Re: [R] Cross-over Data with Kenward-Roger correction

2015-06-10 Thread peter dalgaard

On 08 Jun 2015, at 22:59 , Ben Bolker bbol...@gmail.com wrote:

 As a statistical point, I don't understand why you can't just
 do a paired t-test on these data??

It's a cross-over trial, so you need to account for the period effect. However, 
a standard way of treating it is by to calculate period differences within 
subjects and use a t-test (welch or classical) to see if the differ according 
to sequence (trt1-trt2 or v.v.).

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Re: [R] Cross-over Data with Kenward-Roger correction

2015-06-09 Thread Ben Bolker
knouri nouri4 at yahoo.com writes:

 
 Dear all:for the folowing data, a two-period, two treatment (A=1 vs. B=2)
 cross-over is fitted
 using the folowing SAS code.  
 data one;

[snip]

 run;
 proc mixed data=one method=reml;
 class Sbj Per Trt;
    model PEF = Per Trt /ddfm=kr;
    repeated Trt / sub=Sbj type=un r;
    lsmeans Trt / cl alpha=0.05;
    estimate 'B vs. A' Trt -1  1 / alpha=0.1 cl;
 run;

 (where kr option is for Kenward-Roger method).I need to use R to
 reproduce the results similar to what the above SAS code generates.
 I have used several R functions including lme, lmer with no success
 so far.Any advice will be greatly appreciated,Sincerely, Keramat


This is more appropriate for r-sig-mixed-mod...@r-project.org.
Please post followups there.

The lmerTest and lsmeans packages will probably be useful.

As a statistical point, I don't understand why you can't just
do a paired t-test on these data??

dat - read.table(header=TRUE,text=
Sbj Seq Per Trt PEF
1 1 1 1 310
1 1 2 2 270
4 1 1 1 310
4 1 2 2 260
6 1 1 1 370
6 1 2 2 300
7 1 1 1 410
7 1 2 2 390
10 1 1 1 250
10 1 2 2 210
11 1 1 1 380
11 1 2 2 350
14 1 1 1 330
14 1 2 2 365
2 2 1 2 370
2 2 2 1 385
3 2 1 2 310
3 2 2 1 400
5 2 1 2 380
5 2 2 1 410
9 2 1 2 290
9 2 2 1 320
12 2 1 2 260
12 2 2 1 340
13 2 1 2 90
13 2 2 1 220)

library(lmerTest)
library(ggplot2); theme_set(theme_bw())
ggplot(dat,aes(x=Per,y=PEF,colour=factor(Trt)))+geom_point()+
geom_line(colour=gray,aes(group=Sbj))+
scale_x_continuous(breaks=c(1,2))

m1 - lmer(PEF~Per+Trt +(Trt|Sbj), data=dat)

## warning about unidentifiability

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[R] Cross-over Data with Kenward-Roger correction

2015-06-07 Thread knouri
Dear all:for the folowing data, a two-period, two treatment (A=1 vs. B=2) 
cross-over is fitted
using the folowing SAS code.  
data one;
input  Sbj  Seq  Per  Trt  PEF;
cards;
1  1   1   1   310
1  1   2   2   270
4  1   1   1   310
4  1   2   2   260
6  1   1   1   370
6  1   2   2   300
7  1   1   1   410
7  1   2   2   390
10    1   1   1   250
10    1   2   2   210
11    1   1   1   380
11    1   2   2   350
14    1   1   1   330
14    1   2   2   365
2  2   1   2   370
2  2   2   1   385
3  2   1   2   310
3  2   2   1   400
5  2   1   2   380
5  2   2   1   410
9  2   1   2   290
9  2   2   1   320
12    2   1   2   260
12    2   2   1   340
13    2   1   2    90
13    2   2   1   220
;
run;
proc mixed data=one method=reml;
class Sbj Per Trt;
   model PEF = Per Trt /ddfm=kr;
   repeated Trt / sub=Sbj type=un r;
   lsmeans Trt / cl alpha=0.05;
   estimate 'B vs. A' Trt -1  1 / alpha=0.1 cl;
run;
(where kr option is for Kenward-Roger method).I need to use R to reproduce the 
results similar to what the above SAS code generates.
I have used several R functions including lme, lmer with no success so far.Any 
advice will be greatly appreciated,Sincerely,
Keramat

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