Re: [qubes-users] Re: Is it possible to create a fast clone/copy-on-write Qube?

[tasket]

On 26.05.2018 07:19, tas...@posteo.net wrote:

On 26.05.2018 05:56, fsharpn...@gmail.com wrote:

Ok, I discovered pvs to tell me the disk usage, ran it before and
after cloning a ~10 GB Windows VM, and verified usage was the same
before and after:

$ sudo pvs
  PV VG Fmt  Attr PSize  PFree
  /dev/sdb2  qubes_dom0 lvm2 a--  58.76g 8.71g



Actually, the answer is also there in the lvs output. The LSize shows
the upper limit for the volume's size, and the Data% shows how much of
that is used.

When you clone a VM (lets say an appVM), you'll notice another private
volume is created and shows the same figures as the volume it
originates from. But looking at pool00 (the overall container for our
VM volumes), the Data% barely changes if at all.




$ qvm-clone windows windows2
windows2: Cloning private volume
windows2: Cloning root volume

$ sudo pvs
  PV VG Fmt  Attr PSize  PFree
  /dev/sdb2  qubes_dom0 lvm2 a--  58.76g 8.71g

Qubes manager gives the disk of the clone VM as 0 before I run it:

https://imgur.com/NGAjTxg

Though afterward it gets the same disk size as the original:

https://imgur.com/hCGUVqs

So again I assume that's the virtual space allocated to the clone
rather than the actual space.


Yes.

The Linux storage options won't show a volume that grows from nothing
and has a size equal to the delta from the parent volume. This is
because the Thin LVM and Btrfs objects are not really hierarchical,
and this can be a good thing because it usually means fewer demands on
you attention... there is less 'care and feeding' necessary with the
Linux options. But you do have to keep an eye on your overall free
space, of course.

If you really need to know the delta size between two related volumes,
there may be a utility out there that scans the volume metadata and
shows you. My guess is you would most likely find it for Btrfs, and it
would be described as a tool related to deduplication (or 'dedup').

And that brings me to another point: On Btrfs if you have two related
files (.img volumes) but suspect they have diverged too much over
time, you can tell Btrfs to perform deduplication to find new
commonalities and reduce the overall space used.

Chris


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[qubes-users] Re: Is it possible to create a fast clone/copy-on-write Qube?

[fsharpn00b]

Ok, I discovered pvs to tell me the disk usage, ran it before and after cloning 
a ~10 GB Windows VM, and verified usage was the same before and after:

$ sudo pvs
  PV VG Fmt  Attr PSize  PFree
  /dev/sdb2  qubes_dom0 lvm2 a--  58.76g 8.71g

$ qvm-clone windows windows2
windows2: Cloning private volume
windows2: Cloning root volume

$ sudo pvs
  PV VG Fmt  Attr PSize  PFree
  /dev/sdb2  qubes_dom0 lvm2 a--  58.76g 8.71g

Qubes manager gives the disk of the clone VM as 0 before I run it:

https://imgur.com/NGAjTxg

Though afterward it gets the same disk size as the original:

https://imgur.com/hCGUVqs

So again I assume that's the virtual space allocated to the clone rather than 
the actual space.

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[qubes-users] Re: 4K Scaling is working properly at Qubes 4.0 ?

[Sergio Matta]

Em sexta-feira, 25 de maio de 2018 19:45:25 UTC-3, loret  escreveu:
> On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 11:26:09 PM UTC+2, Sergio Matta wrote:
> > Em sexta-feira, 25 de maio de 2018 13:51:59 UTC-3, konner  escreveu:
> > > -does qubes scale properly now once you select 4k scaling?
> > > including start menu , app icons and gedit,...?
> > > 3.2 has issues with this
> > 
> > My Qubes 4.0, cpu AM3 X6, graphics Rx560 is connected to a Sony 4k tv and 
> > working fine :-) 
> > Is that what you want to know?
> 
> 
> 
> Im using a 15 inch screen, on 3.2 qubes did and was not able to scale menu 
> icons and other smaller objects.
> some objects were scaled but many not,
> 
> does 4.0 scale EVERYTHING , all icons... ?

Using high resolution tv (4k=3840x2160 pixels) and everything is fine, but fhd 
tv (1920x1080) needs to adjust dpi settings in each vm (gnome-tweak-tool) you 
use.

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[qubes-users] Re: 4K Scaling is working properly at Qubes 4.0 ?

[loret]

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 11:26:09 PM UTC+2, Sergio Matta wrote:
> Em sexta-feira, 25 de maio de 2018 13:51:59 UTC-3, konner  escreveu:
> > -does qubes scale properly now once you select 4k scaling?
> > including start menu , app icons and gedit,...?
> > 3.2 has issues with this
> 
> My Qubes 4.0, cpu AM3 X6, graphics Rx560 is connected to a Sony 4k tv and 
> working fine :-) 
> Is that what you want to know?



Im using a 15 inch screen, on 3.2 qubes did and was not able to scale menu 
icons and other smaller objects.
some objects were scaled but many not,

does 4.0 scale EVERYTHING , all icons... ?

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[qubes-users] Re: 4K Scaling is working properly at Qubes 4.0 ?

[Sergio Matta]

Em sexta-feira, 25 de maio de 2018 13:51:59 UTC-3, konner  escreveu:
> -does qubes scale properly now once you select 4k scaling?
> including start menu , app icons and gedit,...?
> 3.2 has issues with this

My Qubes 4.0, cpu AM3 X6, graphics Rx560 is connected to a Sony 4k tv and 
working fine :-) 
Is that what you want to know?

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[qubes-users] 4K Scaling is working properly at Qubes 4.0 ?

[konner]

-does qubes scale properly now once you select 4k scaling?
including start menu , app icons and gedit,...?
3.2 has issues with this

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Re: [SPAM] Re: [qubes-users] Curl error (6) by updating dom0

['awokd' via qubes-users]

On Fri, May 25, 2018 12:31 pm, evo wrote:

>
> yes, correct. i added there "s" by http but then gor another error

Please copy and paste the error messages you are getting. See
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/copy-from-dom0/#copypaste-from-dom0.


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Re: [qubes-users] Teamviewer 13 won't start (QubesOS 3.2)

[799]

Hello,

Others call me jean  schrieb am Fr., 25. Mai 2018,
14:32:

> [...]
> Since Fedora 26 and Teamviewer 13 I can't open teamviewer anymore:
>
> [user@fedora-28-dvm ~]$ teamviewer
>
> Init...
> CheckCPU: SSE2 support: yes
> Checking setup...
> Launching TeamViewer ...
> Launching TeamViewer GUI ...
> [user@fedora-28-dvm ~]$
>
> -> no GUI
>
> This issue sounds like the same problem, but I don't know how I can get
> the solution:
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3664


What display resolution are you running and what about other applications
in the same AppVM?

[799]

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Re: [qubes-users] pulseaudio/vchan errors

[donoban]

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On 05/25/18 13:19, donoban wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I noticed a lot of messages like this:
> 
> May 25 13:13:40 XXX pulseaudio[716]: write_to_vchan: all=768000 
> waited=163 nonwaited=767837 full=0 May 25 13:14:55 XXX
> pulseaudio[716]: write_to_vchan: all=776000 waited=163
> nonwaited=775837 full=0 May 25 13:16:10 XXX pulseaudio[716]:
> write_to_vchan: all=784000 waited=167 nonwaited=783833 full=0 May
> 25 13:17:25 XXX pulseaudio[716]: write_to_vchan: all=792000 
> waited=169 nonwaited=791831 full=0
> 
> They appear in a lot of VM's logs even in Fedora template (which I 
> think that never had played any sound).
> 
> Does anybody know something about them?
> 

Well, it seems it is a simply debug info:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-gui-agent-linux/blob/4427218dc382c66a98
e22d5e67bdef5a87a5b3ba/pulse/module-vchan-sink.c#L257

Playing an internet radio program I get near 1 per second.
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[qubes-users] HP Sure Start

[Zbigniew Łukasiak]

Is this compatible with Qubes? http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c05163901


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[qubes-users] Active device on Bus block startup

[Deviant]

Good Day

I am fairly new to Qubes OS and Linux in general. I seem to have an issue when 
I need to start sys-net as I get some BUS that is shared between Ethernet and 
some Card Reader.

Anyways, I can isolate the issue by performing the command below and then start 
sys-net. My question is, what can I do to perform this command on bootup. I 
understand I need to create some file just not sure how exactly.

echo -n "1" > /sys/bus/pci/devices/:05:00.0/remove

Please advise
Thanks in Advance

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[qubes-users] Teamviewer 13 won't start (QubesOS 3.2)

[Others call me jean]

Hi

Since Fedora 26 and Teamviewer 13 I can't open teamviewer anymore:

[user@fedora-28-dvm ~]$ teamviewer

Init...
CheckCPU: SSE2 support: yes
Checking setup...
Launching TeamViewer ...
Launching TeamViewer GUI ...
[user@fedora-28-dvm ~]$

-> no GUI

This issue sounds like the same problem, but I don't know how I can get
the solution:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3664

Thanks for help

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Re: [SPAM] Re: [qubes-users] Curl error (6) by updating dom0

[evo]

On 05/24/18 19:30, awokd wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2018 4:24 pm, evo wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 05/24/18 14:33, awokd wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> See the instructions at the top of
>>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/installation-guide/.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> thanks!
>> i changed the 4 links to https.
>>
>> ...but now i get curl error (3) on several links
>> "ULR using bad/illegal format or missing URL for ..."
>> und am Ende "... http' contains bad letter"
> 
> You edited /etc/yum.repos.d/qubes-dom0.repo, right? And made the line
> under [qubes-dom0-current] look something like:
> 
> baseurl = https://yum.qubes-os.org/r$releasever/current/dom0/fc25
> 
> 

yes, correct.
i added there "s" by http
but then gor another error

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Deleting Disposable VMs / Qubes Docs / Warning

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On 05/25/18 13:40, brendan.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> General question to the list: would opening an "Issue" on github be
> the appropriate way to get this documentation error addressed
> quickly?
> 
> Thanks, Brendan
> 

No needed, I will fix it.
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[qubes-users] Re: Deleting Disposable VMs / Qubes Docs / Warning

[brendan . hoar]

On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 6:35:42 PM UTC-4, pon...@keemail.me wrote:
> Just a little warning:
> 
> The typing error
> 
> [user@dom0 ~]$ QUBES[instead of qvm]-prefs  default_disp ""
> 
> in the section »Deleting Disposable VM« 
> on https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/dispvm-customization
> 
> can cost you hours of research –
> if you are as blind and stupid as me. 

General question to the list: would opening an "Issue" on github be the 
appropriate way to get this documentation error addressed quickly?

Thanks,
Brendan

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[qubes-users] pulseaudio/vchan errors

[donoban]

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Hi

I noticed a lot of messages like this:

May 25 13:13:40 XXX pulseaudio[716]: write_to_vchan: all=768000
waited=163 nonwaited=767837 full=0
May 25 13:14:55 XXX pulseaudio[716]: write_to_vchan: all=776000
waited=163 nonwaited=775837 full=0
May 25 13:16:10 XXX pulseaudio[716]: write_to_vchan: all=784000
waited=167 nonwaited=783833 full=0
May 25 13:17:25 XXX pulseaudio[716]: write_to_vchan: all=792000
waited=169 nonwaited=791831 full=0

They appear in a lot of VM's logs even in Fedora template (which I
think that never had played any sound).

Does anybody know something about them?
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[qubes-users] Re: [qubes-devel] Fedora 26 and Debian 8 approaching EOL

[Holger Levsen]

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 07:29:18PM -0500, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> Thank you for the correction. I've updated the announcement on the
> website to clarify this:
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-posts/commit/3db9a35e297b3defa0863f8ab02ebd56e8384053

thank you, looks good!


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[qubes-users] No .gnupg/gpg.conf created in vault-safe VM

[qubes-fan]

Hi, this is more precise continuation of my previous post about my issue with 
.gnupg/gpg.conf. I am trying to modify the gpg.conf in my vault-safe VM, but 
the gpg.conf isnt there. See the comparison of work VM and vault VM gnupg:

# Here I can see the gpg.conf and I can modify it. See below:
user@work:~/.gnupg$ ls
crls.d    gpg.conf   pubring.kbx   trustdb.gpg
dirmngr.conf  gpg.conf.save  pubring.kbx~
dirmngr.conf.gpgconf.bak  openpgp-revocs.d   sshcontrol
gpg-agent-info-host   private-keys-v1.d  tofu.db

# Here I cant see the gpg.conf and have no idea where the gpg knows my 
preferences. 
# It creates by default the SHA256 bit keys for example. See below: 
user@vault-safe:~/.gnupg$ ls
openpgp-revocs.d   pubring.kbx   sshcontrol  trustdb.gpg
private-keys-v1.d  pubring.kbx~  tofu.db

Where are the differences coming from and how to solve it?  
Thank you?

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