Re: [ntp:questions] Handle ntp conf modification when ntp is already running

2014-08-12 Thread Harlan Stenn
(Found unsent in my draft folder)

Arthur Lambert writes:
> Hi,
> 
> Thank you for all your answer.
> 
> So in fact Jochen, even if I need for some reason to handle dynamic
> change on ntp.conf, you are telling me that it is cleaner and better
> to restart the daemon ?

I'm not sure I'd agree that it is better/cleaner to restart the daemon.

There may be some corner cases where the dynamic config stuff doesn't
let you do/undo everything - in that case it would be better to find and
fix these cases.

> I am currently putting some modification in my ntp conf file thanks to
> tr69 protocols. Moreover due to security constraints it is very hard
> for me to restart the ntp daemon.. It is quite strange that noone try
> to patch ntp daemon to handle runtime modification on ntp conf.

Most folks have a strong preference for letting ntpd run for as long as
possible.  And I think you'll find that there can be a lot to do to
"undo" everything that is in-place just to cleanly re-process an
ntp.conf file.

> I also tried to use confi-from-file feature from ntpq without success.
> I add a ntp url in my ntp conf and run ntpq -c config-from-file
> /etc/ntp.conf. Then I am not able to see my new ntp url by running
> ntpq -p command.

Have you tried running those commands from the ntpq CLI, with the
:config directive?

I also don't know if anybody has written a test case for the
config-from-file stuff.  That might be a good place to start - you can
use the 'saveconfig' directive to test to see if your changes have been
made.

> If I am able to create a clean patch to handle runtime modification I
> will be happy to share it.

Please consider discussing your ideas with folks - you are looking at a
lot of work and if you want to see your patches included in the main
distribution it would be best if we all agreed on how things look.

H
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Re: [ntp:questions] NTP+ NMEA +GPS +PPS

2014-08-12 Thread David Woolley

On 12/08/14 09:02, HVZ wrote:


I have installed meinburg's ntp demon 
"ntp-4.2@spider-man-2-win32-setup.exe" inside win_server2008.



It is not Meinburg's demon, or even daemon.  It is the reference 
implementation, with an installer configured by Meinburg.



1-Is it possible to use a GPS receiver module (which also has PPS) to sync the 
pc using installed ntpd ?

2-Dose NTP able to use NMEA massages +PPS signal to sync PC's time?


Yes.  See other reply.

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Re: [ntp:questions] NTP+ NMEA +GPS +PPS

2014-08-12 Thread David Taylor

On 12/08/2014 09:02, HVZ wrote:

hi
I am somehow new to ntp. I am interested to sync a windows OS to GPS time.

I have installed meinburg's ntp demon 
"ntp-4.2@spider-man-2-win32-setup.exe" inside win_server2008.

1-Is it possible to use a GPS receiver module (which also has PPS) to sync the 
pc using installed ntpd ?

2-Dose NTP able to use NMEA massages +PPS signal to sync PC's time?


regards


1.  Yes, send the PPS signal to the DCD pin of your COM port.  Usually a 
TTL-level signal will drive an RS-232 COM port.  This is what I have on 
one system for a Sure GPS/PPS source:


server  127.127.22.1minpoll 4
server  127.127.20.1minpoll 4  mode 18
fudge   127.127.20.1time1 +0.335  refid NMEA

2.  Yes, like the arrangement above.

You will find more information (but not, perhaps, a step-by-step guide) 
on my Web site.  I suggest updating to a more recent version of NTP and 
Windows executables are also on my Web site.


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[ntp:questions] NTP+ NMEA +GPS +PPS

2014-08-12 Thread HVZ
hi
I am somehow new to ntp. I am interested to sync a windows OS to GPS time.

I have installed meinburg's ntp demon 
"ntp-4.2@spider-man-2-win32-setup.exe" inside win_server2008.

1-Is it possible to use a GPS receiver module (which also has PPS) to sync the 
pc using installed ntpd ?

2-Dose NTP able to use NMEA massages +PPS signal to sync PC's time?


regards

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