Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] crontab backups?

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Stumpy:

Thank you for the response. It actually ended up that cron did not like 
executing a script, I just put the exact same line from the script 
directly into cron.


You can also put (executable) scripts directly in /etc/cron.daily or 
.weekly and they should run without having to mess with crontab.


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Re: [qubes-users] custom sys-usb end up with an error

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lik...@gmx.de:

Hi!

I've built my sys-usb now on a fedora32 template and a dvm setup 
(according to this manual: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/disposablevm-customization/). Every 
usb-device works fine except the built-in camera. The camera is being 
detected during sys-usb-dvm startup, but when I try to connect it to 
another AppVM, I receive the message:


"Attaching device MyDevice to AppVm failed. Error: QubesException - 
Device attach failed: No device info received, connection failed, check 
backend side for details."


When I switch back my usb controller to the original sys-usb, I can use 
my camera by attaching it to AppVMs.


1. What is meant by backend? Is this the sys-usb or the AppVM I'm trying 
the camera attach to? Which log should I look at?

2. Any ideas how to resolve that issue or how to investigate?

Best, P

Was your original sys-usb also based on fed32, and can you attach other 
usb devices to AppVMs or do they all fail the same way? If not, it could 
be a difference in drivers between fed32 and what you were using 
previously. Also, double-check you have both qubes-usb-proxy and 
qubes-input-proxy-sender installed in your template.


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Re: [qubes-users] Q: Kernel being used in VM

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David Hobach:

On 12/21/20 1:45 PM, Mike Keehan wrote:

On 12/21/20 12:23 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote:

Hi!

I wonder: What sense is in updating the kernel in a VM (e.g. 
fedora-32) when that kernel isn't used when booting the VM?




It's only for standalone VMs IIRC.
Uninstalling them shouldn't hurt if you don't use any standalone VM.


The VM's package manager can be told not to update specified packages,
if that is what you want.


Like David suggests, leaving them installed can help if you ever want to 
convert/clone the template to a standalone.


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Re: [qubes-users] new xen kernel 5.xx

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haaber:

I have still instabilities with the xen kernels 5.x (sudden system
freeze). I also have a small /boot and hold only the last 3 kernels.
They are right now:

vmlinuz-4.19.155-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64
vmlinuz-5.4.78-1.qubes.x86_64
vmlinuz-5.4.83-1.qubes.x86_64

I would like to mark the (for me very stable) kernel 4.19.155 as "do not
erase while updating" and remove the (for me) useless kernel
vmlinuz-5.4.78-1.qubes.x86_64. How can I do that, please?  I fear to
make a mess when just "playing around". I also want to keep 5.x kernels
for appVM's (they work well).   Thank you!

I think I was able to keep an older version around before by (very 
carefully) uninstalling the middle version from dom0, as it keeps 3 
copies by default. I believe I used dnf and specified the exact version 
to remove.


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Re: [qubes-users] Installing Rofi on dom0 via contributed packages?

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Stumpy:
> In fed32min I am getting this:
>
> bash-5.0# sudo dnf install qubes-repo-contrib && sudo dnf update && sudo


> No match for argument: qubes-tunnel
> Error: Unable to find a match: qubes-tunnel
> bash-5.0# sudo dnf install tunnel
> Last metadata expiration check: 0:01:28 ago on Sat Dec 19 08:15:23 2020.
> No match for argument: tunnel
> Error: Unable to find a match: tunnel

Sometimes it helps to restart the VM that is handling updates (often 
sys-whonix or sys-firewall) to force it to refresh the metadata if it's 
not finding a recently published package. Can also reboot Qubes to 
accomplish the same.


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Re: [qubes-users] LVM thinpool issue: no volume groups found lvs -av

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Haisam Khalil:

Ok so here’s the story. Tlaurion was helpful enough over the past few days
to get me here, but now I’m stuck.

Issue: It started with an lvm thinpool issue I thought I solved by deleting
excess appVMs and fstrim’ing everything, including dom0. I updated dom0 one
day, did the usual dance with signing checksums, etc. I turned off power to
the laptop while booting up again, because I forgot to actually verify my
totp at the HEADS menu instead of just letting it load up. I reboot hoping
to just load up like I usually. All of a sudden, I’m in the dracut
emergency shell for the first time.

 From there we were in trouble. We tried and failed to successfully repair
qubes_dom0/pool00 following some instructions we sorted.

Today when I run a lvs -av, no volume groups are found.

I will be able to reply to this post directly and provide screenshots of
everything done prior to this. But it’s this new issue that seems to be a
show stopper for me. Can I salvage this? Or do I just reinstall and call it
lost?

Let me know and thank you.

Did you do a "vgchange -ay" to activate whatever's available? Does pvs 
list any?


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: qvm-run multimedia nautilus nothing happens

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Franz:

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 12:24 PM Franz <169...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hello,
qvm-run multimedia nautilus  and  nothing happens, no error, nothing.

If I try with firefox it is the same and multimedia  is up and running,
with a green mark point.

Closing multimedia vm last time had to kill it.

It is a standard VM depending on a template that works with other VMs.



No, checking again if I put multimedia dependent from another template
works, so the problem is the template.

Last thing I did with the template was install a custom disposable VM
connected with the template. I did not know that this may end damaging the
template.

Disposable VM settings shouldn't affect the template. What happens if 
you try to run nautilus from a terminal session to "multimedia"? If it 
doesn't start, that's the issue.


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Re: [qubes-users] Help for Qubes updater problem with Fedora-32?

[Viktor Ransmayr]

vic...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 20. Dezember 2020 um 18:08:45 UTC+1:

> On Sat, 2020-12-19 at 07:15 -0800, Viktor Ransmayr wrote: 
> > vic...@gmail.com schrieb am Samstag, 19. Dezember 2020 um 14:26:10 
> > UTC+1: 
> > > On Sat, 2020-12-19 at 02:01 -0800, Viktor Ransmayr wrote: 
> > > > Since this morning Qubes Updater does not succeed updating the 
> > > > 'fedora-32' template multiple times, while it did work for 
> > > 'whonix- 
> > > > gw-15' w/o any issues ... 
> > > > 
> > > > The log, that is returned, does not provide me enough information 
> > > to 
> > > > decide what to do next - or - how to resolve this issue: 
> > > 
> > > Try running an upgrade from Qubes Manager, or start a terminal in 
> > > that template and run dnf upgrade, see what that tells you. 
> > 
> > Performing the upgrade via Qubes Manager did resolve the issue 
> > immediately. - Thanks a lot for your help! 
> > 
> > Out of curiosity: Why are the actions 'triggered / used' by Qubes 
> > Manager (QM) and Qubes Updater (QU) different? 
>
> Qubes Manager, as far as I know, launches a terminal, in which it 
> launches system tools, be it apt or dnf or something else. How is it 
> determined which one to use, I wasn't yet able to find. 
> Qubes Updater uses qubesctl, which under the hood uses salt, with it's 
> tools and libraries. 
>

@viq: Thanks a lot for this info!

Re-reading the available documentation I now also found the FAQ entry [1], 
where this procedure / workaround is described ...

Turning this into something positive: I'm confident, that I'll remember 
what to do, the next time a similar situation occurs ;-)

With kind regards,

Viktor

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Re: [qubes-users] /dev/dri/card0: No such file or Directory

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Archie J:

Hi,
When checking my /var/log/Xorg.0.log
I am getting an error for "/dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory" which
is stopping me from connecting my external monitor. Does anyone have any
ideas how I can rectify this?


If you have the monitor connected and powered on before booting the 
computer, not sure what else I'd try. Installing kernel-latest in dom0 
has some possibility of breaking other things, but might be worth a try.



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Re: [qubes-users] How to control Bluetooth connections in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

[unman]

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 07:45:29AM -0800, ME wrote:
> What is "native tools" ?
> 
> mandag den 21. december 2020 kl. 16.38.02 UTC+1 skrev unman:
> 
> > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 06:16:21AM -0800, ME wrote:
> > > How to control Bluetooth connections in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?
> > > 
> >
> > Try to attach bluetooth controller to a qube, and use native tools in that
> > qube.
> >

The tools provided by the OS or distro you are using in that qube

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Re: [qubes-users] How to control Bluetooth connections in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

[ME]

What is "native tools" ?

mandag den 21. december 2020 kl. 16.38.02 UTC+1 skrev unman:

> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 06:16:21AM -0800, ME wrote:
> > How to control Bluetooth connections in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?
> > 
>
> Try to attach bluetooth controller to a qube, and use native tools in that
> qube.
>

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Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] crontab backups?

[haaber]

>
> Thank you for the response. It actually ended up that cron did not like
> executing a script, I just put the exact same line from the script
> directly into cron.cron is not anti-script as such. I experienced
problems using pipes (I guess a pipe spawns off a new thread, that does
not necessarily run under the same user)
> Now I just need to understand how to setup things to delete backups
> older than X

using "find". to find *files* "f" (in contrast with "d") older than 30
days that are called backup*.luks, it would be

  find   /path  -type f  -iname   backup\*.luks   -mtime +30   -print

the word "-print"   displays them.

Rem1: The first "*" must be backslashed in the find command, you don't
  want bash to expand it!

Rem2: careful with auto-delete (don't complain :)
  you replace -print by -delete



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Re: [qubes-users] How to control Bluetooth connections in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

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On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 06:16:21AM -0800, ME wrote:
> How to control Bluetooth connections in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?
> 

Try to attach bluetooth controller to a qube, and use native tools in that
qube.

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[qubes-users] How to control Bluetooth connections in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

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How to control Bluetooth connections in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?

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Re: [qubes-users] Why isn't it possible to manually control if the pc should enable networking and wi-fy at login or not ?

[unman]

On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 09:25:31AM +0100, Morten Eyrich wrote:
> Yes, I could do as you suggest unman.
> 
> But the pc's wi-fy will still be turned on and thereby it will be able to
> connect to it.
> 
> So I would like to change this so that every time the pc is turned on, I
> will have to turn my wi-fy and network connection on.
> 
> My question is then: How can I do that ?
> 
> Den man. 21. dec. 2020 kl. 04.00 skrev unman :
> 
> > On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 04:21:21PM +0100, Morten Eyrich wrote:
> > > How do I edit network connections in sys-net to remove "automatically
> > > connect" ?
> > >
> > > Den s??n. 20. dec. 2020 kl. 14.38 skrev unman <
> > un...@thirdeyesecurity.org>:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 01:59:41AM -0800, ME wrote:
> > > > > Why isn't it possible to manually control if the pc should enable
> > > > > networking and wi-fy at login or not ?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is.
> > > > You can edit network connections in sys-net to remove "automatically
> > > > connect".
> > > > Or disable autostart for all qubes, disable the qubes time service,
> > > > disable automatic checking for updates. Then your machine will stay
> > > > offline until you choose to open a network connection.
> > > >
> >
> > Right click on the Network Manager Icon - select "Edit Connections".
> > Select the connection - click on the "Gear" icon.
> > In the "Editing" window, go to the General Tab, and deselect "Connect
> > Automatically"
> >
> > Generally, this is an option that you set (often by omission) when you
> > make a new connection.
> >
> 

Lenovo's have a WiFi switch - if your machine doesnt have one, you could
fit one.
If the WiFi is connected to sys-net it will not be "turned on" unless
you start sys-net. You can test this by scanning your system with
sys-net shutdown.

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[qubes-users] custom sys-usb end up with an error

[liked2]

Hi!

I've built my sys-usb now on a fedora32 template and a dvm setup (according to 
this manual: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/disposablevm-customization/). Every 
usb-device works fine except the built-in camera. The camera is being detected 
during sys-usb-dvm startup, but when I try to connect it to another AppVM, I 
receive the message:

"Attaching device MyDevice to AppVm failed. Error: QubesException - Device attach 
failed: No device info received, connection failed, check backend side for details."

When I switch back my usb controller to the original sys-usb, I can use my 
camera by attaching it to AppVMs.

1. What is meant by backend? Is this the sys-usb or the AppVM I'm trying the 
camera attach to? Which log should I look at?
2. Any ideas how to resolve that issue or how to investigate?

Best, P

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Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] crontab backups?

[Stumpy]

On 12/20/20 6:54 PM, Ulrich Windl wrote:

On 12/17/20 2:32 PM, Stumpy wrote:
I havent played with crontab in forever, and I cant code at all, but I 
really wanted to try to automate my backups a wee bit.


I made a basic script (qubackup) in the ~/ dom0 directory:
/home/bob/qvm-backup --yes --verbose --compress --passphrase-file 
~/PASSPHRASE_FILE.txt /run/media/bob/drobo/backups/ anon-whonix 
centos-7-minimal email chat work personal


and set crontab to run it every:
0 1 * * * /home/bob/qbackup

but it did not seem to work. I am able to run the script and the 
backup will run but when i try to do it via cron then nada?


Checked the syslog? Did you use "crontab -e" to setup the crontab?



The crond seems to be running and crontab -l shows the schedule I 
pasted above, Is there a reason this shouldn't work?






Thank you for the response. It actually ended up that cron did not like 
executing a script, I just put the exact same line from the script 
directly into cron.


Now I just need to understand how to setup things to delete backups 
older than X


Cheers

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Re: [qubes-users] Q: Kernel being used in VM

[David Hobach]

On 12/21/20 1:45 PM, Mike Keehan wrote:

On 12/21/20 12:23 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote:

Hi!

I wonder: What sense is in updating the kernel in a VM (e.g. fedora-32) when 
that kernel isn't used when booting the VM?



It's only for standalone VMs IIRC.
Uninstalling them shouldn't hurt if you don't use any standalone VM.


The VM's package manager can be told not to update specified packages,
if that is what you want.


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Re: [qubes-users] Q: Kernel being used in VM

[Mike Keehan]

On 12/21/20 12:23 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote:

Hi!

I wonder: What sense is in updating the kernel in a VM (e.g. fedora-32) 
when that kernel isn't used when booting the VM?




The VM's package manager can be told not to update specified packages,
if that is what you want.

Mike.

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Re: [EXT] Re: [qubes-users] Is it possible for an intruder to see the passwords that is being sent through a compromised router/networkconnection ?

[haaber]

On 12/21/20 1:08 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote:

On 12/20/20 4:17 PM, Morten Eyrich wrote:

Okay so if I have been using a https connection, then it's no
problem... ?


If they use a wrong certificate for a MITM attack they might decode your
connection... It means nobody between you and the "next endpoint" can
read your password, but how to ensure what the "next endpoint" really is?


Ulrich is right. First, look at the "certificate story". These are meant
ensuring that you can trust your endpoint. Certificates are
pre-installed in your browser, and one should check (and rarely does)
which ones to trust (and how much). Invented examples: If they are owned
by chinese or russian  telecom company, do you trust it? State agencies
could intervene. Or british telecom (5eyes??). The actually used
hierarchical trust model might be a failure by design.

And then there are exploits. Example: some years ago Moxi Marlinspike
found the funny zero-byte error due to string handling: He proved that
you could buy for example the domain "com",0,"mand.org" and have the
trusted instances sign your subdomain  google.com",0",mand.org" which
any firefox (at least) did recognise as valid certificate for google.com
since they considered the 0 byte as "end of string". You are not safe
from such type of exploits.

Conclusion as usual: if your life depends on it, do not trust https.



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Re: [qubes-users] Why isn't it possible to manually control if the pc should enable networking and wi-fy at login or not ?

[Morten Eyrich]

Yes, I could do as you suggest unman.

But the pc's wi-fy will still be turned on and thereby it will be able to
connect to it.

So I would like to change this so that every time the pc is turned on, I
will have to turn my wi-fy and network connection on.

My question is then: How can I do that ?

Den man. 21. dec. 2020 kl. 04.00 skrev unman :

> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 04:21:21PM +0100, Morten Eyrich wrote:
> > How do I edit network connections in sys-net to remove "automatically
> > connect" ?
> >
> > Den s??n. 20. dec. 2020 kl. 14.38 skrev unman <
> un...@thirdeyesecurity.org>:
> >
> > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 01:59:41AM -0800, ME wrote:
> > > > Why isn't it possible to manually control if the pc should enable
> > > > networking and wi-fy at login or not ?
> > > >
> > >
> > > It is.
> > > You can edit network connections in sys-net to remove "automatically
> > > connect".
> > > Or disable autostart for all qubes, disable the qubes time service,
> > > disable automatic checking for updates. Then your machine will stay
> > > offline until you choose to open a network connection.
> > >
>
> Right click on the Network Manager Icon - select "Edit Connections".
> Select the connection - click on the "Gear" icon.
> In the "Editing" window, go to the General Tab, and deselect "Connect
> Automatically"
>
> Generally, this is an option that you set (often by omission) when you
> make a new connection.
>

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Re: [EXT] [qubes-users] How do you stream and whatch mp4-video's in your Firefox Browser ?

[Morten Eyrich]

Browser: Mozilla Firefox.

I found out: Just use the Firefox browser in the Debian template. Then it's
no problem.

Den man. 21. dec. 2020 kl. 01.07 skrev Ulrich Windl <
ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de>:

> On 12/20/20 11:43 AM, ME wrote:
> > How do you stream and whatch mp4-video's in your Firefox Browser ?
>
> "your" firefox browser? What's that?
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