Re: [ntp:questions] How common is LI=3 - solved.

2017-02-05 Thread William Unruh
On 2017-02-05, David Woolley  wrote:
> On 05/02/17 00:22, Robert Scott wrote:
>>  I hope to achieve a
>> frequency accuracy of 5 PPM.  Once that measurement is made, I store
>> it for subsequent use in my app.

5ppm is not hard if you keep discipling the clock with ntpd/chrony. If
you let it freerun, then things like heat will cause trouble.
>
> The equipment doesn't have a very long service life and is in a 
> temperature controlled environment, as I think both ageing and thermal 
> effects can violate the 5ppm limit.

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Re: [ntp:questions] How common is LI=3 - solved.

2017-02-05 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2017-02-05 02:14, David Woolley wrote:
> On 05/02/17 00:22, Robert Scott wrote:
>> I hope to achieve a frequency accuracy of 5 PPM. Once that
>> measurement is made, I store it for subsequent use in my app.
> The equipment doesn't have a very long service life and is in a
> temperature controlled environment, as I think both ageing and
> thermal effects can violate the 5ppm limit.

I keep my systems running with max performance power profiles to 
avoid internal frequency and temperature variation, which could 
alter drift, and they stay within about +/-1ppm, but after any 
power off, drift jumps ~1ppm, settling down to a new range.

For common XO parts, tolerance and stability are +/-30ppm over 
90C range and aging +/-3ppm/year, say .7ppm/C and 6ppm/year 
worst case, so the environment would need controlled within 3C 
for 5 months, after days of continuous running to stabilize, 
to stay within your limit. 

You could run your calibration until results over the previous 
six hours stabilized, but your calibration would first need 
to run itself against your timing system, to ensure that it has 
stabilized. 

It would need recalibrated any time it was powered off, after 
days of continuous running to stabilize. 

Excessive vibrations could cause the limit to be exceeded at 
any time, as crystals are piezo transducers.

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Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Re: [ntp:questions] How common is LI=3 - solved.

2017-02-05 Thread David Woolley

On 05/02/17 00:22, Robert Scott wrote:

 I hope to achieve a
frequency accuracy of 5 PPM.  Once that measurement is made, I store
it for subsequent use in my app.


The equipment doesn't have a very long service life and is in a 
temperature controlled environment, as I think both ageing and thermal 
effects can violate the 5ppm limit.


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