Re: [qubes-users] Listing all available templates in a given repo

2019-11-27 Thread Dan Krol
It looks as though the Debian 10 doc has been changed now, thanks. (perhaps
by coincidence, perhaps from reading my previous message).

The rpm -qa command worked for me. I guess you have more repositories
selected than I do, I only see the ones you listed with sizes. I don't have
any of the "(none)" ones.

I think it would be helpful to have a more clear list of templates
available *per repo* (either on a website like packages.ubuntu.com, or as a
command you can run that is recommended in the docs), but for now this
works out for what I need personally. Thanks.

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 5:31 PM Charles Peters 
wrote:

>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 5:38 PM Dan Krol  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> *Caveat:* I'm fairly new to Qubes and Fedora.
>>
>> *Question:* How do I get a list of all available templates that I can
>> install under each repository? (i.e. "current", "testing", "community" etc)
>>
>
> I would also like to see a list of templates and other addons that could
> be shared by the community.  A couple of examples of what could be shared
> by community:
> 1. Debian, Fedora and possibly other distros templates for various use
> cases.
> 2. alpha or experimental - Qubes-based SecureDrop Journalist Workstation
> environment for submission handling
> https://github.com/freedomofpress/securedrop-workstation
> 3. Prago provided his salt configurations for Firefox earlier today.
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email_source=footer#!msg/qubes-users/oStl_IGHuLQ/T56IxhxACAAJ
> 4. Backups to the local network unencrypted, or automated backups.
>
> What would the community like to see documented?
>
> What other tools, or website(s) can we build to provide gpg signed
> templates and addons?
>
> Debian and Ubuntu provide packages.debian.org and packages.ubuntu.com of
> the various versions.  The information can also be obtained from command
> line tools, but the website is useful when looking for software and is
> built automatically from the repositories.  I haven't found anything
> similar for Fedora, does something like it exist?  It would be really cool
> to see qubes provide an automated site which shows the templates and the
> packages the template contains.
>
> *What I've tried (for what it's worth):*
>> * I can see my existing templates under `dnf list installed` in dom0.
>> However, `dnf list available` comes up mysteriously empty.
>>
>
> $ rpm -qa --queryformat '%{SIZE} %{NAME} \n'| grep template | sort -n
> (none) qubes-template-bionic-desktop
> (none) qubes-template-buster-gnome
> (none) qubes-template-fedora-30
> (none) qubes-template-fedora-30-xfce
> 1032734783 qubes-template-debian-10-minimal
> 1337344042 qubes-template-fedora-30-minimal
> 1588460952 qubes-template-whonix-gw-15
> 2176031506 qubes-template-whonix-ws-15
> 3099013352 qubes-template-bionic
> 3490724048 qubes-template-debian-10
>
> I have been trying to determine why some templates show none...  And why I
> can't seem to see where the space is actually used by dom0, it seems to sym
> link to nothing.
>
>
> Chuck
>

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Re: [qubes-users] Listing all available templates in a given repo

2019-11-14 Thread Charles Peters
On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 5:38 PM Dan Krol  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> *Caveat:* I'm fairly new to Qubes and Fedora.
>
> *Question:* How do I get a list of all available templates that I can
> install under each repository? (i.e. "current", "testing", "community" etc)
>

I would also like to see a list of templates and other addons that could be
shared by the community.  A couple of examples of what could be shared by
community:
1. Debian, Fedora and possibly other distros templates for various use
cases.
2. alpha or experimental - Qubes-based SecureDrop Journalist Workstation
environment for submission handling
https://github.com/freedomofpress/securedrop-workstation
3. Prago provided his salt configurations for Firefox earlier today.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email_source=footer#!msg/qubes-users/oStl_IGHuLQ/T56IxhxACAAJ
4. Backups to the local network unencrypted, or automated backups.

What would the community like to see documented?

What other tools, or website(s) can we build to provide gpg signed
templates and addons?

Debian and Ubuntu provide packages.debian.org and packages.ubuntu.com of
the various versions.  The information can also be obtained from command
line tools, but the website is useful when looking for software and is
built automatically from the repositories.  I haven't found anything
similar for Fedora, does something like it exist?  It would be really cool
to see qubes provide an automated site which shows the templates and the
packages the template contains.

*What I've tried (for what it's worth):*
> * I can see my existing templates under `dnf list installed` in dom0.
> However, `dnf list available` comes up mysteriously empty.
>

$ rpm -qa --queryformat '%{SIZE} %{NAME} \n'| grep template | sort -n
(none) qubes-template-bionic-desktop
(none) qubes-template-buster-gnome
(none) qubes-template-fedora-30
(none) qubes-template-fedora-30-xfce
1032734783 qubes-template-debian-10-minimal
1337344042 qubes-template-fedora-30-minimal
1588460952 qubes-template-whonix-gw-15
2176031506 qubes-template-whonix-ws-15
3099013352 qubes-template-bionic
3490724048 qubes-template-debian-10

I have been trying to determine why some templates show none...  And why I
can't seem to see where the space is actually used by dom0, it seems to sym
link to nothing.


Chuck

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Re: [qubes-users] Listing all available templates in a given repo

2019-11-12 Thread Chris Laprise

On 11/12/19 5:38 PM, Dan Krol wrote:

Hello,

*Caveat:* I'm fairly new to Qubes and Fedora.

*Question:* How do I get a list of all available templates that I can 
install under each repository? (i.e. "current", "testing", "community" etc)


*Motivation:* I wanted to check whether Debian 10 is indeed still in 
"testing" as the docs currently state 
(https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/debian/). If it's still in 
testing, I'll refrain from using it. If it's out of testing, I'd like to 
recommend updating the doc (or just make a PR myself).


*What I've tried (for what it's worth):*
* I can see my existing templates under `dnf list installed` in dom0. 
However, `dnf list available` comes up mysteriously empty.
* I eventually found this: https://ftp.qubes-os.org/repo/yum/r4.1/ It 
has versions of Debians 9 and 10 under "templates-itl-testing", but 
"templates-itl" is empty, so I don't know what's out of testing.


That's because "r4.1/" is not yet released. You are probably using the 
current Qubes release which is r4.0.1.


Debian templates are available as stable for current Qubes releases, as 
has been the case for years (IIRC since Debian 7). Also note that Debian 
templates are included with the Qubes installer.


* I went ahead and installed debian-10 template without specifying the 
testing repo in hopes that it would stop me if it was testing-only. It 
ended up working, and during installation it said "qubes-templates-itl" 
under "Repo" instead of "qubes-templates-itl-testing", so I'm /guessing/ 
it's out of testing, but I'd like confirmation.




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