Re: LEM European Swap List.
Thank you for all the support that has flooded in for the LEM European Swap List. I think we can make this a reality. The number of 'votes' has surpassed 20 recently and they are still coming in. I have polled the 1st PowerMacs and PCI PowerMacs list to see if anyone else on there is interested. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
LC 520/580 and ethernet
I am trying to get these two machines on a cable-modem internet connection; actually, my mac's will be on a router that originates from a pc. The 580 seems to have an ethernet port, but the 520 doesn't. Suggestions? Also, what's the going rate these days for memory for these machines? __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: C650 Blows fuse!
In a message dated 8/13/02 8:37:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... it blew the 3A fuse in the power cable! also the psu smells of burn a bit! Popking aound I note the psu is rated at 1.5a not 3 (on 200-240v), I'd usually assume this means i should use a 1.5a fuse for protection but these are not common, all computer stuff uses 3a or 5a fuses. Any idea what could case this and what i should do. Probably a failure in the primary side of the power supply, also known as the converter section. The most frequent cause of this type is failure of the bridge rectifier (if self-contained) or one of the four diodes (if not self-contained). This causes a short circuit, which blows the fuse in order to protect the power supply from additional failures. As most individuals don't have the specialized equipment, knowledge or skills to perform component-level repairs on power supplies (these contain lethal voltages, BTW), it is probably best to buy a replacement power supply and to discard the failed one. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet
At 08:37 -0700 on 13/08/02, Mark wrote: I am trying to get these two machines on a cable-modem internet connection; actually, my mac's will be on a router that originates from a pc. The 580 seems to have an ethernet port, but the 520 doesn't. Add one to it via one of its expansion slots listed in its profile on LEM :) Also, what's the going rate these days for memory for these machines? http://ramseeker.com/ -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: C650 Blows fuse!
At 16:37 +0100 on 13/08/02, Kyle Kinsey wrote: Just been fiddling with my macs again and I was booting them to check they still worked, came accross one of my c650's and it just turned off and further investigation notes that it blew the 3A fuse in the power cable! also the psu smells of burn a bit! Popking aound I note the psu is rated at 1.5a not 3 (on 200-240v), I'd usually assume this means i should use a 1.5a fuse for protection but these are not common, all computer stuff uses 3a or 5a fuses. Any idea what could case this and what i should do. Clean up the mobo first; something might have been shorting out a power line and overloading the PSU. If that doesn't stop the fuse-blowing, there's probably a short in the PSU somewhere, and quite honestly, the best fix would be to replace the PSU. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK
The disk wouldn't read, and my Norton Utilities called it a Damaged Disk. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK
At 16:09 -0400 on 13/08/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The disk wouldn't read, and my Norton Utilities called it a Damaged Disk. Did it work in other Macs at all? -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet
I am trying to get these two machines on a cable-modem internet connection; actually, my mac's will be on a router that originates from a pc. The 580 seems to have an ethernet port, but the 520 doesn't. Suggestions? Also, what's the going rate these days for memory for these machines? The 580 is a 68040, so that's a piece of cake. MacOS 8.1, Open Transport, Configure the TCP/IP control panel according to the instructions provided by the router software. (Probably something along the lines of; Always Active, Connect Via Ethernet, Get IP from DHCP Server, and a DNS Server Address or two) The 580 will use standard 72 Pin Simms. Some have two slots, some have one. I bought a 32 MB module a while back for $14. Try macsolutions.com. Service is a bit slower that some, but not horrendous, but I always get what I order. The 520 has no Ethernet, you say? Gimme a minute. Okay, it does have an LC PDS slot. Check on eBay for an Ethernet card compatible with a LC, LC II, LC II, 475, 605, 476, or Performa 520. It also has one 72 Pin SIMM slot, and wil use the same memory as the 580. Sith the 25 MHz 68030, I'd uses System 7.5.5 (Free!) and install Open Trasport, then configure it the same as the 580. Actually, if you feel a craving for speed, 7.5.5 works quite well on 68k machines, so you could use it on the 580 as well. It's only on the PPC macs that the buggy 68k emulator causes constant type 11 errors. Have fun. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK
My new file server is a Quadra 950 a friend from West Virginia gave to me for the price of shipping. It has 128 megs of RAM, a 2-gig and a 180-gig internal hard drive. I also replaced the floppy drive with an internal 24x CD-ROM drive -- much more useful than a floppy, anyway. I also have an external Zip drive attached to it. *knocks palm against side of head* I'm sorry, did you say 180 GB SCSI Hard Drive? Just checked pricewatch, they do exist... but they are at least $999! Yikes, why not just buy a new eMac to use as a server. You probably aren't kidding when you say Mac-Poor, but even an eMac could outpace the 9600 you have, and now we know you have (had?) the $$$. *guilt trip* Spending money like that on hard drives while your wife chugs away on a Quadra? Shame on you. You should buy her an iMac for Christmas, and if you don't celebrate Christmas, you should buy her one anyway. :-) */guilt trip* Yipes. -Dave -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK
Well, I am not sure if this was already advised by someone here, but: Have you also tried to swap the floppy drive cable? It is most unlikely that this cable becomes bad (how?), but try this. Another question: Have the 840av been accelerated with a faster quarz? I know that the 840av has no PDS, but I have (this is just an example) a Q610 that I once accelerated with a 48mHz 68040 PDS card (made by the German firm Formac) and: The floppy drives refuses to work when the accelerator card is on. About swapping the mobos to get a working floppy controller: The AV capabilities make the Q840av a Cult machine. So. Peter -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet
Hi Mark: I highly recommend going to www.crucial.com. I buy all my memory from them. Their prices can't be beaten, and they ship lickety-split. Just go to their website and follow the pop-ups to locate your make, model, etc., and they'll pop up a page with a quote. By the way, if you order online, you get an additional discount. Swet. Hope this helps. Allen - * Dude, you got a Dell, Now you're goin' to hell! Mark wrote: I am trying to get these two machines on a cable-modem internet connection; actually, my mac's will be on a router that originates from a pc. The 580 seems to have an ethernet port, but the 520 doesn't. Suggestions? Also, what's the going rate these days for memory for these machines? __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK
Sorry, I'm not made of money. I completely lucked into the 180-gig SCSI disk. I frequent the IU computer auctions and dump. You can often buy an entire palette of supposedly junk Macs for $5-$10. It's easy enough to piece together at least 4 or 5 working machines, which I then sell for $25-$75 each. Anyway, I bought a box of four Q840 AVs, and while trying to crank them up and popping their covers to explore their innards, lo and behold! I FOUND the 180 gig drive inside of one of the boxes. That particular machine's motherboard was TOTALLY FRIED. I mentioned that I wish I'd bought a faster hard drive when referring to it. Duu... I was thinking of a couple of other hard drives I did buy new. They're also IBM. I didn't mean to dis this HD too much. It was almost a FREEBIE, after all! I'd like to buy a new G4 tower. If I had the money to buy an eMac, I could certainly scrape enough money together for a low-end tower and have much more horsepower. Besides, like I said before, I do get a kick out of refurbishing old Macs that don't cost me much, fix 'em up, rev 'em up as much as I can and sell 'em CHEAP to disadvantaged people I discover who want a computer but can't afford one. I've made more than a few Mac fans out of a lot of people. To me, it's one of the best ways to evangelize the Mac platform. In addition, my wife LOVES her Q840-AV. The only thing she uses it for is e-mail, but she seems intrigued by it's audio/video capabilities (which aren't being used). Take that back, she's got a little Sansui stereo amp and my Bose 301 speakers hooked up to it, and she uses it for a CD jukebox while she's doing her freelance work on a Pentium III. [Don't jump on me for that. She's a Deputy County Recorder who does freelance title work at home on the side. Her machine has to be a PeeCee because the software she has to use is proprietary. She hates that machine, the application, the interface, and the people who cooked up that crap!] She was thinking of getting me the G4 tower until I caved and bought the 9600 and souped it up with a G4 processor and other goodies. What I'm really hoping for at Christmas this year is a set of Peavey drums!!! Allen - * Grand Funk Railroad is BACK!!! David Pierce wrote: My new file server is a Quadra 950 a friend from West Virginia gave to me for the price of shipping. It has 128 megs of RAM, a 2-gig and a 180-gig internal hard drive. I also replaced the floppy drive with an internal 24x CD-ROM drive -- much more useful than a floppy, anyway. I also have an external Zip drive attached to it. *knocks palm against side of head* I'm sorry, did you say 180 GB SCSI Hard Drive? Just checked pricewatch, they do exist... but they are at least $999! Yikes, why not just buy a new eMac to use as a server. You probably aren't kidding when you say Mac-Poor, but even an eMac could outpace the 9600 you have, and now we know you have (had?) the $$$. *guilt trip* Spending money like that on hard drives while your wife chugs away on a Quadra? Shame on you. You should buy her an iMac for Christmas, and if you don't celebrate Christmas, you should buy her one anyway. :-) */guilt trip* Yipes. -Dave -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet
I recommend www.crucial.com for all your memory needs. I've recommended them to dozens of people. I've always gotten a rock-bottom price (which is always lower if you order online), plus, they ship very, very quickly. Good company. Allen - David Pierce wrote: I am trying to get these two machines on a cable-modem internet connection; actually, my mac's will be on a router that originates from a pc. The 580 seems to have an ethernet port, but the 520 doesn't. Suggestions? Also, what's the going rate these days for memory for these machines? The 580 is a 68040, so that's a piece of cake. MacOS 8.1, Open Transport, Configure the TCP/IP control panel according to the instructions provided by the router software. (Probably something along the lines of; Always Active, Connect Via Ethernet, Get IP from DHCP Server, and a DNS Server Address or two) The 580 will use standard 72 Pin Simms. Some have two slots, some have one. I bought a 32 MB module a while back for $14. Try macsolutions.com. Service is a bit slower that some, but not horrendous, but I always get what I order. The 520 has no Ethernet, you say? Gimme a minute. Okay, it does have an LC PDS slot. Check on eBay for an Ethernet card compatible with a LC, LC II, LC II, 475, 605, 476, or Performa 520. It also has one 72 Pin SIMM slot, and wil use the same memory as the 580. Sith the 25 MHz 68030, I'd uses System 7.5.5 (Free!) and install Open Trasport, then configure it the same as the 580. Actually, if you feel a craving for speed, 7.5.5 works quite well on 68k machines, so you could use it on the 580 as well. It's only on the PPC macs that the buggy 68k emulator causes constant type 11 errors. Have fun. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet
At 17:57 -0500 on 13/08/02, Allen Davis wrote: I highly recommend going to www.crucial.com. I buy all my memory from them. Their prices can't be beaten, and they ship lickety-split. Just go Yes they can. And their prices for 68K RAM are ridiculous. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet
Pickle: Do you say this in a good way or a bad way??? I've found their 68k RAM prices ridiculously low! Have I been shopping in the wrong place??? Allen - the pickle wrote: At 17:57 -0500 on 13/08/02, Allen Davis wrote: I highly recommend going to www.crucial.com. I buy all my memory from them. Their prices can't be beaten, and they ship lickety-split. Just go Yes they can. And their prices for 68K RAM are ridiculous. -- the pickle -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet
At 18:42 -0500 on 13/08/02, Allen Davis wrote: Do you say this in a good way or a bad way??? I've found their 68k RAM prices ridiculously low! Have I been shopping in the wrong place??? Unless they've dropped them by about 50% since I last checked, yes, you've definitely been shopping in the wrong place. Compare these price lists: http://ramseeker.com/scripts/sortModelDetails.php?modelId=25sortSize=64mb http://www.crucial.com/store/listModule.asp?module=Fast+Page+Modepackage=72-pin+SIMMsubmit=Go -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
C650 boot time.
Hey, Still fiddling with the c650s (a different one to the one that blew a fuse earlier) and I put 2 * 32 mb simms in it and now it really takes quite a while on power on before it starts booting (ie when the video springs into action) Quick question, is this normal, does it check the memory before starting video? Cheers, kyle. +- | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |ICQ: 20955065 | Web: www.thewibblereport.co.uk | -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet
Pickle: Thanks for the links! I suppose I HAVE been buying some of my RAM in the wrong places. However, for newer machines, crucial.com is tough to beat, IMHO. Allen - the pickle wrote: At 18:42 -0500 on 13/08/02, Allen Davis wrote: Do you say this in a good way or a bad way??? I've found their 68k RAM prices ridiculously low! Have I been shopping in the wrong place??? Unless they've dropped them by about 50% since I last checked, yes, you've definitely been shopping in the wrong place. Compare these price lists: http://ramseeker.com/scripts/sortModelDetails.php?modelId=25sortSize=64mb http://www.crucial.com/store/listModule.asp?module=Fast+Page+Modepackage=72-pin+SIMMsubmit=Go -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: C650 boot time.
Kyle: You are absolutely correct. Your machine is doing a RAM check before it proceeds with the boot process. It's been so long since I've worked in System 7.x or Mac OS 8.x, I can't remember. But in OS 9.x, you can disable the RAM check during boot-up. I don't think this trick works with anything before Mac OS 9.0, but I can push Command + Option while selecting the Memory Control Panel, and I get an extra pane at the bottom of the window giving me the option of switching the startup memory tests on or off. Nifty. Turning the startup memory tests off boosts start time VERY significantly, whether rebooting or starting cold. In my own experience, I've never had RAM just go bad (unless I had a massive power surge through a sub-standard surge protector -- that's why I'm a big UPS fan now). I would suggest that anyone who uses this trick turn the startup tests back on just prior to installing new RAM. You could save yourself some grief. I HAVE bought bad RAM before -- and more than 2 or 3 times. In addition, if you've recently zapped your PRAM, your machine might be confused as to where to look for its startup disk. Open your Startup Disk CDEV, select the disk you want to boot from, then restart your Mac. That will put things right if that's the root cause of your problem. Allen - Kyle Kinsey wrote: Hey, Still fiddling with the c650s (a different one to the one that blew a fuse earlier) and I put 2 * 32 mb simms in it and now it really takes quite a while on power on before it starts booting (ie when the video springs into action) Quick question, is this normal, does it check the memory before starting video? Cheers, kyle. +- | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |ICQ: 20955065 | Web: www.thewibblereport.co.uk | -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: C650 boot time.
At 01:18 +0100 on 14/08/02, Kyle Kinsey wrote: and I put 2 * 32 mb simms in it and now it really takes quite a while on power on before it starts booting (ie when the video springs into action) Quick question, is this normal, does it check the memory before starting video? Quite normal. Stick four in there (or put 192MB into a 630) and the delay with 64MB will seem quite short :) -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: C650 boot time.
At 19:46 -0500 on 13/08/02, Allen Davis wrote: It's been so long since I've worked in System 7.x or Mac OS 8.x, I can't remember. But in OS 9.x, you can disable the RAM check during boot-up. I don't think this trick works with anything before Mac OS 9.0, but I can push Command + Option while selecting the Memory Control Panel, and I It started with 8.5. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet
At 19:32 -0500 on 13/08/02, Allen Davis wrote: Thanks for the links! I suppose I HAVE been buying some of my RAM in the wrong places. However, for newer machines, crucial.com is tough to beat, IMHO. The couple extra dollars they charge for newer RAM is probably worth the brand name, but they definitely aren't the cheapest source by any means. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: C650 boot time.
Pickle: Kewel, DUDE! I'll give it a shot on the ol' 950! Allen - the pickle wrote: At 19:46 -0500 on 13/08/02, Allen Davis wrote: It's been so long since I've worked in System 7.x or Mac OS 8.x, I can't remember. But in OS 9.x, you can disable the RAM check during boot-up. I don't think this trick works with anything before Mac OS 9.0, but I can push Command + Option while selecting the Memory Control Panel, and I It started with 8.5. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet
Pickle: I'm glad you wrote. I've always found crucial.com to be much cheaper than the sources I've looked at in the ads at the back of MacWorld and MacAddict magazines. I'll say one thing good about crucial.com: I bought a faulty 32-meg DIMM from them one time, and they sent me a 64-meg DIMM to replace it -- and they did it BEFORE they actually received my returned bad DIMM. They just took me at my word I'd shipped it back! NOW THAT'S CUSTOMER SERVICE! They didn't have to do that, after all. And especially BEFORE getting my bad DIMM back in their hands! I still appreciate the links you sent before. Crucial.com is often out-of-stock on really, really old Mac memory, but they seem to find it if you ask them to. I still say crucial.com is a good company to do business with. Thanks again. Allen - the pickle wrote: At 19:32 -0500 on 13/08/02, Allen Davis wrote: Thanks for the links! I suppose I HAVE been buying some of my RAM in the wrong places. However, for newer machines, crucial.com is tough to beat, IMHO. The couple extra dollars they charge for newer RAM is probably worth the brand name, but they definitely aren't the cheapest source by any means. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 520/580
From: David Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LC 520/580 and ethernet In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The 580 is a 68040, so that's a piece of cake. Speaking of which, I just bought a 580 for ($3.35 US) at the thrift store, got it apart and low and behold it had a full 33MHz '040 in it. (which I promptly transplanted to my pet 575). Did the LC 580s come with full '040s or ya think this was just an upgrade and I got lucky? Cheers, Cobey -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 520/580
At 22:48 -0600 on 13/08/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did the LC 580s come with full '040s or ya think this was just an upgrade and I got lucky? The latter. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml Software Archive ftp://download:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//Users/thepickl/Sites/Archive/ http://www.members.jmug.org/%7Ethepickl/archive/ _ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840AV FLOPPY WON'T WORK
You are one lucky dude. I wish I could 'find' expensive computer equipment. Sorry, I'm not made of money. I completely lucked into the 180-gig SCSI disk. I frequent the IU computer auctions and dump. You can often buy an entire palette of supposedly junk Macs for $5-$10. It's easy enough to piece together at least 4 or 5 working machines, which I then sell for $25-$75 each. Anyway, I bought a box of four Q840 AVs, and while trying to crank them up and popping their covers to explore their innards, lo and behold! I FOUND the 180 gig drive inside of one of the boxes. That particular machine's motherboard was TOTALLY FRIED. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: C650 boot time.
My Quadra 650 has 68 MBs of RAM, and it takes quite a while to check memory before it loads the OS. AFAIK, that's normal. - Original Message - From: Kyle Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Quadlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:18 PM Subject: C650 boot time. Hey, Still fiddling with the c650s (a different one to the one that blew a fuse earlier) and I put 2 * 32 mb simms in it and now it really takes quite a while on power on before it starts booting (ie when the video springs into action) Quick question, is this normal, does it check the memory before starting video? Cheers, kyle. +- | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |ICQ: 20955065 | Web: www.thewibblereport.co.uk | -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
