[qubes-users] Re: I miss the KDE cpu sensor
On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 9:48:36 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote: > You miss the KDE sensor for CPU, I miss the networking stats... On NetVM and > FirewallVm I have to run bwm-ng all the time because I can't see each > individual network stats. haha nice, I have to check that applet out. Ya man sometimes when my old dinosaur of a computer start lagging out i'm like wtf is going on. I look in qubes manager and everything adding to like 20% use from a couple vms. I look at kde applet and its showing like 90% total cpu use and I think ok, it wasn't just me in head, something is going on and try to investigate.Would love i/o activity in qubes manager as well. I still run etherape on screen in sys-net. So much better then feeling like its making me vulnerable on bare metal os, who cares if etherape gets hacked in sys net, plus I remove that vm often anyways lol. On this machine it prolly don't matter but good practice anyways imo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/05bd31ac-1fe4-4441-b37a-900e1045a902%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: I miss the KDE cpu sensor
xfce has what? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/3ac71949-2c5c-4eaf-bdb7-67106060ee4b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Networking
On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 9:34:31 PM UTC-4, Drew White wrote: > On Wednesday, 20 July 2016 01:46:25 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > > > ok I owe you an apology man. You are probably right. > > You don't owe me an apology because there is nothing to apologise for. > > > the list of problems for me keep growing also. I guess because I'm such a > > fan and want Qubes to be more mainstream its hard to admit. And even > > though Qubes is easy to use, you really have to walk on eggshells to not > > break things or keep them functioning properly. So I guess in that sense > > its not as user friendly as it could be. > > I'd love for it to be mainstream, but the way it is, with bugs still from the > beginning of Qubes, and version 2 and 3 in there, it's hard to get it to go > mainstream. > > I've told many people about Qubes, and then Qubes got changed in some way, > and it broke, and they used it and asked me why I said that it was good when > it was broken. > > I've had version 3.1 for ages, and then 3.2 they bring out with Fedora 24 and > KDE 5, which is so broken it just keeps breaking. That put off numerous > people, fixing something that isn't broken instead of fixing what is broken > and concentrating on that. > > > > For example i have to remember to shutdown all appvms or else it doesn't > > even shutdown properly and i have to hard power off. Or having to remember > > to unmount and detach block devices to avoid having to restart pc cause of > > error if wanting to re-attach them. (which happens sometimes anyways with > > multiple devices attached) Or loading or shutting down vms too fast which > > cause errors. > > I've not had that issue since version 2.1 of Qubes. Back then it needed that, > but since then everything shuts down correctly. But I've also edited > templates to put my startup scripts in, put protection on, and more. So they > don't take long to shutdown beecause I've removed stuff that takes forever to > shut down/die/stop. > > > > Then there are bugs that annoy me like firefox not being able to go > > fullscreen without freezing in Qubes. Or wake and suspend issues i'm not > > starting to have. And this is not even counting the random bugs that > > causes vms not to shutdown or templates not to update or qubes manager to > > crash. > > I have firefox full screen when I want it to be, in 3.1. > > I find the wake issue is due to the manager and it's memory leak. Thus I've > had to make my own cure for that, as usual, since I've had to for many other > things too. > > > > > So basically I'm very wrong to doubt your issues, because I have alot of > > problems myself when I'm not even doing anything as advanced as you. It > > seems Qubes is not easy to develop for and I imagine its a hell of alot of > > work for one guy. And its not your typical project that is basically just > > a custom debian. Its a whole nother thing altogether and I just hope it > > succeeds because I really do believe the whole idea and philosophy of Qubes > > is the future. > > At work, I'm a coder and a developer. At home I'm just a standard user. And > there are things I don't do, like YouTube and videos and all like that. So > I'm actually not using as a "normal user", but I am a "normal user" when I'm > at home. > > Qubes is good, and it could be so much better. > The upgrade to Fedora 24 and KDE5, totally unnessicary. They never should > have done that. > They could have had Fedora 20, and kept the repos somewhere. Then Just > secured and kept it up to date with a stable system, instead of going > unstable, even just for a candidate it's too unstable. Ya debian still uses kde4. There is probably nothing kde5 can do better security or functionality wise. Some people still have the shutdown issue. I had it on 3.0 and i believe on 3.1 also on two machines. I know Eva on the mailing list have the issue it depends on whats running. But I haven't noticed it lately. Firefox only use to freeze full screen for me in 3.1 with fedora templates. But worked in debian and whonix. Ever since debian dropped the firefox weasel to firefox esr for some reason now on my machine it has same issue fedora always had in Qubes. I have disliked fedora since fedora 20, Fedora 19 was a good one. But ever since then more and more unstable. And I think it was fedora 22 that introduced dnf which I dont' like and a whole lot of other problems. But I agree i have no problem with the older DE versions. I don't need the new fancy desktop themes or for my old hardware to become unsupported. And for new hardware like skylake stuff I'm sure they could just upgrade kernels and keep lts or older ones available. Right now everyone is demanding gpu passthrough lol. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
[qubes-users] Re: I miss the KDE cpu sensor
You miss the KDE sensor for CPU, I miss the networking stats... On NetVM and FirewallVm I have to run bwm-ng all the time because I can't see each individual network stats. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8baca9d0-5ddb-4f98-93e7-2fb7f89b9ccf%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: I miss the KDE cpu sensor
On Wednesday, 20 July 2016 01:01:48 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > ya that is what i'm doing now, since qubes manager is never accurate. But it > doesn't show a total. and was just nice to have that applet on the panel of > kde. The qubes manager isn't that innacurate. I know that XFCE has it. Maybe try that instead? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/386722fb-3348-4073-90e8-c04bb44b48e7%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] dom0 gui daemon do not support protocol version 1:1
On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 10:21:55 PM UTC-4, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 8:05:30 PM UTC-4, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 7:45:38 PM UTC-4, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > > wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA256 > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 04:43:09PM -0700, raahe...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > ya doesn't work. vms dont' start properly. sys-firewall can't start > > > > qubes-guid > > > > > > > > can't read /var/lib/qubes/dom0-updates/etc/yum.conf > > > > cant' create transaction lock on /var/lib/qubes/./.rpm.lock no > > > > such file or drecitory > > > > checking for dom0 updates > > > > CRITICAL: yum.cli:COnfig Error : Error accessing file for > > > > qubes-dom0-updates/et/yum.conf > > > > > > But you've said yum info show 3.2.x is available - which would mean you > > > have the packages already downloaded. Try just 'sudo yum update' in > > > dom0. > > > > > > > > > - -- > > > Best Regards, > > > Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > > > Invisible Things Lab > > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > > > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > > Version: GnuPG v2 > > > > > > iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXjWodAAoJENuP0xzK19csHqkH/Rfz9HAUksNE+D2H8FqbG/cW > > > ckSDpIy6qxK1mtggCOn5Ahi7kf87NzZgvnbP/GWwY2ac2c73TU8C9TrEGKEM8VRI > > > rGQ9+yyg3Xz7MO0u2LC2Luxds0gUMHzhGEqthpwpDIY32+WaAIW4paJccFS8Ucml > > > i3W6Bon/E19Pjx1GlyhQ7QT5tx9hZMhwYWm976SXyHmAkC1FM+Tzpv8eNKYT6cit > > > P6iW4F2jZJAbLTsY/hE2QY1yw3o1A9foWmCaPbRCKbyJfvf3SwHFeH5hxiMWsK8R > > > Z5ZBklhEoxg/p7SzZQtRZauIrjLhG3NzbSwedm+IbHskRULKktI4hN22c9hNmTc= > > > =hOx3 > > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > yes when I do sudo yum info qubes-core-dom0 it shows me installed and > > available. When I first did that I saw the 3.2.3 and assumed it was > > installed. I'm not sure that means its downloaded though? > > > > Whole reason i tried this cause I'm having wake suspend issues on xfce that > > I haven't had previously when using kde. I thought the newer version > > might fix that. Or was that a dumb idea? > > so nothing else for me to do? reinstall? so the restore worked ok. only thing was I apparently forgot to back up the vm i used with ssh keys lol, and a cloned template i used for printing. ugh. just gonna back up all vms next time. but all my other vms restored no problem back to 3.1. Gonna stay with that until 3.2 is final and stick with kde for now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5f35140a-0eaa-4f9f-b10f-6b6c33d13a13%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] rsync ssh connection in AppVM failing
Hello Andrew, I just want to say that whatever was causing my previous problems is no longer doing so. Even though I'm doing nothing differently, rsync is running fine now. Thank you, Paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/60be11eb-7839-414f-b2d5-b597a5577c20%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] [bug] Inter-VM Copy/Paste Broken After Long Uptime
Marek Marczykowski-Górecki: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 01:13:22PM +, Andrew wrote: >> Hello, > >> I have one particular Qubes instance with an uptime >60 days. >> Aside from needing to occasionally restart Qubes Manager to deal >> with the memory leak problem, this works fine. > >> However, recently, I have become unable to copy and paste between >> VMs. Pressing the key combination appears to do nothing. FWIW, >> /var/run/qubes/qubes-clipboard.bin and >> /var/run/qubes/qubes-clipboard.bin.source are both 0-sized files >> (presumably) dated to back when inter-VM copy/paste stopped >> working. > >> Any suggestions on how to debug? > > Yes, remove /var/run/qubes/qubes-clipboard.bin.xevent > > The file contains X event timestamp of last copy/paste operation > (to avoid some race conditions). But this counter overflows after > some time (a month or so) and our code do not handle this case. > > I see, thanks. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7b1ef5f1-5d55-74d7-80b0-511b370751df%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] [bug] Inter-VM Copy/Paste Broken After Long Uptime
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 01:13:22PM +, Andrew wrote: > Hello, > > I have one particular Qubes instance with an uptime >60 days. Aside > from needing to occasionally restart Qubes Manager to deal with the > memory leak problem, this works fine. > > However, recently, I have become unable to copy and paste between VMs. > Pressing the key combination appears to do nothing. FWIW, > /var/run/qubes/qubes-clipboard.bin and > /var/run/qubes/qubes-clipboard.bin.source are both 0-sized files > (presumably) dated to back when inter-VM copy/paste stopped working. > > Any suggestions on how to debug? Yes, remove /var/run/qubes/qubes-clipboard.bin.xevent The file contains X event timestamp of last copy/paste operation (to avoid some race conditions). But this counter overflows after some time (a month or so) and our code do not handle this case. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXjoVrAAoJENuP0xzK19csJOwH/iXTl3LwfmhG756g8IwhBSs8 uaoSAh3LIU46P1Fjy0f4+0hZnl6EHfvmKY0YkcX2Kq6ZqBlHXdfkcooCGGqLYilX 5NKD5hmGcVPtAcgZ1eRADXxyUBoMgeCEoQo95M7/Y4dQFsvJbp+pyX+zASRL9YZf G7LN9yRG29EjRnWSi2briSKYyoTP4Wn3euF4USlPZ67k01uVNLigCcurzPGKw2HT z+UHtqMPJYFQ/eajJBjENwyozLRRNa3G2wgte7M8eU3rWAbQmIeJlY6QLo7E4Tba oYve8pRem8/vD4mIKBavfc6wzaG9MvdpUlc3iPWt9+W3FEXbk5rLkBzI0Y9/mhw= =qQCd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20160719195419.GS1161%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Menu System
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-07-19 05:50, Drew White wrote: > Hi folks, > > I added the KDE manager for the menus, and I add my custom menu > items, but after things are installed, they don't get added, > that's why I added them. After that, when I add something from the > system that I want in the menu, or remove something I don't want, > the ENTIRE folder system gets removed, then gets re-added, and thus > I have to re-add my custom menu items again. > > Can this please be remedied? > > I think it would be easier for the devs to do it, rather than me > trying to find it and follow everything through to fix it. :} > Take a look at this issue (and the linked message and thread): https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2149 - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXjnVmAAoJENtN07w5UDAw4wIQALrp9pvR9gtJNW24/wYNIsC3 lD8wo/EdHs6q1Sl+pSKfQihw7hr7sjHvrcLOKT4c/Hw1eBXGz0gNn+Ao0RNX1ic+ 3Xj8A39DH3oQxGOp9MAdSL+VivfhetYfjBE/TAhD0iDIf9X7yUVLeLm0etTC/KKF 0U5es9481K4A8CoG7begcTMqp6PfGH3YFF+aQZik2irp0K2v8XV4YWfuyhcoDuNT se49JPNR3SwsB4CgCNZezOC7gIGJzSW9AzMRbop/IoT+ha6MPjCMvlgbYCrFphtS uC84hsS7IZAM2BJ2tCcM3xxQIhNiTk4fV4CU1+l9Wm+Ji9sasR7pslExBIQyY7PV h3XJzWcvuROmkCt6ErOTpJdk24bu78cZ8eYRGznP0UXbGiRODAbsedQ/AWrRdWAJ FPb+ATFhj1HDE9k8RrW7Lgq5nexB8IKiEjq2foHFf6eEqEMQu61n0V2z88wBAhRB dvaY9t5Inzqwk7GTwFWPzB34bQqRCgtzknJUMv+MDx9Sjx08XiGV4HEWrdjOkWu/ qv1vn/U6saIQRrHZlrrllENN2p2DM0L72qkrqj0FlvH7zo7BGmB+rx4vMI1hLyGX /B++NTivufd6FWK3qHFq+oTaYG2VFf16YTSOXGrv/vjUAjKOZBPaIdRb0Aun0fMy 5Gayk01FZc0C51NSiIjg =HR1o -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8f68f43e-fad2-7ae7-6c46-1aef4191516f%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] How to make a Multi "domain" Launcher
On 07/19/2016 08:56 AM, donoban wrote: Hi, Since long time ago I was thinking that would be nice to have multi-options icons/launcher instead of having a lot of same icons for different domains. I thought it should require some hacking on xfce/kde but today I started to think on it and discovered: www.linuxliteos.com/forums/tutorials/how-to-make-a-multi-level-launcher/ It's really nice and works like a charm! Thanks for the link! It's also a good replacement for "recent apps" which got lost in the transition from KDE to XFCE. Regards, RB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/a239729b-821d-8612-29b2-f39a06f6e3ef%40reboli.nl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: recent wake suspend issues
On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 11:51:46 AM UTC-4, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > getting nmi watchdog soft lockup irq error, or just the desktop freezing > couple seconds after waking.Don't think its a hardware issue cause it > doesn't happen otherwise. > > Could it be a recent update causing it or the fact I'm using xfce now instead > of kde? I forgot to say this is on 3.1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/bd009532-9887-4ad9-bc50-f2e65cd0c229%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] recent wake suspend issues
getting nmi watchdog soft lockup irq error, or just the desktop freezing couple seconds after waking.Don't think its a hardware issue cause it doesn't happen otherwise. Could it be a recent update causing it or the fact I'm using xfce now instead of kde? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/34bbc58c-35d6-4bf6-a2ae-b7a03ce6b41d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Networking
On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 11:02:49 AM UTC-4, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 8:12:34 AM UTC-4, Drew White wrote: > > On Monday, 18 July 2016 12:59:49 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Qubes really isn't that hard to use, but for some reason its got that > > > stigma attached to it. Its different is all it is. Anyone who uses > > > windows and doesn't need to play games can use it imo. I taught my > > > family how to update qubes, attach usb block device from usbvm, use the > > > different vms for different tasks, copy and paste, transfer files > > > between vms. Its all with mouse and gui, whats the big deal? > > > > > > I dunno I just wonder how you find 200 bugs lol. most people using qubes > > > don't have such problems. When your a normal person you don't go looking > > > for problems. As long as it can do what you want to do. All these > > > problems don't seem to be the case for most users. Is there really a > > > difference in networking between 3.1 and 3.2? I wonder what it is. You > > > sure you using the best drivers? Maybe the kernel is the difference. > > > > How do I find 200 bugs? I read the screen. I see what it says. I don't go > > looking for them, they just appear there. Just like the bugs in the Qubes > > manager that have been there since version 2.0 of Qubes, maybe even > > earlier, and they have not even been fixed, and yet I see them every say on > > my screen, often shows 100 times or more in one day... I don't see how a > > bug like that could be missed. > > > > Yes, there does appear to be something different in the networking. Not to > > mention the KDE crashes in 3.2 whenever you change any settings in the > > Qubes Manager. What they changed I have no idea. but in 3.1 I can't get > > more than 100 Mbps from any Unix or Windows guest through a NetVM, but in > > 3.2, it all works find from Unix based guests, but Windows is still only > > 100 Mbps. > > ok I owe you an apology man. You are probably right. the list of problems for me keep growing also. I guess because I'm such a fan and want Qubes to be more mainstream its hard to admit. And even though Qubes is easy to use, you really have to walk on eggshells to not break things or keep them functioning properly. So I guess in that sense its not as user friendly as it could be. For example i have to remember to shutdown all appvms or else it doesn't even shutdown properly and i have to hard power off. Or having to remember to unmount and detach block devices to avoid having to restart pc cause of error if wanting to re-attach them. (which happens sometimes anyways with multiple devices attached) Or loading or shutting down vms too fast which cause errors. Then there are bugs that annoy me like firefox not being able to go fullscreen without freezing in Qubes. Or wake and suspend issues i'm not starting to have. And this is not even counting the random bugs that causes vms not to shutdown or templates not to update or qubes manager to crash. So basically I'm very wrong to doubt your issues, because I have alot of problems myself when I'm not even doing anything as advanced as you. It seems Qubes is not easy to develop for and I imagine its a hell of alot of work for one guy. And its not your typical project that is basically just a custom debian. Its a whole nother thing altogether and I just hope it succeeds because I really do believe the whole idea and philosophy of Qubes is the future. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/de055b54-c0cb-4360-a532-79009dba265d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: I miss the KDE cpu sensor
On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 8:57:34 AM UTC-4, Drew White wrote: > On Monday, 18 July 2016 13:04:52 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > > It was the only way i had in qubes to see true total cpu use, nothing else > > shows it. qubes manager or top in dom0, neither does the xfce addon to > > cpu monitor i'm using called cpu graph. now I just have to go by feel haha > > and hope because my pc is so crappy that I notice something off just with > > that. :) > > run "xentop" as root. easy. :} ya that is what i'm doing now, since qubes manager is never accurate. But it doesn't show a total. and was just nice to have that applet on the panel of kde. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d49d365f-fd92-425f-ae17-fe76ad7be09c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: [bug] Inter-VM Copy/Paste Broken After Long Uptime
On Tuesday, 19 July 2016 23:13:28 UTC+10, Andrew wrote: > Hello, > > I have one particular Qubes instance with an uptime >60 days. Aside > from needing to occasionally restart Qubes Manager to deal with the > memory leak problem, this works fine. > > However, recently, I have become unable to copy and paste between VMs. > Pressing the key combination appears to do nothing. FWIW, > /var/run/qubes/qubes-clipboard.bin and > /var/run/qubes/qubes-clipboard.bin.source are both 0-sized files > (presumably) dated to back when inter-VM copy/paste stopped working. > > Any suggestions on how to debug? > > Andrew By the way,m the system isn't designed to be up for that amount of time, or so I've been told recently. Mine normally breaks after a week. Then I have to reboot. It typicaly says it's a permisison issue with the file, but ssetting the permisisons doesn't fix it, no matter what you do it can't seem to access the files.. so only a reboot works. Qubes, they say, is designed for "normal users" not people like us who don't turn off our computers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/34d01518-0bbf-41a8-a455-c8a91093541e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: [bug] Inter-VM Copy/Paste Broken After Long Uptime
On Tuesday, 19 July 2016 23:13:28 UTC+10, Andrew wrote: > Hello, > > I have one particular Qubes instance with an uptime >60 days. Aside > from needing to occasionally restart Qubes Manager to deal with the > memory leak problem, this works fine. > > However, recently, I have become unable to copy and paste between VMs. > Pressing the key combination appears to do nothing. FWIW, > /var/run/qubes/qubes-clipboard.bin and > /var/run/qubes/qubes-clipboard.bin.source are both 0-sized files > (presumably) dated to back when inter-VM copy/paste stopped working. > > Any suggestions on how to debug? > > Andrew What version of Qubes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/63fe5565-818e-4de7-bf16-af5bcf40ec82%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] [bug] Inter-VM Copy/Paste Broken After Long Uptime
Hello, I have one particular Qubes instance with an uptime >60 days. Aside from needing to occasionally restart Qubes Manager to deal with the memory leak problem, this works fine. However, recently, I have become unable to copy and paste between VMs. Pressing the key combination appears to do nothing. FWIW, /var/run/qubes/qubes-clipboard.bin and /var/run/qubes/qubes-clipboard.bin.source are both 0-sized files (presumably) dated to back when inter-VM copy/paste stopped working. Any suggestions on how to debug? Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/9f00af78-1a39-1298-441a-a7485e88957f%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: I miss the KDE cpu sensor
On Monday, 18 July 2016 13:04:52 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > It was the only way i had in qubes to see true total cpu use, nothing else > shows it. qubes manager or top in dom0, neither does the xfce addon to cpu > monitor i'm using called cpu graph. now I just have to go by feel haha and > hope because my pc is so crappy that I notice something off just with that. :) run "xentop" as root. easy. :} -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f3ec1f72-4b2d-4b03-aca1-c8655c550742%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: installer 3.2 bugs
On Saturday, 16 July 2016 20:38:33 UTC+10, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 10:22:53PM -0700, Drew White wrote: > > On Friday, 15 July 2016 11:34:24 UTC+10, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 06:19:56PM -0700, Iestyn Best wrote: > > > > @Marek please correct me if I am wrong but I believe that all standard > > > > templates (ie. fedora, debian and whonix) are installed even if you > > > > select the option "do not configure anything", it just should not > > > > create any appVMs. > > > Yes. > > > Template configuration about which Drew is talking is basically getting > > > list of installed applications and their icons, so when you create > > > VMs, you will get entries in the menu. > > > > Is that all that happens when it says it's configuring the templates? > > Yes. > > > If that is all that it is doing, why does it take so long? (just a query) > > Because it needs to start the template, download all the icons, color > them to VM label etc. I always thought it did more than that. The 3.1 installer has the same issue though. However, if I tell it to do NOTHING, and actually check that box and click next, it still tries to set up the firewall. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/fd2d9f49-8b83-4931-ae7f-57474e12403c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Network Setup Service
On Saturday, 16 July 2016 19:00:34 UTC+10, Achim Patzner wrote: > > YOU, Jeremy, are one of the people I dislike more than anyone I have ever > > met or heard from online. > > Some rabbi told me once "if you're pointing a finger at a person there will > be four fingers pointing at yourself". Let the fingers point all they want, if they don't earn my respect then such as life. There are people on here that I respect a great deal, And there are those, like Jeremy, that I want nothing to do with ever and I hate. I don't respect him in the least. As for the OP, I've got no idea now. I don't know how their query structure is set up, so I'm at a loss, sorry. that debugging info got me stumped. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2ac45838-337e-402c-8a98-0cf408203554%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Networking
On Monday, 18 July 2016 12:59:49 UTC+10, raah...@gmail.com wrote: > Qubes really isn't that hard to use, but for some reason its got that stigma > attached to it. Its different is all it is. Anyone who uses windows and > doesn't need to play games can use it imo. I taught my family how to update > qubes, attach usb block device from usbvm, use the different vms for > different tasks, copy and paste, transfer files between vms. Its all with > mouse and gui, whats the big deal? > > I dunno I just wonder how you find 200 bugs lol. most people using qubes > don't have such problems. When your a normal person you don't go looking for > problems. As long as it can do what you want to do. All these problems > don't seem to be the case for most users. Is there really a difference in > networking between 3.1 and 3.2? I wonder what it is. You sure you using the > best drivers? Maybe the kernel is the difference. How do I find 200 bugs? I read the screen. I see what it says. I don't go looking for them, they just appear there. Just like the bugs in the Qubes manager that have been there since version 2.0 of Qubes, maybe even earlier, and they have not even been fixed, and yet I see them every say on my screen, often shows 100 times or more in one day... I don't see how a bug like that could be missed. Yes, there does appear to be something different in the networking. Not to mention the KDE crashes in 3.2 whenever you change any settings in the Qubes Manager. What they changed I have no idea. but in 3.1 I can't get more than 100 Mbps from any Unix or Windows guest through a NetVM, but in 3.2, it all works find from Unix based guests, but Windows is still only 100 Mbps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/180c30d8-a2a7-414b-9fe3-bdbdb1b35188%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] How to make a Multi "domain" Launcher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, Since long time ago I was thinking that would be nice to have multi-options icons/launcher instead of having a lot of same icons for different domains. I thought it should require some hacking on xfce/kde but today I started to think on it and discovered: www.linuxliteos.com/forums/tutorials/how-to-make-a-multi-level-launcher/ It's really nice and works like a charm! Regards. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXjc8jAAoJEBQTENjj7Qil944QALKhFeqv8gm7fNEDlP8r9Bvb Vx3qYzEXeY7s9P0pX5GXlPUaF9NlnLN6cLGRh0MxnmRwQwX/OyUn3B8+nmvzE2Hx Vu+vjW1SjF4P7IyTtHf96Lr9v0s3B6aojwWCvTffkWm/jKc/GZtQT75vsl6z8KfR koe2WsuKFizgnjHOz6D/m4GI+Pen2fXJCj+phvcY556P1jENzQj1vY4tGzXP1PaQ bqLilnPO3QMlMn3UlsMTrlLdSKGAZUjr4ZenX56jXENoptjRB0AVa6qRC5CS2Zoj a1vk6WAn9mZ5iE1M9V1Fm6rJwdCLJy1jZkd4OPmFs5Ie5PGufCECdnpRaMvwA7DX ++U8xYndXPZcznUgNj4U1iKmia0E305PI7ep3EMdLPQwrhTRG2U4DAR6O8QGuqDV CSi6QudISUXPbz/fIh95idSP85U1V18NFECfzuqgQoaJgVTUvFRENaeQam57gZky cXYWCDCvCrwYib+NQdloZapjQp7oeFDkFasZDmV1A1gZyN28nqGp0XyuXbjvO0jX 2affN/tRK9ZoBVmx8pmpmQofvF9BUDqXPSJi/tTn2LIbVWeiqKG9v+zWH+XEBEEx AFCvqULtNofSx0sxc6cEnPJfkWWi9rYQSL0uIma07IvUlX5045Gg/DM/Q9kXpLxz bEAlcPi3X0yCwQZVn0gA =HNbi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ea0ae1ff-ae82-10ad-7160-962b77a73c6c%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
