Re: [Rd] dbinom link

2020-05-23 Thread Martin Maechler 
> Hilmar Berger 
> on Mon, 18 May 2020 11:25:56 +0200 writes:

> What about using the Wayback Machine archive ? The web archive should be 
> more stable than other links which also might disappear in the future.

> E.g. 
> 
https://web.archive.org/web/20070610002602/http://www.herine.net/stat/software/dbinom.html

> , which also links to an archived copy of the PDF.

> Best regards,
> Hilmar

Thank you, Hilmar;  I have been aware of the web.archive ... but
I already had 3 (very slightly different) versions of the report
on my computer (from "way back" ..).

We've now added the "best" (and most recent, 2002) to the R-project website, 
and amended the 'Binomial'  help page to include the new link:  It
now says (in R-devel and 'R 4.0.0 patched') :

  Source:

 For dbinom a saddle-point expansion is used: see

 Catherine Loader (2000). _Fast and Accurate Computation of
 Binomial Probabilities_; available as https://www.r-project.org/doc/reports/CLoader-dbinom-2002.pdf>

Best regards,
Martin



> On 18.05.20 10:57, peter dalgaard wrote:
>> In principle a good idea, but I'm not sure the whereabouts of Catherine 
Loader are known at this point. Last peeps from her on the net seem to be about 
a decade old.
>> 
>> .pd
>> 
>>> On 18 May 2020, at 10:31 , Abby Spurdle  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This has come up before.
>>> 
>>> Here's the last time:
>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2019-March/077478.html
>>> 
>>> I guess my answer to the following the question...
>>> 
>>> Perhaps we should ask permission to
>>> nail the thing down somewhere on r-project.org?
>>> 
>>> ...would be, to reproduce it somewhere.
>>> And then update the link in the binom help file.
>>> 
>>> Given that the article was previously available freely (with no
>>> apparent restrictions on reproducing it), and that the author has
>>> significant published works which are open access, I'd be surprised if
>>> there's any objection to reproducing it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:01 PM Koenker, Roger W 
 wrote:
 FWIW the link from ?dbinom to the Loader paper on Binomials is broken 
but the paper seems to be
 available here:   
https://octave.1599824.n4.nabble.com/attachment/3829107/0/loader2000Fast.pdf
 
 Roger Koenker
 r.koen...@ucl.ac.uk
 Honorary Professor of Economics
 Department of Economics, UCL
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 and Statistics, UIUC
 
 
 
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Re: [Rd] dbinom link

2020-05-23 Thread Hilmar Berger 



What about using the Wayback Machine archive ? The web archive should be 
more stable than other links which also might disappear in the future.


E.g. 
https://web.archive.org/web/20070610002602/http://www.herine.net/stat/software/dbinom.html


, which also links to an archived copy of the PDF.

Best regards,

Hilmar

On 18.05.20 10:57, peter dalgaard wrote:

In principle a good idea, but I'm not sure the whereabouts of Catherine Loader 
are known at this point. Last peeps from her on the net seem to be about a 
decade old.

.pd


On 18 May 2020, at 10:31 , Abby Spurdle  wrote:

This has come up before.

Here's the last time:
https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2019-March/077478.html

I guess my answer to the following the question...

Perhaps we should ask permission to
nail the thing down somewhere on r-project.org?

...would be, to reproduce it somewhere.
And then update the link in the binom help file.

Given that the article was previously available freely (with no
apparent restrictions on reproducing it), and that the author has
significant published works which are open access, I'd be surprised if
there's any objection to reproducing it.


On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:01 PM Koenker, Roger W  wrote:

FWIW the link from ?dbinom to the Loader paper on Binomials is broken but the 
paper seems to be
available here:   
https://octave.1599824.n4.nabble.com/attachment/3829107/0/loader2000Fast.pdf

Roger Koenker
r.koen...@ucl.ac.uk
Honorary Professor of Economics
Department of Economics, UCL
Emeritus Professor of Economics
and Statistics, UIUC



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Re: [Rd] dbinom link

2020-05-18 Thread Prof Brian Ripley 

On 18/05/2020 09:57, peter dalgaard wrote:

In principle a good idea, but I'm not sure the whereabouts of Catherine Loader 
are known at this point. Last peeps from her on the net seem to be about a 
decade old.


All attempts to contact Dr Loader re the locfit package failed, 
including those earlier this year.



.pd


On 18 May 2020, at 10:31 , Abby Spurdle  wrote:

This has come up before.

Here's the last time:
https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2019-March/077478.html

I guess my answer to the following the question...

Perhaps we should ask permission to
nail the thing down somewhere on r-project.org?

...would be, to reproduce it somewhere.
And then update the link in the binom help file.

Given that the article was previously available freely (with no
apparent restrictions on reproducing it), and that the author has
significant published works which are open access, I'd be surprised if
there's any objection to reproducing it.


On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:01 PM Koenker, Roger W  wrote:


FWIW the link from ?dbinom to the Loader paper on Binomials is broken but the 
paper seems to be
available here:   
https://octave.1599824.n4.nabble.com/attachment/3829107/0/loader2000Fast.pdf

Roger Koenker
r.koen...@ucl.ac.uk
Honorary Professor of Economics
Department of Economics, UCL
Emeritus Professor of Economics
and Statistics, UIUC



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Re: [Rd] dbinom link

2020-05-18 Thread peter dalgaard 
In principle a good idea, but I'm not sure the whereabouts of Catherine Loader 
are known at this point. Last peeps from her on the net seem to be about a 
decade old.

.pd

> On 18 May 2020, at 10:31 , Abby Spurdle  wrote:
> 
> This has come up before.
> 
> Here's the last time:
> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2019-March/077478.html
> 
> I guess my answer to the following the question...
> 
>Perhaps we should ask permission to
>nail the thing down somewhere on r-project.org?
> 
> ...would be, to reproduce it somewhere.
> And then update the link in the binom help file.
> 
> Given that the article was previously available freely (with no
> apparent restrictions on reproducing it), and that the author has
> significant published works which are open access, I'd be surprised if
> there's any objection to reproducing it.
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:01 PM Koenker, Roger W  
> wrote:
>> 
>> FWIW the link from ?dbinom to the Loader paper on Binomials is broken but 
>> the paper seems to be
>> available here:   
>> https://octave.1599824.n4.nabble.com/attachment/3829107/0/loader2000Fast.pdf
>> 
>> Roger Koenker
>> r.koen...@ucl.ac.uk
>> Honorary Professor of Economics
>> Department of Economics, UCL
>> Emeritus Professor of Economics
>> and Statistics, UIUC
>> 
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Re: [Rd] dbinom link

2020-05-18 Thread Abby Spurdle 
This has come up before.

Here's the last time:
https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-devel/2019-March/077478.html

I guess my answer to the following the question...

Perhaps we should ask permission to
nail the thing down somewhere on r-project.org?

...would be, to reproduce it somewhere.
And then update the link in the binom help file.

Given that the article was previously available freely (with no
apparent restrictions on reproducing it), and that the author has
significant published works which are open access, I'd be surprised if
there's any objection to reproducing it.


On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 8:01 PM Koenker, Roger W  wrote:
>
> FWIW the link from ?dbinom to the Loader paper on Binomials is broken but the 
> paper seems to be
> available here:   
> https://octave.1599824.n4.nabble.com/attachment/3829107/0/loader2000Fast.pdf
>
> Roger Koenker
> r.koen...@ucl.ac.uk
> Honorary Professor of Economics
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> Emeritus Professor of Economics
> and Statistics, UIUC
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[Rd] dbinom link

2020-05-18 Thread Koenker, Roger W 
FWIW the link from ?dbinom to the Loader paper on Binomials is broken but the 
paper seems to be
available here:   
https://octave.1599824.n4.nabble.com/attachment/3829107/0/loader2000Fast.pdf

Roger Koenker
r.koen...@ucl.ac.uk
Honorary Professor of Economics
Department of Economics, UCL
Emeritus Professor of Economics
and Statistics, UIUC



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