[Rd] pdf() and postscript() fails (PR#9268)

2006-10-01 Thread yurchikb
Full_Name: yury bakshi
Version: R-2.3.1
OS: XP, cygwin
Submission from: (NULL) (24.187.26.0)



> pdf()
Error in pdf() : failed to load default encoding
In addition: Warning message:
failed to load encoding file 'WinAnsi.enc'
>
> postscript()
Error in postscript() : failed to load encoding
In addition: Warning message:
failed to load encoding file 'WinAnsi.enc'
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Re: [Rd] Rcmd install mypkg

2006-10-01 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
I think the really annoying thing is that it was changed for the worse.
Why not just keep it how it was before?

On 10/1/06, Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/1/2006 4:30 PM, hadley wickham wrote:
> >> Requiring Perl script names to be specified in a case-sensitive way
> >> doesn't affect the R build process, but it does mean that a script
> >> written on Windows is slightly more likely to work when someone runs it
> >> on another platform.  There's an "install" command in at least some
> >> flavours of Unix that would be invoked instead of R's INSTALL script if
> >> you said "R CMD install" on one of those platforms, and that's not a
> >> good thing.
> >
> > Will this be changing on OS X too?  My version of 2006-09-20 r39433
> > accepts either upper or lower case commands.
>
> I think OS X uses the same scripts as other Unix platforms.  So if
> they're happy working on a case-insensitive file system, it's unlikely
> we'll force a change, whether it would be a good idea or not.
>
> In fact, I'm fairly ambivalent about this one:  I'm a long-time believer
> in case-insensitivity.  I'd prefer if R were case-insensitive in all
> respects.  However, it's not, so consistency pulls me to case-sensitivity.
>
> Duncan Murdoch
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Re: [Rd] Rcmd install mypkg

2006-10-01 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 10/1/2006 4:30 PM, hadley wickham wrote:
>> Requiring Perl script names to be specified in a case-sensitive way
>> doesn't affect the R build process, but it does mean that a script
>> written on Windows is slightly more likely to work when someone runs it
>> on another platform.  There's an "install" command in at least some
>> flavours of Unix that would be invoked instead of R's INSTALL script if
>> you said "R CMD install" on one of those platforms, and that's not a
>> good thing.
> 
> Will this be changing on OS X too?  My version of 2006-09-20 r39433
> accepts either upper or lower case commands.

I think OS X uses the same scripts as other Unix platforms.  So if 
they're happy working on a case-insensitive file system, it's unlikely 
we'll force a change, whether it would be a good idea or not.

In fact, I'm fairly ambivalent about this one:  I'm a long-time believer 
in case-insensitivity.  I'd prefer if R were case-insensitive in all 
respects.  However, it's not, so consistency pulls me to case-sensitivity.

Duncan Murdoch

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Re: [Rd] Rcmd install mypkg

2006-10-01 Thread hadley wickham
> Requiring Perl script names to be specified in a case-sensitive way
> doesn't affect the R build process, but it does mean that a script
> written on Windows is slightly more likely to work when someone runs it
> on another platform.  There's an "install" command in at least some
> flavours of Unix that would be invoked instead of R's INSTALL script if
> you said "R CMD install" on one of those platforms, and that's not a
> good thing.

Will this be changing on OS X too?  My version of 2006-09-20 r39433
accepts either upper or lower case commands.

Hadley

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Re: [Rd] Rcmd install mypkg

2006-10-01 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On 10/1/06, Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So what I'd suggest you do if you find typing INSTALL to be painful is
> to install an alias or command script that wraps it up in a way that
> feels more comfortable to you.

It would be possible to do some processing in Rcmd.bat in batchfiles
but I am somewhat loathe to do that since it would result in a potential
difference between Rcmd.bat in batchfiles and Rcmd delivered with R
and right now its entirely consistent -- it just passes the command line
right through.

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Re: [Rd] Rcmd install mypkg

2006-10-01 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 10/1/2006 1:10 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> On 10/1/06, Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 1 October 2006 at 08:53, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
>> | On 10/1/06, Uwe Ligges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> | > Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
>> | > > This would seem to violate the user interface stereotype that
>> | > > command lines are case insensitive on Windows.
>> | >
>> | > This is an improvement. R tries to be as unique as possible on all
>> | > platforms.
>> |
>> | Not sure what the above means but if you mean it works the same
>> | on all platforms that is an error in the design of the software in my view.
>> | The objective should be that it fits into the environment its working in.
>> |
>> | Any Windows user can tell the difference between "clunky" UNIX-derived
>> | software which does not feel right on the Windows platform and
>> | software that adapts its interface to work like all other Windows programs
>> | in that environment.
>>
>> Generally speaking, I think many of us would beg to differ and much rather
>> (continue to) see consistency of R across platforms.
>>
>> Personally speaking, I would think that taking what I consider to be a clunky
>> OS and UI to be the gold standard as somewhat questionable. But that may just
>> be me.
>>
>> Cheers, Dirk
>>
>> --
>> Hell, there are no rules here - we're trying to accomplish something.
>>  -- Thomas A. Edison
>>
> 
> I don't want to get into a debate on the merits of an OS but in terms of
> user interface principles one wants to fit into the environment that the
> software is working in rather than have the user familiarize themselves
> with multiple styles of interaction.

This is why Rgui tries to follow Windows conventions (not entirely 
successfully, and about 10 years behind the times, but anyway...). 
However, the command line utilities are used in the build process for 
packages and for R itself, and so it makes maintenance a lot easier for 
those to follow consistent cross-platform conventions.

Requiring Perl script names to be specified in a case-sensitive way 
doesn't affect the R build process, but it does mean that a script 
written on Windows is slightly more likely to work when someone runs it
on another platform.  There's an "install" command in at least some 
flavours of Unix that would be invoked instead of R's INSTALL script if 
you said "R CMD install" on one of those platforms, and that's not a 
good thing.

So what I'd suggest you do if you find typing INSTALL to be painful is 
to install an alias or command script that wraps it up in a way that 
feels more comfortable to you.

Duncan Murdoch


> If you are running UNIX and Windows you can expect differences when
> you move from one to the other but you do not expect differences when
> running one program vs. another in the same OS.
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Re: [Rd] Rcmd install mypkg

2006-10-01 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On 10/1/06, Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/1/2006 7:20 AM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> > This would seem to violate the user interface stereotype that
> > command lines are case insensitive on Windows.
>
> And command options use a / prefix in Windows, but a - or -- prefix in
> R, and the path separator in Windows is \ in most places, but / is
> accepted in R.  There are a large number of inconsistencies between
> Windows and other systems, and R mostly follows the GNU conventions;
> it's a GNU project, after all.

That's not a bad point but is there really any reason to make it even
less windows-like?  After all, it did work in either case before and
windows filenames are case insensitive so its not like there is
a valid distinction between install and INSTALL if the word refers
to a filename.

>
> Duncan Murdoch
>
> >
> > On 10/1/06, Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 9/30/2006 10:54 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> >>> I noticed that in "R version 2.4.0 alpha (2006-09-16 r39365)" on Windows 
> >>> XP
> >>> that I get this error:
> >>>
> >>> C:\Rpkgs>Rcmd install mypkg
> >>> no Perl script 'install'
> >>>
> >>> The same command worked with no error in 2.3.1pat.  If I capitalize
> >>> INSTALL it does work; however, this was not necessary previously.
> >>>
> >>> Note that
> >>>
> >>> C:\Rpkgs>Rcmd check mypkg
> >>>
> >>> unlike install, still works in either lower or upper case in 2.4.0 alpha.
> >> This is a documented change--see the CHANGES file.
> >>
> >> Duncan Murdoch
> >>
> >
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Re: [Rd] Rcmd install mypkg

2006-10-01 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 10/1/2006 7:20 AM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> This would seem to violate the user interface stereotype that
> command lines are case insensitive on Windows.

And command options use a / prefix in Windows, but a - or -- prefix in 
R, and the path separator in Windows is \ in most places, but / is 
accepted in R.  There are a large number of inconsistencies between 
Windows and other systems, and R mostly follows the GNU conventions; 
it's a GNU project, after all.

Duncan Murdoch

> 
> On 10/1/06, Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 9/30/2006 10:54 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
>>> I noticed that in "R version 2.4.0 alpha (2006-09-16 r39365)" on Windows XP
>>> that I get this error:
>>>
>>> C:\Rpkgs>Rcmd install mypkg
>>> no Perl script 'install'
>>>
>>> The same command worked with no error in 2.3.1pat.  If I capitalize
>>> INSTALL it does work; however, this was not necessary previously.
>>>
>>> Note that
>>>
>>> C:\Rpkgs>Rcmd check mypkg
>>>
>>> unlike install, still works in either lower or upper case in 2.4.0 alpha.
>> This is a documented change--see the CHANGES file.
>>
>> Duncan Murdoch
>>
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Re: [Rd] Rcmd install mypkg

2006-10-01 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On 10/1/06, Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 1 October 2006 at 08:53, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> | On 10/1/06, Uwe Ligges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | > Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> | > > This would seem to violate the user interface stereotype that
> | > > command lines are case insensitive on Windows.
> | >
> | > This is an improvement. R tries to be as unique as possible on all
> | > platforms.
> |
> | Not sure what the above means but if you mean it works the same
> | on all platforms that is an error in the design of the software in my view.
> | The objective should be that it fits into the environment its working in.
> |
> | Any Windows user can tell the difference between "clunky" UNIX-derived
> | software which does not feel right on the Windows platform and
> | software that adapts its interface to work like all other Windows programs
> | in that environment.
>
> Generally speaking, I think many of us would beg to differ and much rather
> (continue to) see consistency of R across platforms.
>
> Personally speaking, I would think that taking what I consider to be a clunky
> OS and UI to be the gold standard as somewhat questionable. But that may just
> be me.
>
> Cheers, Dirk
>
> --
> Hell, there are no rules here - we're trying to accomplish something.
>  -- Thomas A. Edison
>

I don't want to get into a debate on the merits of an OS but in terms of
user interface principles one wants to fit into the environment that the
software is working in rather than have the user familiarize themselves
with multiple styles of interaction.

If you are running UNIX and Windows you can expect differences when
you move from one to the other but you do not expect differences when
running one program vs. another in the same OS.

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Re: [Rd] Rcmd install mypkg

2006-10-01 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel

On 1 October 2006 at 08:53, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
| On 10/1/06, Uwe Ligges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
| > > This would seem to violate the user interface stereotype that
| > > command lines are case insensitive on Windows.
| >
| > This is an improvement. R tries to be as unique as possible on all
| > platforms.
| 
| Not sure what the above means but if you mean it works the same
| on all platforms that is an error in the design of the software in my view.
| The objective should be that it fits into the environment its working in.
| 
| Any Windows user can tell the difference between "clunky" UNIX-derived
| software which does not feel right on the Windows platform and
| software that adapts its interface to work like all other Windows programs
| in that environment.

Generally speaking, I think many of us would beg to differ and much rather
(continue to) see consistency of R across platforms.

Personally speaking, I would think that taking what I consider to be a clunky
OS and UI to be the gold standard as somewhat questionable. But that may just
be me.

Cheers, Dirk

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Re: [Rd] WISH: "R CMD build" should use the (correct) package name (PR#9266)

2006-10-01 Thread Duncan Temple Lang
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I happened to be looking at that myself yesterday.
It is relatively easy to get the package name
from the DESCRIPTION file and not the directory name.
But there are other issues. I'll look into this further
in a week or two.

 D.

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> Submission from: (NULL) (134.245.18.1)
> 
> 
> Since R version 2.3.0 "R CMD check" and "R CMD INSTALL" work for packages 
> whose
> package name is different from the directory name in which it is located (see
> http://cran.r-project.org/src/base/NEWS). While "R CMD check" and "R CMD
> INSTALL" determine the correct package name from the DESCRIPTION file, "R CMD
> build" uses the directory name (and not the package name) for the file name of
> the source package and for the base directory inside this .tar.gz archive (see
> also http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/e2/devel/06/09/0406.html).
> Please let "R CMD build" determine the correct package name from the 
> DESCRIPTION
> file.
> 
> Thanks,
> Arne
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Re: [Rd] WISH: "R CMD build" should use the (correct) package name (PR#9267)

2006-10-01 Thread duncan
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I happened to be looking at that myself yesterday.
It is relatively easy to get the package name
from the DESCRIPTION file and not the directory name.
But there are other issues. I'll look into this further
in a week or two.

 D.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Version: >= 2.3.0
> OS: Linux (SuSE 10.0)
> Submission from: (NULL) (134.245.18.1)
> 
> 
> Since R version 2.3.0 "R CMD check" and "R CMD INSTALL" work for packages 
> whose
> package name is different from the directory name in which it is located (see
> http://cran.r-project.org/src/base/NEWS). While "R CMD check" and "R CMD
> INSTALL" determine the correct package name from the DESCRIPTION file, "R CMD
> build" uses the directory name (and not the package name) for the file name of
> the source package and for the base directory inside this .tar.gz archive (see
> also http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/e2/devel/06/09/0406.html).
> Please let "R CMD build" determine the correct package name from the 
> DESCRIPTION
> file.
> 
> Thanks,
> Arne
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[Rd] WISH: "R CMD build" should use the (correct) package name (PR#9266)

2006-10-01 Thread ahenningsen
Full_Name: Arne Henningsen
Version: >= 2.3.0
OS: Linux (SuSE 10.0)
Submission from: (NULL) (134.245.18.1)


Since R version 2.3.0 "R CMD check" and "R CMD INSTALL" work for packages whose
package name is different from the directory name in which it is located (see
http://cran.r-project.org/src/base/NEWS). While "R CMD check" and "R CMD
INSTALL" determine the correct package name from the DESCRIPTION file, "R CMD
build" uses the directory name (and not the package name) for the file name of
the source package and for the base directory inside this .tar.gz archive (see
also http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/e2/devel/06/09/0406.html).
Please let "R CMD build" determine the correct package name from the DESCRIPTION
file.

Thanks,
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Re: [Rd] Rcmd install mypkg

2006-10-01 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On 10/1/06, Uwe Ligges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> > This would seem to violate the user interface stereotype that
> > command lines are case insensitive on Windows.
>
> This is an improvement. R tries to be as unique as possible on all
> platforms.

Not sure what the above means but if you mean it works the same
on all platforms that is an error in the design of the software in my view.
The objective should be that it fits into the environment its working in.

Any Windows user can tell the difference between "clunky" UNIX-derived
software which does not feel right on the Windows platform and
software that adapts its interface to work like all other Windows programs
in that environment.

>
> Uwe Ligges
>
>
> > On 10/1/06, Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 9/30/2006 10:54 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> >>> I noticed that in "R version 2.4.0 alpha (2006-09-16 r39365)" on Windows 
> >>> XP
> >>> that I get this error:
> >>>
> >>> C:\Rpkgs>Rcmd install mypkg
> >>> no Perl script 'install'
> >>>
> >>> The same command worked with no error in 2.3.1pat.  If I capitalize
> >>> INSTALL it does work; however, this was not necessary previously.
> >>>
> >>> Note that
> >>>
> >>> C:\Rpkgs>Rcmd check mypkg
> >>>
> >>> unlike install, still works in either lower or upper case in 2.4.0 alpha.
> >> This is a documented change--see the CHANGES file.
> >>
> >> Duncan Murdoch
> >>
> >
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Re: [Rd] Rcmd install mypkg

2006-10-01 Thread Uwe Ligges


Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> This would seem to violate the user interface stereotype that
> command lines are case insensitive on Windows.

This is an improvement. R tries to be as unique as possible on all 
platforms.

Uwe Ligges


> On 10/1/06, Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 9/30/2006 10:54 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
>>> I noticed that in "R version 2.4.0 alpha (2006-09-16 r39365)" on Windows XP
>>> that I get this error:
>>>
>>> C:\Rpkgs>Rcmd install mypkg
>>> no Perl script 'install'
>>>
>>> The same command worked with no error in 2.3.1pat.  If I capitalize
>>> INSTALL it does work; however, this was not necessary previously.
>>>
>>> Note that
>>>
>>> C:\Rpkgs>Rcmd check mypkg
>>>
>>> unlike install, still works in either lower or upper case in 2.4.0 alpha.
>> This is a documented change--see the CHANGES file.
>>
>> Duncan Murdoch
>>
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Re: [Rd] stack imbalance in contour

2006-10-01 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Patrick Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm not sure if this has much significance or not -- but
> it sounds rather ominous.  It doesn't appear to be new
> as it happens with 2.0.0 in Linux (but the formatting of
> the warning messages has improved).
> 
>  > contour(array(3e10, c(10,10), list(1:10, 11:20)))
> Warning: stack imbalance in 'contour', 20 then 24
> Warning: stack imbalance in '.Internal', 19 then 23
> Warning: stack imbalance in '{', 17 then 21
> Warning message:
> all z values are equal
>  > sessionInfo()
> R version 2.4.0 RC (2006-09-27 r39543)
> i386-pc-mingw32

I see it on Linux too. It's a serious programming error in that
something has its PROTECT/UNPROTECT mechanism messed up. Fortunately,
it is protecting too much, which is not usually fatal. Also, it
appears to happen only in the all z equal case (the value 3e10 is
not magic - any nonzero z will do). We should get it tracked down,
but it's not worth breaking the code freeze for 2.4.0 over.

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Re: [Rd] Rcmd install mypkg

2006-10-01 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 9/30/2006 10:54 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> I noticed that in "R version 2.4.0 alpha (2006-09-16 r39365)" on Windows XP
> that I get this error:
> 
> C:\Rpkgs>Rcmd install mypkg
> no Perl script 'install'
> 
> The same command worked with no error in 2.3.1pat.  If I capitalize
> INSTALL it does work; however, this was not necessary previously.
> 
> Note that
> 
> C:\Rpkgs>Rcmd check mypkg
> 
> unlike install, still works in either lower or upper case in 2.4.0 alpha.

This is a documented change--see the CHANGES file.

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[Rd] stack imbalance in contour

2006-10-01 Thread Patrick Burns
I'm not sure if this has much significance or not -- but
it sounds rather ominous.  It doesn't appear to be new
as it happens with 2.0.0 in Linux (but the formatting of
the warning messages has improved).

 > contour(array(3e10, c(10,10), list(1:10, 11:20)))
Warning: stack imbalance in 'contour', 20 then 24
Warning: stack imbalance in '.Internal', 19 then 23
Warning: stack imbalance in '{', 17 then 21
Warning message:
all z values are equal
 > sessionInfo()
R version 2.4.0 RC (2006-09-27 r39543)
i386-pc-mingw32

locale:
LC_COLLATE=English_United Kingdom.1252;LC_CTYPE=English_United 
Kingdom.1252;LC_MONETARY=English_United 
Kingdom.1252;LC_NUMERIC=C;LC_TIME=English_United Kingdom.1252

attached base packages:
[1] "methods"   "stats" "graphics"  "grDevices" "utils" "datasets"
[7] "base"


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Re: [Rd] Rcmd install mypkg

2006-10-01 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
This would seem to violate the user interface stereotype that
command lines are case insensitive on Windows.

On 10/1/06, Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/30/2006 10:54 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> > I noticed that in "R version 2.4.0 alpha (2006-09-16 r39365)" on Windows XP
> > that I get this error:
> >
> > C:\Rpkgs>Rcmd install mypkg
> > no Perl script 'install'
> >
> > The same command worked with no error in 2.3.1pat.  If I capitalize
> > INSTALL it does work; however, this was not necessary previously.
> >
> > Note that
> >
> > C:\Rpkgs>Rcmd check mypkg
> >
> > unlike install, still works in either lower or upper case in 2.4.0 alpha.
>
> This is a documented change--see the CHANGES file.
>
> Duncan Murdoch
>

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