. Contact area living center 4 assistance contact list. On 2/28/05 6:44 PM, Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those of you in nursing homes that want to get out can. It takes a lot of work and will be a frustrating process. It's letter writing and a lot of phone calls. there are programs that will help you but it's up to you to find the way out. If things don't go your way trying to find out what they are or what they are about, that is where your politicians come in. Take it from me first hand that it works. I couldn't find housing or help when I was coming out of rehab but I finally got it worked out. It took me months. I got to rehab in August and shortly after found out my discharge date which was going to be in November. Luckily I wasn't ready to be discharged and then since I hadn't found a place yet, my doctor kept me there an extra couple of weeks. It was december 22 before I got out and didnt know I had a place til the 21st. I got lucky someone in our community knew of my situation (news) and helped with a house that wasn't completely accessible for my needs. Not only was I on the news put continued writing the local paper that did an article on me when I got sick. I continued to write an update of my progress to the reporter that did the original article. If you want out of there, no one is going to come rescue you, it's going to take work from you to get yourself out of there. If you need any advice, help, wanna chat, email me and I'll do what I can to help you. It breaks my heart that you have to be in there. It's no place for a young person to be. Injury or not. Stacy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Dave / Nursing Home In a message dated 2/28/2005 4:33:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Everyone, This is my first time posting to the list and what prompted me was Dave's post that he was probably the only list member in a nursing home. No, you're not, my friend, I have been living in one now for three years having no choice between the messed up policies of Medicaid Medicare here in Florida. Please, don't even bother mentioning the Olmstead Decision I consider that a laugh. Don't get me wrong I actually feel lucky to have found this place and I'm treated well, but I miss having a normal life, going places (live in rural area no affordable public transportion) and feeling like a part of society. As for assisted suicide I certainly understand how one could reach that decision and won't lie have considered suicide many times myself, but am now glad I didn't carry through. As the years go by and physically things continue to deteriorate though I am certain suicide/euthanasia will once again rear its for me and, though it saddens me, if its ever legalized is probably an option I'll take. Off this sad subject: I just want to say I am so pleased to have found this list and am learning much and deriving great hope from all your posts! Thank you, Jim Lubin, you're the bomb, baby. ;-) Stephanie Dial c3/c4 18 yrs post Stephanie n Dave..it truely hurts me that you guys remain locked away; and Steph, i'm forwarding your email to my BSCIP caseworker coz that program, the way i understand it, is for keeping young bright minds out of nursing homes. I'm really happy that this list is here, too. It's my connection to people that understand my life...well, a little bit, anyway. I would love to see you and Dave out of those prisons... Now, here's my take on euthanasia: I'm all for having the right to get out with some dignity. It makes no sense to me that we put animals down to provide mercy, but force people to suffer right to the long drawn out bitter end, no matter how horrible it is. I've thought a lot about this, and i know drug dealers that i'll get enough oxycotins to do the job when i'm ready.;...i just ain't readyi love my life, and see past the bars of prison, but if one day that prison becomes too much, then i want a choice. peacetony
Re: [QUAD-L] Dave / Nursing Home
Hi Stephanie, Welcome and thanks for posting. It's great that you raised your voice on this topic. Being in a nursing home is sad. I think your views on death are probably closer to the wishes of more than we think. I know I'm not just going tolive to be alive. Things are enough now that I'm in my right mind and physically strong, but when I'm old and weak I would rather move on than just lay there alive. Thanks again for your post -- it shows you are strong willed. I think Jim Lupin is pretty cool, too! :) Stay strong! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA"S. Dial" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, This is my first time posting to the list and what prompted me was Dave's post that he was "probably the only list member in a nursing home". No, you're not, my friend,I have been living inone now for three years having no choice between the messed up policies of Medicaid Medicarehere in Florida. Please, don't even bother mentioning the Olmstead Decision I consider that a laugh. Don't get me wrong I actually feel lucky to have found this place and I'm treated well, but I miss having a normal life, going places (live in rural area no affordable public transportion) and feeling like a part of society. As for assisted suicide I certainly understand how one could reach that decision andwon't lie have consideredsuicide many times myself, but am now glad I didn't carry through.As the years go by and physically things continue to deteriorate though I am certain suicide/euthanasia will once agai! n rear its for me and, though it saddens me, if its ever legalized is probably an option I'll take. Off this sad subject: I just want to say Iam so pleased to have found this listand am learning much and deriving great hopefrom all your posts! Thank you, Jim Lubin, you're the bomb, baby. ;-) Stephanie Dial c3/c4 18 yrs post
Re: [QUAD-L] Dave / Nursing Home
Hi Tony, Or should it be 'Sir Tony' Knight to the damsel's distress! With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 28 Years PostTexas, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/28/2005 4:33:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Everyone, This is my first time posting to the list and what prompted me was Dave's post that he was "probably the only list member in a nursing home". No, you're not, my friend, I have been living in one now for three years having no choice between the messed up policies of Medicaid Medicare here in Florida. Please, don't even bother mentioning the Olmstead Decision I consider that a laugh. Don't get me wrong I actu! ally feel lucky to have found this place and I'm treated well, but I miss having a normal life, going places (live in rural area no affordable public transportion) and feeling like a part of society. As for assisted suicide I certainly understand how one could reach that decision and won't lie have considered suicide many times myself, but am now glad I didn't carry through. As the years go by and physically things continue to deteriorate though I am certain suicide/euthanasia will once again rear its for me and, though it saddens me, if its ever legalized is probably an option I'll take. Off this sad subject: I just want to say I am so pleased to have found this list and am lear! ning much and deriving great hope from all your posts! Thank you, Jim Lubin, you're the bomb, baby. ;-) Stephanie Dialc3/c4 18 yrs post Stephanie n Dave..it truely hurts me that you guys remain locked away; and Steph, i'm forwarding your email to my BSCIP caseworker coz that program, the way i understand it, is for keeping young bright minds out of nursing homes.I'm really happy that this list is here, too. It's my connection to people that understand my life...well, a little bit, anyway.I would love to see you and Dave out of those prisons...Now, here's my take on euthanasia: I'm all for having the right to get out with some dignity. It makes no sense to me that we put animals down to provide mercy, but force people to suffer right to the long drawn out bitter end, no matter how horrible it is.I've thought a lot about this, and i know drug dealers that i'll get enough oxycotins to do the job when i'm ready.;...i just ain't readyi love my life, and see past the bars of prison, but if one day that prison becomes too much, t! hen i want a choice.peacetony
