Re: [qubes-users] Re: ANN: Qubes network server
On 10/09/2017 04:49 PM, Thierry Laurion wrote: > > Considering Qubes 4.x has switched to HVM, what needs to be done to support > this mode of operation? > Opened a ticket to track this issue: > https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server/issues/4 > Thank you for opening the ticket. It may be difficult for me to adapt to 4.0, so I kindly request anyone with the required skillset to send a pull request adapting it to 4.0. -- Rudd-O http://rudd-o.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ae3a61fa-809e-d388-1358-25727847974a%40rudd-o.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: ANN: Qubes network server
Le dimanche 6 novembre 2016 19:07:54 UTC-5, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) a écrit :
> On 11/05/2016 03:54 PM, Max wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the response!
> >
> > I ran this and also ran 'sudo dnf install go' when I came across the
> > following error: 'go is needed by qubes-network-server-0.0.4-1.fc23.noarch'.
>
> A commit is now out which eliminates this dependency.
>
> > I then did the cd into the cloned folder and the 'make rpm' function has
> > appeared to have worked.
> >
> > I followed the steps to get this to Dom0 and then installed the RPM. It may
> > be better to add to the documentation 'sudo rpm -ivh qns.rpm' as I wasn't
> > initially sure that I actually had to name the file. It helps the noobs!
> >
> > The purpose for me for installing the network server was to be able to ping
> > my Debian VM from my Windows VM.
> >
> > These are the configuration steps I took subsequent to install:
> >
> > 1) Created a ProxyVM named server-proxy.
> > 2) Changed the NetVM on both work-apps (my Debian 8 VM) and windows-7 (HVM)
> > to the new ProxyVM
>
> Sorry, I should have clarified that HVMs are not supported at all. I am
> very, very sorry. I need to do more work to get HVMs to work properly
> ("more" is an euphemism for I have totally forgotten so far to support
> that use case). It is totally my fault that I did not explain this in
> the documentation. My bad. I have updated the documentation to reflect
> that.
>
> If you could help me, do report what happens when you ping between a
> Fedora and a Debian AppVM, or two Debian AppVMs.
>
> --
> Rudd-O
> http://rudd-o.com/
Considering Qubes 4.x has switched to HVM, what needs to be done to support
this mode of operation?
Opened a ticket to track this issue:
https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server/issues/4
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Re: [qubes-users] Re: ANN: Qubes network server
> It's not clear to me what you are trying to achieve. Can you describe > it in English with examples? > > > -- > Rudd-O > http://rudd-o.com/ I am trying to ping a Debian PVM from a Windows HVM. This requirement is due to the fact that I am running a program in Windows that is not supported in Debian or Fedora yet it needs to be connected to my database in Debian. When following the instructions for amending the iptables rules amendment here: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/firewall/#enabling-networking-between-two-qubes, I found that this only worked for connecting from a PVM to a PVM i.e. Fedora to Debian but not from HVM to PVM i.e. Windows to Debian. I wanted to confirm if this was possible and to understand what is required to get this working. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7b2b24a3-2156-45a2-9b55-f28ee3ac53a7%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: ANN: Qubes network server
On 11/07/2016 02:29 PM, Max wrote: > > This worked first time! > > I pinged from the Debian AppVM to a new Fedora AppVM. I checked that the > pinging did not work first and then went through the steps to change the > Fedora AppVM to connect to the proxy server NetVM, assign a static IP, > restart, set the firewall rules and then ping. > > In the meantime, could I ask if it is possible to do what I am trying to > achieve by adjusting the iptables? I reported my troubles attempting to do > this here: > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/Dan7LNLv048/pkT_O2tDAAAJ It's not clear to me what you are trying to achieve. Can you describe it in English with examples? -- Rudd-O http://rudd-o.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ab23a251-6ecd-cc49-1ed4-e9bf5a786dba%40rudd-o.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: ANN: Qubes network server
> Sorry, I should have clarified that HVMs are not supported at all. I am
> very, very sorry. I need to do more work to get HVMs to work properly
> ("more" is an euphemism for I have totally forgotten so far to support
> that use case). It is totally my fault that I did not explain this in
> the documentation. My bad. I have updated the documentation to reflect
> that.
:( Thanks for the quick notice to let me know. Also, well done for getting this
developed anyway. It is an excellent contribution.
It would be a really big help if you were able to enhance this capability in
the future. The benefits of virtualisation in Qubes is well understood from an
isolation perspective but one other reason to use virtualisation is, of course,
to run programs concurrently that cannot be run in a single OS. I unfortunately
need to run Windows as I have specific software that doesn't run on Linux. I
would like to keep all my programs in a single Debian or Fedora VM but I am
being forced to work with Windows so my plan was to keep as much software out
of this environment as possible.
> If you could help me, do report what happens when you ping between a
> Fedora and a Debian AppVM, or two Debian AppVMs.
This worked first time!
I pinged from the Debian AppVM to a new Fedora AppVM. I checked that the
pinging did not work first and then went through the steps to change the Fedora
AppVM to connect to the proxy server NetVM, assign a static IP, restart, set
the firewall rules and then ping.
In the meantime, could I ask if it is possible to do what I am trying to
achieve by adjusting the iptables? I reported my troubles attempting to do
this here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/Dan7LNLv048/pkT_O2tDAAAJ
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[qubes-users] Re: ANN: Qubes network server
On 11/05/2016 03:54 PM, Max wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response!
>
> I ran this and also ran 'sudo dnf install go' when I came across the
> following error: 'go is needed by qubes-network-server-0.0.4-1.fc23.noarch'.
A commit is now out which eliminates this dependency.
> I then did the cd into the cloned folder and the 'make rpm' function has
> appeared to have worked.
>
> I followed the steps to get this to Dom0 and then installed the RPM. It may
> be better to add to the documentation 'sudo rpm -ivh qns.rpm' as I wasn't
> initially sure that I actually had to name the file. It helps the noobs!
>
> The purpose for me for installing the network server was to be able to ping
> my Debian VM from my Windows VM.
>
> These are the configuration steps I took subsequent to install:
>
> 1) Created a ProxyVM named server-proxy.
> 2) Changed the NetVM on both work-apps (my Debian 8 VM) and windows-7 (HVM)
> to the new ProxyVM
Sorry, I should have clarified that HVMs are not supported at all. I am
very, very sorry. I need to do more work to get HVMs to work properly
("more" is an euphemism for I have totally forgotten so far to support
that use case). It is totally my fault that I did not explain this in
the documentation. My bad. I have updated the documentation to reflect
that.
If you could help me, do report what happens when you ping between a
Fedora and a Debian AppVM, or two Debian AppVMs.
--
Rudd-O
http://rudd-o.com/
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[qubes-users] Re: ANN: Qubes network server
On Saturday, 5 November 2016 18:03:17 UTC+8, cyrinux wrote: > Le mardi 11 octobre 2016 21:31:21 UTC+2, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) a écrit : > > Folks, it gives me great pleasure to announce the product of over two > > years of work (primarily because I never paid enough attention to this > > project to bring it to completion): Qubes network server. > > > > The traditional Qubes OS networking model contemplates a client-only use > > case. User VMs (AppVMs or StandaloneVMs) are attached to ProxyVMs, which > > give the user control over outbound connections taking place from user > > VMs. ProxyVMs in turn attach to NetVMs, which provide outbound > > connectivity for ProxyVMs and other user VMs alike. > > > > Qubes network server changes all that. With the Qubes network server > > software, it becomes possible to make network servers in user VMs > > available to other machines, be them peer VMs in the same Qubes OS > > system or machines connected to a physical link shared by a NetVM. You > > get actual, full, GUI control over network traffic, both exiting the VM > > and entering the VM, with exactly the same Qubes OS user experience you > > are used to. > > > > This is all, of course, opt-in, so the standard Qubes OS network > > security model remains in effect until you decide to share network servers. > > > > Anyway, without further ado: > > > > https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server > > > > Real easy: clone, build, install, test. I tested it with Qubes 3.1, but > > it's very likely that it'll work fine in Qubes 3.2. I recommend you > > test this on a Qubes machine that is not your main Qubes machine, but > > the code does not do anything funky, and uninstalling the program should > > be enough to revert your system back to its original state. > > > > I hope we can turn this add-on into a core Qubes feature. As always, > > contributions to the project — reports, code enhancements, pull > > requests, other items — are very much welcome! > > > > -- > > Rudd-O > > http://rudd-o.com/ > Hi, > run 'sudo dnf install rpm-build' and try again, you don't have rpm tools Thanks for the response! I ran this and also ran 'sudo dnf install go' when I came across the following error: 'go is needed by qubes-network-server-0.0.4-1.fc23.noarch'. I then did the cd into the cloned folder and the 'make rpm' function has appeared to have worked. I followed the steps to get this to Dom0 and then installed the RPM. It may be better to add to the documentation 'sudo rpm -ivh qns.rpm' as I wasn't initially sure that I actually had to name the file. It helps the noobs! The purpose for me for installing the network server was to be able to ping my Debian VM from my Windows VM. These are the configuration steps I took subsequent to install: 1) Created a ProxyVM named server-proxy. 2) Changed the NetVM on both work-apps (my Debian 8 VM) and windows-7 (HVM) to the new ProxyVM 3) Set the static IP addresses using the following commands in Dom0 terminal: qvm-static-ip -s work-apps static_ip 192.137.4.18 and then qvm-static-ip -s windows-7 static_ip 192.137.4.19 which were the same IP addresses they were dynamically assigned. 4) Restarted my work-apps (Debian 8 VM) 5) Set the firewall rules on my work-apps (Debian 8 VM) in the VM Manager to be from-192.137.4.19, selected the TCP protocol, put 80 on the Service box and then saved. I then tried to ping the work-apps (Debian 8 VM) from the Windows 7 HVM but just got Destination host unreachable responses. Any ideas how to solve this issue? Many thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/cf4f89e8-1ea9-4e16-9a53-2b96bfe6b088%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: ANN: Qubes network server
Le mardi 11 octobre 2016 21:31:21 UTC+2, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) a écrit : > Folks, it gives me great pleasure to announce the product of over two > years of work (primarily because I never paid enough attention to this > project to bring it to completion): Qubes network server. > > The traditional Qubes OS networking model contemplates a client-only use > case. User VMs (AppVMs or StandaloneVMs) are attached to ProxyVMs, which > give the user control over outbound connections taking place from user > VMs. ProxyVMs in turn attach to NetVMs, which provide outbound > connectivity for ProxyVMs and other user VMs alike. > > Qubes network server changes all that. With the Qubes network server > software, it becomes possible to make network servers in user VMs > available to other machines, be them peer VMs in the same Qubes OS > system or machines connected to a physical link shared by a NetVM. You > get actual, full, GUI control over network traffic, both exiting the VM > and entering the VM, with exactly the same Qubes OS user experience you > are used to. > > This is all, of course, opt-in, so the standard Qubes OS network > security model remains in effect until you decide to share network servers. > > Anyway, without further ado: > > https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server > > Real easy: clone, build, install, test. I tested it with Qubes 3.1, but > it's very likely that it'll work fine in Qubes 3.2. I recommend you > test this on a Qubes machine that is not your main Qubes machine, but > the code does not do anything funky, and uninstalling the program should > be enough to revert your system back to its original state. > > I hope we can turn this add-on into a core Qubes feature. As always, > contributions to the project — reports, code enhancements, pull > requests, other items — are very much welcome! > > -- > Rudd-O > http://rudd-o.com/ Hi, run 'sudo dnf install rpm-build' and try again, you don't have rpm tools -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/78773d11-093d-4fe8-8426-0437595a6b3a%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: ANN: Qubes network server
On Friday, 4 November 2016 02:48:39 UTC+8, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote:
> On 11/02/2016 07:03 AM, Max wrote:
> > On Thursday, 13 October 2016 01:31:01 UTC+8, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote:
> >> Update:
> >>
> >> I have dramatically enhanced the documentation of the project:
> >>
> >> * https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server
> >> *
> >> https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server/blob/master/doc/Setting%20up%20your%20first%20server.md
> >> *
> >> https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server/blob/master/doc/Setting%20up%20an%20SSH%20server.md
> >>
> >> This project is now ready and documented enough to be useful to users of
> >> Ansible Qubes who want to remotely manage clusters of Qubes OS machines:
> >>
> >> *
> >> https://github.com/Rudd-O/ansible-qubes/blob/master/doc/Remote%20management%20of%20Qubes%20OS%20servers.md
> >> *
> >> https://github.com/Rudd-O/ansible-qubes/blob/master/doc/Enhance%20your%20Ansible%20with%20Ansible%20Qubes.md
> >>
> >> I strongly welcome anyone who tries this and shares their experiences.
> >> It is my goal to get this to be a key part of the Qubes OS strategy.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Rudd-O
> >> http://rudd-o.com/
> > For the "make rpm" command you refer to the local directory of your clone,
> > is there a tutorial you recommend I should follow for doing this?
>
> That *is* the tutorial. cd into your clone, then type "make rpm"
> (without the quotes).
>
> --
> Rudd-O
> http://rudd-o.com/
I have tried that but I get the following error - any idea what this means?
[user@my-new-vm qubes-network-server]$ sudo make rpm
find -name '*.pyc' -o -name '*~' -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f
rm -f *.tar.gz *.rpm
DIR=qubes-network-server-`awk '/^Version:/ {print $2}'
qubes-network-server.spec` && FILENAME=$DIR.tar.gz && tar cvzf "$FILENAME"
--exclude "$FILENAME" --exclude .git --exclude .gitignore -X .gitignore
--transform="s|^|$DIR/|" --show-transformed *
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/doc/
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/doc/Setting up an SSH server.md
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/doc/Standard Qubes OS network model.png
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/doc/Qubes network server model.dia
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/doc/Standard Qubes OS network model.dia
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/doc/Qubes network server model.png
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/doc/Setting up your first server.md
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/Makefile
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/qubes-network-server.spec
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/README.md
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/src/
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/src/usr/
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/src/usr/bin/
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/src/usr/bin/qvm-static-ip
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/src/usr/lib64/
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/src/usr/lib64/python2.7/
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/src/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/src/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubes/
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/src/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubes/modules/
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/src/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubes/modules/007FortressQubesProxyVm.py
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/src/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubes/modules/006FortressQubesNetVm.py
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/src/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/qubes/modules/001FortressQubesVm.py
qubes-network-server-0.0.4/TODO
T=`mktemp -d` && rpmbuild --define "_topdir $T" -ta qubes-network-server-`awk
'/^Version:/ {print $2}' qubes-network-server.spec`.tar.gz || { rm -rf "$T";
exit 1; } && mv "$T"/RPMS/*/* "$T"/SRPMS/* . || { rm -rf "$T"; exit 1; } && rm
-rf "$T"
/bin/sh: rpmbuild: command not found
Makefile:13: recipe for target 'rpm' failed
make: *** [rpm] Error 1
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Re: [qubes-users] Re: ANN: Qubes network server
On 11/02/2016 07:03 AM, Max wrote: > On Thursday, 13 October 2016 01:31:01 UTC+8, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote: >> Update: >> >> I have dramatically enhanced the documentation of the project: >> >> * https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server >> * >> https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server/blob/master/doc/Setting%20up%20your%20first%20server.md >> * >> https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server/blob/master/doc/Setting%20up%20an%20SSH%20server.md >> >> This project is now ready and documented enough to be useful to users of >> Ansible Qubes who want to remotely manage clusters of Qubes OS machines: >> >> * >> https://github.com/Rudd-O/ansible-qubes/blob/master/doc/Remote%20management%20of%20Qubes%20OS%20servers.md >> * >> https://github.com/Rudd-O/ansible-qubes/blob/master/doc/Enhance%20your%20Ansible%20with%20Ansible%20Qubes.md >> >> I strongly welcome anyone who tries this and shares their experiences. >> It is my goal to get this to be a key part of the Qubes OS strategy. >> >> -- >> >> Rudd-O >> http://rudd-o.com/ > For the "make rpm" command you refer to the local directory of your clone, is > there a tutorial you recommend I should follow for doing this? That *is* the tutorial. cd into your clone, then type "make rpm" (without the quotes). -- Rudd-O http://rudd-o.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/94c88b53-223c-fbd6-e438-6be8ab0d0171%40rudd-o.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: ANN: Qubes network server
On Thursday, 13 October 2016 01:31:01 UTC+8, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote: > Update: > > I have dramatically enhanced the documentation of the project: > > * https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server > * > https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server/blob/master/doc/Setting%20up%20your%20first%20server.md > * > https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server/blob/master/doc/Setting%20up%20an%20SSH%20server.md > > This project is now ready and documented enough to be useful to users of > Ansible Qubes who want to remotely manage clusters of Qubes OS machines: > > * > https://github.com/Rudd-O/ansible-qubes/blob/master/doc/Remote%20management%20of%20Qubes%20OS%20servers.md > * > https://github.com/Rudd-O/ansible-qubes/blob/master/doc/Enhance%20your%20Ansible%20with%20Ansible%20Qubes.md > > I strongly welcome anyone who tries this and shares their experiences. > It is my goal to get this to be a key part of the Qubes OS strategy. > > -- > > Rudd-O > http://rudd-o.com/ For the "make rpm" command you refer to the local directory of your clone, is there a tutorial you recommend I should follow for doing this? Thank you -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/273b72c4-0da2-4215-a28a-2325149a8294%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: ANN: Qubes network server
On Thursday, 13 October 2016 01:31:01 UTC+8, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote: > Update: > > I have dramatically enhanced the documentation of the project: > > * https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server > * > https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server/blob/master/doc/Setting%20up%20your%20first%20server.md > * > https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server/blob/master/doc/Setting%20up%20an%20SSH%20server.md > > This project is now ready and documented enough to be useful to users of > Ansible Qubes who want to remotely manage clusters of Qubes OS machines: > > * > https://github.com/Rudd-O/ansible-qubes/blob/master/doc/Remote%20management%20of%20Qubes%20OS%20servers.md > * > https://github.com/Rudd-O/ansible-qubes/blob/master/doc/Enhance%20your%20Ansible%20with%20Ansible%20Qubes.md > > I strongly welcome anyone who tries this and shares their experiences. > It is my goal to get this to be a key part of the Qubes OS strategy. > > -- > > Rudd-O > http://rudd-o.com/ For the "make rpm" command you refer to the local directory of your clone, is there a tutorial you recommend I should follow for doing this? Thank you -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e2ca70bd-ee20-40fc-9f65-298e58c3718d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: ANN: Qubes network server
Update: I have dramatically enhanced the documentation of the project: * https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server * https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server/blob/master/doc/Setting%20up%20your%20first%20server.md * https://github.com/Rudd-O/qubes-network-server/blob/master/doc/Setting%20up%20an%20SSH%20server.md This project is now ready and documented enough to be useful to users of Ansible Qubes who want to remotely manage clusters of Qubes OS machines: * https://github.com/Rudd-O/ansible-qubes/blob/master/doc/Remote%20management%20of%20Qubes%20OS%20servers.md * https://github.com/Rudd-O/ansible-qubes/blob/master/doc/Enhance%20your%20Ansible%20with%20Ansible%20Qubes.md I strongly welcome anyone who tries this and shares their experiences. It is my goal to get this to be a key part of the Qubes OS strategy. -- Rudd-O http://rudd-o.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/84da766a-df3c-b85c-95a9-04ecd6c63805%40rudd-o.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
