Re: [qubes-users] session managers for VMs?
On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 12:13:42 AM UTC-4, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote: > On 2018-09-22 07:13, Daniel Allcock wrote: > > Even better would be to "hibernate" a qube by suspending it to disk, > > but I know the qubes team has other priorities. I'm hoping per-vm > > session management is something I could do right now. > > Best bet would be to implement actual hibernate/thaw for VMs. That's a > tall order though. Under Qubes 4.0, I've found that Win7 VMs can hibernate (at the guest OS level, of course), though now I am beginning to suspect that was only with a non-templated HVM. Why so difficult for Linux VMs? Hmm...ok... - Significant additional work to support Templating w/ Hibernation, as I alluded to above (e.g. managing additional template disk changesets until hibernated systems that depend on them are thawed and shut down)? - Preferring hypervisor-initiated hibernate for additional security or performance reasons? - More issues? Brendan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/efec5ba0-fc15-4801-aeab-325e51a671ff%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] session managers for VMs?
On 2018-09-22 07:13, Daniel Allcock wrote: > Sometimes I need to shut down a qube I'm working in for some reason > (changing out sys-net for a specialized sys-net, or closing sensitive > material before working in a public place). It would be nice to be > able to come back to the same window setup I left, when restarting the > qube. > > dom0 has this kind of session management via xfce. Is it possible to > run a session manager in another qube? How would I do this? I know > how to start a window manager using exec, but I haven't figured out > the X startup files in the VMs yet. Perhaps each vm already has a > window manager running? But if so then I still need to enable that > wm's session manager. > > Even better would be to "hibernate" a qube by suspending it to disk, > but I know the qubes team has other priorities. I'm hoping per-vm > session management is something I could do right now. > > Thank you very much, > Daniel > > X11 session management is dead (as much as it pains me to say that), and so is multiple sessions by a single user (thank systemd session management and dconf for that). Best bet would be to implement actual hibernate/thaw for VMs. That's a tall order though. -- Rudd-O http://rudd-o.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/58c468c1-f59b-3064-f3ac-9d7f44284f73%40rudd-o.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] session managers for VMs?
Sometimes I need to shut down a qube I'm working in for some reason (changing out sys-net for a specialized sys-net, or closing sensitive material before working in a public place). It would be nice to be able to come back to the same window setup I left, when restarting the qube. dom0 has this kind of session management via xfce. Is it possible to run a session manager in another qube? How would I do this? I know how to start a window manager using exec, but I haven't figured out the X startup files in the VMs yet. Perhaps each vm already has a window manager running? But if so then I still need to enable that wm's session manager. Even better would be to "hibernate" a qube by suspending it to disk, but I know the qubes team has other priorities. I'm hoping per-vm session management is something I could do right now. Thank you very much, Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c5125e77-ca95-3988-4960-bcd0e596145f%40allcock.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.