Re: [ntp:questions] MSF Anthorn, UK down

2014-06-09 Thread Marc-Andre Alpers
Hello!

Why have such important service no backup transmitter/antenna like DCF77?

Am 29.05.2014 08:20, schrieb David Taylor:
 On 25/05/2014 18:04, David Taylor wrote:
 It looks like the UK MSF 60 KHz signal from Anthorn is down.  I've seen
 one report that a clock stopped at 00:04 this morning (but I don't know
 whether that was UTC or UTC+01:00).
 []
 
 Update: it returned on Wednesday, 2014 May 28, at 12:56:01 UTC according to
 David Malone, and was sending sensible data shortly after.
 

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Best regards
Marc-Andre Alpers

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Re: [ntp:questions] MSF Anthorn, UK down

2014-06-09 Thread Jan Ceuleers
On 06/09/2014 05:50 PM, Marc-Andre Alpers wrote:
 Hello!
 
 Why have such important service no backup transmitter/antenna like DCF77?

Whereas DCF77 might have a backup transmitter (I don't know), I observe
DCF77 being down very often, albeit for short durations (5-10 mins).

When I do receive it the signal is strong, so I don't think my
observations are due to being too far away (I'm in Northern Belgium).

Morale: don't put all your eggs in one basket.
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[ntp:questions] nagios

2014-06-09 Thread Rob
I am trying to monitor NTP servers with nagios.
I use the standard plugin check_ntp_peer.

It appears that it is only checking the offset and jitter of the
currently selected peer.  When I run check_ntp_peer with some threshold
it returns the same values as present on the ntpq output line with *
at the beginning.

I think this is wrong.  It should do the equivalent of ntpq -c rv
and pick the offset and sys_jitter values from there.

Is anyone aware of a nagios plugin that does that?

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Re: [ntp:questions] MSF Anthorn, UK down

2014-06-09 Thread David Lord

Jan Ceuleers wrote:

On 06/09/2014 05:50 PM, Marc-Andre Alpers wrote:

Hello!

Why have such important service no backup transmitter/antenna like DCF77?


Whereas DCF77 might have a backup transmitter (I don't know), I observe
DCF77 being down very often, albeit for short durations (5-10 mins).

When I do receive it the signal is strong, so I don't think my
observations are due to being too far away (I'm in Northern Belgium).

Morale: don't put all your eggs in one basket.


Hi

Mostly too weak in Lancashire UK but at least it has a very
accurate phase shift seconds marker. MSF and GPS for me have
occasional blackouts, ISTR inversion layer effects used to
be common in this area but apparently it's now unknown.

MSF was ok as fallback on rare occasions when internet was
down.


David

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Re: [ntp:questions] nagios

2014-06-09 Thread Harlan Stenn
Rob writes:
 I am trying to monitor NTP servers with nagios.
 I use the standard plugin check_ntp_peer.
 
 It appears that it is only checking the offset and jitter of the
 currently selected peer.  When I run check_ntp_peer with some threshold
 it returns the same values as present on the ntpq output line with *
 at the beginning.
 
 I think this is wrong.  It should do the equivalent of ntpq -c rv
 and pick the offset and sys_jitter values from there.
 
 Is anyone aware of a nagios plugin that does that?

Have you seen http://support.ntp.org/Support/MonitoringAndControllingNTP

and the check_ntpq nagios module it mentions that I haven't touched in a
Long Time?

H
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Re: [ntp:questions] nagios

2014-06-09 Thread Rob
Harlan Stenn st...@ntp.org wrote:
 Rob writes:
 I am trying to monitor NTP servers with nagios.
 I use the standard plugin check_ntp_peer.
 
 It appears that it is only checking the offset and jitter of the
 currently selected peer.  When I run check_ntp_peer with some threshold
 it returns the same values as present on the ntpq output line with *
 at the beginning.
 
 I think this is wrong.  It should do the equivalent of ntpq -c rv
 and pick the offset and sys_jitter values from there.
 
 Is anyone aware of a nagios plugin that does that?

 Have you seen http://support.ntp.org/Support/MonitoringAndControllingNTP

 and the check_ntpq nagios module it mentions that I haven't touched in a
 Long Time?

 H

Ok I see that this one at least uses ntpq -c readvar.

I would prefer an implementation that uses the readvar packet itself,
as I think that it can return more precision than ntpq does.
(its float value formats are limited to 3 digits after the decimal)

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