RE: [QUAD-L] seat cushions

2015-03-28 Thread Joan Anglin
You have it right. Each person needs to find the best for them, I’ve been on 
the jay cushion the entire time except for trying a roho Quadtro which did not 
work for me as I don’t have somebody around to adjust it and it did not 
stabilize me enough on our rocky hillside. JHave a great day everyone Joan

 

From: RONALD L PRACHT [mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 1:37 PM
To: Quad-list Post
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions

 

The key is don't change anything if you aren't getting pressure sores. Every 
quad is a different size, bone structure, activity level, weight, amount of 
transfers, pressure relief, age. So many things go into the equation. Rohos 
aren't any good if you don't have help maintaining the air pressure. I have had 
17 years pressure sore free on 4 Jay 2 cushions. I will stick with this method 
until my luck changes.

 

Ron

  

 

On Saturday, March 28, 2015 2:25 PM, Ed Tessier e...@teamjeved.com wrote:

 

I used Roho for almost 30 years without problems. I couldn't understand how so 
many  quads pressure sores. After a very active lifestyle and losing some 
weight Roho stopped being effective. I tried everything else on the market, 
EVERYTHING. I lost almost a year and a half in bed when I finally tried the 
RIDE CUSHION. It is completely counterintuitive – – A HARD FOAM customized 
seat. It has worked well for two years now and got me most of my life back.

 

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com wrote:

Great advice!  Bobbie 

Smile Everyday


On Mar 27, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com wrote:

I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho 
Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been much 
better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro.

 

Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you get. 
We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our sitting 
position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever cushion you try 
be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up or down.

 

Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.'

 

Jay 2 gel: 

Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed. 

Cons - very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam base 
amplifies bumps as you roll.

 

Roho:

Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent customer 
service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!)

Cons - harder to clean, possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust air 
in elevation changes.

 

My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one gets 
dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring between 
chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair. Having a backup 
cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance won't buy you a spare:

1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion.

2. have a fundraiser with friends to raise the money.

3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have been donated (we 
get them in our office quite often.)

4. Do a gofundme webpage.

 

Do whatever it takes to get two cushions!

 

Don 

Tempe, AZ

C5-6, 1982, diving

 


  _  


From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
To: Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com 
Cc: Derrick wheel...@centurylink.net; quad-list@eskimo.com 
quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions


Besides, everybody sits different every single day.

I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very best 
for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not just 
give it the old college try?  Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 


 On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Derrick,
 
 In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with
 four quadrants that give you a custom fit.  The cushion has two buttons on 
 the front--the green
 button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button 
 locks the
 air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable.  
 
 As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT 
 rely on
 pressure mapping alone.  Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most
 important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the 
 cushion for an extended
 period of time.
 
 An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it 
 mapped out fantastic,
 all blue and cool.  However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and 
 hot.  If I had just 
 relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I 
 would have surely
 ended up with a bad pressure ulcer.
 
 My 2-cents.
 
 Bob V
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote:
 
 I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but 
 balance is compromised. Plus you need to make

Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions

2015-03-28 Thread Ed Tessier
I used Roho for almost 30 years without problems. I couldn't understand how
so many  quads pressure sores. After a very active lifestyle and losing
some weight Roho stopped being effective. I tried everything else on the
market, EVERYTHING. I lost almost a year and a half in bed when I finally
tried the RIDE CUSHION. It is completely counterintuitive – – A HARD FOAM
customized seat. It has worked well for two years now and got me most of my
life back.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great advice!  Bobbie

 Smile Everyday

 On Mar 27, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho
 Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been
 much better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro.

 Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you
 get. We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our
 sitting position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever
 cushion you try be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up
 or down.

 Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.'

 Jay 2 gel:
 Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed.
 Cons - very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam
 base amplifies bumps as you roll.

 Roho:
 Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent
 customer service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!)
 Cons - harder to clean, possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust
 air in elevation changes.

 My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one
 gets dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring
 between chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair.
 Having a backup cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance
 won't buy you a spare:
 1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion.
 2. have a fundraiser with friends to raise the money.
 3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have been donated
 (we get them in our office quite often.)
 4. Do a gofundme webpage.

 Do whatever it takes to get two cushions!

 Don
 Tempe, AZ
 C5-6, 1982, diving

   --
  *From:* Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
 *To:* Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com
 *Cc:* Derrick wheel...@centurylink.net; quad-list@eskimo.com 
 quad-list@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions

 Besides, everybody sits different every single day.

 I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very
 best for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not
 just give it the old college try?  Bobbie

 Smile Everyday



  On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com wrote:
 
  Hi Derrick,
 
  In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air
 cushion with
  four quadrants that give you a custom fit.  The cushion has two buttons
 on the front--the green
  button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red
 button locks the
  air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable.
 
  As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at,
 do NOT rely on
  pressure mapping alone.  Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most
  important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the
 cushion for an extended
  period of time.
 
  An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of
 cushion--it mapped out fantastic,
  all blue and cool.  However at the end of the day my skin was bright red
 and hot.  If I had just
  relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each
 night I would have surely
  ended up with a bad pressure ulcer.
 
  My 2-cents.
 
  Bob V
 
  On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote:
 
  I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho
 but balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper
 air in them.
 
  I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years.
  Is gel or air cushions more popular?
 
  Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions?
  It maps out better than Roho, supposedly.
 
  Thanks,
  Derrick W in PA
 





Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions

2015-03-28 Thread RONALD L PRACHT
The key is don't change anything if you aren't getting pressure sores. Every 
quad is a different size, bone structure, activity level, weight, amount of 
transfers, pressure relief, age. So many things go into the equation. Rohos 
aren't any good if you don't have help maintaining the air pressure. I have had 
17 years pressure sore free on 4 Jay 2 cushions. I will stick with this method 
until my luck changes.
Ron  


 On Saturday, March 28, 2015 2:25 PM, Ed Tessier e...@teamjeved.com wrote:
   

 I used Roho for almost 30 years without problems. I couldn't understand how so 
many  quads pressure sores. After a very active lifestyle and losing some 
weight Roho stopped being effective. I tried everything else on the market, 
EVERYTHING. I lost almost a year and a half in bed when I finally tried the 
RIDE CUSHION. It is completely counterintuitive – – A HARD FOAM customized 
seat. It has worked well for two years now and got me most of my life back.
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com wrote:

Great advice!  Bobbie 

Smile Everyday
On Mar 27, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com wrote:


I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho 
Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been much 
better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro.
Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you get. 
We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our sitting 
position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever cushion you try 
be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up or down.
Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.'
Jay 2 gel: Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed. Cons - 
very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam base 
amplifies bumps as you roll.
Roho:Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent 
customer service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!)Cons - harder to clean, 
possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust air in elevation changes.
My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one gets 
dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring between 
chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair. Having a backup 
cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance won't buy you a 
spare:1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion.2. have a fundraiser with friends 
to raise the money.3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have 
been donated (we get them in our office quite often.)4. Do a gofundme webpage.
Do whatever it takes to get two cushions!
Don Tempe, AZC5-6, 1982, diving
  From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
 To: Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com 
Cc: Derrick wheel...@centurylink.net; quad-list@eskimo.com 
quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions
   
Besides, everybody sits different every single day.

I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very best 
for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not just 
give it the old college try?  Bobbie 

Smile Everyday



 On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Derrick,
 
 In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with
 four quadrants that give you a custom fit.  The cushion has two buttons on 
 the front--the green
 button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button 
 locks the
 air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable.  
 
 As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT 
 rely on
 pressure mapping alone.  Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most
 important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the 
 cushion for an extended
 period of time.
 
 An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it 
 mapped out fantastic,
 all blue and cool.  However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and 
 hot.  If I had just 
 relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I 
 would have surely
 ended up with a bad pressure ulcer.
 
 My 2-cents.
 
 Bob V
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote:
 
 I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but 
 balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air 
 in them.
 
 I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years.
 Is gel or air cushions more popular?
 
 Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions?
 It maps out better than Roho, supposedly.
 
 Thanks,
 Derrick W in PA
 


   




  

Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions

2015-03-27 Thread Don Price
I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho 
Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been much 
better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro.
Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you get. 
We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our sitting 
position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever cushion you try 
be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up or down.
Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.'
Jay 2 gel: Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed. Cons - 
very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam base 
amplifies bumps as you roll.
Roho:Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent 
customer service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!)Cons - harder to clean, 
possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust air in elevation changes.
My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one gets 
dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring between 
chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair. Having a backup 
cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance won't buy you a 
spare:1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion.2. have a fundraiser with friends 
to raise the money.3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have 
been donated (we get them in our office quite often.)4. Do a gofundme webpage.
Do whatever it takes to get two cushions!
Don Tempe, AZC5-6, 1982, diving
  From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
 To: Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com 
Cc: Derrick wheel...@centurylink.net; quad-list@eskimo.com 
quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions
   
Besides, everybody sits different every single day.

I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very best 
for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not just 
give it the old college try?  Bobbie 

Smile Everyday



 On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Derrick,
 
 In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with
 four quadrants that give you a custom fit.  The cushion has two buttons on 
 the front--the green
 button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button 
 locks the
 air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable.  
 
 As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT 
 rely on
 pressure mapping alone.  Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most
 important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the 
 cushion for an extended
 period of time.
 
 An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it 
 mapped out fantastic,
 all blue and cool.  However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and 
 hot.  If I had just 
 relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I 
 would have surely
 ended up with a bad pressure ulcer.
 
 My 2-cents.
 
 Bob V
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote:
 
 I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but 
 balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air 
 in them.
 
 I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years.
 Is gel or air cushions more popular?
 
 Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions?
 It maps out better than Roho, supposedly.
 
 Thanks,
 Derrick W in PA
 


  

Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions

2015-03-27 Thread RONALD L PRACHT
I always keep two Jay 2 gel cushions and about 5 cushion covers at the ready. I 
have exploded to Jay 2 cushions and what comes out is a mess.
Ron 


 On Friday, March 27, 2015 4:26 PM, Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com wrote:
   

 I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho 
Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been much 
better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro.
Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you get. 
We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our sitting 
position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever cushion you try 
be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up or down.
Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.'
Jay 2 gel: Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed. Cons - 
very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam base 
amplifies bumps as you roll.
Roho:Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent 
customer service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!)Cons - harder to clean, 
possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust air in elevation changes.
My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one gets 
dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring between 
chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair. Having a backup 
cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance won't buy you a 
spare:1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion.2. have a fundraiser with friends 
to raise the money.3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have 
been donated (we get them in our office quite often.)4. Do a gofundme webpage.
Do whatever it takes to get two cushions!
Don Tempe, AZC5-6, 1982, diving
  From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
 To: Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com 
Cc: Derrick wheel...@centurylink.net; quad-list@eskimo.com 
quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions
   
Besides, everybody sits different every single day.

I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very best 
for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not just 
give it the old college try?  Bobbie 

Smile Everyday



 On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Derrick,
 
 In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with
 four quadrants that give you a custom fit.  The cushion has two buttons on 
 the front--the green
 button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button 
 locks the
 air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable.  
 
 As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT 
 rely on
 pressure mapping alone.  Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most
 important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the 
 cushion for an extended
 period of time.
 
 An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it 
 mapped out fantastic,
 all blue and cool.  However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and 
 hot.  If I had just 
 relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I 
 would have surely
 ended up with a bad pressure ulcer.
 
 My 2-cents.
 
 Bob V
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote:
 
 I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but 
 balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air 
 in them.
 
 I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years.
 Is gel or air cushions more popular?
 
 Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions?
 It maps out better than Roho, supposedly.
 
 Thanks,
 Derrick W in PA
 


   

  

Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions

2015-03-27 Thread Danny Hearn
Me also Ron, been on Roho for going on 18 years, Tom and the Group there do 
their best to work with us customers and help meet our needs. Dan H*** 


 On Friday, March 27, 2015 4:26 PM, Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com wrote:
   

 I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho 
Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been much 
better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro.
Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you get. 
We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our sitting 
position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever cushion you try 
be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up or down.
Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.'
Jay 2 gel: Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed. Cons - 
very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam base 
amplifies bumps as you roll.
Roho:Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent 
customer service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!)Cons - harder to clean, 
possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust air in elevation changes.
My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one gets 
dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring between 
chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair. Having a backup 
cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance won't buy you a 
spare:1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion.2. have a fundraiser with friends 
to raise the money.3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have 
been donated (we get them in our office quite often.)4. Do a gofundme webpage.
Do whatever it takes to get two cushions!
Don Tempe, AZC5-6, 1982, diving
  From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
 To: Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com 
Cc: Derrick wheel...@centurylink.net; quad-list@eskimo.com 
quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions
   
Besides, everybody sits different every single day.

I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very best 
for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not just 
give it the old college try?  Bobbie 

Smile Everyday



 On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Derrick,
 
 In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with
 four quadrants that give you a custom fit.  The cushion has two buttons on 
 the front--the green
 button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button 
 locks the
 air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable.  
 
 As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT 
 rely on
 pressure mapping alone.  Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most
 important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the 
 cushion for an extended
 period of time.
 
 An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it 
 mapped out fantastic,
 all blue and cool.  However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and 
 hot.  If I had just 
 relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I 
 would have surely
 ended up with a bad pressure ulcer.
 
 My 2-cents.
 
 Bob V
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote:
 
 I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but 
 balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air 
 in them.
 
 I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years.
 Is gel or air cushions more popular?
 
 Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions?
 It maps out better than Roho, supposedly.
 
 Thanks,
 Derrick W in PA
 


   

  

Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions

2015-03-27 Thread Gmail
Great advice!  Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 On Mar 27, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Don Price donpric...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 I used a Jay 2 Gel Cushion for about 20 years and then switched to a Roho 
 Quadtro. Both have their pluses and minuses, but overall the Roho has been 
 much better for my skin. I highly recommend the Quadtro.
 
 Remember that there will be an adjustment period with any new cushion you 
 get. We all know what a big change it is when any adjustment is made to our 
 sitting position, even an inch or two changes everything. So, whatever 
 cushion you try be sure to give it a few weeks before you give it thumbs up 
 or down.
 
 Now for my 'pros' and 'cons.'
 
 Jay 2 gel: 
 Pros - stable base, easy to clean. no air adjustments needed. 
 Cons - very heavy, inferior skin protection (my experience) and the foam base 
 amplifies bumps as you roll.
 
 Roho:
 Pros - better skin protection, adjustable, cushions bumps, excellent customer 
 service (the Pres. reads our quadlist!)
 Cons - harder to clean, possibility of punctures or leaks, have to adjust air 
 in elevation changes.
 
 My number one suggestion is to always have TWO cushions, that way if one gets 
 dirty or damaged you can use the backup. Also, if you're transferring between 
 chairs you can simply put the other cushion in the other chair. Having a 
 backup cushion will save you many headaches! If your insurance won't buy you 
 a spare:
 1. pony up the extra $400 for a cushion.
 2. have a fundraiser with friends to raise the money.
 3. ask your local CIL or spinal cord association if any have been donated (we 
 get them in our office quite often.)
 4. Do a gofundme webpage.
 
 Do whatever it takes to get two cushions!
 
 Don 
 Tempe, AZ
 C5-6, 1982, diving
 
 From: Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com
 To: Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com 
 Cc: Derrick wheel...@centurylink.net; quad-list@eskimo.com 
 quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions
 
 Besides, everybody sits different every single day.
 
 I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very best 
 for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not just 
 give it the old college try?  Bobbie 
 
 Smile Everyday
 
 
 
  On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com wrote:
  
  Hi Derrick,
  
  In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion 
  with
  four quadrants that give you a custom fit.  The cushion has two buttons on 
  the front--the green
  button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red 
  button locks the
  air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable.  
  
  As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do 
  NOT rely on
  pressure mapping alone.  Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most
  important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the 
  cushion for an extended
  period of time.
  
  An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it 
  mapped out fantastic,
  all blue and cool.  However at the end of the day my skin was bright red 
  and hot.  If I had just 
  relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night 
  I would have surely
  ended up with a bad pressure ulcer.
  
  My 2-cents.
  
  Bob V
  
  On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote:
  
  I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho 
  but balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have 
  proper air in them.
  
  I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years.
  Is gel or air cushions more popular?
  
  Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions?
  It maps out better than Roho, supposedly.
  
  Thanks,
  Derrick W in PA
  
 
 


Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions

2015-03-26 Thread Gmail
Besides, everybody sits different every single day.

I've tried MANY different cushions over my 43 years. Roho works the very best 
for me. I'm C-4,5,6,7 I also use the Quadro select hi profile. Why not just 
give it the old college try?   Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Derrick,
 
 In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with
 four quadrants that give you a custom fit.  The cushion has two buttons on 
 the front--the green
 button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button 
 locks the
 air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable.  
 
 As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT 
 rely on
 pressure mapping alone.  Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most
 important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the 
 cushion for an extended
 period of time.
 
 An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it 
 mapped out fantastic,
 all blue and cool.  However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and 
 hot.  If I had just 
 relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I 
 would have surely
 ended up with a bad pressure ulcer.
 
 My 2-cents.
 
 Bob V
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote:
 
 I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but 
 balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air 
 in them.
 
 I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years.
 Is gel or air cushions more popular?
 
 Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions?
 It maps out better than Roho, supposedly.
 
 Thanks,
 Derrick W in PA
 



Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions

2015-03-26 Thread Bob Vogel
Hi Derrick,

In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with
four quadrants that give you a custom fit.  The cushion has two buttons on the 
front--the green
button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button 
locks the
air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable.  

As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT 
rely on
pressure mapping alone.  Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most
important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the cushion 
for an extended
period of time.

An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it 
mapped out fantastic,
all blue and cool.  However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and 
hot.  If I had just 
relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I 
would have surely
ended up with a bad pressure ulcer.

My 2-cents.

Bob V

On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote:

 I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but 
 balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air 
 in them.
 
 I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years.
 Is gel or air cushions more popular?
 
 Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions?
 It maps out better than Roho, supposedly.
 
 Thanks,
 Derrick W in PA
 



Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions

2015-03-26 Thread Gentrie Pool
100% agree with Bob.

Please excuse any typos or brevity of tone as this was typed using an iPhone 
(and possibly Siri, in an effort to be as safe as possible while en route.)

G

On Mar 26, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com wrote:

Hi Derrick,

In my *survey of one* I use the ROHO Quadtro Select, it is an air cushion with
four quadrants that give you a custom fit.  The cushion has two buttons on the 
front--the green
button enables your pelvis to immerse and balance out, pushing the red button 
locks the
air in place and keeps you very stable--it keeps me stable.  

As far as pressure mapping, no matter what cushion you are looking at, do NOT 
rely on
pressure mapping alone.  Pressure mapping is a tool to help, but the most
important tool is looking at the skin on your butt after sitting on the cushion 
for an extended
period of time.

An example of this is when I was looking at a different type of cushion--it 
mapped out fantastic,
all blue and cool.  However at the end of the day my skin was bright red and 
hot.  If I had just 
relied on the pressure map and not checked my skin with a mirror each night I 
would have surely
ended up with a bad pressure ulcer.

My 2-cents.

Bob V

 On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Derrick wrote:
 
 I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho but 
 balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have proper air 
 in them.
 
 I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years.
 Is gel or air cushions more popular?
 
 Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions?
 It maps out better than Roho, supposedly.
 
 Thanks,
 Derrick W in PA



Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushions

2015-03-26 Thread Tom Borcherding
Hi Derrick,

Pressure mapping is a very individualized test.  What maps great for one 
individual will not necessarily map well for the next individual.  That is 
why you have so many choices of cushions on the market today!  I do think 
pressure mapping is a valuable assessment tool, so I would encourage you 
to find a seating clinic that offers pressure mapping as a component of 
their seating assessment process so you can try a variety of cushions and 
narrow your choices down to what maps well for you.

Based on your comment about compromised balance, if you are looking at the 
ROHO family of products I would point you toward the QUADTRO SELECT 
cushion.  You can lock the air into 4 quadrants of the cushion to improve 
seated balance and stability.  The other ROHO family option would be the 
Hybrid Elite cushion.  This is the ROHO product that utilizes a foam base 
manufactured by Sunrise Medical combined with a specially fitted ROHO 
adjustable air pad.  The foam base addresses stability, while the ROHO air 
pad addresses the requirement for skin protection.

Feel free to contact me directly if you have any specific questions about 
ROHO products or services.

Sincerely,

Tom

Tom Borcherding
ROHO Inc.
100 N. Florida Ave.
Belleville, IL 62221 USA
t...@roho.com
www.therohogroup.com
1-618-277-9173, ext. 2006
toll-free 1-800-851-3449
mobile 314-378-0051



From:
Derrick wheel...@centurylink.net
To:
quad-list@eskimo.com, 
Date:
03/26/2015 06:53 PM
Subject:
[QUAD-L] seat cushions



I need a good cushion for pressure relief.Many suggest air cushion/Roho 
but balance is compromised. Plus you need to make sure that you have 
proper air in them.

I've been using Jay2 and Motion Concept the past few years.
Is gel or air cushions more popular?

Has anyone tried the Comfort Company Vicair cushions?
It maps out better than Roho, supposedly.

Thanks,
Derrick W in PA




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