Re: [qubes-users] Qubes-manager refuses to launch
Yes, this is the exit for now (thanks for mentioning q-m-backups! I didn't know that), but not an answer for all) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1e6f3ec2-64c1-4e0c-be69-45d8314e1b1e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes-manager refuses to launch
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 06:44:35AM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote: >> On 2016-12-14 06:31, harh...@gmail.com wrote: >> > I did that already, so... >> > >> > That's the point - I can't run any command, cause vm-manager (and >> > the process itself) seems to do not run, "dnf remove" reports of >> > not-existing packets (cant match the arguments >> > "qubes-template-fedora-24" and so on.. It is a record within *file >> > where this VM mentioned and vm-manager checks it..) >> > >> > #. Yes, I have a Backup, but wish to repair this state... if it >> > is impossible -> then ok, I'll do backup# >> > >> >> I understand. I'm afraid I don't know how to fix the broken state your >> system is currently in, but maybe someone else does. My message was >> mainly about how to avoid this situation from recurring in the future. > > At every system startup backup of qubes.xml is created in > /var/lib/qubes/backup - you can restore it from there, then remove > template using correct tools. I have had cases when it appears that QubesManager appears like it will not start, but the reason is because it sees another one running so holds off (but sticks around). The other instance is windowless and usually wedged somehow (typically on libvirt--I'm not a big fan of that layer). As root, do a "ps ax | grep qubes-manager" to find the running process (a python process). kill (or kill -9 if needed) that process #. All of them, if there's more than one. Then re-run qubes-manager with "qubes-manager". If libvirtd is being stupid, a "sudo systemctl restart libvirtd". That often wakes up a non-responsive system for me. (If that's the problem, kill qubes-manager, restart libvirtd, then run qubes-manager.) -JJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8230d4fa65d9b187c916b1a2a268e8da.webmail%40localhost. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes-manager refuses to launch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 06:44:35AM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote: > On 2016-12-14 06:31, harh...@gmail.com wrote: > > I did that already, so... > > > > That's the point - I can't run any command, cause vm-manager (and > > the process itself) seems to do not run, "dnf remove" reports of > > not-existing packets (cant match the arguments > > "qubes-template-fedora-24" and so on.. It is a record within *file > > where this VM mentioned and vm-manager checks it..) > > > > #. Yes, I have a Backup, but wish to repair this state... if it > > is impossible -> then ok, I'll do backup# > > > > I understand. I'm afraid I don't know how to fix the broken state your > system is currently in, but maybe someone else does. My message was > mainly about how to avoid this situation from recurring in the future. At every system startup backup of qubes.xml is created in /var/lib/qubes/backup - you can restore it from there, then remove template using correct tools. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJYUV+2AAoJENuP0xzK19csEcQIAJrpPsb/z1YaG5bbQvQMiudH f9BdzJz9qhGCVw2XWglMz0oyR5IcUutw0+26Ilbp/w1SMHJeq4n+pua+qmK6b69/ Xx1hWktKgIXYJmSJ3j8vAjbRLWPRrE9vTwW2oWZB8p0wHg4mQ3O+uounR1Cv/oNv KGA3UjnQpuayRUp/QvYbVTJLfRg2pX7+GLccNPO6EKk5RCS2IkmcA3ToSypW1qAE bnwoloI1COjQw4QE4TTLxVU8oPQBl1dTsvDXjr4ggY6efdWANWnKDdDM7mGukBYJ RXhb1pvtt0U0vd9fvNkcOBp58tRai9M5RGvlDBXmBcwVSdUMFZd8WbuJbaX23Jc= =Soyy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20161214150526.GA15090%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes-manager refuses to launch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-12-14 06:31, harh...@gmail.com wrote: > I did that already, so... > > That's the point - I can't run any command, cause vm-manager (and > the process itself) seems to do not run, "dnf remove" reports of > not-existing packets (cant match the arguments > "qubes-template-fedora-24" and so on.. It is a record within *file > where this VM mentioned and vm-manager checks it..) > > #. Yes, I have a Backup, but wish to repair this state... if it > is impossible -> then ok, I'll do backup# > I understand. I'm afraid I don't know how to fix the broken state your system is currently in, but maybe someone else does. My message was mainly about how to avoid this situation from recurring in the future. P.S. - Please don't top-post. > среда, 14 декабря 2016 г., 16:02:19 UTC+2 пользователь Andrew David > Wong написал: On 2016-12-14 04:19, harh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! Got a problem with a qubes-manager after updating and removing templateVM. Upgrading from fedora-24 to fedora-25 was successful, but I couldn't remove TVM fedora-24, because TVM was used by some AppVm as manager said (and it's not true, I changed default template as well as templates in any AppVms). I removed whole record in /var/lib/qubes/qubes.xml and now vm manager gives me import error (Unknown template with QID:x) or "Error: 2, '\xd0\xd9\.. ..\xb0')..." if I add a line manually (just copy line of another TVM and change QID, name, etc.., but I guess it's wrong, while that line requires uuid or smth else to be correct, and what I can't know). Is there any way to deny qubes-manager to check that QID or change the list of TVMs? Thanks... > > You shouldn't try to remove a template manually that way, since > it's likely to cause problems like the ones you're experiencing. > There are two supported ways: > > 1. In Qubes Manager, right click on the TemplateVM -> "Remove VM" > > Or, if the template cannot be removed in this way because it's > RPM-managed: > > 2. In dom0: `sudo dnf remove ` > > For example: `sudo dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-24` > > - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYUVrQAAoJENtN07w5UDAw5mEP/07QpRjqK2WS38aEggblWAxM mQGBi//ig2pKW8lTbJGHiZ11eENzmbBoQ4Wg99hNcna8htNonBiI/27wLbI8ccFt h3bggmYSKwxOcvBgrMRgsFe0jsxEk2SXz8/IJNju4QvgB0bbss9HiF08G073ZKBw jl3I+Q95wvzloV9jTr2P4qMKPE8qA+QfWAd8FRHiC2LcVGYKXT225ynoVZsY8Xu0 npw1M3qH/g7vG64Cig/iM5EcgIXVtRfI+ORu+EbaLApgO/6FRI0EcSIpcqPDhvBv CIEtLgGcK3sGAyah/CW9C6yTxR14WmREOB9QPxH4K20lAv9jMbxKuNXbKi6EFfVt 6TtQkyYaghg1vdBwWYvDgqnIE7yCHHmryAVOLRHCEo2TQcs4VxEs3BNOVoBShPYE M6lKCs0Dh27ev7VFYbZAzZCsHoMcwuQQAY776kfI8APEK/kRYtBOk+bNJ1S1Kqen yE0vLf+UVxp1hrpuTq/soZkI3FyFxFuJhuuB0/3fsia5nCdu9BRE+TsU+OBZtcCF lMO6zgNm1WwjJZ+7smYAoMHqTHFywPmoMc7s2Ql9cksCXB1FlpfVv/D/b+t5408f ROTO7mYrbfNhWpNE6WILKL+0HnsocAZBIp9ogx15SCl2GI0sRjg+T5OVpN5dCbJ6 gO7wc3GkfdR4QK0Y8S3+ =Ri2/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/31d0e9a4-dfe9-5bf0-a55a-fdc351056c6b%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes-manager refuses to launch
I did that already, so... That's the point - I can't run any command, cause vm-manager (and the process itself) seems to do not run, "dnf remove" reports of not-existing packets (cant match the arguments "qubes-template-fedora-24" and so on.. It is a record within *file where this VM mentioned and vm-manager checks it..) #. Yes, I have a Backup, but wish to repair this state... if it is impossible -> then ok, I'll do backup# среда, 14 декабря 2016 г., 16:02:19 UTC+2 пользователь Andrew David Wong написал: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2016-12-14 04:19, harh...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi there! Got a problem with a qubes-manager after updating and > > removing templateVM. Upgrading from fedora-24 to fedora-25 was > > successful, but I couldn't remove TVM fedora-24, because TVM was > > used by some AppVm as manager said (and it's not true, I changed > > default template as well as templates in any AppVms). I removed > > whole record in /var/lib/qubes/qubes.xml and now vm manager gives > > me import error (Unknown template with QID:x) or "Error: 2, > > '\xd0\xd9\.. ..\xb0')..." if I add a line manually (just copy > > line of another TVM and change QID, name, etc.., but I guess it's > > wrong, while that line requires uuid or smth else to be correct, > > and what I can't know). > > > > Is there any way to deny qubes-manager to check that QID or change > > the list of TVMs? > > > > Thanks... > > > > You shouldn't try to remove a template manually that way, since it's > likely to cause problems like the ones you're experiencing. There are > two supported ways: > > 1. In Qubes Manager, right click on the TemplateVM -> "Remove VM" > > Or, if the template cannot be removed in this way because it's > RPM-managed: > > 2. In dom0: `sudo dnf remove ` > > For example: `sudo dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-24` > > - -- > Andrew David Wong (Axon) > Community Manager, Qubes OS > https://www.qubes-os.org > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > iQIbBAEBCgAGBQJYUVDPAAoJENtN07w5UDAwceAP90rNqrz4muKS1crboRc62SJT > IZa44C0Pcvx8wIHkrZ3MUvDcze6tjKqfLygZlxaDz/aFah8TtMifYw5e7ycSAXmS > KL+OAzWJolyScf+lH8N6ydDddAgJTrvaZY+DGYa8xatuQ/bqfGeduGbTQrnCxVHb > A+Rt665H9AvvCrgbi2d5xSu4ouT9ZqaWrD/xYWvt9epCBBQWQQ/F+yS0JV413Y+I > TuoCH84+8EYsFYrUVmbj5rqNUgPFixQd0zmSA1G7g6o0Ax1VxV+z26+r5d2IulRY > ORn379ZCv23K20cZCSwQhQD/aG58c+9CUY68YiYM2X0swavpvMjR+muaZYYAFCzW > 34wbDgtP+x/mF5ZEEg5qslNsZNHnHKxquWCRaHjUQznPHpBgkhnNcxkydVxKVlWw > eAqLp4Qi9akRkGBD4vwTeiwrMl/6Fvf1LMbDYKjzURxH3Uc+507GJNaF+Z3gEuiu > mNkvxKMLTjjhvmikjT6xvKJXMzPE+MQv4chzKvTsztVZn8caJaK7hDrKOOzAaQsB > fwqqfB40dwJxF3DSKBWv7tub08fvxKqif6I5MgNfGwGqKMBhX7UR3VSsuriO4+ug > cr89JQTzpsAeGtytswaEsXDT0aIbweHU40Gnu0vA3e3/VXQ+2/XJfP95hD/m4pMN > NUebgFGTgafCQ58j+dY= > =d6Db > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/64d3065d-ea65-47df-9c07-10c1a7ed84a6%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes-manager refuses to launch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-12-14 04:19, harh...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi there! Got a problem with a qubes-manager after updating and > removing templateVM. Upgrading from fedora-24 to fedora-25 was > successful, but I couldn't remove TVM fedora-24, because TVM was > used by some AppVm as manager said (and it's not true, I changed > default template as well as templates in any AppVms). I removed > whole record in /var/lib/qubes/qubes.xml and now vm manager gives > me import error (Unknown template with QID:x) or "Error: 2, > '\xd0\xd9\.. ..\xb0')..." if I add a line manually (just copy > line of another TVM and change QID, name, etc.., but I guess it's > wrong, while that line requires uuid or smth else to be correct, > and what I can't know). > > Is there any way to deny qubes-manager to check that QID or change > the list of TVMs? > > Thanks... > You shouldn't try to remove a template manually that way, since it's likely to cause problems like the ones you're experiencing. There are two supported ways: 1. In Qubes Manager, right click on the TemplateVM -> "Remove VM" Or, if the template cannot be removed in this way because it's RPM-managed: 2. In dom0: `sudo dnf remove ` For example: `sudo dnf remove qubes-template-fedora-24` - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIbBAEBCgAGBQJYUVDPAAoJENtN07w5UDAwceAP90rNqrz4muKS1crboRc62SJT IZa44C0Pcvx8wIHkrZ3MUvDcze6tjKqfLygZlxaDz/aFah8TtMifYw5e7ycSAXmS KL+OAzWJolyScf+lH8N6ydDddAgJTrvaZY+DGYa8xatuQ/bqfGeduGbTQrnCxVHb A+Rt665H9AvvCrgbi2d5xSu4ouT9ZqaWrD/xYWvt9epCBBQWQQ/F+yS0JV413Y+I TuoCH84+8EYsFYrUVmbj5rqNUgPFixQd0zmSA1G7g6o0Ax1VxV+z26+r5d2IulRY ORn379ZCv23K20cZCSwQhQD/aG58c+9CUY68YiYM2X0swavpvMjR+muaZYYAFCzW 34wbDgtP+x/mF5ZEEg5qslNsZNHnHKxquWCRaHjUQznPHpBgkhnNcxkydVxKVlWw eAqLp4Qi9akRkGBD4vwTeiwrMl/6Fvf1LMbDYKjzURxH3Uc+507GJNaF+Z3gEuiu mNkvxKMLTjjhvmikjT6xvKJXMzPE+MQv4chzKvTsztVZn8caJaK7hDrKOOzAaQsB fwqqfB40dwJxF3DSKBWv7tub08fvxKqif6I5MgNfGwGqKMBhX7UR3VSsuriO4+ug cr89JQTzpsAeGtytswaEsXDT0aIbweHU40Gnu0vA3e3/VXQ+2/XJfP95hD/m4pMN NUebgFGTgafCQ58j+dY= =d6Db -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c332f775-30f1-8c12-73c2-2f7ea0c51c9c%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Qubes-manager refuses to launch
Hi there! Got a problem with a qubes-manager after updating and removing templateVM. Upgrading from fedora-24 to fedora-25 was successful, but I couldn't remove TVM fedora-24, because TVM was used by some AppVm as manager said (and it's not true, I changed default template as well as templates in any AppVms). I removed whole record in /var/lib/qubes/qubes.xml and now vm manager gives me import error (Unknown template with QID:x) or "Error: 2, '\xd0\xd9\.. ..\xb0')..." if I add a line manually (just copy line of another TVM and change QID, name, etc.., but I guess it's wrong, while that line requires uuid or smth else to be correct, and what I can't know). Is there any way to deny qubes-manager to check that QID or change the list of TVMs? Thanks... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/0b51d205-1a8e-4c38-a25f-f10e400c6ba0%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
