[qubes-users] Re: Backdoor Distros?

2017-04-20 Thread 1'0481'048'01'410'401'40'402'40
Hello,

but let's assume you would run a perfect hardware and a nice engineered QOS, 
but the Distro Red Had / Fedora will probably delivers certain kind of 
Kernel-Moduls to deliver Backdoors, so I would assume the trust / 
security-chain is gone?

Or let's assume the download of QOS will be forbidden inside Europe (because it 
is not on the Distro-shortlist), than QOS will disapear more and more, only 
criminals don't care and there will be no reason, why they will follow this new 
kind of Short-List-Distro-Law.

I would appreciate the a clean trust and security chain E2E for QubesOS. And 
this would imply Hardware Security, as well an etical clean supply chain. Or 
why should deliver the organization X in one channel some backdoors and for the 
other channel everything is trusted. 

IT is famous for it's very weak ethical thinking, sorry.
The modern tool to adress the E2E ethical supply chain, is the ISO 26 000.
The idea behind is to find a global ethical (minimal) standard, after Kant's 
categorical imperative (or simpified as the Golden Rule):

Do not impose on others what you do not wish for yourself.

So ISO 26 000 is just common sense and is also adaptable to the sustainable 
goal of a secure Linux, I think.

http://www.ecologia.org/isosr/ISO26000Handbook.pdf

Kind Regards 

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[qubes-users] Re: Backdoor Distros?

2017-04-19 Thread cooloutac
On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 2:48:47 PM UTC-4, 
1'0318'4810'4014'12'40'4801'4248 wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> is it possible, that some Distros get delivered with Backdoors?
> 
> https://shop.heise.de/katalog/zertifizierter-pinguin
> 
> (sorry this is in German)
> 
> Kind Regards,

as A Qubes user I've learned the even bigger problem is the hardware.

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