Re: [qubes-users] Purchase advice, Qubes laptop: ASUS ROG Strix GL503GE ?
This laptop advice question has been asked around 5 times in the past two weeks and I have answered all of them :D On 09/21/2018 02:43 AM, KajMagnus wrote: > What do you think about installing Qubes OS on this?: > > ASUS ROG Strix GL503GE Gaming laptops are baaad news - in a few years the battery life will be 1hr and lugging around a heavy laptop will be feeling worse and worse and you will be consuming more and more ibuprofen for your back pain! > It has this I5-8300H processor, 8th gen core i5, apparently with VT-x and > VT-d yes: It depends on more than just the cpu - in terms of this laptop IOMMU probably won't work on it unless you are buying workstation hardware they almost always fuck up the implementation of it. > https://ark.intel.com/products/134876/Intel-Core-i5-8300H-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_00-GHz > > I read that a IGP is recommended: That information is outdated, anything but the junk nvidia is fine - intel and AMD make linux drivers that are quasi open source in that they require a binary blob but they work with no BS. > "Intel IGP (strongly preferred)" (here: > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/system-requirements/ ) Do all laptops typically > include an IGP? This laptop has an IGP, you think, Most do yes it is the cheapest option as it is integrated in the CPU > although it has an NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1050 Ti card? Nvidia hates: * Linux (unless you buy a quadro) * Open source anything - not only do they fail to provide open source drivers as their competitors do they intentionally ruin the efforts of the nouveau project. * Virtualization (unless you buy a quadro) in that they intentionally add bugs to make it harder to attach graphics card to a VM. 1050 is slow and not really worth it - it would be better to get an eGPU setup if you want a GPU instead of lugging around a heavy gamer laptop. > (I do software development. Will use the laptop to compile code, takes 10 - > 100 seconds, and run stress tests, and open 100 browser tabs. And ... during > development, > I don't feel good about pulling down 1 000 Node.js libs and > typing `npm start` unless in a Qubes virtual machine :- )) I suggest a W520 which you install 32gb ram and the best compatible ivy bridge quad core cpu - then install coreboot with me cleaner (to nerf the me). Buy the one with the IGD and no dGPU so it is more battery efficient and that you can later buy an ExpressCard eGPU adapter and potentially not have to use an external monitor to play video games on it. (with the dGPU model you cant re-direct the output through the iGPU and thus to the laptops internal screen - very cool stuff) It isn't owner controlled like the G505S that I usually suggest but it will be fine and has more features (dock, more ports, expresscard) ram (g505s only 16gb) etc. It is much more free than newer laptops and there aren't any binary blobs besides the ME blob. Note disabling ME is impossible and anyone who says otherwise is lying. New x86 hardware is only licensed not bought, if you want to truly own your hardware and have computing freedom with no ME/PSP and libre firmware you must get non-x86 stuff or older x86 hardware. > (I also asked in https://www.reddit.com/r/Qubes a while ago) What you have to understand is that most of the qubes user community are know it all little kids who suck at computers and refuse help - if 90% of them weren't using qubes they would be using linux mint and they couldn't really care less about actual security only the perception of security which is why so many of them endorse stupid DRM shit like MS's "secure" boot (no linux distro is complete without a MS product lol!) TPM's, ME, a scammy company that starts with the letter p, etc. Users whom you want to listen to are me, awokd, ivan ivanov and a few others. I am always available to email in case no one else has an answer for your obscure expert level linux question. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/4bb5d3ab-b1ff-6044-fdd8-8e9fd557b2a1%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Purchase advice, Qubes laptop: ASUS ROG Strix GL503GE ?
What do you think about installing Qubes OS on this?: ASUS ROG Strix GL503GE It has this I5-8300H processor, 8th gen core i5, apparently with VT-x and VT-d yes: https://ark.intel.com/products/134876/Intel-Core-i5-8300H-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_00-GHz I read that a IGP is recommended: "Intel IGP (strongly preferred)" (here: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/system-requirements/ ) Do all laptops typically include an IGP? This laptop has an IGP, you think, although it has an NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1050 Ti card? (I do software development. Will use the laptop to compile code, takes 10 - 100 seconds, and run stress tests, and open 100 browser tabs. And ... during development, I don't feel good about pulling down 1 000 Node.js libs and typing `npm start` unless in a Qubes virtual machine :- )) Hardware details: (from this specs: https://www.dustin.se/product/5011079435/rog-strix-gl503ge ) Type of Processor Core i5 Processor Generation8 Processor NumberI5-8300H Clock Speed 2.3 GHz Installed Memory size 8 GB Max Supported Size 32 GB<— I'll upgrade to 32 GB RAM SSD Hard Drive 256 GB Interface Harddrive Serial ATA SSD Form Factor M.2 Hard Drive Type (2nd) HDD Capacity (2nd) 1 TB Display: LED backlight, 15.6", 120 Hz, TFT Technology: TN, 1920 x 1080 Graphics: Nvidia, GTX 1050 Ti, 4 GB, GDDR5 SDRAM. Interfaces: LAN, HDMI, USB 2.0, Mini DisplayPort, Headphone/microphone combo jack, 3 x USB 3.1 Gen 1, USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 Thanks for any help, & regards, Magnus (I also asked in https://www.reddit.com/r/Qubes a while ago) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/dc670ee9-64cb-4ecb-8114-d353ded6154c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
