[qubes-users] Re: Install on an up to date Macbook
Hi! Am Dienstag, 30. Juli 2019 15:57:59 UTC+2 schrieb Daniil Travnikov: > > Hi, > > How it's going? Are you happy with Qubes on Macbook? > > No, I have not tried further, as I did not have the time. Perhaps Apple is doing some nasty things to deny the installation of foreign OSs on their hardware. I wanted to try the new release, if there is a change, but not had the time for this. I think I can manage that on the weekend. At the moment I can not recommend a Macbook (modern model) for QubesOS in any way. Matthias > > On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 2:01:37 PM UTC+3, Matthias Brumm wrote: >> >> Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2019 12:59:10 UTC+2 schrieb Daniil Travnikov: >> > On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 9:53:42 AM UTC+3, Matthias Brumm wrote: >> > > > >> > > I have a booted system now, but without working keyboard, trackpad >> (using external keyboard+mouse), wifi (crashing when attaching to sys-net). >> Perhaps Apple is doing some nasty things to lock up their Macbook. >> > > >> > > Matthias >> > >> > >> > Did you try the last Kernel version from Qubes testing repository? >> >> No, I could try that I suppose, when I am getting some kind of network >> running. >> >> Matthias >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ff13aaa7-132b-46b3-948e-4a21e5fc89af%40googlegroups.com.
[qubes-users] Re: Install on an up to date Macbook
Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2019 12:59:10 UTC+2 schrieb Daniil Travnikov: > On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 9:53:42 AM UTC+3, Matthias Brumm wrote: > > > > > I have a booted system now, but without working keyboard, trackpad (using > > external keyboard+mouse), wifi (crashing when attaching to sys-net). > > Perhaps Apple is doing some nasty things to lock up their Macbook. > > > > Matthias > > > Did you try the last Kernel version from Qubes testing repository? No, I could try that I suppose, when I am getting some kind of network running. Matthias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/443fc6ef-c99d-41f7-a4b4-6f61dd78ec4a%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Install on an up to date Macbook
Am Dienstag, 2. Juli 2019 13:24:17 UTC+2 schrieb Matthias Brumm: > Am Samstag, 29. Juni 2019 01:25:07 UTC+2 schrieb Daniil Travnikov: > > Do not leave this thread after your any steps (successful or not) because I > > want to buy Macbook 12-inch for Qubes OS in near future. And I will keep my > > eyes on this thread. Thank you in advance. > > At the moment the systems boots up and presents me a black screen with > mouse-cursor and restarts a short while after that. > I have a booted system now, but without working keyboard, trackpad (using external keyboard+mouse), wifi (crashing when attaching to sys-net). Perhaps Apple is doing some nasty things to lock up their Macbook. Matthias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8e7a3adc-92f3-458c-92d9-674fe851b82d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Disabling qubes-netvm
Am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2019 22:31:16 UTC+2 schrieb awokd: > That's too bad; Broadcom wifi adapters are notorious for Linux > unfriendliness. What's the model #? It's possible someone else figured > out how to get it working, or I suppose it's possible there's no fix. > I was going to suggest using Ethernet, but then I remembered you said "a > modern Macbook"... Yes. Actualy I just hope to get compiz working as I am dependant onb a good working screen zoom as on OSX. Then I am sure to use it as a daily driver, when getting some Lenovo gear. Matthias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/9ce09ca2-5c85-4a45-a0b3-dda7b2549f21%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Disabling qubes-netvm
Am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2019 09:17:02 UTC+2 schrieb Matthias Brumm: > That was a very good idea. After editing the xml file I got to the stage 2 > and I think Qubes had to do some last steps. Then Qubes OS booted. When I > have the time, I can now look into enabling network etc. > > When I am done, I try to make a short section for the macbook troubleshooting > information. I don't know, if Qubes is possible on a modern Macbook. I have tried several ways to attach the Broadcom wifi to sys-net, but either it is not shown in the machine or the system freezes. And this struggles before trying to get the keyboard and touchpad running (still using USB keyboard and mouse. Apple seems to do a great work in locking their system up. Perhaps I can get a new laptop for my work in some months or so. Matthias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d6fa8bba-ce93-4291-a63b-49c8095f4ee7%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Disabling qubes-netvm
Am Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2019 00:31:16 UTC+2 schrieb awokd: > Matthias Brumm: > > Am Dienstag, 2. Juli 2019 16:14:52 UTC+2 schrieb awokd: > >> Look for the section of XML that contains >> name="name">sys-net. > >> > > Thank you for your help. I disabled all three autostart vms to hopefully > > get the system to start, but no luck. I think I surrender for now to get > > this installed on a Macbook. > > Didn't think of it earlier, but you could also remove the devices > assigned to sys-net in that same section of XML. Look for lines like > and delete them. If > that still doesn't let you boot Qubes, it's some other issue besides > sys-net. > That was a very good idea. After editing the xml file I got to the stage 2 and I think Qubes had to do some last steps. Then Qubes OS booted. When I have the time, I can now look into enabling network etc. When I am done, I try to make a short section for the macbook troubleshooting information. Matthias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/75c53a31-25fd-4b40-b876-a9ba689af96f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Disabling qubes-netvm
Am Dienstag, 2. Juli 2019 16:14:52 UTC+2 schrieb awokd: > Look for the section of XML that contains name="name">sys-net. > Thank you for your help. I disabled all three autostart vms to hopefully get the system to start, but no luck. I think I surrender for now to get this installed on a Macbook. > Another way to work around sys-net install issues like that is to > temporarily disable network devices in UEFI config, or physically remove. This is my workplace, so these options are not possible. Matthias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d5ede1e5-f3d6-40fa-a3c2-3db58950ff68%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Disabling qubes-netvm
Am Dienstag, 2. Juli 2019 13:49:31 UTC+2 schrieb awokd: > Matthias Brumm: > > Am Dienstag, 2. Juli 2019 01:52:28 UTC+2 schrieb awokd: > >> The Qubes installer is a modified version of Fedora's, so often the same > >> procedures/documentation will apply. Check out > >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/13/html/Installation_Guide/s1-rescuemode-boot.html. > >> I can't verify, because UEFI is too broken on my systems. > > > > OK, I have managed to get to the rescue system, but there seems not to be a > > qubes-netvm to disable or the disabling of machines has changed. > > > > The system boots up, shows a black screen with mouse cursor and is > > rebooting a short while after. > > Only way I know to do it is the same as 3.2- make a backup copy > somewhere of /var/lib/qubes/qubes.xml and edit it. If sys-net is > crashing, set its autostart to no. It might still attempt to start due > to dependencies, but you can then also remove attached devices. Could you please show me the relevant part? I do not find this. I am beginning to suspect, that this VM was not created, but then there has to be some other reason of the crash. Matthias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b725199e-cafa-4273-a27f-7d686f6f3f08%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Install on an up to date Macbook
Am Samstag, 29. Juni 2019 01:25:07 UTC+2 schrieb Daniil Travnikov: > Do not leave this thread after your any steps (successful or not) because I > want to buy Macbook 12-inch for Qubes OS in near future. And I will keep my > eyes on this thread. Thank you in advance. I have managed to install QubesOS with crashing on creating the net-vm. I have managed to get to the rescue system (boot from stick and starting anaconda --recue manual), but I was unable to disable the netvm from starting. At the moment the systems boots up and presents me a black screen with mouse-cursor and restarts a short while after that. Matthias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e1913dcf-603f-4e82-a31d-403e51bc49c8%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Disabling qubes-netvm
Am Dienstag, 2. Juli 2019 01:52:28 UTC+2 schrieb awokd: > The Qubes installer is a modified version of Fedora's, so often the same > procedures/documentation will apply. Check out > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/13/html/Installation_Guide/s1-rescuemode-boot.html. > > I can't verify, because UEFI is too broken on my systems. OK, I have managed to get to the rescue system, but there seems not to be a qubes-netvm to disable or the disabling of machines has changed. The system boots up, shows a black screen with mouse cursor and is rebooting a short while after. Matthias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/cb45a086-7570-4123-b4f5-52256142dc27%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Disabling qubes-netvm
Am Sonntag, 30. Juni 2019 11:15:52 UTC+2 schrieb Matthias Brumm: > I try to get QubesOS running on a MacBook Pro. I am referring to this > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/macbook-troubleshooting/#macbook-pro-retina-15-inch-mid-2015-macbookpro-115 > number 7. I was able to start the rescue system with this: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/uefi-troubleshooting/#accessing-installer-rescue-mode-on-uefi But there is a tmux session with some panes. How to use the rescue system? How to mount the partition with Qubes OS on it? Matthias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/41a0a0c0-5e70-4020-94ce-b5e96959fa4f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Install on an up to date Macbook
Hi! The installation or of USB stick is working out of the box with the option key The parameters for xen will work with a bootloader in my case refind. But as I said, I am stuck with a non working system, presumably because of the net-vm. Matthias Am 29. Juni 2019 18:03:54 MESZ schrieb Daniil Travnikov : >On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 11:30:20 AM UTC+3, Matthias Brumm wrote: >> If you are going to buy a new laptop for the purpose of running >QubesOS or Linux I would strongly refrain from buying a Macbook due to >the struggles. My Macbook is rather new so I will not be able to get a >new one at my work notebook for the next few years. And even so, I just >wanted to try if that OS could be my daily driver. At the moment I do >not see how I can manage this apart from lending me a system. >> >> Matthias > >Did you install any boot loader in your Mac OS? For example "Clover EFI >bootloader" or something like that? Or you just clicked on Command + >Alt and chose the external flash drive with Qubes OS for installation >proccess? > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "qubes-users" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. >To view this discussion on the web visit >https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c2cb46b4-3bc0-4604-961f-9d15a02e3f59%40googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Gerät mit K-9 Mail gesendet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/3501BBF6-1683-4E6C-81AE-D7EE7386E136%40brumm.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Install on an up to date Macbook
Hi! part 1 of the installation is working without issues. The boot up of part 2 is only working with refind and pushing options /mapbs and /noexitboot through to XEN. But part 2 is crashing and rebooting creating the net-vm. I could finish part 2 with telling it to not create any VMs and was able to get the dom0 but i did not have any templates there. Any information about disabling qubes-netvm are not aplicable to me and do not work. Am Samstag, 29. Juni 2019 01:25:07 UTC+2 schrieb Daniil Travnikov: > Do not leave this thread after your any steps (successful or not) because I > want to buy Macbook 12-inch for Qubes OS in near future. And I will keep my > eyes on this thread. Thank you in advance. If you are going to buy a new laptop for the purpose of running QubesOS or Linux I would strongly refrain from buying a Macbook due to the struggles. My Macbook is rather new so I will not be able to get a new one at my work notebook for the next few years. And even so, I just wanted to try if that OS could be my daily driver. At the moment I do not see how I can manage this apart from lending me a system. Matthias -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/0e0773cf-f525-499a-bd72-fcc5bf62e23e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
