[qubes-users] Re: Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
On 3/9/22 22:25, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its benefits outweigh the drawbacks? I wouldn't care that much about the footer if the content is kept intact, but I think some mailing list software also messes up with multipart MIME messages. Haven't seen that here, but on mailman lists... Regards, Ulrich -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/676a4805-2c6b-0459-5bad-a262ab928329%40rz.uni-regensburg.de.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
On 3/9/22 20:46, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: Having a link to the message in the footer is also convenient sometimes. e.g. when processing HCL reports ;-) /Sven -- public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/2A632C537D744BC7.asc fingerprint: DA59 75C9 ABC4 0C83 3B2F 620B 2A63 2C53 7D74 4BC7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d0080fc7-11f8-584d-993c-1abfa684469b%40SvenSemmler.org. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 03:46:53AM +0100, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 06:19:16PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote: > > On 3/9/22 1:25 PM, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > > The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks > > > digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its > > > benefits outweigh the drawbacks? > > > > As far as I can tell from examining the settings interface, it can't be > > entirely removed or entirely replaced with an empty string. Google Groups > > will not allow it. > > And to be honest, I think some kind of automatic footer with basic ML > info is a good thing. I am on a few ML that don't have it, and every now > and then somebody sends an email _to the list_ asking how to > unsubscribe... > Having a link to the message in the footer is also convenient sometimes. > Google used to put the footer in a separate mime part, which was > compatible with signatures, but they changed it. I have no idea what > other (non-self-hosted) providers do. Why did Google make this change? Has anyone complained to them about it? - -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) Invisible Things Lab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEdodNnxM2uiJZBxxxsoi1X/+cIsEFAmIpmEkACgkQsoi1X/+c IsHMXg/9EX/TSaQFvMTxI4LXy7OXMZJj92WjYEez7IA08k57NIz+Ti/bSZraR/pe hCxysxnRhqJ1S7r/Ap2YP/wV1BYnUaEBg5k8XdGiqFtU/WfGMk3Oh0fCNaq/tkm6 Fu2xrQzfHI5gsZC7gWXTIoIoqieJpy4UGvrTHmaM+E1AXc4A20VWBPAjW6jYS3+S UO1vTyWTbJ7t7BE1pVRmi5zEfkxR+/S8mH6icdil4E9Fl+6R6AAbEWrhDjcXbEAB BUjt8EPC/y6qvZTALLH+BvefOelTFlJyekAQowUFyfdrk+/lemmzMN+iJBFKcY+O v0NaRGWdBTtODLk0MrTmY0C4RWyXkr9Ka5KEPH5OVNtihjQAFH2GaPBbEoQ4yusn ElqdWf+knHi1p22LQ0gXIuSSJ/Zim3BkyIdLTpXZvPl3vI4WjxUv9dVu0mRbrQhJ TMgMDQxNIah/Z/k3IGxO8bd8fOwHnstb0zYO5yj5Jfld2Aw4WOoVwM32tzeYVoUL 6vdx1/Ew8f9nO8Uj1WHuTFGwCmeAaFg5MWWSDDYec1ZfuhoKzE2Y9QC9X0o17CrI dEC1iD/YRanquCMwMhO7WNGOjaHI3A+saA0hNAg/qf3KbfatOy7UzeIP7erTllOL rPDmTS64sRo803gFtrM52wGFbPiaSmUIH6X+h2AdXkYcVBWG9kc= =FpSD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/YimYSSr0F58bKJH7%40itl-email.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 06:19:16PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote: > On 3/9/22 1:25 PM, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks > > digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its > > benefits outweigh the drawbacks? > > As far as I can tell from examining the settings interface, it can't be > entirely removed or entirely replaced with an empty string. Google Groups > will not allow it. And to be honest, I think some kind of automatic footer with basic ML info is a good thing. I am on a few ML that don't have it, and every now and then somebody sends an email _to the list_ asking how to unsubscribe... Having a link to the message in the footer is also convenient sometimes. Google used to put the footer in a separate mime part, which was compatible with signatures, but they changed it. I have no idea what other (non-self-hosted) providers do. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEhrpukzGPukRmQqkK24/THMrX1ywFAmIpZpwACgkQ24/THMrX 1yxOXAf9H8ouM8sISHAfSXDXu16NeTjsD2B+POCm9MU8YVo+yUgBlvkPieNVDksx sTFkD8RwuJlEDEa67HZrhmLjEvlIyIlEAhYnCFM+0uhp3NoK6VDIuo9oJSlzfPmN 9VAKQ0DmuNp8JR2V2LyW25ofph4tgcTOGJOeK0Su+MfyjdQSgWjt8AHLZibHCcjc EKjAJoKtCkfqEwx1GI96qR2OKDTOIjHQLvGsjIJBxtBrMzz0geXjm2Pz4UsoZu71 p9QiisrNkbt18yaq+uxJQyKVUgR0gQIwE+wnjeA2nVq8jJzHWhbAdDS9yW6IlxUF LseEWJK51doZIfZDNQjdXqK9AIRbKg== =FvVg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/Yilmnb3QgfIesFZb%40mail-itl.
[qubes-users] Re: Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
On 3/9/22 1:25 PM, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its benefits outweigh the drawbacks? As far as I can tell from examining the settings interface, it can't be entirely removed or entirely replaced with an empty string. Google Groups will not allow it. -- Andrew David Wong Community Manager The Qubes OS Project https://www.qubes-os.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ebf3e76c-9923-6de4-3572-8eac6d9db752%40qubes-os.org.
