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Danny, You've gotten some great input on your work question particularly Bob's detailed input on Web development and the suggestion to contact your local Vocational Rehabilitation office for their assistance. I strongly concur with the VR recommendation as they may have lines on jobs you are not aware of and they may be able to assist you in paying for any training or education you wish to pursue to enhance your skill sets. One thing that is not well known is that while most federal government jobs are only open to existing federal employees, there is an exception for qualified individuals with disabilities. In fact, there are affirmative employment programs in place that seek out individuals with disabilities for employment and some of the positions are conducive to telecommuting which can be extremely helpful to quads like us. I speak from experience having worked federal IT related positions for 17 years until opting for an early retirement five years ago. I also got my additional training and internship for these federal jobs with the assistance of my state Vocational Rehabilitation Agency. I'll be happy to elaborate if you have any questions. Best of luck in your quest for work. Steve - C4, 25 years On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 6:22 AM, Danny da...@immortaldesigns.co wrote: I’m technically a c2 incomplete asymmetrical quadriplegic and wondering if you guys could give me ideas work I’m able to do? I can move my right arm only a little up to my wrist, my bicep is strong but my tricep is weak so I can barely move my arm since extending my arm takes effort and my arm will start curling in eventually, get stuck and I need assistance extending it again. My left arm is completely paralyzed… I can use a computer with the use of a mouth joystick called a quadjoy and onscreen keyboard. I also have a trach atm… The reason I mentioned what function I have was purely to help you with recommendations. Before my accident I was a network security engineer and computer programmer. I’m good with math, technology, science and problem solving. Thanks in advance for your suggestions and feedback -Danny
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I'll look into it From: Fragile [mailto:swl...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:31 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Cc: quad-list Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Work question Danny, can you contact a local Department of Vocational Rehabilitation? If there is one near you. On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 4:22 AM, Danny da...@immortaldesigns.co mailto:da...@immortaldesigns.co wrote: I'm technically a c2 incomplete asymmetrical quadriplegic and wondering if you guys could give me ideas work I'm able to do? I can move my right arm only a little up to my wrist, my bicep is strong but my tricep is weak so I can barely move my arm since extending my arm takes effort and my arm will start curling in eventually, get stuck and I need assistance extending it again. My left arm is completely paralyzed. I can use a computer with the use of a mouth joystick called a quadjoy and onscreen keyboard. I also have a trach atm. The reason I mentioned what function I have was purely to help you with recommendations. Before my accident I was a network security engineer and computer programmer. I'm good with math, technology, science and problem solving. Thanks in advance for your suggestions and feedback -Danny
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I thought George Bernard Shaw said that.or something similar. Or I could be full of baloney, a pretty common condition for me. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: wheelch...@aol.com Date: September 22, 2013, 5:51:08 PM EDT To: c5sc...@gmail.com, quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Work question Actually, I should have given credit to Ben Franklin.and his faithful kite. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/22/2013 4:47:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, c5sc...@gmail.com writes: Is that quote from Jack Black in School of Rock? - Original Message - From: wheelch...@aol.com To: da...@immortaldesigns.co ; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Work question Those who can do. Those who can't, teach those who can do. I'd consider going back to school and get those certifications. Best Wishes In a message dated 9/21/2013 11:25:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, da...@immortaldesigns.co writes: All my certs have lapsed since you need to renew them but they were A+, N+, CCNA, CCNP, CCSP. I never got any degrees but I did goto college for a while…
[QUAD-L] Work question....
I'm technically a c2 incomplete asymmetrical quadriplegic and wondering if you guys could give me ideas work I'm able to do? I can move my right arm only a little up to my wrist, my bicep is strong but my tricep is weak so I can barely move my arm since extending my arm takes effort and my arm will start curling in eventually, get stuck and I need assistance extending it again. My left arm is completely paralyzed. I can use a computer with the use of a mouth joystick called a quadjoy and onscreen keyboard. I also have a trach atm. The reason I mentioned what function I have was purely to help you with recommendations. Before my accident I was a network security engineer and computer programmer. I'm good with math, technology, science and problem solving. Thanks in advance for your suggestions and feedback -Danny
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Do you have any degrees, certifications? Are you willing to go back to school for additional school or training? Best Wishes In a message dated 9/21/2013 5:22:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, da...@immortaldesigns.co writes: I’m technically a c2 incomplete asymmetrical quadriplegic and wondering if you guys could give me ideas work I’m able to do? I can move my right arm only a little up to my wrist, my bicep is strong but my tricep is weak so I can barely move my arm since extending my arm takes effort and my arm will start curling in eventually, get stuck and I need assistance extending it again. My left arm is completely paralyzed… I can use a computer with the use of a mouth joystick called a quadjoy and onscreen keyboard. I also have a trach atm… The reason I mentioned what function I have was purely to help you with recommendations. Before my accident I was a network security engineer and computer programmer. I’m good with math, technology, science and problem solving. Thanks in advance for your suggestions and feedback -Danny
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Online courses towards a will open up many opportunities. Add voice recognition to your tech inventory (if u have not already done so). Inventory of jobs by quads that I know personally include psychologists, psychiatrist, published novelists, poetess, physiatrists (2), software and application programmers, web developers et.al. Danny, pick something that you love to do. Although you may not be physically capable you can still provide positively to the endeavor by documenting, advertising or teaching others. Just don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do! Sent from Billy Lang's iPad On Sep 21, 2013, at 8:57, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: Do you have any degrees, certifications? Are you willing to go back to school for additional school or training? Best Wishes In a message dated 9/21/2013 5:22:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, da...@immortaldesigns.co writes: I’m technically a c2 incomplete asymmetrical quadriplegic and wondering if you guys could give me ideas work I’m able to do? I can move my right arm only a little up to my wrist, my bicep is strong but my tricep is weak so I can barely move my arm since extending my arm takes effort and my arm will start curling in eventually, get stuck and I need assistance extending it again. My left arm is completely paralyzed… I can use a computer with the use of a mouth joystick called a quadjoy and onscreen keyboard. I also have a trach atm… The reason I mentioned what function I have was purely to help you with recommendations. Before my accident I was a network security engineer and computer programmer. I’m good with math, technology, science and problem solving. Thanks in advance for your suggestions and feedback -Danny
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All my certs have lapsed since you need to renew them but they were A+, N+, CCNA, CCNP, CCSP. I never got any degrees but I did goto college for a while… From: wheelch...@aol.com [mailto:wheelch...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 5:58 AM To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Work question Do you have any degrees, certifications? Are you willing to go back to school for additional school or training? Best Wishes In a message dated 9/21/2013 5:22:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, da...@immortaldesigns.co mailto:da...@immortaldesigns.co writes: I’m technically a c2 incomplete asymmetrical quadriplegic and wondering if you guys could give me ideas work I’m able to do? I can move my right arm only a little up to my wrist, my bicep is strong but my tricep is weak so I can barely move my arm since extending my arm takes effort and my arm will start curling in eventually, get stuck and I need assistance extending it again. My left arm is completely paralyzed… I can use a computer with the use of a mouth joystick called a quadjoy and onscreen keyboard. I also have a trach atm… The reason I mentioned what function I have was purely to help you with recommendations. Before my accident I was a network security engineer and computer programmer. I’m good with math, technology, science and problem solving. Thanks in advance for your suggestions and feedback -Danny
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I’ve been doing web programming but it doesn’t make much… I’ve been using dragon for five years now. Hmmm psychiatrist sounds interesting I’ll research it. ty From: Billy Lang [mailto:blan...@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 9:07 AM To: wheelch...@aol.com Cc: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Work question Online courses towards a will open up many opportunities. Add voice recognition to your tech inventory (if u have not already done so). Inventory of jobs by quads that I know personally include psychologists, psychiatrist, published novelists, poetess, physiatrists (2), software and application programmers, web developers et.al. Danny, pick something that you love to do. Although you may not be physically capable you can still provide positively to the endeavor by documenting, advertising or teaching others. Just don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do! Sent from Billy Lang's iPad On Sep 21, 2013, at 8:57, wheelch...@aol.com mailto:wheelch...@aol.com wrote: Do you have any degrees, certifications? Are you willing to go back to school for additional school or training? Best Wishes In a message dated 9/21/2013 5:22:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, da...@immortaldesigns.co mailto:da...@immortaldesigns.co writes: I’m technically a c2 incomplete asymmetrical quadriplegic and wondering if you guys could give me ideas work I’m able to do? I can move my right arm only a little up to my wrist, my bicep is strong but my tricep is weak so I can barely move my arm since extending my arm takes effort and my arm will start curling in eventually, get stuck and I need assistance extending it again. My left arm is completely paralyzed… I can use a computer with the use of a mouth joystick called a quadjoy and onscreen keyboard. I also have a trach atm… The reason I mentioned what function I have was purely to help you with recommendations. Before my accident I was a network security engineer and computer programmer. I’m good with math, technology, science and problem solving. Thanks in advance for your suggestions and feedback -Danny
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How about math, technology or science tuter at the local school or college. You can also work privately from your home. From: Danny da...@immortaldesigns.co To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:22 AM Subject: [QUAD-L] Work question I’m technically a c2 incomplete asymmetrical quadriplegic and wondering if you guys could give me ideas work I’m able to do? I can move my right arm only a little up to my wrist, my bicep is strong but my tricep is weak so I can barely move my arm since extending my arm takes effort and my arm will start curling in eventually, get stuck and I need assistance extending it again. My left arm is completely paralyzed… I can use a computer with the use of a mouth joystick called a quadjoy and onscreen keyboard. I also have a trach atm… The reason I mentioned what function I have was purely to help you with recommendations. Before my accident I was a network security engineer and computer programmer. I’m good with math, technology, science and problem solving. Thanks in advance for your suggestions and feedback -Danny
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/freeonlinecourses, for example). Most intro to computing courses these days use Python, and some do SQL too, though you'll need a more comprehensive database course to *really* learn it (you don't always need to know it all, but there are times you'll realize you need to know more than you do ...I keep learning). I haven't come across any free Django classes, but there are tutorials and books (for latest stable version, 1.5). As for actually writing/typing code in a text editor, it sounds like you could use the hunt-and-peck, one finger typing method I use (I am a C5/C6 incomplete quad, with arm control, but no triceps or hand function). I'm a fraction as fast as my touch-typing days, before my accident, but I'm still faster than most of my non-techy friends! :) I do use Dragon Dictate when I'm writing lots of text, but never tried it to write code. Should work fine with practice, I'm sure. I mostly hate using a wired headset, and have had trouble getting a wireless (bluetooth) headset to work reliably/consistently. Anyway, I hope that helps answer your question. One thing I didn't mention about doing web application development is that there are lots of jobs out there --contract, part-time, or full-time-- and many allow you to work mostly or entirely from home. There are more that use PHP, than Python, but that is slowly changing. It is nice to meet face-to-face, once in a while too, though using Skype or Facetime helps a lot. I admit, I do still miss the office environs and camaraderie, sometimes. For face-to-face socializing, I attend lots of meetup.com tech group meetings that (lucky for me) are held not too far away. Good Luck, bob From: Billy Lang blan...@verizon.net To: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com Cc: da...@immortaldesigns.co da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Work question Online courses towards a will open up many opportunities. Add voice recognition to your tech inventory (if u have not already done so). Inventory of jobs by quads that I know personally include psychologists, psychiatrist, published novelists, poetess, physiatrists (2), software and application programmers, web developers et.al. Danny, pick something that you love to do. Although you may not be physically capable you can still provide positively to the endeavor by documenting, advertising or teaching others. Just don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do! Sent from Billy Lang's iPad On Sep 21, 2013, at 8:57, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: Do you have any degrees, certifications? Are you willing to go back to school for additional school or training? Best Wishes In a message dated 9/21/2013 5:22:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, da...@immortaldesigns.co writes: I’m technically a c2 incomplete asymmetrical quadriplegic and wondering if you guys could give me ideas work I’m able to do? I can move my right arm only a little up to my wrist, my bicep is strong but my tricep is weak so I can barely move my arm since extending my arm takes effort and my arm will start curling in eventually, get stuck and I need assistance extending it again. My left arm is completely paralyzed… I can use a computer with the use of a mouth joystick called a quadjoy and onscreen keyboard. I also have a trach atm… The reason I mentioned what function I have was purely to help you with recommendations. Before my accident I was a network security engineer and computer programmer. I’m good with math, technology, science and problem solving. Thanks in advance for your suggestions and feedback -Danny
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Ya I mostly do php/mysql for people… I used to be a developer for Gentoo and have been programming/running *nix systems for the last 16 years. I started programming with qbasic when I was a kid. I mostly did Cisco router/switch configuration for my employer before my accident and was put in an on-site consultant position for the superintendent of schools for a few years. I mostly worked with linux servers and setup a IDS network at all the schools. We were all the schools and government buildings isp. We piped out internet from our oc48 to all the schools. After that I built networks for university’s from central California to San Diego. Long story short if I went back to college the only reason would be to learn something not in the realm of information technology or to teach, The problem I face is that I can’t move my arms very well or fingers at all. I type with either speech recognition or with an on-screen keyboard and am fairly slow because I use a mouth joystick “http://www.quadjoy.com/ “ with sip and puff for my right and left click. I’m just so slow on the computer now that I can’t use my fingers and barely use my arm that it seems so slow to do anything for work. This took me a little over an hour to type… From: bob quinn [mailto:kult...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:38 PM To: Billy Lang; wheelch...@aol.com Cc: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Work question Apologies upfront that this is so long-winded, but I hope it helps you to easily learn some things I learned the hard way With your tech/programming/net-security background, I'd recommend that you learn back-end (server-side) web development. Most computer, tablet and mobile based web-browser apps are all dynamically generated by server-side code, frameworks and databases, which customize page generation according to the browser/user request, and the platform to display it on. Most of the frameworks have network security features built-in, these days too, and hosting sites do the systems security, and allow you to do some configuration when necessary, too (e.g., they provide https, ftps, and site or folder-level .htaccess support. For any web development --including either front-end/static or backend/dynamic pages-- it helps to be familiar with both HTML and CSS. That should be your starting point for getting into any kind of web design or development. And force yourself to write/type the code from scratch, rather than using code generated by tools like Adobe's Dreamweaver. By typing the code, you WILL learn it better and faster (and write MUCH cleaner, more-readable code than any generator can). Javascript is used often too, but you can get away without learning a lot if you learn to use the many (free and open) .js libraries The Java language is used in many large enterprises, so there are usually many jobs available for this. I learned it first as I started teaching web-development to myself (for a project I wanted to do), but I found it very restrictive, and tedious. To do even simple things, you need to jump through hoops. More importantly for me, it has very high overhead on the server, the hosting services are more expensive, and Java applets loaded WAY too slowly in the browsers. I didn't like it at all. Next, I learned PHP. It was liberating, since it was so easy to do so many things (and its syntax was based on the C language, in which I was fluent). Most PHP applications use SQL (MySQL or Postgre) to access and update databases. There were also well-established application frameworks (also known as Content Management Systems, or CMS), like Wordpress, that also have plug-in widgets available (which are like mini-applications, like a calendar, advertising windows, calculator, or whatever). With Wordpress, it is possible to do a whole lot, without knowing a lot of PHP. PHP and WordPress (and MySQL, the database) are all free and available from most web-hosting sites, and VERY popular among web-designers that have little programming experience. I did a number of PHP-based projects for myself, websites for friends (for free), and even some contract work for a development house a friend runs. I liked it, though I ran into issues where the PHP code was embedded in pages. It made them difficult to make changes/updates, especially in large websites. Last year I went to a (free) Python meetup tutorial nearby, and someone said to me, When PHP programmers grow up, they become Python programmers. I cornered the guy and asked why, and he pointed out how most large PHP-based projects are difficult to maintain when updates are needed ...mainly because PHP is hard-coded within pages. I did a few stand-alone (non-web) applications and some network (ftp) applications with Python, and I was amazed how quick and easy it is to do almost anything. The syntax was different, but easy
