[Quantum Owners] New xtreme owner
Apologies in advance, this is a double post from the proboards Quantum group. I have an Oxford Blue Xtreme that I bought a couple of weeks back. It is running a bit hot at times (it is quite content up to 75mph continuous and just flying about but if i push on up to 85mph it will rise to 100 degrees and then struggle to come back down even with a decent cool down cruise. Running the fan manually only seems to do so much (it is blowing through correctly - not running backwards). The story so far is: -The expansion tank cap threads were tired and jumped so I have put a replacement bottle on. -The top rad hose was down to canvas in places with a couple of big cracks almost all the way through which I have replaced. -The heater was plumbed in copper heating pipe which looked to have been leaking at the joint with the rubber pipe. Replaced with silicone heater hose and proper clips. -I have added a fill point to the top radiator hose highest point so I can get the air out for definite. -If found that if I let it get really hot I can see the tiniest little bubble occasionally coming from a pin prick hole in the radiator top tank (needs repairing). Top of rad is slightly deformed near this pin hole where bleed screw (temp sensor hole?) looks to have been yanked on too hard to free it off. Otherwise rad is pretty good condition. -Next check is to check existence and condition of correct thermostat. -Mixture is overly rich at the mo (can see puffs of black smoke on part throttle occasionally on twin 40s) so it shouldn't be that. Trying to get it dynoed / set-up once cooling is behaving. -Ignition timing has vacuum capped off so need to check timing is ball park with a strobe. -Check calibration on temp gauge in case it is lying. -After that I was going to put a bit more cooling through bonnet by cutting some nice holes in it (it has 5 round holes probably 1 or so in there already. It gets really hot under the bonnet. Spoke to quantum about just buying a new radiator but they dont do them anymore? Design has changed on newer cars post 2010 and old one isn't available. I am assuming the stock system of quantum radiator on a fairly mild 2.0 pinto should be man enough for the job. So the questions are: -Does anyone know if the quantum rad is an out-and-out special or does it come from somewhere else (it is donor sierra according to the list). -Are there any obvious mods to get more air moving over it (ducts and holes etc). I have seen on the v8 xtreme thread that Chris is running the radiator upright where mine is laid back against the chassis at an angle -Is there a more modern alternative rad. -Is getting rid of under bonnet heat more relevant as big SPAL fan is ultimately blowing a lot of the heat under the bonnet. -What sort of ignition advance do you run on a 2.0 pinto with a mild cam and no vacuum advance. Loads of questions!!I am not expecting it to able to sit for hours on the M25 with the engine running but I was figuring I should be able to do 85mph at 20 degrees air temp. Simon Read more: http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/953/new-xtreme-owner#ixzz3ABR56os2 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] New xtreme owner
https://plus.google.com/photos/116862370669776250647/albums/5627862055215046401 scroll down towards the bottom and you will see how my 2.0l pinto powered xtreme looked. I don't recall having overheating issues with it at all. as long as the thermostat is opening i would have thought the standard Q setup should be fine. ah now timing that could be a very good point. I changed the cam to a fr30 and went round to atspeed for a rr session. he adjusted the weights in the standard dizzy to adjust the timing curve. I am sure he mentioned something like 14degrees out. It wasn't the idle timeing that was the problem but the under load timing that changes as the dizzy spins up. I was running up to 100c but back down to something sensible post adjustment. On 12 August 2014 14:18, Simon Raglione-Hall simon.ragli...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies in advance, this is a double post from the proboards Quantum group. I have an Oxford Blue Xtreme that I bought a couple of weeks back. It is running a bit hot at times (it is quite content up to 75mph continuous and just flying about but if i push on up to 85mph it will rise to 100 degrees and then struggle to come back down even with a decent cool down cruise. Running the fan manually only seems to do so much (it is blowing through correctly - not running backwards). The story so far is: -The expansion tank cap threads were tired and jumped so I have put a replacement bottle on. -The top rad hose was down to canvas in places with a couple of big cracks almost all the way through which I have replaced. -The heater was plumbed in copper heating pipe which looked to have been leaking at the joint with the rubber pipe. Replaced with silicone heater hose and proper clips. -I have added a fill point to the top radiator hose highest point so I can get the air out for definite. -If found that if I let it get really hot I can see the tiniest little bubble occasionally coming from a pin prick hole in the radiator top tank (needs repairing). Top of rad is slightly deformed near this pin hole where bleed screw (temp sensor hole?) looks to have been yanked on too hard to free it off. Otherwise rad is pretty good condition. -Next check is to check existence and condition of correct thermostat. -Mixture is overly rich at the mo (can see puffs of black smoke on part throttle occasionally on twin 40s) so it shouldn't be that. Trying to get it dynoed / set-up once cooling is behaving. -Ignition timing has vacuum capped off so need to check timing is ball park with a strobe. -Check calibration on temp gauge in case it is lying. -After that I was going to put a bit more cooling through bonnet by cutting some nice holes in it (it has 5 round holes probably 1 or so in there already. It gets really hot under the bonnet. Spoke to quantum about just buying a new radiator but they dont do them anymore? Design has changed on newer cars post 2010 and old one isn't available. I am assuming the stock system of quantum radiator on a fairly mild 2.0 pinto should be man enough for the job. So the questions are: -Does anyone know if the quantum rad is an out-and-out special or does it come from somewhere else (it is donor sierra according to the list). -Are there any obvious mods to get more air moving over it (ducts and holes etc). I have seen on the v8 xtreme thread that Chris is running the radiator upright where mine is laid back against the chassis at an angle -Is there a more modern alternative rad. -Is getting rid of under bonnet heat more relevant as big SPAL fan is ultimately blowing a lot of the heat under the bonnet. -What sort of ignition advance do you run on a 2.0 pinto with a mild cam and no vacuum advance. Loads of questions!!I am not expecting it to able to sit for hours on the M25 with the engine running but I was figuring I should be able to do 85mph at 20 degrees air temp. Simon Read more: http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/953/new-xtreme-owner#ixzz3ABR56os2 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To unsubscribe
Re: [Quantum Owners] New xtreme owner
Thanks, that looks identical to mine in just about every way. Just need to work through things in order now and see if I can get it to behave a bit better. On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 2:39:46 PM UTC+1, Chris Xtreme wrote: https://plus.google.com/photos/116862370669776250647/albums/5627862055215046401 scroll down towards the bottom and you will see how my 2.0l pinto powered xtreme looked. I don't recall having overheating issues with it at all. as long as the thermostat is opening i would have thought the standard Q setup should be fine. ah now timing that could be a very good point. I changed the cam to a fr30 and went round to atspeed for a rr session. he adjusted the weights in the standard dizzy to adjust the timing curve. I am sure he mentioned something like 14degrees out. It wasn't the idle timeing that was the problem but the under load timing that changes as the dizzy spins up. I was running up to 100c but back down to something sensible post adjustment. On 12 August 2014 14:18, Simon Raglione-Hall simon.r...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Apologies in advance, this is a double post from the proboards Quantum group. I have an Oxford Blue Xtreme that I bought a couple of weeks back. It is running a bit hot at times (it is quite content up to 75mph continuous and just flying about but if i push on up to 85mph it will rise to 100 degrees and then struggle to come back down even with a decent cool down cruise. Running the fan manually only seems to do so much (it is blowing through correctly - not running backwards). The story so far is: -The expansion tank cap threads were tired and jumped so I have put a replacement bottle on. -The top rad hose was down to canvas in places with a couple of big cracks almost all the way through which I have replaced. -The heater was plumbed in copper heating pipe which looked to have been leaking at the joint with the rubber pipe. Replaced with silicone heater hose and proper clips. -I have added a fill point to the top radiator hose highest point so I can get the air out for definite. -If found that if I let it get really hot I can see the tiniest little bubble occasionally coming from a pin prick hole in the radiator top tank (needs repairing). Top of rad is slightly deformed near this pin hole where bleed screw (temp sensor hole?) looks to have been yanked on too hard to free it off. Otherwise rad is pretty good condition. -Next check is to check existence and condition of correct thermostat. -Mixture is overly rich at the mo (can see puffs of black smoke on part throttle occasionally on twin 40s) so it shouldn't be that. Trying to get it dynoed / set-up once cooling is behaving. -Ignition timing has vacuum capped off so need to check timing is ball park with a strobe. -Check calibration on temp gauge in case it is lying. -After that I was going to put a bit more cooling through bonnet by cutting some nice holes in it (it has 5 round holes probably 1 or so in there already. It gets really hot under the bonnet. Spoke to quantum about just buying a new radiator but they dont do them anymore? Design has changed on newer cars post 2010 and old one isn't available. I am assuming the stock system of quantum radiator on a fairly mild 2.0 pinto should be man enough for the job. So the questions are: -Does anyone know if the quantum rad is an out-and-out special or does it come from somewhere else (it is donor sierra according to the list). -Are there any obvious mods to get more air moving over it (ducts and holes etc). I have seen on the v8 xtreme thread that Chris is running the radiator upright where mine is laid back against the chassis at an angle -Is there a more modern alternative rad. -Is getting rid of under bonnet heat more relevant as big SPAL fan is ultimately blowing a lot of the heat under the bonnet. -What sort of ignition advance do you run on a 2.0 pinto with a mild cam and no vacuum advance. Loads of questions!!I am not expecting it to able to sit for hours on the M25 with the engine running but I was figuring I should be able to do 85mph at 20 degrees air temp. Simon Read more: http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/953/new-xtreme-owner#ixzz3ABR56os2 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantu...@googlegroups.com javascript: To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowner...@googlegroups.com javascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to
Re: [Quantum Owners] New xtreme owner
what is your ignition setup ? stock ford or some after market? is it a standard dizzy? On 12 August 2014 14:46, Simon Raglione-Hall simon.ragli...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, that looks identical to mine in just about every way. Just need to work through things in order now and see if I can get it to behave a bit better. On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 2:39:46 PM UTC+1, Chris Xtreme wrote: https://plus.google.com/photos/116862370669776250647/ albums/5627862055215046401 scroll down towards the bottom and you will see how my 2.0l pinto powered xtreme looked. I don't recall having overheating issues with it at all. as long as the thermostat is opening i would have thought the standard Q setup should be fine. ah now timing that could be a very good point. I changed the cam to a fr30 and went round to atspeed for a rr session. he adjusted the weights in the standard dizzy to adjust the timing curve. I am sure he mentioned something like 14degrees out. It wasn't the idle timeing that was the problem but the under load timing that changes as the dizzy spins up. I was running up to 100c but back down to something sensible post adjustment. On 12 August 2014 14:18, Simon Raglione-Hall simon.r...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies in advance, this is a double post from the proboards Quantum group. I have an Oxford Blue Xtreme that I bought a couple of weeks back. It is running a bit hot at times (it is quite content up to 75mph continuous and just flying about but if i push on up to 85mph it will rise to 100 degrees and then struggle to come back down even with a decent cool down cruise. Running the fan manually only seems to do so much (it is blowing through correctly - not running backwards). The story so far is: -The expansion tank cap threads were tired and jumped so I have put a replacement bottle on. -The top rad hose was down to canvas in places with a couple of big cracks almost all the way through which I have replaced. -The heater was plumbed in copper heating pipe which looked to have been leaking at the joint with the rubber pipe. Replaced with silicone heater hose and proper clips. -I have added a fill point to the top radiator hose highest point so I can get the air out for definite. -If found that if I let it get really hot I can see the tiniest little bubble occasionally coming from a pin prick hole in the radiator top tank (needs repairing). Top of rad is slightly deformed near this pin hole where bleed screw (temp sensor hole?) looks to have been yanked on too hard to free it off. Otherwise rad is pretty good condition. -Next check is to check existence and condition of correct thermostat. -Mixture is overly rich at the mo (can see puffs of black smoke on part throttle occasionally on twin 40s) so it shouldn't be that. Trying to get it dynoed / set-up once cooling is behaving. -Ignition timing has vacuum capped off so need to check timing is ball park with a strobe. -Check calibration on temp gauge in case it is lying. -After that I was going to put a bit more cooling through bonnet by cutting some nice holes in it (it has 5 round holes probably 1 or so in there already. It gets really hot under the bonnet. Spoke to quantum about just buying a new radiator but they dont do them anymore? Design has changed on newer cars post 2010 and old one isn't available. I am assuming the stock system of quantum radiator on a fairly mild 2.0 pinto should be man enough for the job. So the questions are: -Does anyone know if the quantum rad is an out-and-out special or does it come from somewhere else (it is donor sierra according to the list). -Are there any obvious mods to get more air moving over it (ducts and holes etc). I have seen on the v8 xtreme thread that Chris is running the radiator upright where mine is laid back against the chassis at an angle -Is there a more modern alternative rad. -Is getting rid of under bonnet heat more relevant as big SPAL fan is ultimately blowing a lot of the heat under the bonnet. -What sort of ignition advance do you run on a 2.0 pinto with a mild cam and no vacuum advance. Loads of questions!!I am not expecting it to able to sit for hours on the M25 with the engine running but I was figuring I should be able to do 85mph at 20 degrees air temp. Simon Read more: http://quantumforum.proboards.com/thread/953/new- xtreme-owner#ixzz3ABR56os2 -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantu...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowner...@ googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum
Re: [Quantum Owners] New xtreme owner
Looks like stock ford as far as i can tell, haven't even got as far as taking dizzy cap off yet. The engine was originally from an '88 injected sierra so I am assuming it is using a pickup rather than points. Engine starts and fires brilliantly so I had been leaving it until a bit later but I am thinking it is time to dig out my timing light. I read somewhere that the standard timing marks on a pinto are woefully inaccurate too so may have to have #1 plug out to double check the location of TDC. On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 4:24:32 PM UTC+1, Chris Xtreme wrote: what is your ignition setup ? stock ford or some after market? is it a standard dizzy? On 12 August 2014 14:46, Simon Raglione-Hall simon.r...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks, that looks identical to mine in just about every way. Just need to work through things in order now and see if I can get it to behave a bit better. On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 2:39:46 PM UTC+1, Chris Xtreme wrote: https://plus.google.com/photos/116862370669776250647/ albums/5627862055215046401 scroll down towards the bottom and you will see how my 2.0l pinto powered xtreme looked. I don't recall having overheating issues with it at all. as long as the thermostat is opening i would have thought the standard Q setup should be fine. ah now timing that could be a very good point. I changed the cam to a fr30 and went round to atspeed for a rr session. he adjusted the weights in the standard dizzy to adjust the timing curve. I am sure he mentioned something like 14degrees out. It wasn't the idle timeing that was the problem but the under load timing that changes as the dizzy spins up. I was running up to 100c but back down to something sensible post adjustment. On 12 August 2014 14:18, Simon Raglione-Hall simon.r...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies in advance, this is a double post from the proboards Quantum group. I have an Oxford Blue Xtreme that I bought a couple of weeks back. It is running a bit hot at times (it is quite content up to 75mph continuous and just flying about but if i push on up to 85mph it will rise to 100 degrees and then struggle to come back down even with a decent cool down cruise. Running the fan manually only seems to do so much (it is blowing through correctly - not running backwards). The story so far is: -The expansion tank cap threads were tired and jumped so I have put a replacement bottle on. -The top rad hose was down to canvas in places with a couple of big cracks almost all the way through which I have replaced. -The heater was plumbed in copper heating pipe which looked to have been leaking at the joint with the rubber pipe. Replaced with silicone heater hose and proper clips. -I have added a fill point to the top radiator hose highest point so I can get the air out for definite. -If found that if I let it get really hot I can see the tiniest little bubble occasionally coming from a pin prick hole in the radiator top tank (needs repairing). Top of rad is slightly deformed near this pin hole where bleed screw (temp sensor hole?) looks to have been yanked on too hard to free it off. Otherwise rad is pretty good condition. -Next check is to check existence and condition of correct thermostat. -Mixture is overly rich at the mo (can see puffs of black smoke on part throttle occasionally on twin 40s) so it shouldn't be that. Trying to get it dynoed / set-up once cooling is behaving. -Ignition timing has vacuum capped off so need to check timing is ball park with a strobe. -Check calibration on temp gauge in case it is lying. -After that I was going to put a bit more cooling through bonnet by cutting some nice holes in it (it has 5 round holes probably 1 or so in there already. It gets really hot under the bonnet. Spoke to quantum about just buying a new radiator but they dont do them anymore? Design has changed on newer cars post 2010 and old one isn't available. I am assuming the stock system of quantum radiator on a fairly mild 2.0 pinto should be man enough for the job. So the questions are: -Does anyone know if the quantum rad is an out-and-out special or does it come from somewhere else (it is donor sierra according to the list). -Are there any obvious mods to get more air moving over it (ducts and holes etc). I have seen on the v8 xtreme thread that Chris is running the radiator upright where mine is laid back against the chassis at an angle -Is there a more modern alternative rad. -Is getting rid of under bonnet heat more relevant as big SPAL fan is ultimately blowing a lot of the heat under the bonnet. -What sort of ignition advance do you run on a 2.0 pinto with a mild cam and no vacuum advance. Loads of questions!!I am not expecting it to able to sit for hours on the M25 with the engine running but I was figuring I should be able to do 85mph at 20 degrees air temp. Simon Read more:
[Quantum Owners] New Xtreme Owner- again
After I lost my Xtreme last year in the accident and got insurance payout at Christmas, I started looking for a new car a few weeks ago. I was looking for a prebuilt example this time so that I could use it quickly and save the hassle of SVA, etc and it wasn't going to be another Xtreme or yellow or a pinto engine...but... when I looked on e-bay and found a yellow Xtreme virtually ready for SVA with a bid closing at 6pm that night, and it is in Bristol about 6 miles away from where I live, it seemed it was inevitable that I would once again be a Quantum owner. So, I now have an Xtreme in the garage needing, hopefully, minor works to get it ready for SVA. I have only just started looking at it and a couple of questions have come to light and I was hoping for some advice re SVA requirements:- 1. Do the indicators need to be self cancelling? mine do not for some reason. if needed can anyone advise how to get woring again 2. Front flexible brake hoses: off side is stretched tight on full lock one way but near side looks fine the other way. Can anyone assist with any ideas why this would be? Hoses are not twisted. 3. This chassis is older than my previous Xtreme and I was looking for a chassis stamp but could not find one: any ideas where to look, or did older Xtremes not have chassis numbers stamped on them? 4. This car has a pinto engine with twin webber carbs that need tuning as they only tick over and if you increase revs they just sputter. How easy is it to balance and set up the carbs or would I be better getting someone in to do hte work. If so, any idea how much this costs? Thanks for your assistance. I am looking forward to finishing and getting back on the road soon Ian Mac --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
