Re: [qubes-users] Installing on macOS Macbook

[Jean-Philippe Ouellet]

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Andrew David Wong  wrote:
> Qubes isn't supported on VirtualBox or on Macbooks

This is the first I've heard of MacBooks being "not supported".

I know at least one person personally who is currently running Qubes
on a recent (<2yo) MacBook, and it is completely usable.

The only issues were the need for qubes-input-proxy because the
keyboard attaches via USB, and needing to somehow bootstrap wireless
drivers, fetching them via another computer and transferring them (or
sources for building them) via flash drive.

YMMV

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Re: [qubes-users] How do I get Qubes 4.0 pre-release/dev build?

[Chris Laprise]

On 12/01/2016 09:19 AM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:

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On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 02:06:16PM +, C. L. Martinez wrote:

On Thu  1.Dec'16 at 14:50:59 +0100, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:

On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 04:26:38PM +0300, Eva Star wrote:

On 12/01/2016 02:47 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:


R4 Will be fedora-23 based for dom0 right?

This is the plan right now.


Why plans always point to old fedora release? Fedora 25 already available.
Why Qubes dom0 planed to be at fedora-23? (two versions delay)

To not delay Qubes 4.0 any more than necessary. Switching to new Fedora
release requires some work. And as Andrew pointed out, it isn't a
problem for security. If anything at all, some hardware compatibility,
but we will provide newer kernel at least.


To avoid this type of situations, why not use an LTS distro (CentOS, Unbuntu 
...) for dom0??

In most cases LTS distro does not solve hardware compatibility problem
at all - you still get old drivers even if the release is still
supported. The only difference is how long bug fixes (for this outdated
software) are released.


I have found Ubuntu LTS to be well maintained with driver updates over 
the life of the release. Even if it were a problem in cases like Intel 
Skylake individuals with cutting-edge hardware could still download 
backported packages themselves.


Debian seems to be another matter... It has no true LTS (or, every 
release is "LTS" if an external team puts in the effort). Its not 
fastidious about maintaining device compatibility, and it doesn't 
perform extensive testing and certification of actual hardware 
configurations. So even though Debian benefits from a greater focus on 
security and larger package selection, it still falls short of what a PC 
OS should be in ways similar to Fedora.


Chris



So, generally it is good idea, but it will not solve this particular
problem. This is why we have this ticket:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1919
See discussion there for details.

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Re: [qubes-users] CPU hangs during installation to Shuttle XS35V4

[FuntooHacker]

On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 01:48:12AM +0100, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote:
> > 
> > Done, and same result. Screenshot attached. Must one subscribe to xen-devel 
> > in
> > order to send to the ML?
> 
> Not required.

It's been over 24 hours since I sent to the xen-devel list with no replies: 

  
https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2016-12/msg00868.html  

  


  
Could this failure to even boot Qubes be due to the CPU is an atom? Not the 

  
same arch as most x86_64.
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Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting

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Re: [qubes-users] Broken dependencies in plasma desktop dom0 - qubes 3.2

[Marek Marczykowski-Górecki]

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On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 05:43:35PM -0500, Chris Laprise wrote:
> On 12/08/2016 10:15 AM, Adrian Rocha wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I updated dom0. I see that there is updated the plasma desktop, but the 
> > update process reports many packages with broken dependencies:
> > 
> 
> I'm having a similar problem, despite dom0 dnf saying that
> qt5-qtbase-5.6.1-3 is installed:
> 
> Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:03 ago on Thu Dec  8 16:26:31 2016.
> Error: package kf5-frameworkintegration-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires
> qt5-qtbase(x86-64) = 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
> package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires qt5-qtbase(x86-64) =
> 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
> package kf5-kwayland-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires qt5-qtbase(x86-64) =
> 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
> package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires qt5-qtbase(x86-64) =
> 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
> package qt5-qtbase-5.6.1-3.fc23.x86_64 requires qt5-qtbase-common =
> 5.6.1-3.fc23, but none of the providers can be installed.
> package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires qt5-qtbase(x86-64) =
> 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
> package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires qt5-qtbase(x86-64) =
> 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
> package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires qt5-qtbase(x86-64) =
> 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
> package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires qt5-qtbase(x86-64) =
> 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
> package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires qt5-qtbase(x86-64) =
> 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
> package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires qt5-qtbase(x86-64) =
> 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed

Looks like upstream issue:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1402940

And an update on the way:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-22b09070a2

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes takes a while to shut down (>30min!), is this normal?

[Andrew David Wong]

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On 2016-12-08 15:02, raahe...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 6:25:06 AM UTC-5, Andrew David 
> Wong wrote: On 2016-12-07 05:59, jkitt wrote:
 On Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:37:36 UTC, 
 throwaw...@tutanota.com wrote:
> Hello everyone! =)
> 
> Usually when I update dom0 and then I shutdown the
> computer it takes quiet a while to finish, the progress bar
> reaches the end after nearly 5 min, but then it takes 30min
> (yes!) for it to completely shut down.
> 
> For info: When I click on Esc to see what happens after the
> progress bar reaches the end I see:
> 
> [ OK ] Reached target Shutdown
> 
> I have a Sony VAIO with a C2D.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> 
> 
> Kind regards.
 
 This is a known bug afaik. It would seem that some of the 
 mounted block devices are hanging before they can be
 properly unmounted. You can see this when you hit any of the
 F keys during shutdown.
 
 I wonder if there's a ticket?
 
> 
> Now cross-referenced with this thread:
> 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1581
> 
> 
> seems like diff bug.  I have the one where it will get hung 
> unmounting a /tmp device or something.  stuck on stop jobs back
> and forth between 1 of 2 forever.   The work around for this is to
> shut down all vms before shutting down the pc.  All the ones that
> don't start on boot is good enough on my machine.

That one is here: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1826

> But for it to freeze on reached target shutdown is weird.  Sounds 
> like another issue.

To clarify, you're saying "freeze on reached target shutdown" sounds
like it is *not* #1581?

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Re: [qubes-users] Broken dependencies in plasma desktop dom0 - qubes 3.2

[Andrew David Wong]

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On 2016-12-08 14:51, Adrian Rocha wrote:
>> I'm using KDE plasma since the beginning of Qubes 3.2 I
>> installed from the qubes repo with: $ sudo qubes-dom0-update 
>> @kde-desktop-qubes
> 
>> It worked perfectly up today.

Could be an upstream issue, then. Consider filing a bug report with
Fedora?

>> In addition to the broken dependencies. I'm worried about the 
>> stability. Why this massive update in repo qubes 3.2?

I've noticed pretty frequent dom0 updates from the Fedora repos. I
assume that using a currently-supported distro in dom0 (for the
moment, anyway) is the reason for more frequent updates (compared to
the latter part of 3.1's lifespan).

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[qubes-users] Re: qubes r2b3 first run, I don't know how to set wireless connection

[margie . adams75]

On Tuesday, December 6, 2016 at 3:55:30 PM UTC-5, larry.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
> I just downloaded qubes 3.2  ...

Can't tell you how I solved this, but I did. All's good now.

Thanks to everyone who emailed me with suggestions. I had wondered why no one 
had posted replies instead...

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes takes a while to shut down (>30min!), is this normal?

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On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 6:25:06 AM UTC-5, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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> On 2016-12-07 05:59, jkitt wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:37:36 UTC, throwaw...@tutanota.com
> > wrote:
> >> Hello everyone! =)
> >> 
> >> Usually when I update dom0 and then I shutdown the computer it
> >> takes quiet a while to finish, the progress bar reaches the end
> >> after nearly 5 min, but then it takes 30min (yes!) for it to
> >> completely shut down.
> >> 
> >> For info: When I click on Esc to see what happens after the
> >> progress bar reaches the end I see:
> >> 
> >> [ OK ] Reached target Shutdown
> >> 
> >> I have a Sony VAIO with a C2D.
> >> 
> >> Thanks in advance for your help.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Kind regards.
> > 
> > This is a known bug afaik. It would seem that some of the mounted
> > block devices are hanging before they can be properly unmounted.
> > You can see this when you hit any of the F keys during shutdown.
> > 
> > I wonder if there's a ticket?
> > 
> 
> Now cross-referenced with this thread:
> 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1581
> 
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seems like diff bug.  I have the one where it will get hung unmounting a /tmp 
device or something.  stuck on stop jobs back and forth between 1 of 2 forever. 
  The work around for this is to shut down all vms before shutting down the pc. 
 All the ones that don't start on boot is good enough on my machine.

But for it to freeze on reached target shutdown is weird.  Sounds like another 
issue.

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Re: [qubes-users] Broken dependencies in plasma desktop dom0 - qubes 3.2

[Adrian Rocha]

El jueves, 8 de diciembre de 2016, 16:04:12 (UTC-6), Andrew David Wong escribió:
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> On 2016-12-08 07:15, Adrian Rocha wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I updated dom0. I see that there is updated the plasma desktop, but the 
> > update process reports many packages with broken dependencies:
> > 
> 
> Are you using (or attempting to use) KDE in dom0 on Qubes 3.2? If so,
> it's possible that this is why you have a lot of (what appear to me to
> be) KDE-related broken dependencies. One option you might want to
> investigate is to group install KDE. Things change rather quickly in
> the Fedora/KDE world, so I'm not sure which command they're using
> nowadays, but it's probably one of these (or similar):
> 
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update @kde
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update @kde-desktop
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=groupinstall "KDE Software Compilation"

I'm using KDE plasma since the beginning of Qubes 3.2
I installed from the qubes repo with:
$ sudo qubes-dom0-update @kde-desktop-qubes

It worked perfectly up today.
In addition to the broken dependencies. I'm worried about the stability.
Why this massive update in repo qubes 3.2?
It is supposed that the fc-23 on dom0 will be just in qubes 4, right?

> 
> Note that this will probably pull a *lot* of KDE stuff into dom0, so
> be sure that you're aware of the risks before doing this.
> 
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Re: [qubes-users] Broken dependencies in plasma desktop dom0 - qubes 3.2

[Chris Laprise]

On 12/08/2016 10:15 AM, Adrian Rocha wrote:

Hi,

I updated dom0. I see that there is updated the plasma desktop, but the update 
process reports many packages with broken dependencies:



I'm having a similar problem, despite dom0 dnf saying that 
qt5-qtbase-5.6.1-3 is installed:


Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:03 ago on Thu Dec  8 16:26:31 2016.
Error: package kf5-frameworkintegration-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires 
qt5-qtbase(x86-64) = 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires 
qt5-qtbase(x86-64) = 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
package kf5-kwayland-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires qt5-qtbase(x86-64) = 
5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires 
qt5-qtbase(x86-64) = 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
package qt5-qtbase-5.6.1-3.fc23.x86_64 requires qt5-qtbase-common = 
5.6.1-3.fc23, but none of the providers can be installed.
package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires 
qt5-qtbase(x86-64) = 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires 
qt5-qtbase(x86-64) = 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires 
qt5-qtbase(x86-64) = 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires 
qt5-qtbase(x86-64) = 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires 
qt5-qtbase(x86-64) = 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
package kf5-kdeclarative-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires 
qt5-qtbase(x86-64) = 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed



Chris

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How do I move files between qubes? Why has my computer gotten slow as molasses?

[Andrew David Wong]

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On 2016-12-08 10:32, exploding...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ok. Never mind the first question.  I was misunderstanding how the 
> links to sections of the overview video were working.  But the 
> second question, about my computer suddenly becoming slow as 
> molasses with qubes is proper.  What is going on?
> 

It's going to be really hard to say without more information. Can you
tell us a bit about the details of your setup?

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Re: [qubes-users] Broken dependencies in plasma desktop dom0 - qubes 3.2

[Andrew David Wong]

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On 2016-12-08 07:15, Adrian Rocha wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I updated dom0. I see that there is updated the plasma desktop, but the 
> update process reports many packages with broken dependencies:
> 

Are you using (or attempting to use) KDE in dom0 on Qubes 3.2? If so,
it's possible that this is why you have a lot of (what appear to me to
be) KDE-related broken dependencies. One option you might want to
investigate is to group install KDE. Things change rather quickly in
the Fedora/KDE world, so I'm not sure which command they're using
nowadays, but it's probably one of these (or similar):

$ sudo qubes-dom0-update @kde
$ sudo qubes-dom0-update @kde-desktop
$ sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=groupinstall "KDE Software Compilation"

Note that this will probably pull a *lot* of KDE stuff into dom0, so
be sure that you're aware of the risks before doing this.

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Re: [qubes-users] How do I get Qubes 4.0 pre-release/dev build?

[Marek Marczykowski-Górecki]

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On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 08:56:25AM -0800, bentva...@cloudctrl.nl wrote:
> Could someone maybe give some help with the error message?

The one about missing signed tags? They are in place already - simply
retry. Take a look at "Qubes 4.0 development status update" message on
qubes-devel.

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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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[qubes-users] Re: What is the best way to use i2p in Qubes? Wouldn't it be great if we had native i2p support?

[3n7r0py1]

5fxfc1+2ch7pcmy34te01rpv5qj0zj3h115fu90fwr3h7yl5u via qubes-users:
> Hi everyone!
> 
> I wanted to ask: What is the best way to use i2p in Qubes? Should I
> setup a NetVM or install i2p in a TemplateVM? 

This was my reply to the related Github issue[1] before I saw this post 
(clearly, this was the more appropriate venue for my reply). And with your main 
use case being torrenting, you might not want your traffic flowing over Tor 
(depending on what you're torrenting).

1. I2P in ProxyVM: As you found, this is challenging because you need routing 
and firewall rules to send the traffic to the right places. You can get an idea 
of how things work by following Qubes VPN guide[2] and watching Qubes SOCKS 
proxy issue[3].

2. I2P in AppVM: Easy (set it up like you would normally) but less secure 
(misbehaving apps might be able to bypass).

3. I2P in Whonix-Workstation AppVM: Slower (traffic flows through Tor, then 
I2P: user -> tor -> i2p -> internet) but secure in that any leakage goes 
through Tor. Also fully documented[4] and somewhat supported[5].


> Also since Java is not
> the most secure environment, I'm planning on using i2pd which is
> based on C++.

1. "Why do I hear about so many Java insecurities? Are other languages more 
secure?"[6]
2. I2P Devs are no slouches to intentionally use flawed language.
3. i2pd official wiki[7] claims many advantages but security is not one of 
them. (flexibility, speed, efficiency, footprint)

-
1 https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2503
2 https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/vpn/
3 https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1536#issuecomment-265714285
4 https://www.whonix.org/wiki/I2P
5 https://forums.whonix.org/search?q=i2p
6 
https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/57646/why-do-i-hear-about-so-many-java-insecurities-are-other-languages-more-secure
7 
https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/wiki/Differences-between-i2pd-and-Java-I2P-router

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[qubes-users] Re: How do I move files between qubes? Why has my computer gotten slow as molasses?

[explodingbee]

On Thursday, December 8, 2016 at 1:23:59 PM UTC-5, explod...@gmail.com wrote:
> The relevant video from the qubes-os.org website is not working.
> 
> See: https://www.qubes-os.org/video-tours/07:28  (Moving files between qubes)
> 
> Also, I just installed Qubes yesterday and my computer has been sometimes 
> getting slow as molasses.  Also, it sometimes won't finish shutting down.  
> What is going on?

Ok. Never mind the first question.  I was misunderstanding how the links to 
sections of the overview video were working.  But the second question, about my 
computer suddenly becoming slow as molasses with qubes is proper.  What is 
going on?

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[qubes-users] How do I move files between qubes? Why has my computer gotten slow as molasses?

[explodingbee]

The relevant video from the qubes-os.org website is not working.

See: https://www.qubes-os.org/video-tours/07:28  (Moving files between qubes)

Also, I just installed Qubes yesterday and my computer has been sometimes 
getting slow as molasses.  Also, it sometimes won't finish shutting down.  What 
is going on?

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Re: [qubes-users] How do I get Qubes 4.0 pre-release/dev build?

[bentvader]

Could someone maybe give some help with the error message?

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[qubes-users] Broken dependencies in plasma desktop dom0 - qubes 3.2

[Adrian Rocha]

Hi,

I updated dom0. I see that there is updated the plasma desktop, but the update 
process reports many packages with broken dependencies:

Qubes OS Repository for Dom0
   88 MB/s | 233 kB 00:00
Dependencies resolved.
==
 Package   Arch   Version   
  Repository Size
==
Upgrading:
 breeze-icon-theme noarch 
5.27.0-2.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 4.0 M
 dnsmasq   x86_64 
2.76-2.fc23 qubes-dom0-cached 297 k
 kf5-atticax86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 169 k
 kf5-baloo x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 177 k
 kf5-baloo-libsx86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 219 k
 kf5-bluez-qt  x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 196 k
 kf5-filesystemx86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached  15 k
 kf5-frameworkintegration  x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 1.5 M
 kf5-frameworkintegration-libs x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached  31 k
 kf5-kactivities-libs  x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 118 k
 kf5-kactivities-stats x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached  94 k
 kf5-karchive  x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached  99 k
 kf5-kauth x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 123 k
 kf5-kbookmarksx86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 161 k
 kf5-kcmutils  x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 302 k
 kf5-kcodecs   x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 159 k
 kf5-kcompletion   x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 117 k
 kf5-kconfig-core  x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 271 k
 kf5-kconfig-gui   x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached  48 k
 kf5-kconfigwidgetsx86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 376 k
 kf5-kcoreaddons   x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 354 k
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5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached  33 k
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5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached  67 k
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5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 262 k
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5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached  76 k
 kf5-kdelibs4support   x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 2.2 M
 kf5-kdelibs4support-libs  x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached 819 k
 kf5-kdesu x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached  90 k
 kf5-kdnssdx86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   qubes-dom0-cached  99 k
 kf5-kdoctools x86_64 
5.27.0-1.fc23   

Re: [qubes-users] What is the best way to use i2p in Qubes? Wouldntit be great if we had native i2p support?

[Chris Laprise]

On 12/08/2016 07:55 AM, 
5g0zhi+3ukwtmyaqkdinfnkhq8q589xl3kkxqmyv3sq4li...@guerrillamail.com wrote:

I think it would be best to set up i2p in a place like /rw/config or
/home, in either a proxyVM or appVM (not a netVM). Otherwise, you could
consider using a Tails HVM which would have it pre-installed.

I'm not familiar with qBittorrent. Its best to stick with client
software that is expressly written, adapted (or at least audited) for
use on i2p.

Chris

Thanks for your answer.

By ProxyVM you mean something like sys-whonix? If so how could one setup one, 
so that there can be no leaks?



When you create a VM in Qubes, proxyVM is one of the choices available; 
think of it as 'sys-firewall'.


For an example of anti-leak configuration in a proxyVM, see the VPN doc:

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/vpn/#set-up-a-proxyvm-as-a-vpn-gateway-using-iptables-and-cli-scripts

Chris

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Re: [qubes-users] What is the best way to use i2p in Qubes? Wouldn't it be great if we had native i2p support?

[Chris Laprise]

On 12/08/2016 04:14 AM, 
5fxfc1+2ch7pcmy34te01rpv5qj0zj3h115fu90fwr3h7yl5u via qubes-users wrote:

Hi everyone!

I wanted to ask: What is the best way to use i2p in Qubes? Should I setup a 
NetVM or install i2p in a TemplateVM? Also since Java is not the most secure 
environment, I'm planning on using i2pd which is based on C++.

My main use would be to use I2p for torrenting, would installing qBittorent in 
an AppVM that is connected to the i2p NetVM be sufficient?

Thanks for reading,

Best wishes,



I think it would be best to set up i2p in a place like /rw/config or 
/home, in either a proxyVM or appVM (not a netVM). Otherwise, you could 
consider using a Tails HVM which would have it pre-installed.


I'm not familiar with qBittorrent. Its best to stick with client 
software that is expressly written, adapted (or at least audited) for 
use on i2p.


Chris

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Re: [qubes-users] More user frindly desktop.

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On 2016-12-07 05:49, bob38...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm new to qubes but how can I make a more user friendly desktop 
> without installing a few things on dom0. Even the link in the
> qubes docs is to a guy who did that but they also say never run
> anything in a template or dom0.
> 
> I'm confused.
> 

It's not black and white. Whether you should install and run programs
in dom0 depends on your security model. You can install and run DE- or
WM-related programs in dom0 as long as you're willing to accept the
risk.

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Re: [qubes-users] Installing on macOS Macbook

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On 2016-12-07 06:31, Chibi wrote:
> I tried to install QubesOS in Virtualbox on my Macbook and get the 
> following error:
> 
> http://imgur.com/a/dx9oM  I can't fix it 
> somehow. Is there any way to fix it?
> 

Qubes isn't supported on VirtualBox or on Macbooks, so it's likely one
or both of those. There are threads on trying to accomplish each one
separately (I don't recall any on doing both simultaneously), but
you're probably going to have to do a lot of DIY hacking to get this
setup to work (if it's even possible).

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes takes a while to shut down (>30min!), is this normal?

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On 2016-12-07 05:59, jkitt wrote:
> On Wednesday, 7 December 2016 13:37:36 UTC, throwaw...@tutanota.com
> wrote:
>> Hello everyone! =)
>> 
>> Usually when I update dom0 and then I shutdown the computer it
>> takes quiet a while to finish, the progress bar reaches the end
>> after nearly 5 min, but then it takes 30min (yes!) for it to
>> completely shut down.
>> 
>> For info: When I click on Esc to see what happens after the
>> progress bar reaches the end I see:
>> 
>> [ OK ] Reached target Shutdown
>> 
>> I have a Sony VAIO with a C2D.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards.
> 
> This is a known bug afaik. It would seem that some of the mounted
> block devices are hanging before they can be properly unmounted.
> You can see this when you hit any of the F keys during shutdown.
> 
> I wonder if there's a ticket?
> 

Now cross-referenced with this thread:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1581

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Re: [qubes-users] How to backup an iPhone under Qubes

[Manuel Amador (Rudd-O)]

On 10/05/2016 08:23 PM, qu...@posteo.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
> how can I back up my iPhone without a separate Os?
>
> I have installed Windows 10 in an HVM and tried to add both USB
> controller devices but then the VM does not start.
>
> Backing up via Wifi does not work because the HVM is behind a NAT.
>
> I have not tried WIndows 7 because I have not access to it.
>
> So is there any solution which does not require another os or another
> computer?
>
> Thx in advance
>

Qubes network server may be able to add the ability for Windows to join
your LAN with its own IP address, thereby making it visible to your phone.

https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server

but, frankly, I have never tested it with Windows.

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[qubes-users] What is the best way to use i2p in Qubes? Wouldn't it be great if we had native i2p support?

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Hi everyone!

I wanted to ask: What is the best way to use i2p in Qubes? Should I setup a 
NetVM or install i2p in a TemplateVM? Also since Java is not the most secure 
environment, I'm planning on using i2pd which is based on C++.

My main use would be to use I2p for torrenting, would installing qBittorent in 
an AppVM that is connected to the i2p NetVM be sufficient?

Thanks for reading,

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