Re: [QUAD-L] Redman wheelchair opinions please
I don't have enough torque on van ramp to be able to go slow up. Since then Redman has come out with new gear box/motor combinations which has solved most issues with the torque issue, it has slowed max speed tho. Biggest thing is to test it everywhere, yard, in/out of your van, shopping ect. Service is important!!! T- c3-4 1998 Quadskydiver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Wheelchair and Tom, Where do you find trouble with not enough torque. Can you give me an example where I can test the new chair to see if their nw motors cured that problem. This new Redman is supposed to have new motors and the DME supplier- is bringing it tommorrow. The DME has just returned from Redman's training in AZ. He started out attempting to get me to settle for a Permobil again. Even though I told him about the previous problem I had with Permobil, but he had been sold on the availability of parts. After finding the Permobil presentation still didn't get my necessary preassure releif. Then the DME had Redman send a sales rep. over with an older model chair. And the backrest actually broke while he was trying to adjust it to fit me during the demonstration. That salesman didn't impress me or the DME with his lack of knowledge of his product. But he was supposed to be getting the new model chair with new and improved motors. Then was supposed to return for another presentation. Instead the DME imformed me he was going to Redman's school to be able to sale and when necesary repair any product he sales. This DME lives 120 miles from my home. After he returned from their school he says that after getting to know more about these wheelchairs. He actually feels better about selling these than the Permobil he as been selling. Not that I expected him to come back dissappointed in the poor quality. One question I seem to have heard bad about Redman, it seems like I remember hearing that they had fragile electronics. Does anyone know about that or anything else? I have been a year without a wheelchair and as mentioned earlier. My doctor said his PT said I have been blackballed as a trouble maker here in Oklahoma. After being successful getting 2 State Senate bills passed and signed by 2 Governors. I am excited to have a light at the end of the tunnel to get out of bed and get active again. But I am trying to be cautious and not jump into something I would regret. So I am asking for all you experts to help me make a good decision. I have attached the link for this whelchair if anyone is interested. http://www.redmanpowerchair.com/ The website says the wheerlchair is self diagnosing under the history link. Anybody know what that means? Glory to GOD Thanks, Jim Rice PS. Does anybody know a lady I remember in Oklahoma that owns a Redman? - Original Message - From: tom garbisch To: quad list Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Redman wheelchair opinions please Like W always says repairs, adjustments and service are the most important thing in deciding on our chairs. I live in WI and have a redman standing powerchair for three years now. But only seen a tech 2 times at $500.00+ a visit. If it breaks down they will send parts but YOU have to get them on. If you live near Arazona service might be better. I have trouble with not enough tourqe when needed. There answer is to turn up acceleration. The chair works good but service sucks here again your location is everthing. Tom c3-4 1998 - - Original Message - From: Quadskydiver To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Redman wheelchair opinions please Anybody have experience with a new Redman standing wheelchair? I have used a Levo over 10 years, but it is past shot, and hard to get parts for. A Permobil doesn't fit worth crap, and in 2000 the State furnished a new Permobil with the seat pan installed upside down leaving the 1 support ridge standing up into my sciatic nerve causing damage and severe pain every since. Your expert experiences would be much appreciated. Glory to GOD Thanks, Jim Rice C-56 10 yrs. post Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. - Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing.
Re: [QUAD-L] Redman wheelchair opinions please
In a message dated 7/27/2007 3:59:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't have enough torque on van ramp to be able to go slow up. Since then Redman has come out with new gear box/motor combinations which has solved most issues with the torque issue, it has slowed max speed tho. Biggest thing is to test it everywhere, yard, in/out of your van, shopping ect. Service is important!!! T- c3-4 1998 The Redman wheelchair may be all that and more, but based on its past track record their history speaks for itself... and then some. Some, but not all, DMEs are into making money or commissions on selling products. DMEs like the ability of having an exclusive with a manufacturer too, as the commissions are usually greater. Hence motivation for learning.the product. But that in itself is no warranty that the company could go belly up next quarter and leave you with a chair with no parts or services as others have expressed. Remember the saying, Fools Rush In, Where Angels Fear To Thread There is a reason for that saying. Best Wishes ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
RE: [QUAD-L] Redman wheelchair opinions please
Let the BUYER BEWARE when dealing with Redman Power Chair!! I purchased their chair several years ago (paid in full in advance - Never Again!) because it looked like a great chair from the website and full-page ads in New Mobility. LONG story short, I refused to accept the chair the day it was delivered for many reasons, and was told there would be a restocking fee of 20% - no problem. We recovered a couple thousand dollars, then waited and waited and waited only to receive court documents that the company was filing bankruptcy. Well, they're obviously STILL in business with over $10,000 belonging to my family, which we will never see again. I wound up getting a Quickie 646 SE and LOVE it. It doesn't stand, but oh well. It's exactly what I need. If you want to stand badly enough, look into standing frames! If any of you missed my documentary on Discovery Health called Paralyzed and Pregnant, it will air again on July 31st at 9:00 PM, August 1st at 12:00 AM, and August 4th at 1:00 PM, all EST. My son, Pierce, is now 21 months old, runs around like a mad man getting into everything possible, and loves chasing his Toy Poodle, Duke. I am still suffering from orthostatic hypotension, and continue to baffle the medical community. I have posted some pictures at: www.myspace.com/michellecarston Good luck in your quest to find the right chair for you! ~Michelle Carston C-5/6 from diving into a sandbar in the ocean in 1993 Mommy to Pierce Michael, born 10/25/05 via natural delivery From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Redman wheelchair opinions please i live in phoenix and took my 10 year old manual chair to them to fix it under their 'lifetime' warranty. they laughed and asked just how long i thought a 'lifetime' warranty should last anyway. that was just the tip of an ugly iceberg. better to avoid redman. dave In a message dated 7/18/2007 8:30:14 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Like W always says repairs, adjustments and service are the most important thing in deciding on our chairs. I live in WI and have a redman standing powerchair for three years now. But only seen a tech 2 times at $500.00+ a visit. If it breaks down they will send parts but YOU have to get them on. If you live near Arazona service might be better. I have trouble with not enough tourqe when needed. There answer is to turn up acceleration. The chair works good but service sucks here again your location is everthing. Tom c3-4 1998 _ Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48220/*http:/tv.yahoo.com/ tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. Dave Visit My Home Page http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/index.html _ Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 .
Re: [QUAD-L] Redman wheelchair opinions please
i live in phoenix and took my 10 year old manual chair to them to fix it under their 'lifetime' warranty. they laughed and asked just how long i thought a 'lifetime' warranty should last anyway. that was just the tip of an ugly iceberg. better to avoid redman. dave In a message dated 7/18/2007 8:30:14 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Like W always says repairs, adjustments and service are the most important thing in deciding on our chairs. I live in WI and have a redman standing powerchair for three years now. But only seen a tech 2 times at $500.00+ a visit. If it breaks down they will send parts but YOU have to get them on. If you live near Arazona service might be better. I have trouble with not enough tourqe when needed. There answer is to turn up acceleration. The chair works good but service sucks here again your location is everthing. Tom c3-4 1998 Ready for the edge of your seat? _Check out tonight's top picks_ (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48220/*http://tv.yahoo.com/) on Yahoo! TV. Dave _Visit My Home Page_ (http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/index.html) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [QUAD-L] Redman wheelchair opinions please
Like W always says repairs, adjustments and service are the most important thing in deciding on our chairs. I live in WI and have a redman standing powerchair for three years now. But only seen a tech 2 times at $500.00+ a visit. If it breaks down they will send parts but YOU have to get them on. If you live near Arazona service might be better. I have trouble with not enough tourqe when needed. There answer is to turn up acceleration. The chair works good but service sucks here again your location is everthing. Tom c3-4 1998 - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: [QUAD-L] Redman wheelchair opinions please
Thanks Wheelchair and Tom, Where do you find trouble with not enough torque. Can you give me an example where I can test the new chair to see if their nw motors cured that problem. This new Redman is supposed to have new motors and the DME supplier- is bringing it tommorrow. The DME has just returned from Redman's training in AZ. He started out attempting to get me to settle for a Permobil again. Even though I told him about the previous problem I had with Permobil, but he had been sold on the availability of parts. After finding the Permobil presentation still didn't get my necessary preassure releif. Then the DME had Redman send a sales rep. over with an older model chair. And the backrest actually broke while he was trying to adjust it to fit me during the demonstration. That salesman didn't impress me or the DME with his lack of knowledge of his product. But he was supposed to be getting the new model chair with new and improved motors. Then was supposed to return for another presentation. Instead the DME imformed me he was going to Redman's school to be able to sale and when necesary repair any product he sales. This DME lives 120 miles from my home. After he returned from their school he says that after getting to know more about these wheelchairs. He actually feels better about selling these than the Permobil he as been selling. Not that I expected him to come back dissappointed in the poor quality. One question I seem to have heard bad about Redman, it seems like I remember hearing that they had fragile electronics. Does anyone know about that or anything else? I have been a year without a wheelchair and as mentioned earlier. My doctor said his PT said I have been blackballed as a trouble maker here in Oklahoma. After being successful getting 2 State Senate bills passed and signed by 2 Governors. I am excited to have a light at the end of the tunnel to get out of bed and get active again. But I am trying to be cautious and not jump into something I would regret. So I am asking for all you experts to help me make a good decision. I have attached the link for this whelchair if anyone is interested. http://www.redmanpowerchair.com/ The website says the wheerlchair is self diagnosing under the history link. Anybody know what that means? Glory to GOD Thanks, Jim Rice PS. Does anybody know a lady I remember in Oklahoma that owns a Redman? - Original Message - From: tom garbisch To: quad list Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Redman wheelchair opinions please Like W always says repairs, adjustments and service are the most important thing in deciding on our chairs. I live in WI and have a redman standing powerchair for three years now. But only seen a tech 2 times at $500.00+ a visit. If it breaks down they will send parts but YOU have to get them on. If you live near Arazona service might be better. I have trouble with not enough tourqe when needed. There answer is to turn up acceleration. The chair works good but service sucks here again your location is everthing. Tom c3-4 1998 -- - Original Message - From: Quadskydiver To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Redman wheelchair opinions please Anybody have experience with a new Redman standing wheelchair? I have used a Levo over 10 years, but it is past shot, and hard to get parts for. A Permobil doesn't fit worth crap, and in 2000 the State furnished a new Permobil with the seat pan installed upside down leaving the 1 support ridge standing up into my sciatic nerve causing damage and severe pain every since. Your expert experiences would be much appreciated. Glory to GOD Thanks, Jim Rice C-56 10 yrs. post Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: [QUAD-L] Redman wheelchair opinions please
That seems really strange, that you have to prepare your own wheelchair. How do they get by with that? Dana ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour