[qubes-users] Re: What is the state of automatic updates?

2019-02-24 Thread Vít Šesták
Why? I suggest having updates as automated as possible – for security reasons. 
It allows you to have all the latest security updates as soon as possible.

Regards,
Vít Šesták 'v6ak'

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[qubes-users] Re: What is the state of automatic updates?

2019-02-22 Thread cooloutac
On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 5:39:09 AM UTC-5, Frank Beuth wrote:
> The documentation is somewhat unclear: which updates can be or are automated, 
> and for which updates do users need to do manual checking? (and can this be 
> turned into a cron job?)
> 
> I checked the qubes-users archive but found conflicting (probably out of 
> date) 
> information.

>From a security point of view I would caution against automatic updates. 

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: What is the state of automatic updates?

2019-02-21 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users




Bill Wether:

On 2/20/19 7:30 AM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:

Frank Beuth wrote on 2/20/19 10:39 AM:

The documentation is somewhat unclear: which updates can be or are
 automated, and for which updates do users need to do manual
checking? (and can this be turned into a cron job?)

I checked the qubes-users archive but found conflicting (probably
out of date) information.


In 4.0, the update widget with the sun should check for updates for
all components automatically. However, it won't apply them until you
tell it to. It also won't work for HVMs running some OS Qubes doesn't
know how to handle; for example, Windows or a Linux distribution
without the Qubes tools installed.



The widget is very convenient but has a few peculiarities at the moment:

(1) it doesn't reset the "updates available for x qubes" in the tooltip;
(2) it doesn't automatically select the templates needing upgrading, and
(3) some things that fail get a green check mark, so I always have to 
look at the 'details' pane.


I haven't seen (3) in the last several days, so it may be fixed, but 
iirc it was Fedora templates that couldn't find one or more of their repos.


Sure is nicer than doing it manually though!

Thanks. Then in answer to Frank, please check out some of the scripts 
under the OS-administration heading here: 
https://github.com/Qubes-Community/Contents/tree/master/code.


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[qubes-users] Re: What is the state of automatic updates?

2019-02-21 Thread Bill Wether

On 2/20/19 7:30 AM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:

Frank Beuth wrote on 2/20/19 10:39 AM:

The documentation is somewhat unclear: which updates can be or are
 automated, and for which updates do users need to do manual
checking? (and can this be turned into a cron job?)

I checked the qubes-users archive but found conflicting (probably
out of date) information.


In 4.0, the update widget with the sun should check for updates for
all components automatically. However, it won't apply them until you
tell it to. It also won't work for HVMs running some OS Qubes doesn't
know how to handle; for example, Windows or a Linux distribution
without the Qubes tools installed.



The widget is very convenient but has a few peculiarities at the moment:

(1) it doesn't reset the "updates available for x qubes" in the tooltip;
(2) it doesn't automatically select the templates needing upgrading, and
(3) some things that fail get a green check mark, so I always have to 
look at the 'details' pane.


I haven't seen (3) in the last several days, so it may be fixed, but 
iirc it was Fedora templates that couldn't find one or more of their 
repos.


Sure is nicer than doing it manually though!

Cheers

BillW

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