[qubes-users] Running Qubes as A HVM under another Type 1 Hypervisor
I have heard of running QubesOS under VirtualBox with HVMs, but I don't know much details. However, note that: * QubesOS 4.0 will move away from PVs. Unless you get HVMs working (including PCI passthrough if you want networking), you will be out of luck with Qunes 4.0 or newer. * As far as I remember, this is officially unsupported setup. Regards, Vít Šesták 'v6ak' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/75293811-b94d-456f-b86b-5068fb78ecef%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Running Qubes as A HVM under another Type 1 Hypervisor
On Monday, 17 April 2017 22:44:06 UTC+1, Andrew David Wong wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2017-04-17 12:04, john.case...@ucdconnect.ie wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Just wondering if this is possible. > > > > Horrific security implications aside, it strikes me as an > > interesting set-up. > > > > According to the Xen wiki [1] you can run Xen as a HVM under Xen, > > but with the limitation that the nested Xen installation cannot > > create a HVM itself. > > > > So would this be possible with Qubes, in conjunction with some > > other hypervisor? > > > > John. > > > > [1] https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_FAQ_Nesting > > > > It's already possible in Qubes 3.2. You can install Qubes as an HVM > inside of Qubes. (PV-only inside the HVM.) What about under another hypervisor, such as unRAID or VMware> > > - -- > Andrew David Wong (Axon) > Community Manager, Qubes OS > https://www.qubes-os.org > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJY9TcXAAoJENtN07w5UDAwcN4P/RnapJ11qeZRHH/AfIorKVGK > JjDkW5+NTmGsc2/3qwj04mtsSgxwn87t0fPihrq9ltNAEakzBrC/pMzSxxqM+o9k > IO/J0S99HgpTHHWPUn+RWAyk15f24I0JYLNOpSMxaVnH9nxIgb1pT0iCH+BET79l > 7xxpcigS42QdssBQAOGYwu0JoliCb0kYd46qh7lBhwml85oib5HbCFVUD0Yr6pq2 > 43n4MGowWEPYegN2TJniQOiwwU0ARxHeWvicF82Hq2MEAkcpzyezomfaDMtvtkm6 > PN602ryRraL2tgGt8/Tjw2qOwlY6wWyu1nKL+GN8wr763ItDLjkP/ojn/OXQZxKF > eiZ7Dp8sn2xJABhros9FpQExFsSKXGRvK8l/qKalQcg5efhgwGywMFXglGMVCzaQ > n5GHrQuNidYUIo54l+1T3+h0njYMFQZthGLw+tpzTmwOx6a1RMRUNpYST/ToENOP > S6bhUI6zxBJnY+eSqYeqkl2xAcxt1pEhLS1lpLYiZD263kZgmfKvdqFlZnZqMro+ > 0aF+74dfJjk9ZexQPynOuVUZSHH1VLlyqVSlzQUQZaTCTMDEAba6MOvRc1vdQlZ/ > +XGYRYz2ZmYDWoz82SvZx6BLF7hS9bBtaq1InjKRPNrH0erE/Mb3vnocWU2UGYHl > ioZpyZyKWOYae1c7xA6C > =aM20 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/da4ec7f1-e994-4382-a5d4-6d823d0f01af%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Running Qubes as A HVM under another Type 1 Hypervisor
On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 10:44:06 PM UTC+1, Andrew David Wong wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2017-04-17 12:04, john.case...@ucdconnect.ie wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Just wondering if this is possible. > > > > Horrific security implications aside, it strikes me as an > > interesting set-up. > > > > According to the Xen wiki [1] you can run Xen as a HVM under Xen, > > but with the limitation that the nested Xen installation cannot > > create a HVM itself. > > > > So would this be possible with Qubes, in conjunction with some > > other hypervisor? > > > > John. > > > > [1] https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_FAQ_Nesting > > > > It's already possible in Qubes 3.2. You can install Qubes as an HVM > inside of Qubes. (PV-only inside the HVM.) What about under another hypervisor, such as unRAID or VMware? > > - -- > Andrew David Wong (Axon) > Community Manager, Qubes OS > https://www.qubes-os.org > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJY9TcXAAoJENtN07w5UDAwcN4P/RnapJ11qeZRHH/AfIorKVGK > JjDkW5+NTmGsc2/3qwj04mtsSgxwn87t0fPihrq9ltNAEakzBrC/pMzSxxqM+o9k > IO/J0S99HgpTHHWPUn+RWAyk15f24I0JYLNOpSMxaVnH9nxIgb1pT0iCH+BET79l > 7xxpcigS42QdssBQAOGYwu0JoliCb0kYd46qh7lBhwml85oib5HbCFVUD0Yr6pq2 > 43n4MGowWEPYegN2TJniQOiwwU0ARxHeWvicF82Hq2MEAkcpzyezomfaDMtvtkm6 > PN602ryRraL2tgGt8/Tjw2qOwlY6wWyu1nKL+GN8wr763ItDLjkP/ojn/OXQZxKF > eiZ7Dp8sn2xJABhros9FpQExFsSKXGRvK8l/qKalQcg5efhgwGywMFXglGMVCzaQ > n5GHrQuNidYUIo54l+1T3+h0njYMFQZthGLw+tpzTmwOx6a1RMRUNpYST/ToENOP > S6bhUI6zxBJnY+eSqYeqkl2xAcxt1pEhLS1lpLYiZD263kZgmfKvdqFlZnZqMro+ > 0aF+74dfJjk9ZexQPynOuVUZSHH1VLlyqVSlzQUQZaTCTMDEAba6MOvRc1vdQlZ/ > +XGYRYz2ZmYDWoz82SvZx6BLF7hS9bBtaq1InjKRPNrH0erE/Mb3vnocWU2UGYHl > ioZpyZyKWOYae1c7xA6C > =aM20 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1e905a29-f1c8-4e8f-9ac5-862cc36db0a1%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Running Qubes as A HVM under another Type 1 Hypervisor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2017-04-17 12:04, john.case...@ucdconnect.ie wrote: > Hi all, > > Just wondering if this is possible. > > Horrific security implications aside, it strikes me as an > interesting set-up. > > According to the Xen wiki [1] you can run Xen as a HVM under Xen, > but with the limitation that the nested Xen installation cannot > create a HVM itself. > > So would this be possible with Qubes, in conjunction with some > other hypervisor? > > John. > > [1] https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_FAQ_Nesting > It's already possible in Qubes 3.2. You can install Qubes as an HVM inside of Qubes. (PV-only inside the HVM.) - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJY9TcXAAoJENtN07w5UDAwcN4P/RnapJ11qeZRHH/AfIorKVGK JjDkW5+NTmGsc2/3qwj04mtsSgxwn87t0fPihrq9ltNAEakzBrC/pMzSxxqM+o9k IO/J0S99HgpTHHWPUn+RWAyk15f24I0JYLNOpSMxaVnH9nxIgb1pT0iCH+BET79l 7xxpcigS42QdssBQAOGYwu0JoliCb0kYd46qh7lBhwml85oib5HbCFVUD0Yr6pq2 43n4MGowWEPYegN2TJniQOiwwU0ARxHeWvicF82Hq2MEAkcpzyezomfaDMtvtkm6 PN602ryRraL2tgGt8/Tjw2qOwlY6wWyu1nKL+GN8wr763ItDLjkP/ojn/OXQZxKF eiZ7Dp8sn2xJABhros9FpQExFsSKXGRvK8l/qKalQcg5efhgwGywMFXglGMVCzaQ n5GHrQuNidYUIo54l+1T3+h0njYMFQZthGLw+tpzTmwOx6a1RMRUNpYST/ToENOP S6bhUI6zxBJnY+eSqYeqkl2xAcxt1pEhLS1lpLYiZD263kZgmfKvdqFlZnZqMro+ 0aF+74dfJjk9ZexQPynOuVUZSHH1VLlyqVSlzQUQZaTCTMDEAba6MOvRc1vdQlZ/ +XGYRYz2ZmYDWoz82SvZx6BLF7hS9bBtaq1InjKRPNrH0erE/Mb3vnocWU2UGYHl ioZpyZyKWOYae1c7xA6C =aM20 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2c0da89c-202f-aed7-2122-f21ff59145ad%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Running Qubes as A HVM under another Type 1 Hypervisor
Hi all, Just wondering if this is possible. Horrific security implications aside, it strikes me as an interesting set-up. According to the Xen wiki [1] you can run Xen as a HVM under Xen, but with the limitation that the nested Xen installation cannot create a HVM itself. So would this be possible with Qubes, in conjunction with some other hypervisor? John. [1] https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_FAQ_Nesting -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/03adc847-8c52-40da-a7a6-b2c84595d62c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
