Re: [qubes-users] Help :: Disposable VMs start without a NetVM (can't use DVMs currently )

2017-07-02 Thread Qubed One
Qubed One:
> 'P R' via qubes-users:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have spend several hours to built new Template VMs from scratch (more
>> precise: the fedora-24-minimal templates).
>>
>> Now I have the problem, that my new disposable VMs all start without an
>> attaches Net-VM.
>>
>> sys-usb, sys-firewall, sys-net are now all based on the
>> fedora-24-minimal template, with some additional packages, as suggested
>> in the documentation.
>>
>> I have also built a new dvm which is based on the fedora-24 template:
>>
>> My default fedora-24 template is named "my-fedora-24-apps" and is a
>> Template VM without a NetVM attached.
>>
>> I created a new dvm in dom0:
>>
>> [user@dom0 ~] qvm-create-default-dvm my-fedora-24-apps
>>
>> In preferences of the new dvm template which is named
>> "my-fedora-24-apps-dvm" I have attached  the firewall Proxy VM as NetVM.
> 
> 
> After this step, you needed to run qvm-create-default-dvm again as
> above. Not doing this step after changing anything about the
> my-fedora-24-apps-dvm template is why the change did not take effect in
> the dispvms created after that (assuming vanilla dispvm from the
> application menu of course).

Woops, I just realized that this step isn't necessary for me now,
although I thought this was for me at some point. Only if you change
something *inside* the -dvm template do you need to regenerate.

Sorry list, I'll check first next time before I post...

> 
>> But when I launch a program in the disposable VM there is no Net-VM
>> attached.
>> I have also set the "NetVM for DispVM" unter "Other" in the "Advanced"
>> Settings Tab of Qubes Manager for the dvm template to sys-firewall.
>>
>> Still all my disposable AppVM start with an empty NetVM.
>> If I edit a disposable App VM and add the sys-firewall as NetVM,
>> everything works fine.
>>
>>
>> QUESTION:
>> Where and how am I supposed to set the correct information which NetVM
>> should be used for my DVMs?
>>
>> - P R
>>
> 

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Re: [qubes-users] Help :: Disposable VMs start without a NetVM (can't use DVMs currently )

2017-07-02 Thread Qubed One
'P R' via qubes-users:
> Hello,
> 
> I have spend several hours to built new Template VMs from scratch (more
> precise: the fedora-24-minimal templates).
> 
> Now I have the problem, that my new disposable VMs all start without an
> attaches Net-VM.
> 
> sys-usb, sys-firewall, sys-net are now all based on the
> fedora-24-minimal template, with some additional packages, as suggested
> in the documentation.
> 
> I have also built a new dvm which is based on the fedora-24 template:
> 
> My default fedora-24 template is named "my-fedora-24-apps" and is a
> Template VM without a NetVM attached.
> 
> I created a new dvm in dom0:
> 
> [user@dom0 ~] qvm-create-default-dvm my-fedora-24-apps
> 
> In preferences of the new dvm template which is named
> "my-fedora-24-apps-dvm" I have attached  the firewall Proxy VM as NetVM.


After this step, you needed to run qvm-create-default-dvm again as
above. Not doing this step after changing anything about the
my-fedora-24-apps-dvm template is why the change did not take effect in
the dispvms created after that (assuming vanilla dispvm from the
application menu of course).


> But when I launch a program in the disposable VM there is no Net-VM
> attached.
> I have also set the "NetVM for DispVM" unter "Other" in the "Advanced"
> Settings Tab of Qubes Manager for the dvm template to sys-firewall.
> 
> Still all my disposable AppVM start with an empty NetVM.
> If I edit a disposable App VM and add the sys-firewall as NetVM,
> everything works fine.
> 
> 
> QUESTION:
> Where and how am I supposed to set the correct information which NetVM
> should be used for my DVMs?
> 
> - P R
> 

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Re: [qubes-users] Help :: Disposable VMs start without a NetVM (can't use DVMs currently )

2017-07-01 Thread Unman
On Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 01:08:44AM +0200, 'P R' via qubes-users wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have spend several hours to built new Template VMs from scratch (more
> precise: the fedora-24-minimal templates).
> 
> Now I have the problem, that my new disposable VMs all start without an
> attaches Net-VM.
> 
> sys-usb, sys-firewall, sys-net are now all based on the fedora-24-minimal
> template, with some additional packages, as suggested in the documentation.
> 
> I have also built a new dvm which is based on the fedora-24 template:
> 
> My default fedora-24 template is named "my-fedora-24-apps" and is a Template
> VM without a NetVM attached.
> 
> I created a new dvm in dom0:
> 
> [user@dom0 ~] qvm-create-default-dvm my-fedora-24-apps
> 
> In preferences of the new dvm template which is named
> "my-fedora-24-apps-dvm" I have attached  the firewall Proxy VM as NetVM.
> 
> But when I launch a program in the disposable VM there is no Net-VM
> attached.
> I have also set the "NetVM for DispVM" unter "Other" in the "Advanced"
> Settings Tab of Qubes Manager for the dvm template to sys-firewall.
> 
> Still all my disposable AppVM start with an empty NetVM.
> If I edit a disposable App VM and add the sys-firewall as NetVM, everything
> works fine.
> 
> 
> QUESTION:
> Where and how am I supposed to set the correct information which NetVM
> should be used for my DVMs?
> 
> - P R

The "netVM for dispVM" entry sets the netVM for disposableVMs started
from that qube.

You haven't said HOW you are "launching a program".
If you start it from the Qubes Menu then it will (should) honour the
setting for the dvmTemplate, and so in your case start a disposableVM
attached to the firewall.
If you are starting a disposableVM from a qube (by e.g "open in
disposable VM") then THAT disposableVM will be connected to whatever the
entry for "NetVM for dispVM" says for that qube.

I find it easier to check from dom0 terminal, using qvm-prefs ,
and to set the relevant values using 'qvm-prefs  -s dispvm_netvm '

unman

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[qubes-users] Help :: Disposable VMs start without a NetVM (can't use DVMs currently )

2017-07-01 Thread 'P R' via qubes-users

Hello,

I have spend several hours to built new Template VMs from scratch (more 
precise: the fedora-24-minimal templates).


Now I have the problem, that my new disposable VMs all start without an 
attaches Net-VM.


sys-usb, sys-firewall, sys-net are now all based on the 
fedora-24-minimal template, with some additional packages, as suggested 
in the documentation.


I have also built a new dvm which is based on the fedora-24 template:

My default fedora-24 template is named "my-fedora-24-apps" and is a 
Template VM without a NetVM attached.


I created a new dvm in dom0:

[user@dom0 ~] qvm-create-default-dvm my-fedora-24-apps

In preferences of the new dvm template which is named 
"my-fedora-24-apps-dvm" I have attached  the firewall Proxy VM as NetVM.


But when I launch a program in the disposable VM there is no Net-VM 
attached.
I have also set the "NetVM for DispVM" unter "Other" in the "Advanced" 
Settings Tab of Qubes Manager for the dvm template to sys-firewall.


Still all my disposable AppVM start with an empty NetVM.
If I edit a disposable App VM and add the sys-firewall as NetVM, 
everything works fine.



QUESTION:
Where and how am I supposed to set the correct information which NetVM 
should be used for my DVMs?


- P R

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